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    From Ozix@ozix@xizo.am to aus.politics on Wed Aug 12 17:15:33 2026
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    How long until the Liberals shoot all their toes off?
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Aug 13 00:56:12 2026
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    Ozix
    How long until the Liberals shoot all their toes off?

    I reckon in a way they already have.
    And the less they distance themselves from the fully deplorable
    fish&chips auntie the more likely to sink themselves farther.

    The Libs currently only have a single policy on offer and that is to say
    *NO* in a Mad Monk Abbott style to every single thing Labor dares even
    to suggest, yet they hope to gain their old credibility and voters back
    to where it used to be under the reign of the lying rodent gnome Howard regimes' heyday years. What could go wrong, eh?
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Aug 13 13:06:27 2026
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    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 00:56:12 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

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    Ozix
    How long until the Liberals shoot all their toes off?

    I reckon in a way they already have.
    And the less they distance themselves from the fully deplorable
    fish&chips auntie the more likely to sink themselves farther.

    The Libs currently only have a single policy on offer and that is to say >*NO* in a Mad Monk Abbott style to every single thing Labor dares even
    to suggest, yet they hope to gain their old credibility and voters back
    to where it used to be under the reign of the lying rodent gnome Howard >regimes' heyday years. What could go wrong, eh?

    +rd%g if you are going to be a commie use the truth.
    All commies I know do.
    Example
    All politicians in Australia are careers ones with Zero allegiance to
    the party they claim to represent.
    Positively corrupt criminals the lot

    Barnaby Joyce and Angus Tayor the "Australian Watergate" scandal
    The greater crook of the two is untouchable "Barnaby Joyce" now fled
    to One Nation (possibly kicked out?)

    https://share.google/aimode/178tb4dxXaFgYKx0Y
    AustraliaAs so-called "Watergate" scandal involves a controversial $80
    million government water buyback in 2017. Then-Water Minister Barnaby
    Joyce approved the purchase of water entitlements from Eastern
    Australia Agriculture (EAA), a company previously co-founded by his
    political colleague Angus Taylor, with profits flowing to a Cayman
    Islands parent company.The "Watergate" Buyback Details The
    Transaction: In July 2017, the federal government paid $80 million for approximately 29 gigalitres of water rights from two southern
    Queensland properties (Kia Ora and Clyde) owned by EAA.Above-Market
    Pricing: Unredacted commercial valuation documents later revealed that
    the Commonwealth paid $2,745 per megalitreusignificantly higher than
    the upper range of the independent valuation it had commissioned
    ($1,100 to $2,300 per megalitre).The Tax Haven Link: EAA booked a $52
    million profit on the sale, much of which was transferred to a parent
    company registered in the Cayman Islands, obscuring the final
    beneficiaries.No Open Tender: The purchase bypassed normal open-tender competitive processes, prompting severe criticism from crossbench
    politicians, the Greens, and independent watchdogs regarding value for
    money and transparency.Defenses: Barnaby Joyce maintained that the
    transaction was handled at "arm's length" by the department and that
    he relied on departmental advice regarding the procurement, while
    Angus Taylor stated he had severed ties with EAA prior to entering
    federal politics.Other Scrutinised Deals and Controversies While
    "Watergate" remains the most prominent water-related controversy under
    his oversight, Joyce's career has faced scrutiny over other
    contentious issues and governance questions:The $190 Million
    Murrumbidgee Irrigation Deal: Alongside the EAA purchase, the
    Department of Agriculture and Water Resources under Joyce's broader
    ministerial oversight faced questioning over other non-tender
    strategic water acquisitions, including a nearly $80 million
    single-source purchase from Murrumbidgee Irrigation, which critics
    argued lacked sufficient public justification and transparency.The
    Great Artesian Basin Bottling Proposal: As a local federal member and
    minister, Joyce faced conflict-of-interest questions and community
    backlash concerning proposals involving groundwater extraction for
    commercial bottled water operations in regional Australia, though
    these did not carry the same financial scale as the buyback
    scandals.General Departmental "Shambles": Australian National Audit
    Office (ANAO) reviews into the strategic water purchasing program
    criticized the Department of Agriculture and Water Resources for
    inadequate record-keeping, poor management of potential conflicts of
    interest, and failing to properly document why certain premium prices
    were paid during Joyce's tenure as minister.
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    Petzl
    An evil enemy will from within,
    will burn his own nation to then rule over the ashes.
    Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu
    (author of The Art of War), 5th century BC.
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Aug 13 05:45:46 2026
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    |urd||g >> Ozix
    How long until the Liberals shoot all their toes off?

    I reckon in a way they already have.
    And the less they distance themselves from the fully deplorable
    fish&chips auntie the more likely to sink themselves farther.

    The Libs currently only have a single policy on offer and that is to say
    *NO* in a Mad Monk Abbott style to every single thing Labor dares even
    to suggest, yet they hope to gain their old credibility and voters back
    to where it used to be under the reign of the lying rodent gnome Howard
    regimes' heyday years. What could go wrong, eh?

    |urd||g if you are going to be a commie use the truth.
    All commies I know do.

    ROTFLOL! Are you trying to lecture me on the nature of truth by lying as
    if there was no tomorrow, Petz dear. Everyone in this newsgroup knows
    for fact that you would not recognise a communist if you fell over one.

    Sorry Petz dear, but I won't take any sort of instructions on how to be ideologically anything from a rabid far-right leaning wanker like you.
    And that is a fact, you should have noticed a long long time ago had you
    not used super glue to attach your reality eliminating blinkers so firmly.

    Example
    All politicians in Australia are careers ones with Zero allegiance to
    the party they claim to represent.
    Positively corrupt criminals the lot

    BULLSHIT!
    Gross generalisation won't get you far when interpreting politics and evaluating politicians' worth.

    Barnaby Joyce and Angus Tayor the "Australian Watergate" scandal
    The greater crook of the two is untouchable "Barnaby Joyce" now fled
    to One Nation (possibly kicked out?)

    And your point is??? Tell the newsgroup something they don't already know.
    Both Joyce and Taylor are pathetic human beings and apparently always
    have been so. But clearly not every other politician in existence are
    exactly like them.


    https://share.google/aimode/techno-slop rubbish hallucinations
    AustraliarCOs ...

    I have told you already that I have blocked out all AI slop from my
    browsers and search engines. I do not need to you to dump on me AI
    generated slop just to fry my brain.
    Please kindly stop doing so as it will instantly get the cyber nirvana treatment from me!

    My critique still stands on what direction the coalition is moving these
    days and what ON is offering to the voting public. So what did you
    intend on proving by dumping shit well deservedly on Barnaby. You should
    have known that I have no objections against pointing out this attention
    and power seeking bastards horrible personal and political nature.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Aug 13 14:09:33 2026
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    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    All politicians in Australia are careers ones with Zero allegiance to
    the party they claim to represent.
    Bullshit
    Positively corrupt criminals the lot
    Bullshit
    Barnaby Joyce and Angus Tayor the "Australian Watergate" scandal
    Mindless bullshit
    The greater crook of the two is untouchable "Barnaby Joyce" now fled
    to One Nation
    He didn't flee
    (possibly kicked out?)
    Nope, he decided that he was sick of sitting in the
    back corner of party meetings and being ignored
    And then that fool Littleproud decided to quit and
    Canavan, Joyce's mate replaced him and I bet
    Joyce regretted joining one notion and risking
    getting binned by his electorate
    https://share.google/aimode/178tb4dxXaFgYKx0Y
    AustraliarCOs so-called "Watergate" scandal
    Nothing whatever to do with the real watergate
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Aug 13 20:01:27 2026
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    On 13/08/2026 1:45 pm, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
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    |urd||g >> Ozix
    How long until the Liberals shoot all their toes off?

    I reckon in a way they already have.
    And the less they distance themselves from the fully deplorable
    fish&chips auntie the more likely to sink themselves farther.

    The Libs currently only have a single policy on offer and that is to say >>> *NO* in a Mad Monk Abbott style to every single thing Labor dares even
    to suggest, yet they hope to gain their old credibility and voters back
    to where it used to be under the reign of the lying rodent gnome Howard
    regimes' heyday years. What could go wrong, eh?

    |urd||g if you are going to be a commie use the truth.
    All commies I know do.

    ROTFLOL! Are you trying to lecture me on the nature of truth by lying as
    if there was no tomorrow, Petz dear. Everyone in this newsgroup knows
    for fact that you would not recognise a communist if you fell over one.

    Oh, Come On, Ordog, the word "Communist" covers EVERYBODY from Eastern
    Europe through Russia and down through China to Vietnam (give or take), doesn't it??

    I mean 'Tar them all with the one Brush'. EVERYONE!! .... Makes Petzl's
    World View Oh, So easy!! ;-P
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Aug 14 00:22:26 2026
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    Daniel70
    |urd||g
    Petz
    |urd||g
    Ozix
    How long until the Liberals shoot all their toes off?

    I reckon in a way they already have.
    And the less they distance themselves from the fully deplorable
    fish&chips auntie the more likely to sink themselves farther.

    The Libs currently only have a single policy on offer and that is to
    say
    *NO* in a Mad Monk Abbott style to every single thing Labor dares even >>>> to suggest, yet they hope to gain their old credibility and voters back >>>> to where it used to be under the reign of the lying rodent gnome Howard >>>> regimes' heyday years. What could go wrong, eh?

    |urd||g if you are going to be a commie use the truth.
    All commies I know do.

    ROTFLOL! Are you trying to lecture me on the nature of truth by lying
    as if there was no tomorrow, Petz dear. Everyone in this newsgroup
    knows for fact that you would not recognise a communist if you fell
    over one.

    Oh, Come On, Ordog, the word "Communist" covers EVERYBODY from Eastern Europe through Russia and down through China to Vietnam (give or take), doesn't it??

    I am afraid, for Petz and those like him certainly do not constrain
    their mislabelling habits just to the regions you listed above.
    They also regard the US-Democrats, UK-Labour, Australian Labor and the
    Greens as well as anyone daring to disagree with their view of the
    Universe even the slightest as communists.
    In end effect for them this label has become just another demeaning
    swearword.

    I mean 'Tar them all with the one Brush'. EVERYONE!! .... Makes Petzl's World View Oh, So easy!! ;-P

    What I find so absolutely hilarious is when Petz is trying to lecture me
    on what communism is and what communists are supposed to be.
    I have grown up in "Communist Block" Hungary (which block never actually managed to become truly communist) and I know exactly what communism is
    (or better said, supposed to be).
    There was/still is a huge difference between communism as an ideology
    and those parties who used/use that label. Certainly it was true for the Communist Block that they implemented quite a number of measures
    correctly associated with socialism (nationalisation of industrial and agricultural production, free education and healthcare, dirt cheap
    public transport, free recreational facilities, full scale state
    sponsorship for arts and cultural events, etc).
    Sadly where all these states have horribly failed was in their
    centralised all too inflexible, dogmatic and stupidly micromanaged
    approach in running the system. Add to that a good those of Stalinist perversion of socialist and communist ideals into an authoritarian,
    personal cult state capitalist mess that curtailed access to truly
    democratic decision making and basic personal freedoms (like for
    instance the freedom of movement of people even within their own
    country) while setting impossible economic targets and then punishing
    people for not achieving those.
    But, apparently it was quite impossible to grow bananas in Siberia or
    likewise lemon trees in Hungary no matter what those party leaders
    decided for proving the might of the system their created! ;-).

    Anywho, enough of that. All I mean to say is that Petz is absolutely
    clueless and I am not about to tolerate his patronising and totally ill informed nonsense on this subject whatsoever.
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Aug 14 11:15:08 2026
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    On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 00:22:26 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

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    --
    Now under the commie troll name
    "The Newsgroup Devil"
    +rd%g the Armchair communist
    https://youtu.be/I-aQkAzTJSs?si=nb1vHyJ7a6ImK0zt

    As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
    he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
    That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
    for mass immigration promoted by politicians
    and big business.
    He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
    then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
    how great diversity is.
    He believes he is such a radical

    Communists View the Church as a Huge, Huge Firewall
    Against What They Want to Do
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Aug 14 04:22:51 2026
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    .... crickets ...

    Another typical Petz post w/o any content.
    Looks like he has lost the 'debate" again (if you can call this
    shit-show a debate) !
    I suppose this is him conceding that loss.
    As consolation price, just have suckle on another one of your GoonBags,
    Petz dear!
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Aug 14 19:28:27 2026
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    On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 04:22:51 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

    I suppose this is him conceding that loss.

    Just replied to your clipping most of what I were writing, into
    something I never wrote.
    Then making fake nonsensical claims about me

    **On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord, one thousand, eight
    hundred and eighty-three.
    Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
    He died**
    Cultural Marxism aims
    1. The creation of racism offenses.
    2. Continual change to create confusion
    3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
    4. The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
    5. Huge immigration and multiculturalism to destroy a countries
    identity.
    6. The promotion of drug taking (while pretending it is bad)
    7. Emptying of churches
    (Only the Christian churches as the underlying basis of our society is
    Judaeo Christian) Other religions are to be promoted and protected.
    8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime (Soft sentencing, revolving doors, more concern for the welfare of criminals
    than victims)
    9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits
    10. Control and dumbing down of media
    11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family by:
    (a) Attack the authority of the father.
    (b) deny the specific roles of father and mother.
    (c) Wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of
    their children.
    (d) Abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
    (e) Abolish all forms of male dominance
    (f) Declare women to be an 'oppressed class' and men as 'oppressors'
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    Now under the commie troll name
    "The Newsgroup Devil"
    +rd%g the Armchair communist
    https://youtu.be/I-aQkAzTJSs?si=nb1vHyJ7a6ImK0zt

    As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
    he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
    That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
    for mass immigration promoted by politicians
    and big business.
    He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
    then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
    how great diversity is.
    He believes he is such a radical

    Communists View the Church as a Huge, Huge Firewall
    Against What They Want to Do
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Sat Aug 15 01:15:43 2026
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    |urd||g >> I suppose this is him conceding that loss.
    Just replied to your clipping most of what I were writing, into
    something I never wrote.

    Do you really believe that people can't check the thread to see how that exchange went down.
    Are you hoping that readers of this newsgroup are as stupid as you are.

    Then making fake nonsensical claims about me

    It might have been nonsensical to you, Petz dear, but everyone else
    recognises the truth in my replies.

    Your regular whataboutist, goal posts shifting and Gish galloping
    replies won't win you any debates. As simple as that.
    Just look at the subject header in this thread and ask yourself WTF has
    the nonsense you spew in your replies has anything to do with the topic
    of discussion.

    **On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord, one thousand, eight
    hundred and eighty-three.

    Talking of your *Gish gallop* debating(????) tactics! LOL!

    I am not about to debate econo/sociopolitical ideologies with someone as dishonest, as wilfully ignorant and as semi-literate on the subject as
    you are.
    *Not now and not ever.*

    Specially not when your regurgitate the very same (by now old and tired) collection of hair raising alt-right nonsense propaganda bullshit you
    have managed to dig up from the bottom of your beloved social media
    cyber sewers just to somehow force me to respond on your terms.

    Nope. Sorry (not really) Petz dear, but this ain't gonna happen. I won't
    waste my time and energy on debunking *Gish gallop* junk dumping
    dishonest debaters.

    ....blah ... blah ... blah ...

    Flush this shit where it belongs.
    :-P :- p :- P
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