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    From Monty Solomon@monty@roscom.com to comp.dcom.telecom on Thu Mar 20 21:32:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.dcom.telecom

    FCC chairman Brendan Carr starts granting telecom lobbyrCOs wish list
    Rule eliminations make it easier to replace copper networks with wireless.
    The Federal Communications Commission is making it easier for telcos to turn off old copper phone and DSL networks with four changes that relax requirements related to copper shutoffs. FCC Chairman Brendan CarrrCowho is also pushing a "Delete, Delete, Delete" initiative to get rid of as many rules as possiblerCosaid in an announcement today that agency rules have prevented providers from upgrading to faster networks.
    ... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/03/fcc-chairman-brendan-carr-starts-granting-telecom-lobbys-wish-list/
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  • From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to comp.dcom.telecom on Fri Mar 21 12:30:41 2025
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    On 20.03.2025 21:32 Uhr Monty Solomon wrote:

    Rule eliminations make it easier to replace copper networks with
    wireless.

    Are there any areas where starlink or similar services are not
    available or always better?

    Copper lines for analog phone are almost useless for current internet communication, as they are far too slow to even handle basic websites.

    Even slow DSL nowadays goes in that category.
    --
    kind regards
    Marco

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  • From bp@bp@www.zefox.net to comp.dcom.telecom on Fri Mar 21 13:50:58 2025
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    Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
    On 20.03.2025 21:32 Uhr Monty Solomon wrote:

    Rule eliminations make it easier to replace copper networks with
    wireless.

    Are there any areas where starlink or similar services are not
    available or always better?

    Copper lines for analog phone are almost useless for current internet communication, as they are far too slow to even handle basic websites.

    Even slow DSL nowadays goes in that category.

    Depends on actual needs. For some customers cost per time is
    more important than cost per bit.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska

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  • From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to comp.dcom.telecom on Fri Mar 21 15:37:58 2025
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    On 21.03.2025 13:50 Uhr bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

    Depends on actual needs. For some customers cost per time is
    more important than cost per bit.

    I've heard that hundred thousands of people in the US still use dialup,
    but I ask myself what they actually do with that. Even simple web
    browsing is a PITA because even basic stuff like online shops have
    megabytes of data in just one page.

    Satellite has higher latency, but has much higher bandwidth.
    --
    kind regards
    Marco

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  • From Fred Goldstein@fgoldstein@ionary.com to comp.dcom.telecom on Sat Mar 22 14:26:38 2025
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    On 3/21/2025 7:30 AM, Marco Moock wrote:
    On 20.03.2025 21:32 Uhr Monty Solomon wrote:

    Rule eliminations make it easier to replace copper networks with
    wireless.
    Are there any areas where starlink or similar services are not
    available or always better?

    Copper lines for analog phone are almost useless for current internet communication, as they are far too slow to even handle basic websites.

    Even slow DSL nowadays goes in that category.
    The rules changes are primarily about voice telephone services. They
    allow an incumbent local exchange carrier to discontinue standalone
    telephone service under many more circumstances. One change is that they
    may now choose to offer telephone service only as part of a bundle, so
    if you want dial tone, you have to buy their broadband Internet service.
    If you're a senior who doesn't or can't use a computer, for instance, or
    a lower-income person who can't afford the bundle, then you will lose
    you dial tone service. Don't forget that mobile phone service is not
    uniformly available in the US -- it is quite poor in many areas,
    especially mountainous ones, and doesn't work well inside many buildings
    even in urban areas. And many people can't effectively use a smartphone,
    since touch screens require a high level of hand-eye coordination which
    fails if your eyesight is bad or your fingers aren't as pointy or
    precise as, say, St. Steve the Calligrapher's were. Wireline sets are
    thus a necessity for many people.
    --

    Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred "at" interisle.net
    Interisle Consulting Group
    +1 617 795 2701

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/21/2025 7:30 AM, Marco Moock
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    <pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">On 20.03.2025 21:32 Uhr Monty Solomon wrote:

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    <pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">Rule eliminations make it easier to replace copper networks with
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    Are there any areas where starlink or similar services are not
    available or always better?

    Copper lines for analog phone are almost useless for current internet communication, as they are far too slow to even handle basic websites.

    Even slow DSL nowadays goes in that category.
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    The rules changes are primarily about voice telephone services. They
    allow an incumbent local exchange carrier to discontinue standalone
    telephone service under many more circumstances. One change is that
    they may now choose to offer telephone service only as part of a
    bundle, so if you want dial tone, you have to buy their broadband
    Internet service. If you're a senior who doesn't or can't use a
    computer, for instance, or a lower-income person who can't afford
    the bundle, then you will lose you dial tone service. Don't forget
    that mobile phone service is not uniformly available in the US -- it
    is quite poor in many areas, especially mountainous ones, and
    doesn't work well inside many buildings even in urban areas. And
    many people can't effectively use a smartphone, since touch screens
    require a high level of hand-eye coordination which fails if your
    eyesight is bad or your fingers aren't as pointy or precise as, say,
    St. Steve the Calligrapher's were. Wireline sets are thus a
    necessity for many people.<br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--

    Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred "at" interisle.net
    Interisle Consulting Group
    +1 617 795 2701</pre>
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