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  • Prolog vendors don't understand Tabling anymore (Was: Heads will roll: AI means PANIC.)

    From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to comp.lang.prolog on Sat Apr 4 14:03:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    At least John Sowa is not panicing when
    he bashes LLM. Here is another video by him,
    where he pulls all registers:

    Without Ontology LLMs are Clueless by JohnSowa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wZbbISdyA

    Hi,

    This is a nice example how the young generation
    doesn't understand systems that were developed
    30 years ago:

    Example 1:
    No clue that SWI-Prolog does have JIT indexes,
    which explain mysterious differene between
    cold and warm run.
    https://arxiv.org/pdf/2511.13600

    Example 2:
    No clue that subsumption could make a difference,
    claims left recursion is fastest, with referene
    to [TL10] and a bogus node argument.
    https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.21291

    Maybe the Prolog eduction group should organize
    a summer school about tabling?

    Sad news: It will not help to keep up with
    the AI boom. Whats behind the AI boom and
    computing transitive closures?

    Bye

    One could adopt his stance, including spreadin > rumors that are not completely true for LLMs, since
    LLMs do also represent ontologies.

    Just make a test, take any of John Sowas drawings:

    https://www.jfsowa.com/ontology/

    Now ask ChatGPT:

    Q: give me an overview of the beverages
    that humans consume

    A: Humans consume a wide variety of beverages,
    broadly categorized based on their preparation,
    ingredients, and purpose. HererCOs an overview:

    1. Water
    [...]
    2. Non-Alcoholic Beverages
    a. Hot Beverages
    [...]
    b. Cold Beverages
    [...]
    3. Alcoholic Beverages
    [...]
    4. Functional Beverages
    [...]
    5. Cultural and Specialty Beverages
    [...]
    6. Specialty and Regional Drinks
    [...]

    These beverages serve various roles, from hydration
    and nutrition to cultural traditions, relaxation,
    and social interaction.

    Woa!

    Bye

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  • From Mild Shock@janburse@fastmail.fm to comp.lang.prolog on Sat Apr 4 14:04:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.prolog

    Hi,

    This is a nice example how the young generation
    doesn't understand systems that were developed
    30 years ago:

    Example 1:
    No clue that SWI-Prolog does have JIT indexes,
    which explain mysterious differene between
    cold and warm run.
    https://arxiv.org/pdf/2511.13600

    Example 2:
    No clue that subsumption could make a difference,
    claims left recursion is fastest, with referene
    to [TL10] and a bogus node argument.
    https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.21291

    Maybe the Prolog eduction group should organize
    a summer school about tabling?

    Sad news: It will not help to keep up with
    the AI boom. Whats behind the AI boom and
    computing transitive closures?

    Bye

    One could adopt his stance, including spreadin > rumors that are not completely true for LLMs, since
    LLMs do also represent ontologies.

    Just make a test, take any of John Sowas drawings:

    https://www.jfsowa.com/ontology/

    Now ask ChatGPT:

    Q: give me an overview of the beverages
    that humans consume

    A: Humans consume a wide variety of beverages,
    broadly categorized based on their preparation,
    ingredients, and purpose. HererCOs an overview:

    1. Water
    [...]
    2. Non-Alcoholic Beverages
    a. Hot Beverages
    [...]
    b. Cold Beverages
    [...]
    3. Alcoholic Beverages
    [...]
    4. Functional Beverages
    [...]
    5. Cultural and Specialty Beverages
    [...]
    6. Specialty and Regional Drinks
    [...]

    These beverages serve various roles, from hydration
    and nutrition to cultural traditions, relaxation,
    and social interaction.

    Woa!

    Bye

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