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Hi!

I'm pretty much new to the gemini universe, one thing I think would be
useful would be some sort of tooling where I could "poke" my server,
something like "curl".

I've seen curl devs refused to implement it in another post, but what is
the alternative besides using a browser?

Am I overthinking it? What do you guys do when you want to play sending requests to a development server?
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Croma <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

Hi!

I'm pretty much new to the gemini universe, one thing I think would be
useful would be some sort of tooling where I could "poke" my server, something like "curl".

I've seen curl devs refused to implement it in another post, but what is
the alternative besides using a browser?

Am I overthinking it? What do you guys do when you want to play sending requests to a development server?

What do you need?

Just request a page to trigger some action on the server?

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$ printf 'gemini://geminiprotocol.net/docs/specification.gmi\r\n' \

| ncat --ssl geminiprotocol.net 1965 \
| fmt | head

# Project Gemini specifications

In late March 2024, the official Gemini specification was refactored into
two separate documents, one which addresses only the network protocol
and one which addresses only the markup format. Both specifications are intended to be more formal and less ambiguous than the combined document
which historical served as a "speculative specification".

protocol-specification.gmi Gemini network protocol specification gemtext-specification.gmi Gemini hypertext format ("gemtext")

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yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

What do you need?

Just request a page to trigger some action on the server?

Yes, something like that. Like when you use curl to poke an HTTP
service during development.

For now, what you showed is enough, thanks.

I've been testing with gnutls-cli, so something like:

$ printf 'gemini://geminiprotocol.net/docs/specification.gmi\r\n'
| gnutls-cli --insecure geminiprotocol.net:1965

works fine for my current needs.
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Croma <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

I've been testing with gnutls-cli, so something like:

$ printf 'gemini://geminiprotocol.net/docs/specification.gmi\r\n'
| gnutls-cli --insecure geminiprotocol.net:1965

works fine for my current needs.

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Croma <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

I've seen curl devs refused to implement it in another post, but what is
the alternative besides using a browser?

There are multiple such programs (unfortunately not curl itself, although
in my opinion they should; you can use the -k switch to disable checking
the certificate if needed).

One of them is a program I wrote myself, which supports other protocols
as well (including Titan, and also limited support for HTTP).

However, you can also use "echo | ncat --ssl | tail-n+2", so you do not
need specialized software for this use.
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Hi, is gmni what you are looking for?

```
christopher@theoden ~$ guix show gmni
name: gmni
version: 1.0
outputs:
+ out: everything
systems: x86_64-linux i686-linux
dependencies: bearssl@0.6 pkg-config@0.29.2 scdoc@1.11.4
location: gnu/packages/web-browsers.scm:737:2
homepage: https://sr.ht/~sircmpwn/gmni
license: GPL 3+, non-copyleft
synopsis: Minimalist command line Gemini client
description: The gmni package includes:
+
+ * A CLI utility (like curl): gmni
+
+ * A line-mode browser: gmnlm
```
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Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com> writes:

Hi, is gmni what you are looking for?

```
christopher@theoden ~$ guix show gmni
name: gmni
version: 1.0
outputs:
+ out: everything
systems: x86_64-linux i686-linux
dependencies: bearssl@0.6 pkg-config@0.29.2 scdoc@1.11.4
location: gnu/packages/web-browsers.scm:737:2
homepage: https://sr.ht/~sircmpwn/gmni
license: GPL 3+, non-copyleft
synopsis: Minimalist command line Gemini client
description: The gmni package includes:
+
+ * A CLI utility (like curl): gmni
+
+ * A line-mode browser: gmnlm
```

Thanks, cool project!
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I don't know if this could be useful to you, but the client I use,
diohsc, is made to be able to invoke requests from the command line non-interactively. With tinkering able to do some tricks like send
submissions while using a client certificate, and I use that in bash
scripts.

Ben
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