ABC reporting this evening of the XPT derailment in Wallan (Vic) resulting in two fatalities.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-20/two-dead-in-train-derailment-melbourne-wallan/11986230
Two people die after passenger train derails near Wallan north of Melbourne Updated 19 minutes ago
Key points:
Two people have died after the Sydney to Melbourne XPT service derailed with about 160 on board
Five passenger cars derailed, with the train locomotive on its side
A passenger said there was a sudden stop and it was a "scary experience"
A Transport for NSW spokesperson confirmed the train had come off the rails near the town of Wallan, 45 kilometres north of the Victorian capital.
The train was the Sydney to Melbourne XPT service with around 160 passengers on board.
Five passenger cars were derailed, with the locomotive turned on its side.
A Country Fire Authority (CFA) spokesman said there were signs of significant damage to the train tracks and three medical helicopters were at the scene.
A train carriage lies on its side, a man stands nearby looking down the tracks. Emergency services were called about 7:45pm.
An Ambulance Victoria spokesperson said paramedics were treating a number of people after the incident and one person was being airlifted to Melbourne.
One person was taken to the Royal Melbourne Hospital in a stable condition, while eight people were taken to the Northern Hospital with minor injuries.
Three were admitted to Kilmore Hospital with minor injuries.
'People started moving around, luggage went flying'
Dr Scott Rickard was in the second carriage of the train and said it was a scary experience.
"All of sudden, we just seemed to be slowing to a very fast stop," she said.
"Stuff flew off our tables, people started moving around, luggage went flying, that kind of thing.
"Our carriage finished on an angle."
A train lies on its side, a man with his hands on his hips looks at the carriage on its side.
Dr Rickard said she was stuck on the train for about 10 minutes after it derailed.
"There were people lying all over the place and we had to kind of make sure people weren't injured," she said.
She said people in her carriage only appeared to suffer minor injuries.
"Most of the carriage was fine rCo there were a lot of older people on the carriage so that was really reassuring to see that they've come out fine."
"It was maybe about 10 minutes before we got off but that was because we were just being very careful and making sure everybody was safe."
On 20/02/2020 11:50 pm, rgth17@yahoo.com.au wrote:https://is.gd/jRIj5T
ABC reporting this evening of the XPT derailment in Wallan (Vic) resulting in two fatalities.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-20/two-dead-in-train-derailment-melbourne-wallan/11986230
Probably would have been prevented if ATP had been installed.
Sylvia.
On 20/02/2020 11:50 pm, rgth17@yahoo.com.au wrote:
ABC reporting this evening of the XPT derailment in Wallan (Vic) resulting in two fatalities.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-20/two-dead-in-train-derailment-melbourne-wallan/11986230
Two people die after passenger train derails near Wallan north of Melbourne >> Updated 19 minutes ago
Key points:
Two people have died after the Sydney to Melbourne XPT service derailed with about 160 on board
Five passenger cars derailed, with the train locomotive on its side
A passenger said there was a sudden stop and it was a "scary experience"
A Transport for NSW spokesperson confirmed the train had come off the rails near the town of Wallan, 45 kilometres north of the Victorian capital.
The train was the Sydney to Melbourne XPT service with around 160 passengers on board.
Five passenger cars were derailed, with the locomotive turned on its side. >>
A Country Fire Authority (CFA) spokesman said there were signs of significant damage to the train tracks and three medical helicopters were at the scene.
A train carriage lies on its side, a man stands nearby looking down the tracks. Emergency services were called about 7:45pm.
An Ambulance Victoria spokesperson said paramedics were treating a number of people after the incident and one person was being airlifted to Melbourne.
One person was taken to the Royal Melbourne Hospital in a stable condition, while eight people were taken to the Northern Hospital with minor injuries.
Three were admitted to Kilmore Hospital with minor injuries.
'People started moving around, luggage went flying'
Dr Scott Rickard was in the second carriage of the train and said it was a scary experience.
"All of sudden, we just seemed to be slowing to a very fast stop," she said. >>
"Stuff flew off our tables, people started moving around, luggage went flying, that kind of thing.
"Our carriage finished on an angle."
A train lies on its side, a man with his hands on his hips looks at the carriage on its side.
Dr Rickard said she was stuck on the train for about 10 minutes after it derailed.
"There were people lying all over the place and we had to kind of make sure people weren't injured," she said.
She said people in her carriage only appeared to suffer minor injuries.
"Most of the carriage was fine rCo there were a lot of older people on the carriage so that was really reassuring to see that they've come out fine."
"It was maybe about 10 minutes before we got off but that was because we were just being very careful and making sure everybody was safe."
Probably would have been prevented if ATP had been installed.
Sylvia.
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:41:55 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:
On 20/02/2020 11:50 pm, rgth17@yahoo.com.au wrote:https://is.gd/jRIj5T
ABC reporting this evening of the XPT derailment in Wallan (Vic)
resulting in two fatalities.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-20/two-dead-in-train-derailment- melbourne-wallan/11986230
Probably would have been prevented if ATP had been installed.
Sylvia.
Very sad. the Sydney to Melbourne track badly needs money spent on it
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 18:21:26 +1100, Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:41:55 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:
On 20/02/2020 11:50 pm, rgth17@yahoo.com.au wrote:https://is.gd/jRIj5T
ABC reporting this evening of the XPT derailment in Wallan (Vic)
resulting in two fatalities.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-20/two-dead-in-train-derailment- >melbourne-wallan/11986230
Probably would have been prevented if ATP had been installed.
Sylvia.
Very sad. the Sydney to Melbourne track badly needs money spent on it
Well, you voted for the mob that privatised it all and didn't start
kicking arse when it was obvious that they were going to run it all down.
Did broken/missing fishplate bolts allow the rail to deflect into the
path of a wheel?
It is going to be interesting to see who they try to blme for this one.
ARTC will do everything they can to deflect from their poor management.
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:44:15 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>
wrote:
Did broken/missing fishplate bolts allow the rail to deflect into the
path of a wheel?
It is going to be interesting to see who they try to blme for this one.
ARTC will do everything they can to deflect from their poor management.
"they" have already blamed the train driver instead of Federal
governments refusal to upgrade the Melbourne/Sydney track making it
safe. https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-news-investigation-of-xpt-derailment-continues/5563edfe-449b-48d6-8326-506fb9f9e1b1
https://is.gd/muTBx0
On 22/02/2020 8:46 pm, Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:44:15 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>
wrote:
Did broken/missing fishplate bolts allow the rail to deflect into the
path of a wheel?
It is going to be interesting to see who they try to blme for this one.
ARTC will do everything they can to deflect from their poor management.
"they" have already blamed the train driver instead of Federal
governments refusal to upgrade the Melbourne/Sydney track making it
safe.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-news-investigation-of-xpt-derailment-continues/5563edfe-449b-48d6-8326-506fb9f9e1b1
https://is.gd/muTBx0
Who are "they"?
The ATSB doesn't attribute blame, and it's much to early in the >investigation for anyone else to either.
Sylvia.
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 13:18:46 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:
On 22/02/2020 8:46 pm, Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:44:15 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>
wrote:
"they" have already blamed the train driver instead of Federal
Did broken/missing fishplate bolts allow the rail to deflect into the >>>>> path of a wheel?
It is going to be interesting to see who they try to blme for this one. >>>> ARTC will do everything they can to deflect from their poor management. >>>
governments refusal to upgrade the Melbourne/Sydney track making it
safe.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-news-investigation-of-xpt-derailment-continues/5563edfe-449b-48d6-8326-506fb9f9e1b1
https://is.gd/muTBx0
Who are "they"?
The ATSB doesn't attribute blame, and it's much to early in the
investigation for anyone else to either.
Sylvia.
"They" are "Australian Rail Track Corporation" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Rail_Track_Corporation
https://is.gd/SjAc42
he Australian Rail Track Corporation (ARTC) is a Government of
Australia owned statutory corporation, established in July 1998, that
manages most of Australia's interstate rail network.[
On 23/02/2020 2:48 pm, Petzl wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 13:18:46 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:
On 22/02/2020 8:46 pm, Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:44:15 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>
wrote:
"they" have already blamed the train driver instead of Federal
Did broken/missing fishplate bolts allow the rail to deflect into the >>>>>> path of a wheel?
It is going to be interesting to see who they try to blme for this one. >>>>> ARTC will do everything they can to deflect from their poor management. >>>>
governments refusal to upgrade the Melbourne/Sydney track making it
safe.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-news-investigation-of-xpt-derailment-continues/5563edfe-449b-48d6-8326-506fb9f9e1b1
https://is.gd/muTBx0
Who are "they"?
The ATSB doesn't attribute blame, and it's much to early in the
investigation for anyone else to either.
Sylvia.
"They" are "Australian Rail Track Corporation"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Rail_Track_Corporation
https://is.gd/SjAc42
he Australian Rail Track Corporation (ARTC) is a Government of
Australia owned statutory corporation, established in July 1998, that
manages most of Australia's interstate rail network.[
From the article you cited:
"Asked about the claims, the Australian Rail Track Corporation (ARTC)
said it was unable to provide comment while the Australian Transport
Safety Bureau and the Office of the National Rail Safety Regulator
conduct their investigations."
Which is the proper position for them to take.
If, as seems possible based on what we've heard so far, the train
derailed at points that were diverting it onto an adjacent track, then
the train was certainly going too fast for that to work, but there are
many possible reasons for that, most of which are not attributable to
the driver.
Sylvia.
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:44:15 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>
wrote:
Did broken/missing fishplate bolts allow the rail to deflect into the
path of a wheel?
It is going to be interesting to see who they try to blme for this one. >>ARTC will do everything they can to deflect from their poor management.
"they" have already blamed the train driver instead of Federal
governments refusal to upgrade the Melbourne/Sydney track making it
safe.
Called spin twisting and turning You yourself have posted here about the neglect of Australian track works.
Any main track that cannot support 160 km/h needs shutting down.
On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 20:46:32 +1100, Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:44:15 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>
wrote:
Did broken/missing fishplate bolts allow the rail to deflect into the
path of a wheel?
It is going to be interesting to see who they try to blme for this one. >>>ARTC will do everything they can to deflect from their poor management.
"they" have already blamed the train driver instead of Federal
governments refusal to upgrade the Melbourne/Sydney track making it
safe.
It is not the ederal governments job to upgrade the line.AFIK ARTC has a >lease that requires them to maintain the line, They failed to do so.
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 17:41:37 +1100, Petzl wrote:
Called spin twisting and turning You yourself have posted here about the
neglect of Australian track works.
Any main track that cannot support 160 km/h needs shutting down.
In NSW, they have done that for all passenger routes, except Sydney to >Mebourne. The "passenger services" now run on busses.
This is a work in progress to shut dow freight rail.
Most freight trains run near empty except for coal.
On 24/02/2020 12:24 pm, Petzl wrote:
Most freight trains run near empty except for coal.
Any evidence of that that you can point to?
I'd be rather surprised of empty containers are constantly being
shuttled thousands of kilometres across Australia. To what end?
Sylvia.
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:18:09 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:
On 24/02/2020 12:24 pm, Petzl wrote:
Most freight trains run near empty except for coal.Any evidence of that that you can point to?
I'd be rather surprised of empty containers are constantly being
shuttled thousands of kilometres across Australia. To what end?
Sylvia.
Containers from ports are full, then they become problem https://is.gd/Ef0WwY Botany container yard
In <e9965fh7bag39orh4b4q3ccqe7cc0urd40@4ax.com>, Petzl
<petzlx@gmail.com> writes:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 23:17:55 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 17:41:37 +1100, Petzl wrote:First priority is to shut down passenger services.
Called spin twisting and turning You yourself have posted here about
the neglect of Australian track works.
Any main track that cannot support 160 km/h needs shutting down.
In NSW, they have done that for all passenger routes, except Sydney to >>>Mebourne. The "passenger services" now run on busses.
This is a work in progress to shut dow freight rail.
Most freight trains run near empty except for coal.
Petzl, you obviously don't live near the Sydney to Melbourne or Perth to Parkes tracks, or else you are vision impaired.
In <e9965fh7bag39orh4b4q3ccqe7cc0urd40@4ax.com>, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> writes:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 23:17:55 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 17:41:37 +1100, Petzl wrote:First priority is to shut down passenger services.
Called spin twisting and turning You yourself have posted here about the >>>> neglect of Australian track works.
Any main track that cannot support 160 km/h needs shutting down.
In NSW, they have done that for all passenger routes, except Sydney to >>>Mebourne. The "passenger services" now run on busses.
This is a work in progress to shut dow freight rail.
Most freight trains run near empty except for coal.
Petzl, you obviously don't live near the Sydney to Melbourne or Perth to Parkes
tracks, or else you are vision impaired.
In <e9965fh7bag39orh4b4q3ccqe7cc0urd40@4ax.com>, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> writes:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 23:17:55 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 17:41:37 +1100, Petzl wrote:First priority is to shut down passenger services.
Called spin twisting and turning You yourself have posted here about the >>>> neglect of Australian track works.
Any main track that cannot support 160 km/h needs shutting down.
In NSW, they have done that for all passenger routes, except Sydney to
Mebourne. The "passenger services" now run on busses.
This is a work in progress to shut dow freight rail.
Most freight trains run near empty except for coal.
Petzl, you obviously don't live near the Sydney to Melbourne or Perth to Parkes
tracks, or else you are vision impaired.
On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 01:28:44 GMT, johnsuth@nospam.com.au wrote:
In <e9965fh7bag39orh4b4q3ccqe7cc0urd40@4ax.com>, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> writes:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 23:17:55 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 17:41:37 +1100, Petzl wrote:First priority is to shut down passenger services.
Called spin twisting and turning You yourself have posted here about the >>>>> neglect of Australian track works.
Any main track that cannot support 160 km/h needs shutting down.
In NSW, they have done that for all passenger routes, except Sydney to >>>> Mebourne. The "passenger services" now run on busses.
This is a work in progress to shut dow freight rail.
Most freight trains run near empty except for coal.
Petzl, you obviously don't live near the Sydney to Melbourne or Perth to Parkes
tracks, or else you are vision impaired.
Live near main line only travel by passenger train, most
freight/containers trains are empty going past.
Yes I now have vision problems but worked at Botany and saw 1000's of
empty containers being delivered,
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:45:46 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>
wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 18:21:26 +1100, Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:41:55 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>melbourne-wallan/11986230
wrote:
On 20/02/2020 11:50 pm, rgth17@yahoo.com.au wrote:
ABC reporting this evening of the XPT derailment in Wallan (Vic)
resulting in two fatalities.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-20/two-dead-in-train-derailment-
https://is.gd/jRIj5T
Probably would have been prevented if ATP had been installed.
Sylvia.
Very sad. the Sydney to Melbourne track badly needs money spent on it
Well, you voted for the mob that privatised it all and didn't start
kicking arse when it was obvious that they were going to run it all down.
I have NEVER voted Labor or Coalition for over 40 years
Both are corrupt scum that need hanging
On 26/2/20 12:28 pm, johnsuth@nospam.com.au wrote:
Petzl, you obviously don't live near the Sydney to Melbourne or PerthCertainly he lives nowhere near the Sydney-Brisbane line. In about 25
to Parkes tracks, or else you are vision impaired.
minutes a very heavily laden freight train will be screaming its way
slowly up the ridge out of town. It can be anything up to a kilometre
long and fully laden with everything *but* coal. It is just one of many trains whose progress disturbs the silence of these hills.
On Mon, 04 May 2020 20:21:46 +1000, Xeno wrote:
On 26/2/20 12:28 pm, johnsuth@nospam.com.au wrote:
Petzl, you obviously don't live near the Sydney to Melbourne or PerthCertainly he lives nowhere near the Sydney-Brisbane line. In about 25
to Parkes tracks, or else you are vision impaired.
minutes a very heavily laden freight train will be screaming its way
slowly up the ridge out of town. It can be anything up to a kilometre
long and fully laden with everything *but* coal. It is just one of many
trains whose progress disturbs the silence of these hills.
He actually lives very close to the Sydney-Melbourne line, but bviously
is asleep when the freight trains roll into the Sydney metro area. There
are only a few during the day due to conflct with the Metrolpolitain passenger trains.
Although, his comment about empty is part true as many trains are set consists carrying containers as their load and the percentage of
containers vary.
On 22/2/20 8:17 pm, Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:45:46 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>So you're a donkey then??
wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 18:21:26 +1100, Petzl wrote:I have NEVER voted Labor or Coalition for over 40 years
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:41:55 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> >>>> wrote:melbourne-wallan/11986230
On 20/02/2020 11:50 pm, rgth17@yahoo.com.au wrote:
ABC reporting this evening of the XPT derailment in Wallan (Vic)
resulting in two fatalities.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-20/two-dead-in-train-derailment-
https://is.gd/jRIj5T
Probably would have been prevented if ATP had been installed.
Sylvia.
Very sad. the Sydney to Melbourne track badly needs money spent on it
Well, you voted for the mob that privatised it all and didn't start
kicking arse when it was obvious that they were going to run it all down. >>
Both are corrupt scum that need hanging
On Mon, 04 May 2020 20:21:46 +1000, Xeno wrote:
On 26/2/20 12:28 pm, johnsuth@nospam.com.au wrote:
Petzl, you obviously don't live near the Sydney to Melbourne or PerthCertainly he lives nowhere near the Sydney-Brisbane line. In about 25
to Parkes tracks, or else you are vision impaired.
minutes a very heavily laden freight train will be screaming its way
slowly up the ridge out of town. It can be anything up to a kilometre
long and fully laden with everything *but* coal. It is just one of many
trains whose progress disturbs the silence of these hills.
He actually lives very close to the Sydney-Melbourne line, but bviously
is asleep when the freight trains roll into the Sydney metro area. There
are only a few during the day due to conflct with the Metrolpolitain >passenger trains.
Although, his comment about empty is part true as many trains are set >consists carrying containers as their load and the percentage of
containers vary.
If you must know I have always voted "Christian Democratic Party" or a Christian aligned party if not available.
Exception was For Mark Latham for NSW's Senate.
He used to be a nieghbour of mine, know him well, while not devout
Christian he has Australian Christian values and stands up for them and family,
That's why Labor turned on him was because of his Australian Values.
On Tue, 05 May 2020 09:58:12 +1000, Petzl wrote:
If you must know I have always voted "Christian Democratic Party" or a
Christian aligned party if not available.
Exception was For Mark Latham for NSW's Senate.
He used to be a nieghbour of mine, know him well, while not devout
Christian he has Australian Christian values and stands up for them and
family,
That's why Labor turned on him was because of his Australian Values.
Nope, it was his tendancy to sprout fruit loop ideas that made conspiracy >nuts sound rational. he dug his own grave and jumped right it.
On Mon, 4 May 2020 20:25:29 +1000, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On 22/2/20 8:17 pm, Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:45:46 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>So you're a donkey then??
wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 18:21:26 +1100, Petzl wrote:I have NEVER voted Labor or Coalition for over 40 years
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:41:55 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> >>>>> wrote:Well, you voted for the mob that privatised it all and didn't start
On 20/02/2020 11:50 pm, rgth17@yahoo.com.au wrote:https://is.gd/jRIj5T
ABC reporting this evening of the XPT derailment in Wallan (Vic) >>>>>>> resulting in two fatalities.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-20/two-dead-in-train-derailment- >>>> melbourne-wallan/11986230
Probably would have been prevented if ATP had been installed.
Sylvia.
Very sad. the Sydney to Melbourne track badly needs money spent on it >>>>
kicking arse when it was obvious that they were going to run it all down. >>>
Both are corrupt scum that need hanging
If you must know I have always voted "Christian Democratic Party" or a Christian aligned party if not available.
Exception was For Mark Latham for NSW's Senate.
He used to be a nieghbour of mine, know him well, while not devout
Christian he has Australian Christian values and stands up for them
and family,
That's why Labor turned on him was because of his Australian Values.
If you want Chinese values vote Labor
On Tue, 05 May 2020 09:58:12 +1000, Petzl wrote:
If you must know I have always voted "Christian Democratic Party" or a
Christian aligned party if not available.
Exception was For Mark Latham for NSW's Senate.
He used to be a nieghbour of mine, know him well, while not devout
Christian he has Australian Christian values and stands up for them and
family,
That's why Labor turned on him was because of his Australian Values.
Nope, it was his tendancy to sprout fruit loop ideas that made conspiracy nuts sound rational. he dug his own grave and jumped right it.
On Tue, 5 May 2020 00:53:02 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>
wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2020 09:58:12 +1000, Petzl wrote:
If you must know I have always voted "Christian Democratic Party" or a
Christian aligned party if not available.
Exception was For Mark Latham for NSW's Senate.
He used to be a nieghbour of mine, know him well, while not devout
Christian he has Australian Christian values and stands up for them and
family,
That's why Labor turned on him was because of his Australian Values.
Nope, it was his tendancy to sprout fruit loop ideas that made conspiracy
nuts sound rational. he dug his own grave and jumped right it.
Your brain has been frazzled by being "Murdoched", "Fairfaxed" and
"ABC'ed",
Most like you Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens" instead of
thinking
On 5/5/20 9:58 am, Petzl wrote:
On Mon, 4 May 2020 20:25:29 +1000, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
On 22/2/20 8:17 pm, Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:45:46 -0000 (UTC), news18 <news18@woa.com.au>So you're a donkey then??
wrote:
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 18:21:26 +1100, Petzl wrote:I have NEVER voted Labor or Coalition for over 40 years
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:41:55 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:Well, you voted for the mob that privatised it all and didn't start
On 20/02/2020 11:50 pm, rgth17@yahoo.com.au wrote:https://is.gd/jRIj5T
ABC reporting this evening of the XPT derailment in Wallan (Vic) >>>>>>>> resulting in two fatalities.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-20/two-dead-in-train-derailment- >>>>> melbourne-wallan/11986230
Probably would have been prevented if ATP had been installed.
Sylvia.
Very sad. the Sydney to Melbourne track badly needs money spent on it >>>>>
kicking arse when it was obvious that they were going to run it all down. >>>>
Both are corrupt scum that need hanging
If you must know I have always voted "Christian Democratic Party" or a
Christian aligned party if not available.
I prefer religion to be kept out of politics. It has no place there.
Exception was For Mark Latham for NSW's Senate.
He used to be a nieghbour of mine, know him well, while not devout
Christian he has Australian Christian values and stands up for them
and family,
You might want to better define Christian values because, as I see it,
most of those who profess Christian values don't live by them.
That's why Labor turned on him was because of his Australian Values.
Latham went rogue, that was his problem, nothing else.
--
If you want Chinese values vote Labor
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