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Does anyone have access to Australian Standard AS 7522.3, published by
the Rail Industry Safety and Standards Board?

I could buy a copy, but it costs almost $200. I'm only interested in
what it has to say about emergency egress for passengers.

Sylvia.
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In <hbkh1qFbil8U1@mid.individual.net>, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> writes:

Does anyone have access to Australian Standard AS 7522.3, published by
the Rail Industry Safety and Standards Board?

I could buy a copy, but it costs almost $200. I'm only interested in
what it has to say about emergency egress for passengers.

Sylvia.

My experience with Australian Standards confirms that school teachers of English
are illiterate and have been for a long time. Like other documents we deal with
every day, Australian Standards are littered with omissions, inconsistencies and ambiguities. Now that there is no longer a body of knowledge in a permanent
public service, standards committees are populated by unskilled and uncritical people.

The State Library of NSW has an unordered collection of them, but they have no Dewey numbers and the casual staff with no corporate memory will deny knowledge of them.


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On 26/02/2020 12:22 pm, johnsuth@nospam.com.au wrote:

In <hbkh1qFbil8U1@mid.individual.net>, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> writes:

Does anyone have access to Australian Standard AS 7522.3, published by
the Rail Industry Safety and Standards Board?

I could buy a copy, but it costs almost $200. I'm only interested in
what it has to say about emergency egress for passengers.

Sylvia.

My experience with Australian Standards confirms that school teachers of English
are illiterate and have been for a long time. Like other documents we deal with
every day, Australian Standards are littered with omissions, inconsistencies and ambiguities. Now that there is no longer a body of knowledge in a permanent
public service, standards committees are populated by unskilled and uncritical
people.

The State Library of NSW has an unordered collection of them, but they have no
Dewey numbers and the casual staff with no corporate memory will deny knowledge
of them.

The State Libraries are in any case now only able to offer access to pre
2000 standards. The arrangement they had with Standards Australia
expired, and negotiations for a renewal failed. Standards Australia is committed to making standards available at no cost for non-commercial
use by 2023, which probably means the end of 2023. Quite how that date
was arrived at is unclear.

However, in this case it doesn't help anyway, because AS 7522.3 is an
RISSB standard, not a Standards Australia standard.

Standards Australia is a not-for-profit entity, but at the end of June
2018 (the last year for which numbers have been published) was sitting
on in excess of $266 million in financial assets, which are presumably
being kept for a rainy day, since there is no way for SA to distribute
its profits to members. I've raised this with the relevant Australian regulator, and I fully expect nothing to come of it.

Sylvia.
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On Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:08:28 UTC+11, Sylvia Else wrote:

Does anyone have access to Australian Standard AS 7522.3, published by
the Rail Industry Safety and Standards Board?

I could buy a copy, but it costs almost $200. I'm only interested in
what it has to say about emergency egress for passengers.

It doesn't matter what the standard says anyway. Unless specifically referenced in legislation as mandatory, the standard is merely a recommendation of 'best practice'. The operator has to meet legislated requirements. The standards just help you get there.
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On 3/03/2020 3:21 pm, Matthew Geier wrote:

On Tuesday, 25 February 2020 23:08:28 UTC+11, Sylvia Else wrote:

Does anyone have access to Australian Standard AS 7522.3, published by
the Rail Industry Safety and Standards Board?

I could buy a copy, but it costs almost $200. I'm only interested in
what it has to say about emergency egress for passengers.

It doesn't matter what the standard says anyway. Unless specifically referenced in legislation as mandatory, the standard is merely a recommendation of 'best practice'. The operator has to meet legislated requirements. The standards just help you get there.

In the particular case, the operator, NSW Trains, purports to comply
with the standard. I'm interested in whether they actually do.

Sylvia.
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My corporate subscription to Standards Australia doesn't include this standard, possibly because it's actually a RISSB standard and not a standard compiled by Standards Australia.

RISSB only allows paid up members to download the standard.

These standards cost a lot of time and money to create and are often not government funded, so the bodies that create them want money for the publications to cover the costs incurred creating them.
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