Why has JD Vance been silent about this outrage???
On 9/3/26 11:02 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Why has JD Vance been silent about this outrage???Hij zal wel een paar miljoen redenen hebben.
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Once an organization gains any influence, it will be corrupted from both >within and without.
Edmund
Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote
Once an organization gains any influence, it willbe corrupted from
both within and without.
Countermeasures
Strict Transparency:
Radical openness in decision-making and financials leaves little room
for hidden agendas.
Term Limits and Rotation:
Preventing individuals from institutionalizing their power breaks up potential oligarchies.
Independent Oversight:
Robust, external auditing bodies with the power to punish misconduct
can keep both internal and external bad actors in check.
On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 12:20:50 +0200, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 9/3/26 11:02 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:He probably has a few million reasons.
Why has JD Vance been silent about this outrage???Hij zal wel een paar miljoen redenen hebben.
Why has JD Vance been silent about this outrage???
On Fri, 04 Sep 2026 07:38:24 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 12:20:50 +0200, Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 9/3/26 11:02 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:He probably has a few million reasons.
Why has JD Vance been silent about this outrage???Hij zal wel een paar miljoen redenen hebben.
And all live in New York and Hollywood.
The so called Christian "Teachers" involved are from Arab countries
that kill Christians for claiming to be Christian Teachers?
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote
Once an organization gains any influence, it willbe corrupted from
both within and without.
Mindless bullshit
Countermeasures
Strict Transparency:
Not even possible with politics
Radical openness in decision-making and financials leaves little room
for hidden agendas.
Mindless bullshit and hidden agendas are just mindless conspiracy theorys
Term Limits and Rotation:
Preventing individuals from institutionalizing their power breaks up
potential oligarchies.
Mindless bullshit and term limits mean that you are stuck with
newbies who don't have a fucking clue how politics works
Independent Oversight:
Not even possible with the political system
Robust, external auditing bodies with the power to punish misconduct
That's what the legal system is for
can keep both internal and external bad actors in check.
Bullshit
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
The so called Christian "Teachers" involved are from Arab countries
From gaza etc actually
that kill Christians for claiming to be Christian Teachers?
Fantasy
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote
Once an organization gains any influence, it will
be corrupted from both within and without.
Mindless bullshit
Countermeasures
Strict Transparency:
Not even possible with politics
Radical openness in decision-making and financials leaves little room
for hidden agendas.
Mindless bullshit and hidden agendas are just mindless conspiracy
theorys
Term Limits and Rotation:
Preventing individuals from institutionalizing their power breaks up
potential oligarchies.
Mindless bullshit and term limits mean that you are stuck with
newbies who don't have a fucking clue how politics works
Independent Oversight:
Not even possible with the political system
Robust, external auditing bodies with the power to punish misconduct
That's what the legal system is for
can keep both internal and external bad actors in check.
Bullshit
Get used to it Pauline Hanson's One Nation is comming
Albanese Labor has used tax payers money to fund overseasompanies to
take over Riverina farmland for pine plantations
(estimated time for Crop havest is 30 years)
What's the life expectacy of Griffith when food production stops?
Doing this in Tasmania <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-14/parliamentary-committee-to-probe-rushy-lagoon-sale/107014090>
https://tinyurl.com/4ntxeprj
Primary Industries Minister Gavin Pearce told parliament yesterday
that significant questions remained, including whether federal
government policies were "inadvertently favouring carbon credit
outcomes over ongoing fibre and food production".
The state government has said federal funding for the plantation
project, including through the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and
the Australian Carbon Credit Unit Scheme, meant taxpayer money was
used to help Gresham House outbid Australian farmers for the property.
But you won't care when Griffith's robust regional powerhouse anchored
by intensive agriculture, beverage manufacturing, and food processing.
It features a Gross Regional Product (GRP) of roughly $2.05 billion, supporting over 16,700 local jobs and an ultra-low unemployment rate
of around 2.3%
All goes away for 30 years
about when Albanese Labor think Australia
will get 2nd hand US nuclear submarines.
You still don't see my signature as accurate
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteYep
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wroteOh???
The so called Christian "Teachers" involved are from Arab countriesFrom gaza etc actually
that kill Christians for claiming to be Christian Teachers?Fantasy
While there are no Arab countries with specific, named laws statingNONE of the teachers who have just had their permits to teach
they will execute someone strictly for the occupational title of
"Christian Teacher," several Arab and Muslim-majority nations enforce
strict Sharia-based laws where teaching ChristianityrCoparticularly to MuslimsrCois prosecuted under capital offenses like apostasy (leaving
Islam) or blasphemy (insulting Islam). <https://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2021/11/death-sentence-for-apostasy-in-nearly-a-dozen-countries-report-says>
https://tinyurl.com/4kcnxzpm
In these legal frameworks, if a person born Muslim claims to be aBut in reality don't and NONE of the teachers who have just had their
Christian or attempts to convert others by teaching Christianity, they> can face the death penalty
But you won't care when Griffith's robust regional powerhouse anchored
by intensive agriculture, beverage manufacturing, and food processing.
None of that has changed due to NEW PINE PLANTATIONS and has
NOTHING to do with that previous shit of yours I commented on
It features a Gross Regional Product (GRP) of roughly $2.05 billion,
supporting over 16,700 local jobs and an ultra-low unemployment rate
of around 2.3%
Has NOTHING to do with that previous shit of yours I commented on
All goes away for 30 years
Bullshit it does. You have no fucking idea about
how pine plantations are done and there are
NONE here anyway and has NOTHING to do
with that previous shit of yours I commented on
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
But you won't care when Griffith's robust regional powerhouse anchored
by intensive agriculture, beverage manufacturing, and food processing.
None of that has changed due to NEW PINE PLANTATIONS
It features a Gross Regional Product (GRP) of roughly $2.05 billion,
supporting over 16,700 local jobs and an ultra-low unemployment rate
of around 2.3%
All goes away for 30 years
Bullshit it does. You have no fucking idea about
how pine plantations are done and there are
NONE here anyway
Industry Demands: Softwood industry groups andregional processors in
the Riverina Highlands
have lobbied for an expansion of the pine
plantation estate (suggesting tens of thousands of new hectares are
needed) to offset historical bushfire losses and secure future
building timber supplies. vs. Plantation Focus: Proposals emphasize maintaining and growing softwood timber yields while strictly
separating industrial timber operations from native woodland
conservation and restoration projects managed via Local Land Services
in the wider Riverina region
have lobbied for an expansion of the pine
plantation estate (suggesting tens of thousands of new hectares are
needed) to offset historical bushfire losses and secure future
building timber supplies. vs. Plantation Focus: Proposals emphasize
maintaining and growing softwood timber yields while strictly
separating industrial timber operations from native woodland
conservation and restoration projects managed via Local Land Services
in the wider Riverina region
NO ONE is actually stupid enough to do pine
plantations on irrigation land, fuckwit
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteBecause pine pantations aren't economically viable, stupid
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
have lobbied for an expansion of the pine plantation estate
Bullshit it is.Well I wouldn't, as it is NSW's food bowl(suggesting tens of thousands of new hectares areNO ONE is actually stupid enough to do pine
needed) to offset historical bushfire losses and secure future
building timber supplies. vs. Plantation Focus: Proposals emphasize>>> maintaining and growing softwood timber yields while strictly
separating industrial timber operations from native woodland
conservation and restoration projects managed via Local Land Services
in the wider Riverina region
plantations on irrigation land, fuckwit
Albanese Labor is and using Australian tax money to help the pom'sNo local farmers are stupid enough to be doing pine plantations
company make higher offers than local farmers can offer.
*Pinus Radiata* is the preferred tree,Bullshit it does. NO pine plantation is irrigated
it needs water lots of it to grow.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2519051718613833Nothing whatever to do with PINE PLANTATIONS
Paul Toole MP
Right across regional NSW, productive farmland is being carved up for
massive transmission lines, solar farms and wind turbines.
Our communities are sick of the spin anddeceit from these foreign owned > companies.No foreign company is doing any massive transmission line
At the Bush Summit, Anthony Albanese said rCLthere needs to be more consultation with communitiesrCY and Chris Minns said the rCLLaborYou can however keep producing food under them
Government will keep charging aheadrCY with their ideology.
You canrCOt eat a transmission line.
We need to protect our farmers and productive farmland.So the federal govt isn't doing what you stupidly claimed
Already done this in Tasmania.Even the ABC have reported this https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-14/parliamentary-committee-to-probe-rushy-lagoon-sale/107014090Because they DON'T REQUIRE LOTS OF WATER as you
https://tinyurl.com/4ntxeprj
yesterday that significant questions remained, including whether
federal government policies were "inadvertently favoring carbon credit> outcomes over ongoing fibre and food production".
The state government has said federal funding for the plantation
project, including through the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and
the Australian Carbon Credit Unit Scheme, meant taxpayer money was
used to help Gresham House outbid Australian farmers for the property.But not for PINE PLANTATIONS
All this Pinus Radiata can be grown on the arid side of
"The Great Dividing Range
The arid and semi-arid side of the New South Wales Great DividingMore pig ignorant bullshit
Range lies on its western slopes and plains. As moisture-laden air
from the Pacific drops rain on the eastern side, the mountains create
a rain shadow effect, causing the climate west of the range to
transition into dry inland plains, shrublands, and deserts
Water can be supplied by Sydney/Melbourne Sewage sea outfalls afterNO ONE irrigates pine plantations you pig ignorant clown
treating it to at least non-potable water
(water that is not safe to drink) or better.
Just to drill through the Dividing range around AU$500 million
For a 500 mm pipeline, microtunneling with two ( Microtunneling Boring> Machines) MTBMs is technically feasible and can shorten the schedule,Pity about the fucking snowy scheme, you pig ignorant clown
but expect all-in unit costs in the low-to-mid thousands of dollars
per metre in favourable ground, rising significantly in the harder or
more variable geology of the Great Dividing Range.
A multi-kilometre crossing would therefore run into the tens to low
hundreds of millions of dollars for the tunnelling component alone.
These are order-of-magnitude figures only
a proper estimate requires a specific alignment, geotechnical
investigation and contractor input (Eion Musk boring company
guarantees price no blowout).
Where the plantation I'm suggesting is very environmental by growingNo one irrigates pine plantations, because they don't need it
pines there at present water the problem land is arid,Radiata *Trees drinking*, feed atmosphere with water (each tree 10 litres a day)
creating more rain, the size of a football field of grown trees shows
a measured increase in rainfall. their pollen bloom is full of
phosphorus
So may have ecological problems/advantages?
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
All this Pinus Radiata can be grown on the arid side of
"The Great Dividing Range
Because they DON'T REQUIRE LOTS OF WATER as you
pig ignorantly claim
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteWe'll see,,,
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wroteSo says Rod speed a egotistical self appointed know-all
All this Pinus Radiata can be grown on the arid side ofBecause they DON'T REQUIRE LOTS OF WATER as you
"The Great Dividing Range
pig ignorantly claim
who knows nothing!
this article is about Tasmainan farms being sold to BritishThat's not the arid side of The Great Dividing Range, fuckwit
(Tax payer money subsidisised buyer)Just another stupid lie
replacing productive farm with Pinus RadiataFantasy
this pine species needs lots of water,Bullshit it does
but is consider fast growing with around a 30 year crop rotation.But is completely fucking hopeless economically
<https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-14/parliamentary-committee-to-probe-rushy-lagoon-sale/107014090>Bullshit it is
https://tinyurl.com/4ntxeprj
The Government is now pushing for same in Riverina NSW
Government (Forestry Corporation of NSW)That's not the Albo govt, fuckwit
softwood (mainly radiataNone of those are the fucking RIVERINA
pine) plantations are concentrated in higher-rainfall areas such as
the South West Slopes (Tumut/Tumbarumba), Central Tablelands (Oberon/Bathurst),
and other suitable zonesrConot the core irrigatedSo your previous stupidity about Griffith was
food-production lands around Griffith itself.
Rotation lengths are typically 25rCo40 years (often citedaround 30 > years) before clear-fell harvest and replant.--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
These plantations support timber/processing jobs and regional
economies in their own locations
None of those are the fucking RIVERINA
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteWe'll see...
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wroteYou need to find a news source that keeps you informed
softwood (mainly radiataNone of those are the fucking RIVERINA
pine) plantations are concentrated in higher-rainfall areas such as
the South West Slopes (Tumut/Tumbarumba), Central Tablelands
(Oberon/Bathurst),
Like with facts
The heart of a massive, brewing political and social crisis inJust more mindless bullshit
regional Australia.
Many rural communities, agricultural advocates, and economists shareThat's not what pine plantations are about, fuckwit
your frustration, arguing that sacrificing prime, food-producing
agricultural land just to generate corporate carbon credits
is incredibly short-sighted.That's not what pine plantations are about, fuckwit
This exact tensionrCooften called the "Food vs. Carbon" debaterCo
is causing a major political backlash across the country for several> critical reasons:1. The threat to food securityNo such thing given the inevitable increase in food yeilds
australiarCOs premium agricultural zones, like the NSW RiverinaWhere there is NO sacrificing prime, food-producing
or the Tasmanian agricultural flats,Which produce fuck all food apart from potatoes
have taken generations of farming families toNone of which have been sacrificing prime, food-producing
develop, clear, and optimize for food production.
agricultural land just to generate corporate carbon creditsAnother stupid lie on the subsidies
When a foreign investment firm uses taxpayer-backed subsidies
to buy a functional, productive dairy or grain farmand carpets it in > a pinus radiata monoculture,That isnt happening with any of that land
that land is effectively locked out ofthe food supply chain for > decades.And that doesn't matter a damn given
Critics argue that during a time of global food insecurityIrrelevant given what you listed isnt exported
and rising grocery prices, taking highly productive Australian soilThat's bullshit with the tasmanian land
out of rotation to act as a "Pollution sink"That's not what pine plantations are about
for heavy industries is a dangerous policy failureIts not even a policy with pine plantations
.2. Sucking regional communities dryJust another stupid pig ignorant fantasy
the damage isn't just to the soilrCoit fundamentallyalters the fabric of > regional towns.That ALWAYS happens ANYWAY
The "Ghost town" effect:In fact it mostly employs illegal immigrants
a traditional broadacre, dairy, or irrigated crop farm employs local workers,
uses local mechanics,They still have plenty of work with the remaining agriculture
buys from local grain merchants,That still happens to feed the immense chicken and pig operations
and supports local schools.They implode anyway given the mechanisation of agriculture
The forestry reality:That's not why pine plantations are done because they
once a carbon-credit pine plantation is planted,
it requires almostMore pig ignorant bullshit. Pine plantations have
zero labor or local input for the first 15 to 25 years until harvest.
The local families leave, businesses close,That happens with ALL of the smaller regional towns
and vibrant rural communities slowly hollow outThat happens with ALL of the smaller regional towns
.3. Subsidizing the destruction of local agricultureDoesn't happen
what infuriatesThat isn't what is happening
local farmers the most is the unfair playing field created by the
Australian carbon credit unit (accu) scheme
and entities like theThe current reality is a massive hike in farm property
clean energy finance corporation (cefc).Local farming families who
want to produce food cannot compete at auction against global multi-billion-dollar asset managers.
Because these foreign firms are backed by government green subsidiesBullshit they are with pine plantations
and the promise of lucrative carbon offsets,That doesn't happen with pine plantations
they can easily outbidJust another stupid pig ignorant fantasy, presumably
local farmers, artificially driving up the price of farmland and
locking young Australian farmers out of the market.
it requires almost
zero labor or local input for the first 15 to 25 years until harvest.
More pig ignorant bullshit. Pine plantations have
to be thinned because they have to be planted at
a high density to get straight pines that are what
is needed timber wise
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wroteStill means that original shit is just that, ignorant shit
The labor is short team and hard work.it requires almostMore pig ignorant bullshit. Pine plantations have
zero labor or local input for the first 15 to 25 years until harvest.
to be thinned because they have to be planted at
a high density to get straight pines that are what
is needed timber wise
Employment is bought over from Pacific Island every 5 years for a fewSo your original shit is just that, ignorant shit
months depending how big the plantations are. However once done the or> another plantation may need doing
(they ready fence posts for treating from missform trees )No one does fence posts with softwood you ignorant clown
Probably be housed in Griffiths abandoned housesNo such thing here, we have a desperate shortage
although Ghost city Griffith won't have, roads, sewage or electricity > by then.Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken
You will be in Sydney begging on the streets by then.Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys
This cyclical declinerCoBullshit it is with the MIA
where population lossIsnt happening, that's why the desperate shortage
leads to service cuts,Isn't happening, we have just go a brand new base
which in turn drives remaining families awayIsnt happening, that's why the desperate shortage
rCois exactly why regionalNo need for that here because NO ONE is actually stupid enough
lobby groups are pushing state and federal governments to implement
strict agricultural land protections.
The goal of these protections isNot happening here because NO ONE is actually stupid enough
to ensure that carbon abatement strategies do not inadvertently
dismantle the foundational infrastructure of Australia's food bowls.
(they ready fence posts for treating from missform trees )
No one does fence posts with softwood you ignorant clown
Probably be housed in Griffiths abandoned houses
No such thing here, we have a desperate shortage
of houses even tho we build hundreds every year
and even someone as stupid as you can see that
using google earth
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
(they ready fence posts for treating from missform trees )
No one does fence posts with softwood you ignorant clown
? found better than a concrete post.
if a bull scratches his arse on
one it breaks. A green treated fence post wont.
Probably be housed in Griffiths abandoned houses
No such thing here, we have a desperate shortage
of houses even tho we build hundreds every year
and even someone as stupid as you can see that
using google earth
The Carbon scare is to remove non-Labor voting areas off the
Australian map.
The Riverena is targeted
Federally subsidized carbon forestry frameworks,
backed by the Albanese Government,
disproportionately penalise these non-Labor votingareas by hollowing
out their primary industries.
If corporate carbon buyouts displace family farms,
they effectively reduce the populationof these traditional rural
voting bases.
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