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On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 6:33:36 AM UTC-5, Bud Spencer wrote:

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, awsomecat1234321@gmail.com wrote:

Because of ISP's going nuts about piracy. Piracy is bad, but Usenet File Sharing popularity is dropping because everyone is realizing how bad Piracy is, so that's why we have Netflix. Also now everyone is using Reddit, Slashdot, and Fark to discuss stuff going on, and Telnet's and Usenet's good ole forms of discussion is coming into the hands of Reddit. I hope this gives you a basic understanding.

Your undestanding of things is invalid.

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But if you go all around Google Groups' Usenet Archive you will see that there are a bunch of people going "I want this movie!" all over the place, also; Netflix and Soundcloud are ending the "Pirate" area. So just please take my advice.
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On Mon, 2 Mar 2020, awsomecat1234321@gmail.com wrote:

So just please take my advice.

Nobody asked for your advice.


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On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 15:05:46 -0800 (PST)
awsomecat1234321@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 6:33:36 AM UTC-5, Bud Spencer wrote:

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, awsomecat1234321@gmail.com wrote:

Because of ISP's going nuts about piracy. Piracy is bad, but Usenet File Sharing popularity is dropping because everyone is realizing how bad Piracy is, so that's why we have Netflix. Also now everyone is using Reddit, Slashdot, and Fark to discuss stuff going on, and Telnet's and Usenet's good ole forms of discussion is coming into the hands of Reddit. I hope this gives you a basic understanding.

Your undestanding of things is invalid.

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Bud
/

But if you go all around Google Groups' Usenet Archive you will see that there are a bunch of people going "I want this movie!" all over the place, also; Netflix and Soundcloud are ending the "Pirate" area. So just please take my advice.

I don't know about Soundcloud's market share but Netflix and Spotify offer convenient ways of getting stuff that is legal and thus appeal to a lot of people. Old movie houses are blaming everything on piracy and don't want to admit that their business model is obsolete. Why people isn't asking for movies on Usenet anymore is probably because it's popularity have declined and piracy have moved into harder to trace places where one does not risk getting caught as easy.

But I don't know what this have to do with gopher?
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awsomecat1234321@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 6:33:36 AM UTC-5, Bud Spencer wrote:

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, awsomecat1234321@gmail.com wrote:

Because of ISP's going nuts about piracy. Piracy is bad, but
Usenet File Sharing popularity is dropping because everyone
is realizing how bad Piracy is, so that's why we have Netflix.
Also now everyone is using Reddit, Slashdot, and Fark to
discuss stuff going on, and Telnet's and Usenet's good ole
forms of discussion is coming into the hands of Reddit. I hope
this gives you a basic understanding.

Your undestanding of things is invalid.

But if you go all around Google Groups' Usenet Archive you will
see that there are a bunch of people going "I want this movie!"
all over the place, also; Netflix and Soundcloud are ending the
"Pirate" area. So just please take my advice.

I wasn't going to credit this with a reply, but as long as the the
discussion is persisting anyway...

My query about why Usenet wasn't seeing a resurgence akin to Gopher
was obviously not concerning the binary groups. Gopher's boom is
apparantly by virtue of its text-only presentation and lack of commercialisation compared to the web. I don't think anyone cares
much for it as a particular method of sharing large binary files,
nor should they have reason to.

With regard to Usenet's discussion groups (the protocol's intended
purpose), they share similar characteristics (at least if you're not
viewing them with some horrible Google interface that doesn't even
wrap your lines for you). So regardless of the fact that there are commercialised, inefficient, unstandardised, alternatives on the web,
I might have hoped that the same crowd that is attracted to Gopher
would come over to Usenet and boost its numbers which have been
falling for years.

Dying groups that I've been following are only looking more dead now,
and references to Usenet on Gopher are few and far between, so it
appears to me that this isn't happening. The fact of Reddit's
existance does not answer my question, as it presents none of the
important characteristics (ignoring the users themselves, who I can't
compare because I hardly ever view Reddit myself) that I see shared
between Gopher and Usenet. Far more so with Netflix, and probably
whatever Soundcloud is.
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On Tue, 3 Mar 2020, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

My query about why Usenet wasn't seeing a resurgence akin to Gopher
was obviously not concerning the binary groups. Gopher's boom is
apparantly by virtue of its text-only presentation and lack of commercialisation compared to the web. I don't think anyone cares
much for it as a particular method of sharing large binary files,
nor should they have reason to.

With regard to Usenet's discussion groups (the protocol's intended
purpose), they share similar characteristics (at least if you're not
viewing them with some horrible Google interface that doesn't even
wrap your lines for you). So regardless of the fact that there are commercialised, inefficient, unstandardised, alternatives on the web,
I might have hoped that the same crowd that is attracted to Gopher
would come over to Usenet and boost its numbers which have been
falling for years.

Dying groups that I've been following are only looking more dead now,
and references to Usenet on Gopher are few and far between, so it
appears to me that this isn't happening. The fact of Reddit's
existance does not answer my question, as it presents none of the
important characteristics (ignoring the users themselves, who I can't
compare because I hardly ever view Reddit myself) that I see shared
between Gopher and Usenet. Far more so with Netflix, and probably
whatever Soundcloud is.

Your understanding is valid!


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On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 2:23:46 PM UTC-5, Mateusz Viste wrote:

Hello Gophersphere,

I recently created this:
gopher://gopher.viste.fr/1/ogup

After a few days of collecting data, I see that there are around 400
gopher servers in the world. Last time I counted (few years ago), the gopherspace was totaling some 100 online servers.

Am I confused, or is the gopherspace expanding?

Mateusz
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gopher://gopher.viste.fr

I was replying to Computer Nerd Kev's post
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On 3/3/20 6:51 AM, Pinku Basudei wrote:

On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 15:05:46 -0800 (PST)
awsomecat1234321@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 6:33:36 AM UTC-5, Bud Spencer wrote:

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, awsomecat1234321@gmail.com wrote:

Because of ISP's going nuts about piracy. Piracy is bad, but Usenet File Sharing popularity is dropping because everyone is realizing how bad Piracy is, so that's why we have Netflix. Also now everyone is using Reddit, Slashdot, and Fark to discuss stuff going on, and Telnet's and Usenet's good ole forms of discussion is coming into the hands of Reddit. I hope this gives you a basic understanding.

Your undestanding of things is invalid.


/
Bud
/

But if you go all around Google Groups' Usenet Archive you will see that there are a bunch of people going "I want this movie!" all over the place, also; Netflix and Soundcloud are ending the "Pirate" area. So just please take my advice.

I don't know about Soundcloud's market share but Netflix and Spotify offer convenient ways of getting stuff that is legal and thus appeal to a lot of people. Old movie houses are blaming everything on piracy and don't want to admit that their business model is obsolete. Why people isn't asking for movies on Usenet anymore is probably because it's popularity have declined and piracy have moved into harder to trace places where one does not risk getting caught as easy.

But I don't know what this have to do with gopher?

Netflix's growth in the industry didn't occur because it was the legal
way, but because the monthly cost hit consumers in the sweet spot. For
the longest time it was less than $10/month and, at first, included the
mailed dvd service. The price has since gone up and the justification
was to pay for more original content. My friends who have small children
love it because it keeps the kids occupied with cartoons.

We quit netflix over a year ago when we realized that we're rarely in
the mood to watch anything available. Much newer content would fall off
the list but they had shitloads of older movies, tv shows, and loads of original content we have no interest in watching. The quality simply
isn't there.

The wife would've spent 45 minutes flipping through album art, shut the
tv off, and grab a book. Months would go by without seeing a single thing.

We realized that amazon prime was, more or less, the same thing as
netflix (minus the original content) and included rentals, plus the free shipping (which we use often).

Netflix was an easy decision to drop. Just look at disney+

These days, it's either redbox or the library for movies more often than
not.
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On Wed, 11 Mar 2020, Daniel wrote:

My friends who have small children love it because it keeps the kids occupied with cartoons.

Exactly what it's for. To program ... earlier the better. Just like
zombie-box and is for.

This netflix thing is gross propaganda spitting tool to control people's
views and spread the nonsense.

Your mentioned books are and will be best way to enjoy stories.

These days, it's either redbox or the library for movies more often than not.

Never head of Redbox before and initial chekc ended up with:

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So I'll never know :)

Nor I need to ...


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Bud Spencer <bud@campo.verano.it> writes:

Never head of Redbox before and initial chekc ended up with:

403 ERROR
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Request blocked. We can't connect to the server for this app or
website at this time. There might be too much traffic or a
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So I'll never know :)

Nor I need to ...

If you're in the US, Redbox is essentially a DVD rental vending machine you can find in a lot of grocery stores, gas stations, pharmacies. With the
decline of movie rental *stores*, it's filled a niche, particularly in
areas where Internet service is too slow to stream well.

I don't know if they exist outside of the US.



john
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John Floren <jfloren@eternal-september.org> writes:

If you're in the US, Redbox is essentially a DVD rental vending machine you can
find in a lot of grocery stores, gas stations, pharmacies. With the
decline of movie rental *stores*, it's filled a niche, particularly in
areas where Internet service is too slow to stream well.

Except that they kept putting "copy protection" on the DVD's (bad sectors, malformed directory entries, ...). Most families kept 3-4 DVD players,
and hoped at least one of them would manage to play a given disk.
Seems like users got tired of it, and moved on to something more convenient. The one in the local market is increasingly just sitting idle.

Andy
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On 3/12/20 6:35 AM, Bud Spencer wrote:

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020, Daniel wrote:

My friends who have small children love it because it keeps the kids
occupied with cartoons.

Exactly what it's for. To program ... earlier the better. Just like zombie-box and is for.

This netflix thing is gross propaganda spitting tool to control people's views and spread the nonsense.

Your mentioned books are and will be best way to enjoy stories.

These days, it's either redbox or the library for movies more often
than not.

Never head of Redbox before and initial chekc ended up with:

403 ERROR
The request could not be satisfied.
Request blocked. We can't connect to the server for this app or website
at this time. There might be too much traffic or a configuration error.
Try again later, or contact the app or website owner.
If you provide content to customers through CloudFront, you can find
steps to troubleshoot and help prevent this error by reviewing the CloudFront documentation.

Generated by cloudfront (CloudFront)
Request ID: Th9T4gemRBhkPmE4xoXnhtg2kNs3NygbjcsRIAcjREK54uB_x3WpBQ==

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So I'll never know :)

Not sure why redbox didn't come up for you, but if you're serious.. It
was the final nail in the coffin for movie rental companies like
Hollywood Video and Blockbuster (though blockbuster still has a single
store in Oregon). They are kiosks where you can rent movies and gives
you an option to purchase them too. About $1.50 per movie. You don't
have to return the movie rented at the box you got it from. They accept returns anywhere. ANd you can have the option to buy the movie later if
you want to keep it. Pretty flexible, and nothing like blockbuster where
a rental bill could surpass $100 if you lose the video.

They are all over the place.
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On Sat, 14 Mar 2020, Daniel wrote:

Not sure why redbox didn't come up for you, but if you're serious..

Not really.

They are kiosks where you can rent movies and gives you an option to purchase them too.

I don't watch new movies and almost all watchable old ones are already archived.

They are all over the place.

Never seen one. Probably they are not yet spread like corona is ...

But thanks anyway to take your time to write the reply.


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not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) writes:

Dying groups that I've been following are only looking more dead now,
and references to Usenet on Gopher are few and far between, so it
appears to me that this isn't happening. The fact of Reddit's
existance does not answer my question, as it presents none of the
important characteristics (ignoring the users themselves, who I can't
compare because I hardly ever view Reddit myself) that I see shared
between Gopher and Usenet. Far more so with Netflix, and probably
whatever Soundcloud is.

Usenet and Gopher remain relevant for those who have always loved it.
The fact that they're not popular with the masses is potentially
irrelevant.

The fact that you can handle the entire browsing session at the console
is pure bonus.
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Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> wrote:

RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> writes:

Usenet and Gopher remain relevant for those who have always loved it.
The fact that they're not popular with the masses is potentially
irrelevant.

Sometimes it's a feature. Although against the mandate of Social Media, a small group sharing high-quality posts is perfectly fine with me. The bottom 1% of a million people is too much ugliness for me.

Sure, as long as the small groups exist at all for all of the topics
that you're interested in. Eg. yesterday I was excited to see some
new posts in rec.photo.equipment.35mm, but it turns out to just be a
surge of cross-posted trolling (bottom 0.001%?).
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On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 15:05:46 -0800 (PST)
awsomecat1234321@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 6:33:36 AM UTC-5, Bud Spencer wrote:

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020, awsomecat1234321@gmail.com wrote:

Because of ISP's going nuts about piracy. Piracy is bad, but
Usenet File Sharing popularity is dropping because everyone is
realizing how bad Piracy is, so that's why we have Netflix. Also
now everyone is using Reddit, Slashdot, and Fark to discuss stuff
going on, and Telnet's and Usenet's good ole forms of discussion
is coming into the hands of Reddit. I hope this gives you a basic understanding.

Your undestanding of things is invalid.

/
Bud
/

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But if you go all around Google Groups' Usenet Archive you will see
that there are a bunch of people going "I want this movie!" all over
the place, also; Netflix and Soundcloud are ending the "Pirate" area.
So just please take my advice.

I doubt piracy will ever end. There will always be a demand for people
who don't want to spend money for content and there will be people who
will do whatever they can to do so.

Also the current trend of increasing web subscriptions for
video-on-demand services is really itching the pirate scratch in me.

Why would I pay $15/month for every media mogul where I want to watch
the latest content from? I can just jump to an indexer and with a decent
usenet provider I will be done in no time. Plus, I get the added value
of actually having the content in my hard drive. That's cool if I
want to go without internet when I'm travelling.

So yeah, it's a long winded way of saying that I don't think piracy
ended or will end.
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On 2021-11-28, rtr <rtr@nospam.invalid> wrote:

I doubt piracy will ever end. There will always be a demand for people
who don't want to spend money for content and there will be people who
will do whatever they can to do so.

Also the current trend of increasing web subscriptions for
video-on-demand services is really itching the pirate scratch in me.

Why would I pay $15/month for every media mogul where I want to watch
the latest content from? I can just jump to an indexer and with a decent usenet provider I will be done in no time. Plus, I get the added value
of actually having the content in my hard drive. That's cool if I
want to go without internet when I'm travelling.

So yeah, it's a long winded way of saying that I don't think piracy
ended or will end.

Agreed on all the line. I would like to add that,
these services are often not keeping the content I
like, or maybe they do but you never know when they'll
remove it.

Having my own private copy is much better.
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 21:09:51 -0000 (UTC)
Johnatan Duck <pato@thunder.local> wrote:

On 2021-11-28, rtr <rtr@nospam.invalid> wrote:

I doubt piracy will ever end. There will always be a demand for
people who don't want to spend money for content and there will be
people who will do whatever they can to do so.

Also the current trend of increasing web subscriptions for
video-on-demand services is really itching the pirate scratch in me.

Why would I pay $15/month for every media mogul where I want to
watch the latest content from? I can just jump to an indexer and
with a decent usenet provider I will be done in no time. Plus, I
get the added value of actually having the content in my hard
drive. That's cool if I want to go without internet when I'm
travelling.

So yeah, it's a long winded way of saying that I don't think piracy
ended or will end.

Agreed on all the line. I would like to add that,
these services are often not keeping the content I
like, or maybe they do but you never know when they'll
remove it.

Having my own private copy is much better.

Oh for sure! It does annoy me from time to time whenever a series or
movie that I want to watch isn't on Netflix and I'm just reminded that
it's better to just yank it off somewhere rather than pay for a service
that doesn't even have a complete library of stuff that I want to
watch.

And yes. A private copy is certainly much better, it never made any
sense to me to not have a copy of a media that I wanted to read, watch
or listen to.
--
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On Friday 3 December 2021 at 06:58:19 UTC, rtr wrote:

On Thu, 2 Dec 2021 21:09:51 -0000 (UTC)
Johnatan Duck <pa...@thunder.local> wrote:

On 2021-11-28, rtr <r...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

I doubt piracy will ever end. There will always be a demand for
people who don't want to spend money for content and there will be people who will do whatever they can to do so.

Also the current trend of increasing web subscriptions for video-on-demand services is really itching the pirate scratch in me.

Why would I pay $15/month for every media mogul where I want to
watch the latest content from? I can just jump to an indexer and
with a decent usenet provider I will be done in no time. Plus, I
get the added value of actually having the content in my hard
drive. That's cool if I want to go without internet when I'm
travelling.

So yeah, it's a long winded way of saying that I don't think piracy ended or will end.

Agreed on all the line. I would like to add that,
these services are often not keeping the content I
like, or maybe they do but you never know when they'll
remove it.

Having my own private copy is much better.

Oh for sure! It does annoy me from time to time whenever a series or
movie that I want to watch isn't on Netflix and I'm just reminded that
it's better to just yank it off somewhere rather than pay for a service
that doesn't even have a complete library of stuff that I want to
watch.

And yes. A private copy is certainly much better, it never made any
sense to me to not have a copy of a media that I wanted to read, watch
or listen to.
--
Give them an inch and they will take a mile.

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