• Re: Cannot use joystick or controller in KEGS, GSPlus, etc.

    From kegs@kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) to comp.emulators.apple2 on Thu Sep 23 20:15:59 2021
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    In article <shf5r9$420$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Nicola <nicola@nohost.org> wrote: >On 2021-09-08, Kent Dickey <kegs@provalid.com> wrote:
    I have purchased a 15-pin joystick to USB adapter, and I can make my old
    Apple II joystick work in Virtual ][ (so the hardware works).

    Wow, that's real commitment to the project!

    Unfortunately, I've not had time to really figure this HID software
    stuff out. I'll get to it soon.

    Thanks! I hope you will be able to take advantage of the existing code
    in Virtual C64!

    Nicola

    Try kegs.1.13.tar.gz from http://kegs.sourceforge.net/. I now use the
    older IOHID code (following the example of Virtual C64) to make my USB
    joystick work, and my Sony PS4 controller still works, too.

    Kent
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  • From Nicola@nicola@nohost.org to comp.emulators.apple2 on Sun Oct 3 09:41:42 2021
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    On 2021-09-24, Kent Dickey <kegs@provalid.com> wrote:
    In article <shf5r9$420$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Nicola <nicola@nohost.org> wrote:
    On 2021-09-08, Kent Dickey <kegs@provalid.com> wrote:
    I have purchased a 15-pin joystick to USB adapter, and I can make my old >>> Apple II joystick work in Virtual ][ (so the hardware works).

    Wow, that's real commitment to the project!

    Unfortunately, I've not had time to really figure this HID software
    stuff out. I'll get to it soon.

    Thanks! I hope you will be able to take advantage of the existing code
    in Virtual C64!

    Nicola

    Try kegs.1.13.tar.gz from http://kegs.sourceforge.net/. I now use the
    older IOHID code (following the example of Virtual C64) to make my USB joystick work, and my Sony PS4 controller still works, too.

    Yeah, my joysticks work great, too! Thanks a lot!

    I have tried it on macOS 10.13 and 11.6. KEGS appears to be a lot
    snappier on older macOS: scrolling through the configuration is
    significantly slower on Big Sur. Also, KEGS starts stuttering when in full-screen in Big Sur. I have no issues with High Sierra, not even when
    in full-screen mode.

    Besides, I have to launch KEGS from the terminal: if I double-click on
    the app, it doesn't seem to pick up config.kegs. And in High Sierra,
    when I launch the KEGS app, it crashes as soon as I try to save or exit
    the configuration screen. When I launch KEGS from the terminal
    everything is fine.

    The above are not big issues for me: I am using KEGS with the older Mac
    anyway, and it's fine for me to start it from the command-line. But you
    may want to look into them.

    Going back in time with Alien Mind now :)

    Thanks again!
    Nicola

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  • From kegs@kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) to comp.emulators.apple2 on Sun Oct 3 22:38:28 2021
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    In article <sjbtsm$1f06$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Nicola <nicola@nohost.org> wrote: >On 2021-09-24, Kent Dickey <kegs@provalid.com> wrote:
    In article <shf5r9$420$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Nicola <nicola@nohost.org> wrote: >>>On 2021-09-08, Kent Dickey <kegs@provalid.com> wrote:
    I have purchased a 15-pin joystick to USB adapter, and I can make my old >>>> Apple II joystick work in Virtual ][ (so the hardware works).

    Wow, that's real commitment to the project!

    Unfortunately, I've not had time to really figure this HID software
    stuff out. I'll get to it soon.

    Thanks! I hope you will be able to take advantage of the existing code
    in Virtual C64!

    Nicola

    Try kegs.1.13.tar.gz from http://kegs.sourceforge.net/. I now use the
    older IOHID code (following the example of Virtual C64) to make my USB
    joystick work, and my Sony PS4 controller still works, too.

    Yeah, my joysticks work great, too! Thanks a lot!

    I have tried it on macOS 10.13 and 11.6. KEGS appears to be a lot
    snappier on older macOS: scrolling through the configuration is
    significantly slower on Big Sur. Also, KEGS starts stuttering when in >full-screen in Big Sur. I have no issues with High Sierra, not even when
    in full-screen mode.

    Besides, I have to launch KEGS from the terminal: if I double-click on
    the app, it doesn't seem to pick up config.kegs. And in High Sierra,
    when I launch the KEGS app, it crashes as soon as I try to save or exit
    the configuration screen. When I launch KEGS from the terminal
    everything is fine.

    KEGS uses a very simple way to draw to the screen. Apple has decided to
    do a TON of work to process the pixels (which I used every means I
    could figure out to ask it not to), so that on some Macs, KEGS draws to
    the screen extremely slowly. On other Macs, it works fine.

    Every other app avoids this by writing 1500 lines of complex code to use
    Metal to just send pixels to the screen. I have not done this yet.

    One user suggested doing Cmd-I on the KEGSMAC.app icon, and selecting
    "Open in Low Resolution" button. I've not fully confirmed this, but
    it might help.

    KEGS doesn't fully support being run by the Finder yet. I'm working on it.
    If you place config.kegs and your ROM file in your home directory, then
    running KEGS from the Finder (double-clicking on it) will work.

    Kent
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  • From Nicola@nicola@nohost.org to comp.emulators.apple2 on Thu Oct 7 18:12:14 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.emulators.apple2

    On 2021-10-04, Kent Dickey <kegs@provalid.com> wrote:
    One user suggested doing Cmd-I on the KEGSMAC.app icon, and selecting
    "Open in Low Resolution" button. I've not fully confirmed this, but
    it might help.

    That help indeed, thanks!
    Nicola

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  • From kegs@kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) to comp.emulators.apple2 on Thu Nov 11 15:57:47 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.emulators.apple2

    In article <sjnd9u$1o21$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Nicola <nicola@nohost.org> wrote: >On 2021-10-04, Kent Dickey <kegs@provalid.com> wrote:
    One user suggested doing Cmd-I on the KEGSMAC.app icon, and selecting
    "Open in Low Resolution" button. I've not fully confirmed this, but
    it might help.

    That help indeed, thanks!
    Nicola

    The next KEGS release will default to this setting.

    Kent
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  • From Douglas S@duglor@gmail.com to comp.emulators.apple2 on Wed Dec 21 15:02:59 2022
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    On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 1:57:54 PM UTC-8, Kent Dickey wrote:
    In article <sjnd9u$1o21$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Nicola <nic...@nohost.org> wrote:
    On 2021-10-04, Kent Dickey <ke...@provalid.com> wrote:
    One user suggested doing Cmd-I on the KEGSMAC.app icon, and selecting
    "Open in Low Resolution" button. I've not fully confirmed this, but
    it might help.

    That help indeed, thanks!
    Nicola
    The next KEGS release will default to this setting.

    Kent
    Do you have anything to do with the GSplus emulator for retropie? -Doug
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  • From kegs@kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) to comp.emulators.apple2 on Thu Dec 22 21:39:36 2022
    From Newsgroup: comp.emulators.apple2

    In article <8897f8b1-2cbd-4926-a82d-2ec7e51bcdben@googlegroups.com>,
    Douglas S <duglor@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 1:57:54 PM UTC-8, Kent Dickey wrote:
    In article <sjnd9u$1o21$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Nicola
    <nic...@nohost.org> wrote:
    On 2021-10-04, Kent Dickey <ke...@provalid.com> wrote:
    One user suggested doing Cmd-I on the KEGSMAC.app icon, and selecting
    "Open in Low Resolution" button. I've not fully confirmed this, but
    it might help.

    That help indeed, thanks!
    Nicola
    The next KEGS release will default to this setting.

    Kent
    Do you have anything to do with the GSplus emulator for retropie? -Doug

    No. GSPlus is by Dagen Brock, who has made many modifications to KEGS.
    I just googled retropie, so I have now heard of it at least. What are you using retropie for?

    Kent
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  • From Douglas S@duglor@gmail.com to comp.emulators.apple2 on Thu Dec 22 23:57:29 2022
    From Newsgroup: comp.emulators.apple2


    No. GSPlus is by Dagen Brock, who has made many modifications to KEGS.
    I just googled retropie, so I have now heard of it at least. What are you using retropie for?

    Kent
    I use it to emulate a total of 50 systems from Apple 2 and old computers to arcade games and consoles up until 1999/2000.
    Does your emulator play apple 2 gs games... especially Ancient Glory, Sensei, The Gate and Shufflepuck Cafe?? With joystick? Is there a port for it that someone has made for the Retropie?
    Thanks for looking up rCLretropierCY. Barnes and Noble has entire magazines devoted to them in their sores :)
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  • From Douglas S@duglor@gmail.com to comp.emulators.apple2 on Thu Dec 22 23:59:15 2022
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  • From kegs@kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) to comp.emulators.apple2 on Fri Dec 23 19:09:22 2022
    From Newsgroup: comp.emulators.apple2

    In article <dd6d3248-6277-4bda-824b-dfae44030678n@googlegroups.com>,
    Douglas S <duglor@gmail.com> wrote:

    No. GSPlus is by Dagen Brock, who has made many modifications to KEGS.
    I just googled retropie, so I have now heard of it at least. What are you >> using retropie for?

    Kent

    I use it to emulate a total of 50 systems from Apple 2 and old computers
    to arcade games and consoles up until 1999/2000.

    Does your emulator play apple 2 gs games... especially Ancient Glory,
    Sensei, The Gate and Shufflepuck Cafe?? With joystick? Is there a port
    for it that someone has made for the Retropie?
    Thanks for looking up rCLretropierCY. Barnes and Noble has entire
    magazines devoted to them in their sores :)

    I couldn't find instructions on compiling Retropie from source, so the whole project appears to be a "dead end"--grabbing others work, putting a light wrapper around it, and killing the original projects by only distributing binaries. It looks like it's a "fork" of RetroArch, which is it's own type
    of "dead end".

    KEGS runs just about all Apple IIgs games. If you find one that doesn't
    work, I'll fix it. KEGS supports joysticks on Linux and Mac. See http://kegs.sourceforge.net/. KEGS is GPLv3, so it is required to distribute source if you repackage it.

    Kent
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  • From Douglas S@duglor@gmail.com to comp.emulators.apple2 on Wed Jan 11 23:17:57 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.emulators.apple2

    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 11:09:23 AM UTC-8, Kent Dickey wrote:
    In article <dd6d3248-6277-4bda...@googlegroups.com>,
    Douglas S <dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

    No. GSPlus is by Dagen Brock, who has made many modifications to KEGS.
    I just googled retropie, so I have now heard of it at least. What are you >> using retropie for?

    Kent

    I use it to emulate a total of 50 systems from Apple 2 and old computers >to arcade games and consoles up until 1999/2000.

    Does your emulator play apple 2 gs games... especially Ancient Glory, >Sensei, The Gate and Shufflepuck Cafe?? With joystick? Is there a port
    for it that someone has made for the Retropie?
    Thanks for looking up rCLretropierCY. Barnes and Noble has entire >magazines devoted to them in their sores :)
    I couldn't find instructions on compiling Retropie from source, so the whole project appears to be a "dead end"--grabbing others work, putting a light wrapper around it, and killing the original projects by only distributing binaries. It looks like it's a "fork" of RetroArch, which is it's own type of "dead end".

    KEGS runs just about all Apple IIgs games. If you find one that doesn't work, I'll fix it. KEGS supports joysticks on Linux and Mac. See http://kegs.sourceforge.net/. KEGS is GPLv3, so it is required to distribute source if you repackage it.

    Kent
    The last 2 .gsp files i created work and load the games but the joypad does not work. I think i need a keyboard joypad for the first game and a mouse joystick for the 2nd. The first needing to emulate the keypad presses 8,3,4,6 and 5. And Left Alt to fire. The second needing to emulate a mouse with the joypad. Currently i need a keyboard to play the first game and a mouse to play the second and I'd like to use the joypad for both. :)
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  • From Douglas S@duglor@gmail.com to comp.emulators.apple2 on Wed Jan 11 23:18:39 2023
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    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 11:17:58 PM UTC-8, Douglas S wrote:
    On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 11:09:23 AM UTC-8, Kent Dickey wrote:
    In article <dd6d3248-6277-4bda...@googlegroups.com>,
    Douglas S <dug...@gmail.com> wrote:

    No. GSPlus is by Dagen Brock, who has made many modifications to KEGS. >> I just googled retropie, so I have now heard of it at least. What are you
    using retropie for?

    Kent

    I use it to emulate a total of 50 systems from Apple 2 and old computers >to arcade games and consoles up until 1999/2000.

    Does your emulator play apple 2 gs games... especially Ancient Glory, >Sensei, The Gate and Shufflepuck Cafe?? With joystick? Is there a port >for it that someone has made for the Retropie?
    Thanks for looking up rCLretropierCY. Barnes and Noble has entire >magazines devoted to them in their sores :)
    I couldn't find instructions on compiling Retropie from source, so the whole
    project appears to be a "dead end"--grabbing others work, putting a light wrapper around it, and killing the original projects by only distributing binaries. It looks like it's a "fork" of RetroArch, which is it's own type of "dead end".

    KEGS runs just about all Apple IIgs games. If you find one that doesn't work, I'll fix it. KEGS supports joysticks on Linux and Mac. See http://kegs.sourceforge.net/. KEGS is GPLv3, so it is required to distribute
    source if you repackage it.

    Kent
    The last 2 .gsp files i created work and load the games but the joypad does not work. I think i need a keyboard joypad for the first game and a mouse joystick for the 2nd. The first needing to emulate the keypad presses 8,3,4,6 and 5. And Left Alt to fire. The second needing to emulate a mouse with the joypad. Currently i need a keyboard to play the first game and a mouse to play the second and I'd like to use the joypad for both. :)
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