From Newsgroup: comp.ai

?Is it just me or is "vibe coding" basically just high-level rubber
ducking that actually types back? I see people acting like they
discovered a new dimension of engineering because they can prompt a Claude-
3 or whatever to spit out a React component without knowing what a hook
is. ?The "vibe" is fine until the state management goes recursive and
you have no idea why because you never learned the stack. It's just black-
box orchestration. ?Are we actually coding or just "vibing" our way into
a massive technical debt bubble?
--




----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west- 2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

--- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.ai

Verily, in article <10podng$3648e$1@dont-email.me>, did oguzkaanocal3169 @hotmail.com deliver unto us this message:

?Is it just me or is "vibe coding" basically just high-level rubber
ducking that actually types back? I see people acting like they
discovered a new dimension of engineering because they can prompt a Claude-
3 or whatever to spit out a React component without knowing what a hook
is. ?The "vibe" is fine until the state management goes recursive and
you have no idea why because you never learned the stack. It's just black- box orchestration. ?Are we actually coding or just "vibing" our way into
a massive technical debt bubble?

I'm still waiting for one of these "vibe coded" apps to earn five bucks.

I don't like the future. We had such high hopes for it, building back in
the 90s, but the corporations took over and ruined everything, and now
the majority of users are bots.
--
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos

--- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.ai

On 3/22/2026 9:05 AM, Oguz Kaan Ocal wrote:

?Is it just me or is "vibe coding" basically just high-level rubber
ducking that actually types back? I see people acting like they
discovered a new dimension of engineering because they can prompt a Claude-
3 or whatever to spit out a React component without knowing what a hook
is. ?The "vibe" is fine until the state management goes recursive and
you have no idea why because you never learned the stack. It's just black- box orchestration. ?Are we actually coding or just "vibing" our way into
a massive technical debt bubble?
--

----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west- 2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

"Tech Debt" is what I think of every time I hear vibe coding. You just
get a pile of spaghetti. Except it's worse, because unlike a human, the
AI is going to just make up whatever post-hoc explanation is
statistically most-likely for whatever crazy stuff it did.

It is pretty good at spitting out a workable POC (provided it's a
relatively simple thing you're trying to do). So it's nice speculatively trying those small side ideas that you want to try, but just don't have
the bandwidth to do.

I'd never want to deploy one of those though; blindly trusting code that
I never looked at, from an entity that is known to produce absolutely
dogshit code, is just too sketchy for me. Once you get the POC done and
you see what worked (or didn't), then you open your IDE and actually
write code that you're not ashamed of.

--- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.ai

Verily, in article <10pq87r$3pqkm$1@dont-email.me>, did FrigidFoxtrot@protonmail.com deliver unto us this message:

"Tech Debt" is what I think of every time I hear vibe coding. You just
get a pile of spaghetti. Except it's worse, because unlike a human, the
AI is going to just make up whatever post-hoc explanation is
statistically most-likely for whatever crazy stuff it did.

They do say the latest Claude Code is much better and often actually
makes sense. These are people who know what they're doing, though, and so-called vibe coders usually don't.
--
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos

--- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.ai

On 23/03/2026 11:38, FrigidFoxtrot wrote:

It is pretty good at spitting out a workable POC

Pile Of Code?
--
Tristan Wibberley

The message body is Copyright (C) 2026 Tristan Wibberley except
citations and quotations noted. All Rights Reserved except that you may,
of course, cite it academically giving credit to me, distribute it
verbatim as part of a usenet system or its archives, and use it to
promote my greatness and general superiority without misrepresentation
of my opinions other than my opinion of my greatness and general
superiority which you _may_ misrepresent. You definitely MAY NOT train
any production AI system with it but you may train experimental AI that
will only be used for evaluation of the AI methods it implements.

--- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.ai

The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

Verily, in article <10pq87r$3pqkm$1@dont-email.me>, did FrigidFoxtrot@protonmail.com deliver unto us this message:

"Tech Debt" is what I think of every time I hear vibe coding. You
just
get a pile of spaghetti. Except it's worse, because unlike a human,
the
AI is going to just make up whatever post-hoc explanation is
statistically most-likely for whatever crazy stuff it did.

They do say the latest Claude Code is much better and often actually
makes sense. These are people who know what they're doing, though, and so-called vibe coders usually don't.

I freely admit that I don't know what I'm doing, even now, but "vibe
coding" has given me quite a bit. I'm a blind person using an Android
phone. I got a taste of Emacs years ago, so I had Gemini CLI make Termux
a bit more accessible to me as far as its app. I then had Gemini CLI,
inside Termux, hook up Emacspeak (Emacs screen reading system). And it's
been uphill (in the best way) ever since. Now, with a Bluetooth
keyboard, my phone is very close to being the only computer I need.
(besides heavy browsing and games).

Also, the AI had to polyfill some TCLX stuff on top of TCL to get
Emacspeak working with some speech servers, get those speech engines,
like DecTalk, working in the Termux environment, so it wasn't a simple
make && make install.

--- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2

From Newsgroup: comp.ai

FrigidFoxtrot <FrigidFoxtrot@protonmail.com> writes:

I'd never want to deploy one of those though; blindly trusting code
that I never looked at.

Did you look at Thunderbird code?

--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2