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Hi all,

I've been meaning to set up a gopher hole next to my
gemini capsule, but I've been pondering if it would
be possible to share content on both. I know there's
challenges, and I'll probably have to settle for
some kind of least common denominator in what I can
publish. But I'm curious: is anyone doing this, and
if so, are you using some kind of generator?

Cheers,

Koen

Ps: I also want to publish some of the same content
on the world wide web, which I currently do by running
a web proxy to the gemini capsule.
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On 15/05/2026 6:42 PM, Koen Martens wrote:

Hi all,

I've been meaning to set up a gopher hole next to my
gemini capsule, but I've been pondering if it would
be possible to share content on both. I know there's
challenges, and I'll probably have to settle for
some kind of least common denominator in what I can
publish. But I'm curious: is anyone doing this, and
if so, are you using some kind of generator?

Cheers,

Koen

Ps: I also want to publish some of the same content
on the world wide web, which I currently do by running
a web proxy to the gemini capsule.

Use your gemini markup nonsense as source. For HTML you can use your
proxy if it fits you or simple script to convert gemini markup files
into HTML. Simple script that you will manually run when you create or
edit some file.

For gopher create just main menu file which will serve index. Your
gemini markup files can stay as they are, it's pretty readable as plain
text.

Gopher is very simple, few lines of shell script over inetd would work
nicely. Hyperlinking will obviously not work in regular files if you
want to say somehow sane and they don't have to. Gopher is primitive and people who use it are able to copy paste links or use more smart
terminals or other tools to plumb them.

Easy task if you want stay simple, but can become fuckery if you go for complex setup. You should keep in mind how gopher is simple and how
gemini is pointless. People who use it are willing to pay the tax. And
all of them use web anyway.

So ideally you would just serve your nonsense over web or don't at all
;/ but if you insist stay simple.
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I'm kind of doing this, mainly Gopher -> Gemini which I find easier WRT formatting. Probably most people are creating their own conversion scripts since there's so much variation between the various Gopher servers.
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Tangentially, anyone doing Gopher+Nex ? Been messing around some with Nex which is stupidly simple, a bit like a custom finger protocol.

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VidyGud <vg@email.onion> wrote:

Tangentially, anyone doing Gopher+Nex ? Been messing around some with Nex which is stupidly simple, a bit like a custom finger protocol.

Interesting, do you have a reference to Nex? I'd like to know more!

Cheers,

Koen
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Anne Frank <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> wrote:

I'm kind of doing this, mainly Gopher -> Gemini which I find easier WRT formatting. Probably most people are creating their own conversion scripts since there's so much variation between the various Gopher servers.

I guess I'll be doing the same. Ah well, I was looking for
something to build to learn Zig anyway :)

Cheers,

Koen
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On 16/05/2026 7:56 PM, VidyGud wrote:

Tangentially, anyone doing Gopher+Nex ? Been messing around some with Nex which is stupidly simple, a bit like a custom finger protocol.

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I did it in the past. Again very simple way. Plain text files - nex shit
was the source. Gopher had just main menu file extra.
Few lines of shell script for nex triggered from inetd.

Nex was reasonable, but also pointless. Those five temporary users who
were discovering it could be served even over morse code.
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gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) wrote:

VidyGud <vg@email.onion> wrote:

Tangentially, anyone doing Gopher+Nex ? Been messing around some
with Nex which is stupidly simple, a bit like a custom finger
protocol.

Interesting, do you have a reference to Nex? I'd like to know more!

<https://portal.mozz.us/nex/nightfall.city/nex/info/>
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On Fri, 15 May 2026 16:42:30 -0000 (UTC)
gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) wrote:

But I'm curious: is anyone doing this, and
if so, are you using some kind of generator?

I've used Solderpunk's gegobi for this purpose, but it works in the
opposite direction, taking your gopher content and making it available
on gemini.

Here's a link:

https://git.sr.ht/~solderpunk/gegobi

I'll be interested to see if there's something like a "reverse gegobi"
out there.



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In comp.infosystems.gemini Visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> wrote:

I've used Solderpunk's gegobi for this purpose, but it works in the
opposite direction, taking your gopher content and making it available
on gemini.

Here's a link:

https://git.sr.ht/~solderpunk/gegobi

Ah, interesting. I see it runs a server that actively
fetches and translates all requests it gets. I'd prefer
something that just generates files once, instead of for
every request though.

I'll be interested to see if there's something like a "reverse gegobi"
out there.

I found this:

https://codeberg.org/kreuzer/zine

It uses gemtext as the basis and then produces gophermaps and html. But
it's written in swift, and I don't have a mac, so trying it is probably
going to be a pain.

Cheers,

Koen
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On Sun, 17 May 2026 06:10:17 -0000 (UTC)
gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) wrote:

In comp.infosystems.gemini Visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> wrote:

I've used Solderpunk's gegobi for this purpose, but it works in the opposite direction, taking your gopher content and making it available
on gemini.

Here's a link:

https://git.sr.ht/~solderpunk/gegobi

Ah, interesting. I see it runs a server that actively
fetches and translates all requests it gets. I'd prefer
something that just generates files once, instead of for
every request though.

I've been using a version of bashblog that I found floating around the tildeverse (someone had already added some gopher support to it,
generating a gophermap linking to the .md files), and added gemtext
support on top, using 'lowdown' for the conversion. And some awk, sed,
grep, etc for "tags" management (I really liked the way that part came
out)

Later on I read somewhere that some people are also serving gemtext over gopher, and it makes quite a lot of sense, for the individual "pages"
at least. Generate an appropriate gophermap linking to the gmi files
(which, apart from not having fixed width lines, are pretty readable as
they are), and you are good to go.

Look for my name in tilde.team via http, gopher and gemini and you can
see the bashblog in action (it's in a permanent state of "meh, maybe
that's good enough"). If it interests you, you can find the script at:

https://tildegit.org/jmcs/bashblog

I'll be interested to see if there's something like a "reverse gegobi"
out there.

I found this:

https://codeberg.org/kreuzer/zine

It uses gemtext as the basis and then produces gophermaps and html. But
it's written in swift, and I don't have a mac, so trying it is probably
going to be a pain.

Cheers,

Koen

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On Sun, 17 May 2026 06:10:17 -0000 (UTC)
gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) wrote:

In comp.infosystems.gemini Visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> wrote:

I've used Solderpunk's gegobi for this purpose, but it works in the opposite direction, taking your gopher content and making it
available on gemini.

Here's a link:

https://git.sr.ht/~solderpunk/gegobi

Ah, interesting. I see it runs a server that actively
fetches and translates all requests it gets. I'd prefer
something that just generates files once, instead of for
every request though.

I'll be interested to see if there's something like a "reverse
gegobi" out there.

I found this:

https://codeberg.org/kreuzer/zine

It uses gemtext as the basis and then produces gophermaps and html.
But it's written in swift, and I don't have a mac, so trying it is
probably going to be a pain.

Cheers,

Koen

That's an interesting approach. I don't mind the idea of serving
gemtext over gopher either. There's nothing particularly annoying or unintuitive about the gemtext format, so I might switch to doing that.

Thanks for the link!

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On Sat, 16 May 2026 18:42:25 -0000 (UTC)
gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) wrote:

Anne Frank <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> wrote:

I'm kind of doing this, mainly Gopher -> Gemini which I find easier
WRT formatting. Probably most people are creating their own
conversion scripts since there's so much variation between the
various Gopher servers.

I guess I'll be doing the same. Ah well, I was looking for
something to build to learn Zig anyway :)

Cheers,

Koen

Here's an interesting project involving a gemtext variation
and several converters (for html, pure gemtext, and atom feeds).

It's in Zig too, so you might just examine his source and write the
gopher tool yourself. :)

https://caolan.uk/software/croftmark/

https://git.sr.ht/~caolan/croftmark

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gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) writes:

Anne Frank <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> wrote:

I'm kind of doing this, mainly Gopher -> Gemini which I find easier
WRT formatting. Probably most people are creating their own
conversion scripts since there's so much variation between the
various Gopher servers.

I guess I'll be doing the same. Ah well, I was looking for
something to build to learn Zig anyway :)

Hi all. I read that this discussing was going on, and I thought I can contribute to it, by sharing my current setup. I post on, and Gopher,
and Web, and Gemini, from Markdown files.

The scripts, for dealing with publications, are on the articles/
directory and are meant to be run with relative paths
(./choose-your-script "hi"). These scripts depend on GNU Coreutils and
on md2html.

I have been perfecting them over the time. These setup suits me well,
although I haven't made the push to do proper documentation. It can be
a great source for inspiration, at minimum.

http://tilde.club/~keyboardan/files/presencix.tar.gz

Hope this helps. I will now be subscribing to this newsgroup.

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