• iView

    From keithr0@user@account.invalid to aus.tv on Mon May 17 17:07:28 2021
    From Newsgroup: aus.tv

    Looks like the ABC is going to require that you have an account before
    you can use iView. I wonder what they are going to do with the details
    that you'll need to enter.
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  • From not@not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) to aus.tv on Tue May 18 00:22:27 2021
    From Newsgroup: aus.tv

    keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
    Looks like the ABC is going to require that you have an account before
    you can use iView. I wonder what they are going to do with the details
    that you'll need to enter.

    In short, they'll pass it on to all and sundry just like a
    commercial organisation would. With the usual assurances that
    they won't be selling your info directly, though they are
    apparantly using various third-party services to promote and sell
    their paid products. See below.

    This might prevent youtube-dl from working (when it actually does,
    which has been rare in my limited experience), which is a shame.
    I really don't use iView myself at all though anyway, only the
    direct video download URLs which can still be found in the page
    source code at the homepages for shows like 4 Corners and Foreign Correspondent. Even then, only if I missed the TV broadcast
    (entertainment shows usually get repeated to death on TV anyway).

    It'll annoy me a lot if those shows switch to only hosting videos
    on iView though.



    https://help.abc.net.au/hc/en-us/articles/360001154976-ABC-Privacy-Policy

    "Information that is personally identifiable to the ABC**

    If you have registered for an ABC Account, or subscribed to an ABC
    newsletter, we may combine information from your registration with
    the information we collect about your use of our digital services,
    and other information you provide to us. This is done in order to
    analyse how you and other people use our digital services in detail
    and, where you have opted to receive such communications, to send
    you email and other communications that might be of interest to
    you. This information may also be used to provide personalised
    services or content suggestions based on your previous use of our
    digital services. The combined information may include information
    that is collected about your use of our digital services while you
    are not signed in, and information that was collected before you
    registered or signed in. Where the combined information can be used
    to identify you, we may use and disclose it in accordance with this
    Privacy Policy."

    "1.3 Disclosure of personal information

    We may disclose your personal information that we collect to our:

    *technology service providers, including, internet service
    providers, app service providers, cloud hosting service
    providers, software suppliers, and maintenance and support
    service providers and security services on a confidential
    basis so that they can provide services to us

    *ABC online store fulfilment partners and delivery service
    providers

    *marketing and promotions service providers; and
    analytics service providers.

    As described above in the section on \u201cThird party cookies,
    beacons and other technologies\u201d, we may also allow some of our
    marketing and promotions service providers, as well as our
    analytics and ratings service providers, to collect information
    about your use of ABC digital services along with identifiers for
    your device or browser.

    We may separately disclose the information we collect about your
    use of ABC digital services to third parties along with those same identifiers. This includes disclosure to marketing and promotions
    service providers, via a technology service provider called
    Tealium, in order to serve you with more personalised and relevant
    content. We may also disclose this information to some of our other
    technology service providers.

    Some third parties, such as Google and Facebook, may be able to
    match information about your use of our digital services with
    personal information they already have about you. The information
    we disclose to Facebook, via Tealium, may also show them your email
    address but only if it is already used for an account on their site.

    These third parties may be located in Australia or outside
    Australia, including but not limited to New Zealand, Singapore, the
    UK, the Netherlands, Ireland, Israel, India, Canada and the USA.

    The ABC has a statutory obligation to take contractual measures to
    ensure that its contracted service providers do not do an act or
    engage in a practice that would breach an Australian Privacy
    Principle if done or engaged in by the ABC.

    The ABC will not sell or receive payment for licensing or
    disclosing your personal information.

    The ABC may include links to third party content on its website and
    in other electronic communications. The ABC does not have any
    control over the privacy practices of those third parties. Please
    check the website of each relevant third party for details of their
    privacy policies. The ABC does not control who links to the
    ABC\u2019s site."
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  • From keithr0@user@account.invalid to aus.tv on Tue May 18 16:14:47 2021
    From Newsgroup: aus.tv

    On 18/05/2021 10:22 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
    Looks like the ABC is going to require that you have an account before
    you can use iView. I wonder what they are going to do with the details
    that you'll need to enter.

    In short, they'll pass it on to all and sundry just like a
    commercial organisation would. With the usual assurances that
    they won't be selling your info directly, though they are
    apparantly using various third-party services to promote and sell
    their paid products. See below.

    This might prevent youtube-dl from working (when it actually does,
    which has been rare in my limited experience), which is a shame.
    I really don't use iView myself at all though anyway, only the
    direct video download URLs which can still be found in the page
    source code at the homepages for shows like 4 Corners and Foreign Correspondent. Even then, only if I missed the TV broadcast
    (entertainment shows usually get repeated to death on TV anyway).

    It'll annoy me a lot if those shows switch to only hosting videos
    on iView though.



    https://help.abc.net.au/hc/en-us/articles/360001154976-ABC-Privacy-Policy

    "Information that is personally identifiable to the ABC**

    If you have registered for an ABC Account, or subscribed to an ABC newsletter, we may combine information from your registration with
    the information we collect about your use of our digital services,
    and other information you provide to us. This is done in order to
    analyse how you and other people use our digital services in detail
    and, where you have opted to receive such communications, to send
    you email and other communications that might be of interest to
    you. This information may also be used to provide personalised
    services or content suggestions based on your previous use of our
    digital services. The combined information may include information
    that is collected about your use of our digital services while you
    are not signed in, and information that was collected before you
    registered or signed in. Where the combined information can be used
    to identify you, we may use and disclose it in accordance with this
    Privacy Policy."

    "1.3 Disclosure of personal information

    We may disclose your personal information that we collect to our:

    *technology service providers, including, internet service
    providers, app service providers, cloud hosting service
    providers, software suppliers, and maintenance and support
    service providers and security services on a confidential
    basis so that they can provide services to us

    *ABC online store fulfilment partners and delivery service
    providers

    *marketing and promotions service providers; and
    analytics service providers.

    As described above in the section on \u201cThird party cookies,
    beacons and other technologies\u201d, we may also allow some of our
    marketing and promotions service providers, as well as our
    analytics and ratings service providers, to collect information
    about your use of ABC digital services along with identifiers for
    your device or browser.

    We may separately disclose the information we collect about your
    use of ABC digital services to third parties along with those same identifiers. This includes disclosure to marketing and promotions
    service providers, via a technology service provider called
    Tealium, in order to serve you with more personalised and relevant
    content. We may also disclose this information to some of our other technology service providers.

    Some third parties, such as Google and Facebook, may be able to
    match information about your use of our digital services with
    personal information they already have about you. The information
    we disclose to Facebook, via Tealium, may also show them your email
    address but only if it is already used for an account on their site.

    These third parties may be located in Australia or outside
    Australia, including but not limited to New Zealand, Singapore, the
    UK, the Netherlands, Ireland, Israel, India, Canada and the USA.

    The ABC has a statutory obligation to take contractual measures to
    ensure that its contracted service providers do not do an act or
    engage in a practice that would breach an Australian Privacy
    Principle if done or engaged in by the ABC.

    The ABC will not sell or receive payment for licensing or
    disclosing your personal information.

    The ABC may include links to third party content on its website and
    in other electronic communications. The ABC does not have any
    control over the privacy practices of those third parties. Please
    check the website of each relevant third party for details of their
    privacy policies. The ABC does not control who links to the
    ABC\u2019s site."

    Watching TV on air is anonymous, watching it on the internet is not.
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