• digital TV bitrate monitoring websites?

    From Falscher Bruce@bruce56@topmail.co.nz to aus.tv on Mon Nov 1 03:35:35 2021
    From Newsgroup: aus.tv

    I stumbled across this one: https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mux=&live=36&lang=en&liste=2
    It seems suss, the HD channels are almost the same as the others.
    It looks like they simply divided the total bandwidth by the number of digital channels. Does anybody actually track what bitrates are?
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From not@not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) to aus.tv on Mon Nov 1 22:14:44 2021
    From Newsgroup: aus.tv

    Falscher Bruce <bruce56@topmail.co.nz> wrote:
    I stumbled across this one: https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mux=&live=36&lang=en&liste=2
    It seems suss, the HD channels are almost the same as the others.

    Comparing ABC and SBS with their HD equivalents there seems to be
    an average 1Mb/s difference.

    It looks like they simply divided the total bandwidth by the
    number of digital channels.

    What do you make of the graphs then? Are you sure you weren't
    looking at the audio bitrates, they seem to be the same (though
    ABC use higher bitrate audio than SBS for some reason)?

    Assuming you weren't looking at the audio bitrate figures, for
    video SD digital TV uses MEPG2 whereas HD uses MPEG4. MPEG2
    requires a less powerful processor to decode, but is quite
    bandwidth inefficient compared to the newer MPEG4 standard. That's
    why MPEG2 is these days rarely used except for applications like
    DVDs and SD TV where it's limited to the capabilities of the
    specs and software of old dedicated video player devices.

    So that's why the bitrate difference isn't so great compared to the
    resolution difference between SD and HD, even assuming both are
    maintained at equivalent quality (not over-compressed, resulting in
    noticable compression artifacts).
    --
    __ __
    #_ < |\| |< _#
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Sylvia Else@sylvia@email.invalid to aus.tv on Tue Nov 2 11:56:44 2021
    From Newsgroup: aus.tv

    On 01-Nov-21 9:35 pm, Falscher Bruce wrote:
    I stumbled across this one: https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mux=&live=36&lang=en&liste=2
    It seems suss, the HD channels are almost the same as the others.
    It looks like they simply divided the total bandwidth by the number of digital channels. Does anybody actually track what bitrates are?


    HD is essentially dead in Australia, and has been for a long time. Free
    to air TV (FTA) generally has been on a death spiral which has just been accelerated by Covid-19 as it pushed people to sample the delights of
    the streaming services. It's probably been more than a year since I
    watched anything other than the news on FTA. It won't be long before the bandwidth is applied to something more useful.

    Sylvia.
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Computer Nerd Kev@not@telling.you.invalid to aus.tv on Tue Nov 2 05:43:00 2021
    From Newsgroup: aus.tv

    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:

    HD is essentially dead in Australia, and has been for a long time. Free
    to air TV (FTA) generally has been on a death spiral which has just been accelerated by Covid-19 as it pushed people to sample the delights of
    the streaming services. It's probably been more than a year since I
    watched anything other than the news on FTA. It won't be long before the bandwidth is applied to something more useful.

    Well I damn well hope not! It ain't dead on my TV.
    --
    __ __
    #_ < |\| |< _#
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.tv on Mon Nov 22 08:53:11 2021
    From Newsgroup: aus.tv

    On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 05:43:00 -0000 (UTC), Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:

    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:

    HD is essentially dead in Australia, and has been for a long time. Free
    to air TV (FTA) generally has been on a death spiral which has just been
    accelerated by Covid-19 as it pushed people to sample the delights of
    the streaming services. It's probably been more than a year since I
    watched anything other than the news on FTA. It won't be long before the
    bandwidth is applied to something more useful.

    Well I damn well hope not! It ain't dead on my TV.

    Nor mine. There's still value in it with a good recorder.
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From keithr0@user@account.invalid to aus.tv on Mon Nov 22 09:49:23 2021
    From Newsgroup: aus.tv

    On 22/11/2021 7:53 am, Peter Jason wrote:
    On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 05:43:00 -0000 (UTC), Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:

    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:

    HD is essentially dead in Australia, and has been for a long time. Free
    to air TV (FTA) generally has been on a death spiral which has just been >>> accelerated by Covid-19 as it pushed people to sample the delights of
    the streaming services. It's probably been more than a year since I
    watched anything other than the news on FTA. It won't be long before the >>> bandwidth is applied to something more useful.

    Well I damn well hope not! It ain't dead on my TV.

    Nor mine. There's still value in it with a good recorder.

    This article points out that the streaming world is fracturing, and
    where you just needed to pay for one service to get just about anything
    now you're needing to subscribe to more and more. Then, of course,
    watching OTA is anonymous, the streaming services are collecting data on
    what you watch to sell to whoever.

    https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/11/star-trek-discovery-is-tearing-the-streaming-world-apart/
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2