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just mentioning

itoday i discovered this name, and for some reason its maybe good so
just to notify/elebrate this day (not that im in mood/health for
celebrations)

i want to adress yet a objections to ma saing on this on this group

well as i said they are not fully right imo (for some reasons long to
mention) though they ale somewhat rught too..id just depends on details

note on this gropup i mostly say on c but i also talk on deeper c
(which i find also a c) sometimes i talk also on what eventually could
be say "more raa less C"

how i see it i just said in post about list of c annoyances: i myself
see a C as some kind of iceberg which has big underwater part and this
part is like the same of raa so talking on this iner parts you in fact
talk on parts of both.. and people with deeper minds should understood
it imo


as i said i find C and raa as a two facess of deeper O (which is some kind
of c-like language wholesomnes)

im quite pleassed with this language idea becous i really searched for somethig that is c but also is not old c (as claiming that C name would
be unstandable.. but dropping the 'legacy' also not good, naming it D
would be not bad (as legacy is in the name) but bein closer as in raa is
maybe better


its ambitious though..bcouse the ambition is to stay more close to C
not going to much into "shallow modernity" and this is ambitious, im not
sure if i had strenght to do it


(fir)



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fir pisze:

just mentioning

itoday i discovered this name, and for some reason its maybe good so
just to notify/elebrate this day (not that im in mood/health for celebrations)

i want to adress yet a objections to ma saing on this on this group

well as i said they are not fully right imo (for some reasons long to mention) though they ale somewhat rught too..id just depends on details

note on this gropup i mostly say on c but i also talk on deeper c
(which i find also a c) sometimes i talk also on what eventually could
be say "more raa less C"

how i see it i just said in post about list of c annoyances: i myself
see a C as some kind of iceberg which has big underwater part and this
part is like the same of raa so talking on this iner parts you in fact
talk on parts of both.. and people with deeper minds should understood
it imo

as i said i find C and raa as a two facess of deeper O (which is some kind of c-like language wholesomnes)

im quite pleassed with this language idea becous i really searched for somethig that is c but also is not old c (as claiming that C name would
be unstandable.. but dropping the 'legacy' also not good, naming it D
would be not bad (as legacy is in the name) but bein closer as in raa is maybe better

its ambitious though..bcouse the ambition is to stay more close to C
not going to much into "shallow modernity" and this is ambitious, im not sure if i had strenght to do it

(fir)

sorry for offtopic coz this is kinda offtopic i know (but as i said some percent of ontopics are ok in my opinion)..i will mostly say about C
and deeper C with only dose of specifically raa offtopics here (at least i will try ...not sure if not to vanish from here for month again hovever,
sad thing is i recent years has not much power to work on both C or raa
sadly)

(fir)
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fir pisze:

fir pisze:

just mentioning

itoday i discovered this name, and for some reason its maybe good so
just to notify/elebrate this day (not that im in mood/health for
celebrations)

i want to adress yet a objections to ma saing on this on this group

well as i said they are not fully right imo (for some reasons long to
mention) though they ale somewhat rught too..id just depends on details

note on this gropup i mostly say on c but i also talk on deeper c
(which i find also a c) sometimes i talk also on what eventually could
be say "more raa less C"

how i see it i just said in post about list of c annoyances: i myself
see a C as some kind of iceberg which has big underwater part and this
part is like the same of raa so talking on this iner parts you in fact
talk on parts of both.. and people with deeper minds should understood
it imo


as i said i find C and raa as a two facess of deeper O (which is some
kind of c-like language wholesomnes)

im quite pleassed with this language idea becous i really searched for
somethig that is c but also is not old c (as claiming that C name
would be unstandable.. but dropping the 'legacy' also not good, naming
it D
would be not bad (as legacy is in the name) but bein closer as in raa is
maybe better


its ambitious though..bcouse the ambition is to stay more close to C
not going to much into "shallow modernity" and this is ambitious, im
not sure if i had strenght to do it


(fir)

sorry for offtopic coz this is kinda offtopic i know (but as i said some percent of ontopics are ok in my opinion)..i will mostly say about C
and deeper C with only dose of specifically raa offtopics here (at least i will try ...not sure if not to vanish from here for month again hovever,
sad thing is i recent years has not much power to work on both C or raa sadly)

(fir)

note yet some may think im a selfish and want to make some king of
"marketing" its not about that.. also take i think all this raa language solution i discovered fully myslef but the fact is also it was somewhat
driven by writing and discussing things on usenet (mostly pl.comp.lnag.c
back then and here) so better some user can find themselves as a kinda helpfull for this project so imnstead blaming me am selfish and
morketing should think themselves as some part of work.. imo that would
be attitude which has a more sense

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On 9/11/2026 9:47 PM, fir wrote:

just mentioning

itoday i discovered this name, and for some reason its maybe good so
just to notify/elebrate this day (not that im in mood/health for celebrations)

i want to adress yet a objections to ma saing on this on this group

well as i said they are not fully right imo (for some reasons long to mention) though they ale somewhat rught too..id just depends on details

note on this gropup i mostly say on c but i also talk on deeper c
(which i find also a c) sometimes i talk also on what eventually could
be say "more raa less C"

how i see it i just said in post about list of c annoyances: i myself
see a C as some kind of iceberg which has big underwater part and this
part is like the same of raa so talking on this iner parts you in fact
talk on parts of both.. and people with deeper minds should understood
it imo

as i said i find C and raa as a two facess of deeper O (which is some kind of c-like language wholesomnes)

im quite pleassed with this language idea becous i really searched for somethig that is c but also is not old c (as claiming that C name would
be unstandable.. but dropping the 'legacy' also not good, naming it D
would be not bad (as legacy is in the name) but bein closer as in raa is maybe better

its ambitious though..bcouse the ambition is to stay more close to C
not going to much into "shallow modernity" and this is ambitious, im not sure if i had strenght to do it

(fir)

Dear fir,

I wish you success on your endeavour, and you don't need to despair,
some of this stuff has been done before, and I present to you some ex-
cerpts from a manual of the FM Towns High C Compiler.


https://duriansoftware.com/joe/the-lost-language-extensions-of-metaware's-high-c-compiler

These extensions predate G.C.C.'s if I understand time correctly, and
I'm sure the regular trolls of comp.lang.c will correct that in due
time.


Best wishes, and happy forking C!
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Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson pisze:

On 9/11/2026 9:47 PM, fir wrote:

just mentioning

itoday i discovered this name, and for some reason its maybe good so
just to notify/elebrate this day (not that im in mood/health for
celebrations)

i want to adress yet a objections to ma saing on this on this group

well as i said they are not fully right imo (for some reasons long to
mention) though they ale somewhat rught too..id just depends on details

note on this gropup i mostly say on c but i also talk on deeper c
(which i find also a c) sometimes i talk also on what eventually could
be say "more raa less C"

how i see it i just said in post about list of c annoyances: i myself
see a C as some kind of iceberg which has big underwater part and this
part is like the same of raa so talking on this iner parts you in fact
talk on parts of both.. and people with deeper minds should understood
it imo


as i said i find C and raa as a two facess of deeper O (which is some
kind of c-like language wholesomnes)

im quite pleassed with this language idea becous i really searched for
somethig that is c but also is not old c (as claiming that C name
would be unstandable.. but dropping the 'legacy' also not good, naming
it D
would be not bad (as legacy is in the name) but bein closer as in raa is
maybe better


its ambitious though..bcouse the ambition is to stay more close to C
not going to much into "shallow modernity" and this is ambitious, im
not sure if i had strenght to do it


(fir)

Dear fir,

I wish you success on your endeavour, and you don't need to despair,
some of this stuff has been done before, and I present to you some ex-
cerpts from a manual of the FM Towns High C Compiler.

https://duriansoftware.com/joe/the-lost-language-extensions-of-metaware's-high-c-compiler

These extensions predate G.C.C.'s if I understand time correctly, and
I'm sure the regular trolls of comp.lang.c will correct that in due
time.

Best wishes, and happy forking C!

interesting name high c, it seemd oryginal for a moment but this is
probably cliche from musical term... deep c much more oryginal
(as a concept of various exploration under surface of c

those changes of this guy are totall medicore imo or worse
(those labdas, generators some things taken from populists)
so it has nothing to the things im sain here

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On 9/27/2026 5:21 AM, fir wrote:

Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson pisze:

On 9/11/2026 9:47 PM, fir wrote:

just mentioning

itoday i discovered this name, and for some reason its maybe good so
just to notify/elebrate this day (not that im in mood/health for
celebrations)

i want to adress yet a objections to ma saing on this on this group

well as i said they are not fully right imo (for some reasons long to
mention) though they ale somewhat rught too..id just depends on details

note on this gropup i mostly say on c but i also talk on deeper c
(which i find also a c) sometimes i talk also on what eventually
could be say "more raa less C"

how i see it i just said in post about list of c annoyances: i myself
see a C as some kind of iceberg which has big underwater part and
this part is like the same of raa so talking on this iner parts you in
fact talk on parts of both.. and people with deeper minds should
understood it imo


as i said i find C and raa as a two facess of deeper O (which is some
kind of c-like language wholesomnes)

im quite pleassed with this language idea becous i really searched
for somethig that is c but also is not old c (as claiming that C name
would be unstandable.. but dropping the 'legacy' also not good,
naming it D
would be not bad (as legacy is in the name) but bein closer as in raa
is maybe better


its ambitious though..bcouse the ambition is to stay more close to C
not going to much into "shallow modernity" and this is ambitious, im
not sure if i had strenght to do it


(fir)

Dear fir,

I wish you success on your endeavour, and you don't need to despair,
some of this stuff has been done before, and I present to you some ex-
cerpts from a manual of the FM Towns High C Compiler.


https://duriansoftware.com/joe/the-lost-language-extensions-of-
metaware's-high-c-compiler

These extensions predate G.C.C.'s if I understand time correctly, and
I'm sure the regular trolls of comp.lang.c will correct that in due
time.


Best wishes, and happy forking C!

interesting name high c, it seemd oryginal for a moment but this is
probably cliche from musical term... deep c much more oryginal
(as a concept of various exploration under surface of c

those changes of this guy are totall medicore imo or worse
(those labdas, generators some things taken from populists)
so it has nothing to the things im sain here

Dear fir,

/Populist/? In 1989? Was C popular enough to be considered populist
back then?
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Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson pisze:

On 9/27/2026 5:21 AM, fir wrote:

Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson pisze:

On 9/11/2026 9:47 PM, fir wrote:

just mentioning

itoday i discovered this name, and for some reason its maybe good so
just to notify/elebrate this day (not that im in mood/health for
celebrations)

i want to adress yet a objections to ma saing on this on this group

well as i said they are not fully right imo (for some reasons long
to mention) though they ale somewhat rught too..id just depends on
details

note on this gropup i mostly say on c but i also talk on deeper c
(which i find also a c) sometimes i talk also on what eventually
could be say "more raa less C"

how i see it i just said in post about list of c annoyances: i myself
see a C as some kind of iceberg which has big underwater part and
this part is like the same of raa so talking on this iner parts you in >>>> fact talk on parts of both.. and people with deeper minds should
understood it imo


as i said i find C and raa as a two facess of deeper O (which is some >>>> kind of c-like language wholesomnes)

im quite pleassed with this language idea becous i really searched
for somethig that is c but also is not old c (as claiming that C
name would be unstandable.. but dropping the 'legacy' also not good,
naming it D
would be not bad (as legacy is in the name) but bein closer as in raa >>>> is maybe better


its ambitious though..bcouse the ambition is to stay more close to C
not going to much into "shallow modernity" and this is ambitious, im
not sure if i had strenght to do it


(fir)

Dear fir,

I wish you success on your endeavour, and you don't need to despair,
some of this stuff has been done before, and I present to you some ex-
cerpts from a manual of the FM Towns High C Compiler.


https://duriansoftware.com/joe/the-lost-language-extensions-of-
metaware's-high-c-compiler

These extensions predate G.C.C.'s if I understand time correctly, and
I'm sure the regular trolls of comp.lang.c will correct that in due
time.


Best wishes, and happy forking C!

interesting name high c, it seemd oryginal for a moment but this is
probably cliche from musical term... deep c much more oryginal
(as a concept of various exploration under surface of c

those changes of this guy are totall medicore imo or worse
(those labdas, generators some things taken from populists)
so it has nothing to the things im sain here

Dear fir,

/Populist/?-a In 1989?-a Was C popular enough to be considered populist
back then?

populists are the people who like what is popular but medicore -
like all this lambdas, clojures and things like that..back then populist
have its run on c++... c people i wouldnt consider populist as c was
always too good to drive populists
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On 9/27/2026 3:28 PM, fir wrote:

populists are the people who like what is popular but medicore -
like all this lambdas, clojures and things like that..back then populist have its run on c++... c people i wouldnt consider populist as c was
always too good to drive populists

Yes, though I tend to call them /social people/ or /socials/ for short.

They are the kind of people who never want to go their own way, and
/fitting in/ is more important than forging ahead and use something new,
or create something totally new.

They depend on inventors -- people who are willing and able to think differently, and make their vision come true -- to enact any change
in the world. And as you have seen in comp.lang.c, /group think/ is
real, even though the people who succumb to it don't see it that way.


In any case, I wish you best in your /thinking independently/ and wish
you all the best in forging ahead on your own.
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Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson pisze:

On 9/27/2026 3:28 PM, fir wrote:

populists are the people who like what is popular but medicore -
like all this lambdas, clojures and things like that..back then
populist have its run on c++... c people i wouldnt consider populist
as c was always too good to drive populists

Yes, though I tend to call them /social people/ or /socials/ for short.

They are the kind of people who never want to go their own way, and
/fitting in/ is more important than forging ahead and use something new,
or create something totally new.

They depend on inventors -- people who are willing and able to think differently, and make their vision come true -- to enact any change
in the world.-a And as you have seen in comp.lang.c, /group think/ is
real, even though the people who succumb to it don't see it that way.

In any case, I wish you best in your /thinking independently/ and wish
you all the best in forging ahead on your own.

in clc its yet not such bad - i sometimes was tyring more opulistic
forum and there the way to populistic outburst was much more short ;c


i dont know what it comes from, but itd definitely how the most people are

hovever in what you say there is much more 'emphasis' of doing it own
way//its not about doing things own way but doing things right way...

sometimes doing it right way shows to be doing it old way too -
some may just rediscover old way was right (it also happens not
so rarely)

so im not quite sybscribe to "do it new way" statement..imo probably metaphorical 90% of this modern things are crap - and waht is good is
not becouse its new but it goes like to fundaments/ fundamentals so its
kinda like goin in past more than going new ;c


also as i said people are sometimes weir but without them various forums
would not exist so generally the outcome of even average people is imo positive.. not to say sometimes some people say something quite ok


also i may mention i got a special talent in lurking in deep c but
in general programming many people are much better than me

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fir pisze:

They depend on inventors -- people who are willing and able to think differently, and make their vision come true -- to enact any change
in the world.-a And as you have seen in comp.lang.c, /group think/ is
real, even though the people who succumb to it don't see it that way.

also i noticed such people , like some youtubers (or adolf h)
they make their vision ocme true and thats terrible sh*t out of it

so its noy on "own" not on "new" not on "different"

its more on some kind of awareness imo (some on which ma may have some problems maybe recently, i remember how it was back then, it was maybe
like more of it)

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fir pisze:

in clc its yet not such bad - i sometimes was tyring more opulistic
forum and there the way to populistic outburst was much more short ;c

i dont know what it comes from, but itd definitely how the most people are

i very like comp.lang.c and find it as fine place and users here are
quite decent level..maybe they are elevated by some spitit of tradition
of this place here

the typical forums were mostly disgusting (i not used them to much but i
used soem gamedev forums for a moment or stack overflow, it was
disgusting - there some real low people appeared and that was kinda
hell compared to noble clc)


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