• [META] Is this ng only for the original Pine from University of Washington...

    From Ottavio Caruso@ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com to comp.mail.pine on Thu Oct 12 13:16:44 2023
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    ... or for all its derivatives, including Alpine or whatever it is
    called today (it's a moving target)?

    Thanks.
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    Ottavio Caruso
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  • From Allodoxaphobia@trepidation@example.net to comp.mail.pine on Thu Oct 12 13:33:10 2023
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    On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:16:44 +0000, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    ... or for all its derivatives, including Alpine or whatever it is
    called today (it's a moving target)?

    It's for all things *pine.

    Jonesy
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to comp.mail.pine on Thu Oct 12 16:30:14 2023
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    Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

    ... or for all its derivatives, including Alpine or whatever it is
    called today (it's a moving target)?

    It's not a moving target. It's been "alpine" since 2007, when UWash
    rewrote it to eliminate use of portions of the code that were
    copyrighted so that it could be released under a public license. Eduardo
    had been part of that team. UWash stopped maintaining alpine a few
    months after releasing the rewrite.

    Most of us are on Eduardo's fork of alpine; the two earlier forks are
    abandoned projects. His version numbering doesn't overlap version
    numbering used with the two earlier forks.

    Eduardo generously gives his time maintaining alpine. We all thank him
    for it.

    If you had a specific question to ask, you'd receive an answer.
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  • From Ottavio Caruso@ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com to comp.mail.pine on Fri Oct 13 08:31:40 2023
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    Am 12/10/2023 um 16:30 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
    Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

    ... or for all its derivatives, including Alpine or whatever it is
    called today (it's a moving target)?

    It's not a moving target. It's been "alpine" since 2007, when UWash
    rewrote it to eliminate use of portions of the code that were
    copyrighted so that it could be released under a public license. Eduardo
    had been part of that team. UWash stopped maintaining alpine a few
    months after releasing the rewrite.

    Most of us are on Eduardo's fork of alpine; the two earlier forks are abandoned projects. His version numbering doesn't overlap version
    numbering used with the two earlier forks.

    Eduardo generously gives his time maintaining alpine. We all thank him
    for it.

    If you had a specific question to ask, you'd receive an answer.

    I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

    $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
    Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

    < Site not found >

    Is this a Debian problem?
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    Ottavio Caruso

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  • From Holger Schieferdecker@spamless@gmx.de to comp.mail.pine on Fri Oct 13 13:02:56 2023
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    Am 13.10.2023 um 10:31 schrieb Ottavio Caruso:
    I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

    $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
    Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

    < Site not found >

    Is this a Debian problem?

    The Homepage has a new address (I don't know when this was changed):

    https://alpineapp.email/alpine/

    Holger
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to comp.mail.pine on Fri Oct 13 16:03:51 2023
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    Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

    . . .

    I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

    $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
    Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

    < Site not found >

    Is this a Debian problem?

    The package maintainer isn't using the current location of the
    repository. Please let the package maintainer know that he needs to
    correct this. Eduardo does not create the packages.

    Eduardo changed the location of the repository several years ago.

    https://repo.or.cz/alpine.git
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  • From Ottavio Caruso@ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com to comp.mail.pine on Sat Oct 14 08:37:56 2023
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    Am 13/10/2023 um 16:03 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
    Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

    . . .

    I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

    $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
    Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

    < Site not found >

    Is this a Debian problem?

    The package maintainer isn't using the current location of the
    repository. Please let the package maintainer know that he needs to
    correct this. Eduardo does not create the packages.

    Eduardo changed the location of the repository several years ago.

    https://repo.or.cz/alpine.git

    I've reported it. Thanks.
    --
    Ottavio Caruso

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to comp.mail.pine on Sat Oct 14 15:54:58 2023
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    Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Am 13/10/2023 um 16:03 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
    Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

    . . .

    I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

    $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
    Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

    < Site not found >

    Is this a Debian problem?

    The package maintainer isn't using the current location of the
    repository. Please let the package maintainer know that he needs to
    correct this. Eduardo does not create the packages.

    Eduardo changed the location of the repository several years ago.

    https://repo.or.cz/alpine.git

    I've reported it. Thanks.

    As others pointed out, Eduardo's Patches for Alpine site should also be referenced. https://alpineapp.email/alpine/

    Eduardo had also changed the location of this site.
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  • From Ottavio Caruso@ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com to comp.mail.pine on Mon Oct 16 13:58:40 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine

    Am 14/10/2023 um 15:54 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
    Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Am 13/10/2023 um 16:03 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
    Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

    . . .

    I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

    $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
    Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

    < Site not found >

    Is this a Debian problem?

    The package maintainer isn't using the current location of the
    repository. Please let the package maintainer know that he needs to
    correct this. Eduardo does not create the packages.

    Eduardo changed the location of the repository several years ago.

    https://repo.or.cz/alpine.git

    I've reported it. Thanks.

    As others pointed out, Eduardo's Patches for Alpine site should also be referenced. https://alpineapp.email/alpine/

    Eduardo had also changed the location of this site.


    Please anybody feel free to add to this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1053915
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    Ottavio Caruso

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