Hello, I would like to know when it is safer to self-detrain a train than to remain on board when there is no guard or driver available to ask for permission following a derailment or collision? By that I mean a scenario which has left the driver incapacitated and the guard is either incapacitated or no guard is present on board.Unless the train is on fire and causing imminent danger to your person its always better to stay put and wait for emergency services to assist. Even if the driver wasn't able to raise an alarm, track occupancy is monitored - alarms will be raised relatively quickly about the stopped train.
On Monday, 28 October 2019 09:26:48 UTC+11, Marcus Potter wrote:
Hello, I would like to know when it is safer to self-detrain a
train than to remain on board when there is no guard or driver
available to ask for permission following a derailment or
collision? By that I mean a scenario which has left the driver
incapacitated and the guard is either incapacitated or no guard is
present on board.
Unless the train is on fire and causing imminent danger to your
person its always better to stay put and wait for emergency services
to assist. Even if the driver wasn't able to raise an alarm, track
occupancy is monitored - alarms will be raised relatively quickly
about the stopped train.
If you hop out you expose your self to being hit by other trains that
have not yet gotten the emergency stop radio call yet, fallen but
still live power lines (if a derailment/collision), etc, etc. Even
ignoring all that railway track is full of trip hazards.
On 28/10/2019 1:08 pm, Matthew Geier wrote:
On Monday, 28 October 2019 09:26:48 UTC+11, Marcus Potter wrote:
Hello, I would like to know when it is safer to self-detrain a train
than to remain on board when there is no guard or driver available to
ask for permission following a derailment or collision? By that I mean
a scenario which has left the driver incapacitated and the guard is
either incapacitated or no guard is present on board.
Unless the train is on fire and causing imminent danger to your person
its always better to stay put and wait for emergency services to
assist. Even if the driver wasn't able to raise an alarm, track
occupancy is monitored - alarms will be raised relatively quickly about
the stopped train.
It was quite a long time before the emergency services arrived at
Waterfall. History is full of case where passengers died when one train crashed in the wreckage of another.
If a train is on its side, then the track will no longer show as being occupied, and the train may also be fouling an adjacent line, while not showing that as occupied either.
One would hope that control would notice that a train had gone missing,
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 13:58:20 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 28/10/2019 1:08 pm, Matthew Geier wrote:
On Monday, 28 October 2019 09:26:48 UTC+11, Marcus Potter wrote:
Hello, I would like to know when it is safer to self-detrain a train
than to remain on board when there is no guard or driver available to
ask for permission following a derailment or collision? By that I mean >>>> a scenario which has left the driver incapacitated and the guard is
either incapacitated or no guard is present on board.
Unless the train is on fire and causing imminent danger to your person
its always better to stay put and wait for emergency services to
assist. Even if the driver wasn't able to raise an alarm, track
occupancy is monitored - alarms will be raised relatively quickly about
the stopped train.
It was quite a long time before the emergency services arrived at
Waterfall. History is full of case where passengers died when one train
crashed in the wreckage of another.
If a train is on its side, then the track will no longer show as being
occupied, and the train may also be fouling an adjacent line, while not
showing that as occupied either.
One would hope that control would notice that a train had gone missing,
somewhere on the internet is a picture of a the Broadmedow Control Room.
Do you honestly thng some muggins going to notice one little light
changing across a very large room?
On 29/10/2019 12:52 am, news18 wrote:
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 13:58:20 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote:Depends whether the system highlights a missing train.
On 28/10/2019 1:08 pm, Matthew Geier wrote:
On Monday, 28 October 2019 09:26:48 UTC+11, Marcus Potter wrote:
Hello, I would like to know when it is safer to self-detrain a train >>>>> than to remain on board when there is no guard or driver available
to ask for permission following a derailment or collision? By that I >>>>> mean a scenario which has left the driver incapacitated and the
guard is either incapacitated or no guard is present on board.
Unless the train is on fire and causing imminent danger to your
person its always better to stay put and wait for emergency services
to assist. Even if the driver wasn't able to raise an alarm, track
occupancy is monitored - alarms will be raised relatively quickly
about the stopped train.
It was quite a long time before the emergency services arrived at
Waterfall. History is full of case where passengers died when one
train crashed in the wreckage of another.
If a train is on its side, then the track will no longer show as being
occupied, and the train may also be fouling an adjacent line, while
not showing that as occupied either.
One would hope that control would notice that a train had gone
missing,
somewhere on the internet is a picture of a the Broadmedow Control
Room.
Do you honestly thng some muggins going to notice one little light
changing across a very large room?
Sylvia.
I've been on a train (charter) that made an unscheduled stop to allow some photographs at a disused platform.
Within minutes, the driver got a radio call asking 'why are you over time in section ?'. (To which he answered 'I lost the air, all OK now').
I'm sure the reaction in the control room was 'yea, right, you stopped at xxx didn't you'.
On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 6:34:12 AM UTC, Matthew Geier wrote:
I've been on a train (charter) that made an unscheduled stop to allow
some photographs at a disused platform.
Within minutes, the driver got a radio call asking 'why are you over
time in section ?'. (To which he answered 'I lost the air, all OK
now').
I'm sure the reaction in the control room was 'yea, right, you stopped
at xxx didn't you'.
What does "lost the air" mean?
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