From Newsgroup: comp.lang.c

Hi,

Its really amazing how advanced the 80rCOs were concerning
the early expert system wave. You already found expert systems
or fault diagnosis systems, that sorted their abduction questions

via a clairvoyant value computation. It refers to a theoretical
benchmark in decision analysis, maintenance optimization,
and information economics. I didnrCOt find some highly visible

Prolog implementation yet, but I might be mistaken. s(CASP)
doesnrCOt have it yet right? Neither does Web Prolog mention
the concept yet? LLMs use clairvoyant value as well, obviously,

when they stir the dialog. Maybe as an emergent phaenomenon?

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One might spin the idea further and just say the valuation
doesnrCOt predict some physical system behaviour, but rather
reflects user preferences. See also:

Evaluating User-Agent Collaboration
https://arxiv.org/html/2608.27818v1

LLMs can be also bad clairvoyants:

LLMs Fail to Let Go
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2609.25337

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

This was archived on Jul 9, 2026:

11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget

Still, Jul 29, Rossy Boy halucinates accusations:

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

.. bla bla goto bla bla ..

Stupid gangster:-a teamsters are a union.

In the trades, not the steals, ....

Woa! Thats now 20 days of brain desease,
and not understanding the meaning and implications.
Even not understand pi-WAM has Hack VM backend.

But its all opensource. Bravo Rossy Boy, you are
champion in brainlessness and lazyness of
a idiot usenet troll.

Bye

Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:

On 28/07/2026 2:43 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

Hello, here I'll post some design notes and a panel discussion with some >>> chat-bots about making some sense of the "vector-wide scalar word"
and "character machines", on commodity hardware about ubiquitous
operations.


It's considered at least tangentially relevant to comp.lang.c and
comp.lang.c++ because for example text is ubiquitous and the targets
would be low-level, while the higher-level languages would have a
same sort of patternry, and for example that libc and cstdlib are
standard, and as with regards to POSIX and Unicode and so on.

Please feel free to excuse or ignore, or comment as freely.

Thanks for reading.

Are you generating all of your code via LLMs?-a Rest assured,
the LLM generated code will have subtle and sometimes not so subtle
bugs.


Happy bughunting!

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From Newsgroup: comp.lang.c

Hi,

Disclaimer: While clairvoyant valuation has a heavy
math based literature, that can be based on a couple of
approaches from rational reasoning, the LLM literature
might be a little messy and less known,

so the above is what an LLM gave me. I didn't select and
only did cherry picking, to show the drift. EyeProlog is
also a little disappointing, more postulating some human
driven science loop, not a semi-automated experimenter?

The rigid bento forms logical english that requires
million mouse clicks, might also hit a wall, since LLMs
are smoother. Since Excel and VB already solved the "business-
user-readable rule" problem decades ago with localized

function names and cell references. Their solutions to
the textit feature itselfs, are probably more mature.
But given that Microsoft has its foot directly into AI
laptops and does their own model development,

there are only a few chances that they would be interested.
Maybe there are some take aways from a Prolog implementation
that they then will happily patent and reimplement on their
own, just like they didn't adopt Java but developed C#.

So every non AGI development is still an AGI development!

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

Its really amazing how advanced the 80rCOs were concerning
the early expert system wave. You already found expert systems
or fault diagnosis systems, that sorted their abduction questions

via a clairvoyant value computation. It refers to a theoretical
benchmark in decision analysis, maintenance optimization,
and information economics. I didnrCOt find some highly visible

Prolog implementation yet, but I might be mistaken. s(CASP)
doesnrCOt have it yet right? Neither does Web Prolog mention
the concept yet? LLMs use clairvoyant value as well, obviously,

when they stir the dialog. Maybe as an emergent phaenomenon?

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One might spin the idea further and just say the valuation
doesnrCOt predict some physical system behaviour, but rather
reflects user preferences. See also:

Evaluating User-Agent Collaboration
https://arxiv.org/html/2608.27818v1

LLMs can be also bad clairvoyants:

LLMs Fail to Let Go
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2609.25337

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

This was archived on Jul 9, 2026:

11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget

Still, Jul 29, Rossy Boy halucinates accusations:

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

.. bla bla goto bla bla ..

Stupid gangster:-a teamsters are a union.

In the trades, not the steals, ....

Woa! Thats now 20 days of brain desease,
and not understanding the meaning and implications.
Even not understand pi-WAM has Hack VM backend.

But its all opensource. Bravo Rossy Boy, you are
champion in brainlessness and lazyness of
a idiot usenet troll.

Bye

Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson schrieb:

On 28/07/2026 2:43 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

Hello, here I'll post some design notes and a panel discussion with
some
chat-bots about making some sense of the "vector-wide scalar word"
and "character machines", on commodity hardware about ubiquitous
operations.


It's considered at least tangentially relevant to comp.lang.c and
comp.lang.c++ because for example text is ubiquitous and the targets
would be low-level, while the higher-level languages would have a
same sort of patternry, and for example that libc and cstdlib are
standard, and as with regards to POSIX and Unicode and so on.

Please feel free to excuse or ignore, or comment as freely.

Thanks for reading.

Are you generating all of your code via LLMs?-a Rest assured,
the LLM generated code will have subtle and sometimes not so subtle
bugs.


Happy bughunting!

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