• =?UTF-8?Q?=28inverted_=28upside-down=29_chars=29_--_Madam=2C_I=27m_?= =?UTF-8?B?QWRhbS4gwrfJr8mQcOKxryDJryxJICfJr8mQcMmQVyAoYWJjZGUsIMedcMmUccmQ?= =?UTF-8?Q?=29?=

    From HenHanna@HenHanna@devnull.tb to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors on Sat May 4 10:36:04 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.fonts


    Is there a nice Web page or a Youtube Clip that
    explains these inverted (upside-down) characters? (abcde, |Yp+oq+E)


    Madam, I'm Adam. -++>+Epr#> +>,I '+>+Ep+EW
    -++>+Epr#> +>,I '+>+Ep+EW |Yp+oq+E



    ____________________________

    i'd like to see more strange, pretty chars like these:

    noUnoe Wow! that's your name????
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  • From HenHanna@HenHanna@devnull.tb to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors,rec.puzzles,alt.usage.english on Sat May 4 10:46:09 2024
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    (inverted (upside-down) chars)
    -- Can i enter them in Gmail without going to a Web site?

    -+|Y-cb|es q|YM +E o-c |aub|eo|a -cno+N-cb|e-i lb|e+E+>no? ub|e +>|Y+N-c +||Y-cu|Y b|e u+E|a --
    (s+|+E+N+o (u-iop-|Ypb|esdn) p|Y-c+||Y-iub|e)


    (up-dn)

    __________________

    Is there a nice Web page or a Youtube Clip that
    explains these inverted (upside-down)-a characters?-a
    (abcde, |Yp+oq+E)



    -a-a-a-a-a Madam,-a I'm Adam.-a-a-a -++>+Epr#> +>,I '+>+Ep+EW
    -a-a-a-a-a -++>+Epr#> +>,I '+>+Ep+EW-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a |Yp+oq+E



    ____________________________

    i'd like to see-a more-a-a strange,-a pretty-a chars like these:

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a noUnoe-a-a-a Wow!-a-a that's your name????

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  • From Carl G.@carlgnews@microprizes.com to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors,rec.puzzles,alt.usage.english on Sat May 4 11:52:56 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.fonts

    There are a couple of ways to flip text without a website.

    One could enter HTML code to create "upside down" text, but it is labor intensive. You need to look up the necessary Unicode character numbers.
    For example the HTML for the inverted characters for "Hello World!" are:

    ¡plɹoM ollǝH

    which results in:

    -ipl+|oM oll|YH

    Note that the characters are a mix of regular characters ("H", "o", "M",
    "l", "p") and special characters (&#633 = "+|").

    Alternatively, you can create an HTML-compatible document file with a "flipped" character set. For example:

    abcedfghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
    ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
    1234567890-=
    !@#$%^&*() +

    Becomes:

    + ()*rai^%$#@-i
    =-068paN9-cpau|Ebaa|u
    ZraaXM+cre-ro|S+|Q+CONW-N-R++IH+nra#|Ap|aqreC z-Ax-i-in-cs+|bdou+>l-R++b|e+N|a+fp|Y+oq+E

    One can then copy and paste to create the flipped text. This is how one created flipped text before websites were available. Before Unicode,
    one had to be more creative using ASCII-only characters. I created a
    mystery puzzle for rec.puzzles years ago using ASCII-only characters.

    -Carl G.

    On 5/4/2024 10:46 AM, HenHanna wrote:

    (inverted (upside-down) chars)
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a -- Can i enter them in Gmail without going to a Web site?

    -+|Y-cb|es q|YM +E o-c |aub|eo|a -cno+N-cb|e-i lb|e+E+>no? ub|e +>|Y+N-c +||Y-cu|Y b|e u+E|a --
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a (s+|+E+N+o (u-iop-|Ypb|esdn) p|Y-c+||Y-iub|e)


    (up-dn)

    __________________

    -aIs there a nice Web page or a Youtube Clip that
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a explains these inverted (upside-down)-a characters?
    (abcde, |Yp+oq+E)



    -a-a-a-a-a-a Madam,-a I'm Adam.-a-a-a -++>+Epr#> +>,I '+>+Ep+EW
    -a-a-a-a-a-a -++>+Epr#> +>,I '+>+Ep+EW-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a |Yp+oq+E



    ____________________________

    i'd like to see-a more-a-a strange,-a pretty-a chars like these:

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a noUnoe-a-a-a Wow!-a-a that's your name????

    --
    Carl G.


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  • From Carl G.@carlgnews@microprizes.com to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors,rec.puzzles,alt.usage.english on Sat May 4 15:30:56 2024
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    The puzzle I posted in 2000 that was based on ASCII-only "flipped" text
    is below.

    The Case of the Smart Leopard

    After the death of Artie Barnes, detectives Ohms and Wattson were
    contacted by his daughter.

    "I'm Agnes", she said, "Mr. Barnes only heir."

    "What can we do for you?", asked Ohms.

    She explained, "My father left me his stamp collection in his will. Most
    of the stamps have only nominal value, but one stamp with a picture of a leopard on it, commonly called the "Lava Blue", is supposed to be
    priceless. Few people knew that he had it in his possession. I looked
    in his stamp collection and found all of the stamps except for that one.
    In its place was this note, apparently written in code."

    She handed Ohms and Wattson a small scrap of paper. On the paper was
    written:

    A Sure Rest

    ase)J!e+say+dn'da+s
    puo)asey+uo+adJe)
    ay+Japunpa+e)o|s!
    aJnseaJ++aJ)ashW

    After studying the note for a while, Wattson exclaimed, "Ah-ha! I
    notice that the title is an anagram for 'Arrest Sue'. Perhaps she stole
    the stamp!".

    "Are you sure? My father did like anagrams, but I can't think of any
    'Sue' it may refer to.", said Agnes.

    "It's an anagram, but I think you have things reversed.", Ohms stated,
    "The note clearly tells us the likely location of the stamp!".

    Where is the stamp?

    Carl G.

    Bonus points for finding other appropriate anagrams in this puzzle.
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  • From HenHanna@HenHanna@dev.null to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors,rec.puzzles,alt.usage.english on Sun May 5 00:21:25 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.fonts

    Carl G. wrote:

    There are a couple of ways to flip text without a website.

    One could enter HTML code to create "upside down" text, but it is labor intensive. You need to look up the necessary Unicode character numbers.
    For example the HTML for the inverted characters for "Hello World!" are:

    ¡plɹoM ollǝH

    which results in:

    -ipl+|oM oll|YH

    Note that the characters are a mix of regular characters ("H", "o", "M",

    "l", "p") and special characters (&#633 = "+|").

    Alternatively, you can create an HTML-compatible document file with a "flipped" character set. For example:

    abcedfghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
    ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
    1234567890-=
    !@#$%^&*() +

    Becomes:

    + ()*rai^%$#@-i
    =-068paN9-cpau|Ebaa|u
    ZraaXM+cre-ro|S+|Q+CONW-N-R++IH+nra#|Ap|aqreC z-Ax-i-in-cs+|bdou+>l-R++b|e+N|a+fp|Y+oq+E



    thank you for the puzzle and explanation....


    here's Commonym puzzles.

    (easy) 1. What is the common link? Beetle, Rabbit, Passat

    2. What is the common link? Bubble, Cork, Question

    3. What is the common link (or thread)? Play, Gray,
    Bay

    ________________________________________________
    a much harder problem is....

    There's the scarlet thread of murder running through the
    colourless skein of
    life, and our duty is to unravel it, and isolate it, and expose
    every
    inch of it. And now for lunch, and then for Norman Neruda.
    Her attack
    and her bowing are splendid. What's that little thing of
    Chopin's she
    plays so magnificently: Tra-la-la-lira-lira-lay."

    When SH (Sherlock Holmes) says Tra-la-la-lira-lira-lay, what piece is he referring to?
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  • From HenHanna@HenHanna@dev.null to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors,rec.puzzles,alt.usage.english on Sun May 5 21:20:02 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.fonts

    Carl G. wrote:

    There are a couple of ways to flip text without a website.

    One could enter HTML code to create "upside down" text, but it is labor intensive. You need to look up the necessary Unicode character numbers.
    For example the HTML for the inverted characters for "Hello World!" are:

    ¡plɹoM ollǝH

    which results in:

    -ipl+|oM oll|YH

    Note that the characters are a mix of regular characters ("H", "o", "M", "l", "p") and special characters (&#633 = "+|").

    -------------- Is that Russian?


    (inverted (upside-down) chars) -- Are they robust ? --(i.e.) Can all major browsers display them reliably?


    Are there some inverted chars for Kanji and Hiragana, Katakana?


    Are there also (Left-Right) mirror-image characters???
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors on Sun May 5 22:46:22 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.fonts

    On Sat, 4 May 2024 10:36:04 -0700, HenHanna wrote:

    Is there a nice Web page or a Youtube Clip that explains these inverted (upside-down) characters? (abcde, |Yp+oq+E)

    Wikipedia, as usual: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotated_letter>.

    no-ns-c +Epp|Yp +E rCL-co-+|o-c+E-c|YprCY raAnu+o-cb|eou -co +>-A |A+>+E+os p|YraAb|eub|e-cb|eous
    <https://gitlab.com/ldo/emacs-prefs>.
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  • From HenHanna@HenHanna@dev.null to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors on Mon May 6 04:24:35 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.fonts

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 4 May 2024 10:36:04 -0700, HenHanna wrote:

    Is there a nice Web page or a Youtube Clip that explains these inverted
    (upside-down) characters? (abcde, |Yp+oq+E)

    Wikipedia, as usual: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotated_letter>.


    thanks!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotated_letter



    no-ns-c +Epp|Yp +E rCL-co-+|o-c+E-c|YprCY raAnu+o-cb|eou -co +>-A |A+>+E+os p|YraAb|eub|e-cb|eous
    <https://gitlab.com/ldo/emacs-prefs>.


    i wish i could do that easily within Vi.


    btw... i only recently learned that Vim was a regular ol' noun.




    vim /vim/ Origin = mid 19th century (originally US): perhaps from Latin, accusative of vis rCyenergyrCO.



    What does vim mean in British slang? ------ Vim is energy and enthusiasm. If you've got vim, then you probably pack a little extra oomph in your life! Vim is an odd-looking word, but it stands for a simple concept: being ready for activity, especially vigorous activity. Someone who is always playing sports or going on trips is full of vim.





    What is the origin of vim? --- In 1988, a Dutch software developer named Bram Moolenaar got a new Amiga computer and wanted to start editing in vi.
    Stevie was buggy and unsatisfying, so Moolenaar began writing a new vi port, based on its source code. He named the project 'Vi IMitation', or 'Vim' for short.
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors on Mon May 6 05:54:48 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.fonts

    On Mon, 6 May 2024 04:24:35 +0000, HenHanna wrote:

    i wish i could do that easily within Vi.

    vi is to editors what PHP is to programming languages.

    What does vim mean in British slang? ------ Vim is energy and
    enthusiasm.

    The phrase I remember coming across was rCLpep, vim and vigourrCY.

    If you want an editor with all three, and not just one, you canrCOt go past Emacs!
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  • From Adam Funk@a24061@ducksburg.com to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors,rec.puzzles,alt.usage.english on Mon May 6 17:04:51 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.fonts

    On 2024-05-04, HenHanna wrote:


    (inverted (upside-down) chars)
    -- Can i enter them in Gmail without going to a Web site?

    Use the upside-down command in the *n*x filters package.
    --
    Just memorize these shell commands and type them to sync up. If you
    get errors, save your work elsewhere, delete the project, and download
    a fresh copy. <https://xkcd.com/1597/>
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  • From Blue-Maned_Hawk@bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors on Tue May 7 11:53:30 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.fonts

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Mon, 6 May 2024 04:24:35 +0000, HenHanna wrote:

    i wish i could do that easily within Vi.

    vi is to editors what PHP is to programming languages.

    Counterpoint: I'm not aware of a website called rCyVi SadnessrCOrCaor any reasons to create such a thing.
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    "Yes." rCo BUGS section of the 9front manpage on emacs(1)
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  • From HenHanna@HenHanna@dev.null to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors,rec.puzzles,alt.usage.english on Tue May 7 18:52:26 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.fonts

    Carl G. wrote:

    The puzzle I posted in 2000 that was based on ASCII-only "flipped" text is below.

    The Case of the Smart Leopard
    After the death of Artie Barnes, detectives Ohms and Wattson were contacted by his daughter.

    maybe better as Homes and Wotsan, (?)



    A Sure Rest

    ase)J!e+say+dn'da+s
    puo)asey+uo+adJe)
    ay+Japunpa+e)o|s!
    aJnseaJ++aJ)ashW


    i think i like it better when it looks less like
    the CODE in Poe's Gold Bug, (with regular t's) as:

    ase)J!etsaytdn'dats
    puo)aseytuotadJe)
    aytJapunpate)ols!
    aJnseaJttaJ)ashW


    ---------------- Maybe ) is better replaced with r ? -------- (i'm not sure)


    ase+oJ!etsaytdn'dats
    puo+oaseytuotadJe+o
    aytJapunpate+ools!
    aJnseaJttaJ+oashW



    asecJietsaytdn'dats puocaseytuotadJec aytJapunpatecolsi aJnseaJttaJcashW

    sayt casey Japun patecols
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors on Tue May 7 22:11:28 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.fonts

    On Tue, 7 May 2024 11:53:30 -0000 (UTC), Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Mon, 6 May 2024 04:24:35 +0000, HenHanna wrote:

    i wish i could do that easily within Vi.

    vi is to editors what PHP is to programming languages.

    Counterpoint: I'm not aware of a website called rCyVi SadnessrCOrCaor any reasons to create such a thing.

    Well, we have an entry here for such a site.
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  • From Carl G.@carlgnews@microprizes.com to comp.fonts,sci.lang,comp.editors,rec.puzzles,alt.usage.english on Tue May 7 15:32:02 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.fonts

    On 5/7/2024 11:52 AM, HenHanna wrote:
    Carl G. wrote:

    The puzzle I posted in 2000 that was based on ASCII-only "flipped"
    text is below.

    The Case of the Smart Leopard
    After the death of Artie Barnes, detectives Ohms and Wattson were
    contacted by his daughter.

    maybe better as Homes and Wotsan, (?)

    If I recall correctly, I picked "Ohms and Wattson" because I had used
    those names in an earlier puzzle and liked the electrical puns (e.g.,
    "Do not resist, we have you covered!"). I had also done an Internet
    search to find out which names others had used to spoof "Sherlock Holmes
    and Doctor Watson", and I did not find "Ohms and Wattson" being used at
    that time (around 2000). If I can find my notes, I might be able to
    create a list of the names I chose not to use.

    ObPuzzle/Word Play:

    Create other names that can be used to spoof "Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Watson" (e.g., "Schlock and Wit-Shun", "Sure-Crock Groans and Whats-on")
    --
    Carl G.


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  • From HenHanna@HenHanna@devnull.tb to alt.usage.english,rec.puzzles,sci.lang,comp.fonts on Wed May 8 12:45:30 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.fonts

    On 5/8/2024 4:18 AM, Madhu wrote:
    * HenHanna <8eb211fad672d948cc69b6530a34c9cc@www.novabbs.com> :
    Wrote on Tue, 7 May 2024 18:52:26 +0000:
    Carl G. wrote:
    The puzzle I posted in 2000 that was based on ASCII-only "flipped"
    text is below.

    The Case of the Smart Leopard After the death of Artie Barnes,
    detectives Ohms and Wattson were contacted by his daughter.
    A Sure Rest

    A treasure!

    ase)J!e+say+dn'da+s
    puo)asey+uo+adJe)
    ay+Japunpa+e)o|s!
    aJnseaJ++aJ)ashW


    i think i like it better when it looks less like the CODE in Poe's
    Gold Bug, (with regular t's) as:

    formatting fail. There is one typo, but I don't know if that is what
    Hen Hanna spotted,

    The second line should be "puo)asay+uo+adJe)" at the 7th letter (a
    instead of e)

    in 2024 using the `wayfire window manager on "modern linux" with not-so-convenient mouseboundings to rotate a window, but rotating it nevertheless and looking at it with a monospace font at hand revealed
    all without taking away too much fun.

    mysecrettreasure/islocatedunderthe/carpetonthesecond/step,upthestaircase.

    The key is

    "eJodpa+sWn!)y'|hu"
    "aropdetsmuich,lyn"



    ______________________

    The second line should be "puo)asay+uo+adJe)" at the 7th letter (a
    instead of e)

    -------- ok, you're right.



    Madhu ------- is that French?
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