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*Credlin is the FAKE NEWS*

/The Tony Tonkin Show,31 Jul 2026/ <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOTfki_vcZ8>

"Here is Credlin suggesting that the Labour Party is a Jihadist
sympathiser. She is a disgrace"
~~~ ~~~

Well, certainly no one could accuse this ex-political-boss of Mad Monk
Abbot of ever being a champion of facts, logic, the truth and humanism.
She has always been a master of political slander and misrepresentation. Basically all here propaganda assertions are either made up from
red-herring constructs or plain old strawmen or both at the same time.
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On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 06:05:45 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

*Credlin is the FAKE NEWS*

/The Tony Tonkin Show,31 Jul 2026/ ><https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOTfki_vcZ8>

"Here is Credlin suggesting that the Labour Party is a Jihadist
sympathiser. She is a disgrace"
~~~ ~~~

Well, certainly no one could accuse this ex-political-boss of Mad Monk
Abbot of ever being a champion of facts, logic, the truth and humanism.
She has always been a master of political slander and misrepresentation. >Basically all here propaganda assertions are either made up from
red-herring constructs or plain old strawmen or both at the same time.

Every right minded Brit believes the Labour Party is a Jihadist
sympathiser, Labour consider Muslim voters a Labor voting bloc.

Criticisms and AllegationsForeign Policy Stance:
Critics often point to specific statements or actions by certain party
members regarding Middle Eastern conflicts as evidence of bias or
improper sympathy.
Internal Factions:
Elements of the party's left wing have faced allegations from
political opponents of being overly sympathetic to radical groups due
to their anti-war and pro-Palestinian advocacy.
Community Relations:
Critics argue that electoral strategies in areas with large Muslim
populations have sometimes led to compromises on security or
integration rhetoric.
--
Petzl
Whitlam did not want anti-communists to settle in Australia,
irrespective of whether they were genuine asylum seekers. Here his
stance differed from the position he took following the overthrow of
Salvador Allende's left-wing government in Chile in 1973.

Whitlam said on the ABC that Australia did not want oanother
!reactionary right-wing minorityo. Foreign minister Don Willesee
pleaded with him to take more. Whitlam replied: oIAm not having those
f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious
and political prejudices against us.o

Whitlam opposed the entry of Vietnamese refugees, saying they stirred
no sympathy in him. He added: oThere will be some resentment about the
people coming to Australia at a time of unemployment, and also people
from a very different way of life.o

In other words, Whitlam consciously stirred up ethnic and racial
prejudice against Vietnamese !because he thought they might be
politically hostile to Labor.

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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Every right minded Brit believes the Labour Party is a Jihadist
sympathiser,

Must be why Labour won the July 2024 election in a landslide

Labour consider Muslim voters a Labor voting bloc.

Must be why Labour has been slashing the immigration
of muslims and has been increasing the time that immigrants
get to wait before they get to vote

<reams of your steaming turd's AI shit flushed where it belongs>
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On Sat, 01 Aug 2026 19:07:41 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Every right minded Brit believes the Labour Party is a Jihadist
sympathiser,

Must be why Labour won the July 2024 election in a landslide

Labour consider Muslim voters a Labor voting bloc.

Must be why Labour has been slashing the immigration
of muslims and has been increasing the time that immigrants
get to wait before they get to vote

<reams of your steaming turd's AI shit flushed where it belongs>

Labour Party a United Kingdom Muslim political party.
United Kingdom headquarters
146 Park Rd, London NW8 7RG, UK
https://tinyurl.com/54nt6k28

Labor Party a Australian Muslim political party
Australian headquarters
Lakemba Mosque (Masjid Ali Bin Abi Talib)
67 Wangee Road, Lakemba,NSW, 2195
https://tinyurl.com/y45wbtzx
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Isn't it weird that in Australia, our flag and our culture offend so
many people...
but our benefits don't?
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Every right minded Brit believes the Labour Party is a Jihadist
sympathiser,

Must be why Labour won the July 2024 election in a landslide

Labour consider Muslim voters a Labor voting bloc.

Must be why Labour has been slashing the immigration
of muslims and has been increasing the time that immigrants
get to wait before they get to vote

<reams of your steaming turd's AI shit flushed where it belongs>

Labour Party a United Kingdom Muslim political party.

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

United Kingdom headquarters
146 Park Rd, London NW8 7RG, UK
https://tinyurl.com/54nt6k28

Labor Party a Australian Muslim political party
Australian headquarters
Lakemba Mosque (Masjid Ali Bin Abi Talib)
67 Wangee Road, Lakemba,NSW, 2195
https://tinyurl.com/y45wbtzx

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys
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# /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

|urd||g >

*Credlin is the FAKE NEWS*

/The Tony Tonkin Show,31 Jul 2026/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOTfki_vcZ8>

"Here is Credlin suggesting that the Labor Party is a Jihadist
sympathiser. She is a disgrace"
~~~ ~~~

Well, certainly no one could accuse this ex-political-boss of Mad Monk
Abbott of ever being a champion of facts, logic, the truth and humanism.
She has always been a master of political slander and misrepresentation.
Basically all here propaganda assertions are either made up from
red-herring constructs or plain old strawmen or both at the same time.

Every right minded Brit .... blah... yawn!

Nope! I won't bite! I am not interested in consuming your your red
herrings nor your strawmen, Petz dear!

I could not give a flying fuck about your desperate attempt at derailing
this started topic.
I raised an issue that was relevant to *Australian* current affairs
politics. If you want to discuss something else then start your own
fucking thread!

The fact remains that religious extremism (within all sky-fairy
denominations) is a typical far-right ultra conservative phenomenon,
thus it is up your and your deplorable ilk's alley and not anywhere near centrist let alone leftist politics.

So kindly keep your brain dead Xtian fundamentalist Islamophobic rants
to yourself.
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Rod Speed"

/snip lots of idiotic Petz crap/

<reams of your steaming turd's AI shit flushed where it belongs>

Labour Party a United Kingdom Muslim political party.

Alt-right Xtian fundamentalist Islamophobic anti Labour GoonBag juice
enhanced Petz phantasms, pure and simple!
*FLUSH*

Labor Party a Australian Muslim political party

Alt-right Xtian fundamentalist Islamophobic anti Labor GoonBag juice
enhanced Petz phantasm, pure and simple!
*FLUSH*
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2026 03:03:13 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Every right minded Brit believes the Labour Party is a Jihadist
sympathiser,

Must be why Labour won the July 2024 election in a landslide

Labour consider Muslim voters a Labor voting bloc.

Must be why Labour has been slashing the immigration
of muslims and has been increasing the time that immigrants
get to wait before they get to vote

<reams of your steaming turd's AI shit flushed where it belongs>

Labour Party a United Kingdom Muslim political party.

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

So shopping bags of cash going from Chinese and Arab Lobby to Labor
Party headquarters is not suspicious? https://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/newsletter/issue59/aero.html

United Kingdom headquarters
146 Park Rd, London NW8 7RG, UK
https://tinyurl.com/54nt6k28

Labor Party a Australian Muslim political party
Australian headquarters
Lakemba Mosque (Masjid Ali Bin Abi Talib)
67 Wangee Road, Lakemba,NSW, 2195
https://tinyurl.com/y45wbtzx

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

So shopping bags of cash going from Chinese and Arab Lobby to Labor
Party headquarters is not suspicious? https://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/newsletter/issue59/aero.html

--
Petzl
The original Labor movement was built by tradespeople, miners, railway
workers, and factory handsupeople who knew what a hard day's physical
work felt like..
Today, that base has largely been replaced by a professional political
class
.1. The Death of the "Blue-Collar" Politician
In the mid-to-late 20th century, a Labor MP was highly likely to have
come straight from a shop floor or a trade..
Today, a vast majority of Labor/Labour politicians in Australia and
New Zealand follow a very specific, insular career path..
The Pipeline:
They go straight from university to working as a political staffer,
then move into a role as a trade union official, and finally enter
parliament..
The Missing Link:
They have never run a business, never had to worry about making
commercial payroll, and have never worked a competitive job in the
private sector
.2. The Rise of the "Professional Class
When modern Labor parties do recruit from outside politics, they tend
to pull from a very narrow pool of white-collar professionals, which
explains observation about "failed lawyers".
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Every right minded Brit believes the Labour Party is a Jihadist
sympathiser,

Must be why Labour won the July 2024 election in a landslide

Labour consider Muslim voters a Labor voting bloc.

Must be why Labour has been slashing the immigration
of muslims and has been increasing the time that immigrants
get to wait before they get to vote

<reams of your steaming turd's AI shit flushed where it belongs>

Labour Party a United Kingdom Muslim political party.

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

So shopping bags of cash going from Chinese and Arab Lobby to Labor
Party headquarters is not suspicious?

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

https://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/newsletter/issue59/aero.html

Nothing to do with your stupid claim about what happens in Britain

United Kingdom headquarters
146 Park Rd, London NW8 7RG, UK
https://tinyurl.com/54nt6k28

Labor Party a Australian Muslim political party
Australian headquarters
Lakemba Mosque (Masjid Ali Bin Abi Talib)
67 Wangee Road, Lakemba,NSW, 2195
https://tinyurl.com/y45wbtzx

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

So shopping bags of cash going from Chinese and Arab Lobby to Labor
Party headquarters is not suspicious?

Nothing to do with your stupid claim about the Lakemba Mosque

https://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/newsletter/issue59/aero.html

He's no MUSLIM, fuckwit
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2026 15:35:15 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Every right minded Brit believes the Labour Party is a Jihadist
sympathiser,

Must be why Labour won the July 2024 election in a landslide

Labour consider Muslim voters a Labor voting bloc.

Must be why Labour has been slashing the immigration
of muslims and has been increasing the time that immigrants
get to wait before they get to vote

<reams of your steaming turd's AI shit flushed where it belongs>

Labour Party a United Kingdom Muslim political party.

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

So shopping bags of cash going from Chinese and Arab Lobby to Labor
Party headquarters is not suspicious?

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

https://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/newsletter/issue59/aero.html

Nothing to do with your stupid claim about what happens in Britain

You are the une who brought UK Labour up.

United Kingdom headquarters
146 Park Rd, London NW8 7RG, UK
https://tinyurl.com/54nt6k28

Labor Party a Australian Muslim political party
Australian headquarters
Lakemba Mosque (Masjid Ali Bin Abi Talib)
67 Wangee Road, Lakemba,NSW, 2195
https://tinyurl.com/y45wbtzx

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

So shopping bags of cash going from Chinese and Arab Lobby to Labor
Party headquarters is not suspicious?

Nothing to do with your stupid claim about the Lakemba Mosque

https://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/newsletter/issue59/aero.html

He's no MUSLIM, fuckwit

Labor changed directions under Gough Whitlam, he was found to be
removing ties to USA and Britain's orbit moving towards that of the
Communist and Third World powers, with strong support for the "Arab
lobby", Britain and USA
Read in full here
https://is.gd/IzhkxL
When Gough Whitlam's Labor Party was elected to government of the
Commonwealth of Australia in December 1972, Whitlam sought to
completely change the direction of Australia's foreign policy, moving
from the United States' orbit towards that of the Communist and Third
World powers.

--
Petzl
Labors Cultural Marxism aims
1. The creation of racism offenses.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
5. Huge immigration and multiculturalism to destroy a countries
identity.
6. The promotion of drug taking (while pretending it is bad)
7. Emptying of churches
(Only the Christian churches as the underlying basis of our society is
Judaeo Christian) Other religions are to be promoted and protected.
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime (Soft sentencing, revolving doors, more concern for the welfare of criminals
than victims)
9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family by:
(a) Attack the authority of the father.
(b) deny the specific roles of father and mother.
(c) Wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of
their children.
(d) Abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
(e) Abolish all forms of male dominance
(f) Declare women to be an 'oppressed class' and men as 'oppressors'
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Every right minded Brit believes the Labour Party is a Jihadist
sympathiser,

Must be why Labour won the July 2024 election in a landslide

Labour consider Muslim voters a Labor voting bloc.

Must be why Labour has been slashing the immigration
of muslims and has been increasing the time that immigrants
get to wait before they get to vote

<reams of your steaming turd's AI shit flushed where it belongs>

Labour Party a United Kingdom Muslim political party.

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

So shopping bags of cash going from Chinese and Arab Lobby to Labor
Party headquarters is not suspicious?

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

https://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/newsletter/issue59/aero.html

Nothing to do with your stupid claim about what happens in Britain

You are the une who brought UK Labour up.

You are the one that posted that shit about the UK

United Kingdom headquarters
146 Park Rd, London NW8 7RG, UK
https://tinyurl.com/54nt6k28

Labor Party a Australian Muslim political party
Australian headquarters
Lakemba Mosque (Masjid Ali Bin Abi Talib)
67 Wangee Road, Lakemba,NSW, 2195
https://tinyurl.com/y45wbtzx

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

So shopping bags of cash going from Chinese and Arab Lobby to Labor
Party headquarters is not suspicious?

Nothing to do with your stupid claim about the Lakemba Mosque

https://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/newsletter/issue59/aero.html

He's no MUSLIM, fuckwit

Labor changed directions under Gough Whitlam,

But never had anything different to do about MUSLIMS

he was found to be

There never ever was any 'found to be'

removing ties to USA and Britain's orbit moving towards that of the
Communist

Recognizing china is nothing even remotely like that

and Third World powers,

No such animal

with strong support for the "Arab lobby",

Never did anything of the sort and again, no such animal

Britain and USA

And you get to like that or lump it

Read in full here
https://is.gd/IzhkxL

Just because some fuckwit claims something...

When Gough Whitlam's Labor Party was elected to government of the Commonwealth of Australia in December 1972, Whitlam sought to
completely change the direction of Australia's foreign policy,

Complete bullshit on the complete claim

moving
from the United States' orbit towards that of the Communist and Third
World powers.

More complete bullshit

And that fuckwit only lasted 3 fucking years
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2026 19:19:18 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

When Gough Whitlam's Labor Party was elected to government of the
Commonwealth of Australia in December 1972, Whitlam sought to
completely change the direction of Australia's foreign policy,

Complete bullshit on the complete claim

moving
from the United States' orbit towards that of the Communist and Third
World powers.

More complete bullshit

OH?
The 1974u1975 Loans Affair involved the Whitlam Labor government
bypassing traditional financial channels to seek $4 billion in
"petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources, causing a major political
scandal.
This incident, along with efforts to foster a more self-reliant
foreign policy independent of US-British influence, marked a
significant, controversial shift in Australian foreign policy. Read
more about the scandal at WhitlamDismissal.com.

Now Albanese Labors turn.
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/snip/

OH?

OH it is, Petz dear!
I supposed you had time to reinforce your terminal Labor Derangement
Syndrome with a couple of additional GoonBags, eh?

The 1974rCo1975 Loans Affair involved the Whitlam Labor government
bypassing traditional financial channels to seek $4 billion in
"petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources, causing a major political scandal.

BULLSHIT!

This incident, along with efforts to foster a more self-reliant
foreign policy independent of US-British influence, marked a
significant, controversial shift in Australian foreign policy.

Ahem! Your lovely attempt at revisionism is sadly not very original.

BTW you are posting about things most of us in this newsgroup actually
lived through and not just read some bias crap somewhere on the subject.

At that time the UK has just decided to shit on all of its ex-colonies
and just concentrate on the European market place.

As to seppos, it was already quite obvious to all who could think that
the US was NO friend of OZ when it came to flexing its economic muscles.
They have always looked upon us as just another dumb country that they
could fully dominate and exploit with ease!

Thank goodness, Whitlam understood that quite well at the time. All of
our close neighbours were developing economically quite fast and hence
offered a much more lucrative and more equitable business opportunity
that those rabid seppo robber-baron capitalists who wanted (still want)
to dominate the whole planet at everyone else's detriment.
No wonder that they played an clandestine active role in manipulating Australian public opinion turning it against Labor. Your media magnate
idol Murdoch happily did all sorts of dirty deeds to speed up this process.

Read
more about the scandal at WhitlamDismissal.com.

I respect my own sanity more that to damage it permanently by any sort
of revisionist concocted rubbish.

Now Albanese Labors turn.

Only in your GoonBagged wet dreams, Petz dear!
Your pathetic orange-shit copycat fish&chips auntie will turn out to be
a great disappointment both for those greedy bastard
millionaire/billionaire class crooks who finance her current political
antics and also for you and your alt-right hate rage filled lowlife ilk.

:-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

When Gough Whitlam's Labor Party was elected to government of the
Commonwealth of Australia in December 1972, Whitlam sought to
completely change the direction of Australia's foreign policy,

Complete bullshit on the completely claim

moving
from the United States' orbit towards that of the Communist and Third
World powers.

More complete bullshit

OH?

Fraid so

The 1974rCo1975 Loans Affair involved the Whitlam Labor government
bypassing traditional financial channels to seek $4 billion in
"petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources,

Which was neither Communist nor a Third World power
And didn't happen

causing a major political scandal.

More complete bullshit

This incident, along with efforts to foster a more self-reliant
foreign policy independent of US-British influence, markeda > significant, controversial shift in Australian foreign policy.

But was nothing even remotely like completely
change the direction of Australia's foreign policy,

Read more about the scandal at WhitlamDismissal.com.

He was sacked because he couldn't get supply thru
the senate and stupidly tried to monster Kerr

Now Albanese Labors turn.

Nothing even remotely like it in fact
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On Mon, 03 Aug 2026 10:45:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

The 1974u1975 Loans Affair involved the Whitlam Labor government
bypassing traditional financial channels to seek $4 billion in
"petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources,

Which was neither Communist nor a Third World power

And didn't happen

https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_a0c8fa00-36bb-46a2-90dd-3fcde2e8d944
Whitlam Labor government bypassing traditional financial channels to
seek $4 billion in "petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources, causing
a major political scandal.
The Loans Affair (also known as the Khemlani affair), a major
political scandal that damaged the Whitlam Labor government in
Australia in 1974u75.
Under Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, Minerals and Energy Minister Rex
Connor sought to raise a large overseas loanuinitially authorised at
around US$4 billionufrom Middle Eastern sources flush with
opetrodollarso after the 1973u74 oil price surge.
The funds were intended for major national development projects, such
as a natural gas pipeline, railway electrification, and a uranium
enrichment plant.
Instead of using conventional channels (the Australian Treasury, the
Loan Council, and established American/European markets), the
government worked through intermediaries, notably the London-based
Pakistani commodities trader Tirath Khemlani (introduced via Adelaide businessman Gerry Karidis and others).
On 13 December 1974, an Executive Council meeting (attended by
Whitlam, Connor, Treasurer Jim Cairns, and Attorney-General Lionel
Murphy) authorised Connor to seek the loan for otemporary purposes,o a
phrasing that allowed it to bypass the Loan Council.
No loan was ever secured, and no commissions were paid. However, the
unorthodox and secretive approach, opposition from Treasury, and later revelations that Connor continued contacts with Khemlani after his
authority was revoked (and that Cairns had signed a letter involving a commission) led to both ministers misleading Parliament.
Both were forced from the ministry.
The scandal seriously damaged the governmentAs credibility, was
heavily used by the Opposition under Malcolm Fraser, and formed part
of the background to the 1975 constitutional crisis (including the
blocking of supply in the Senate and WhitlamAs dismissal by
Governor-General Sir John Kerr).
It is widely regarded as a key episode of political and administrative misjudgment rather than outright corruption involving actual funds.
--
Petzl
"Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists
The people representing those parties are selected by lobbyists.

Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
ThatAs the modern legislative business of parliament.

When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
countries we call it bribery.
However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
we call it lobbying.
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

The 1974rCo1975 Loans Affair involved the Whitlam Labor government
bypassing traditional financial channels to seek $4 billion in
"petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources,

Which was neither Communist nor a Third World power
And didn't happen

https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_a0c8fa00-36bb-46a2-90dd-3fcde2e8d944> Whitlam Labor government bypassing traditional financial channels to
seek $4 billion in "petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources, causing> a major political scandal.

But like I said, never got a cent
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On Mon, 03 Aug 2026 12:57:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

The 1974u1975 Loans Affair involved the Whitlam Labor government
bypassing traditional financial channels to seek $4 billion in
"petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources,

Which was neither Communist nor a Third World power

And didn't happen

https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_a0c8fa00-36bb-46a2-90dd-3fcde2e8d944
Whitlam Labor government bypassing traditional financial channels to
seek $4 billion in "petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources, causing
a major political scandal.

But like I said, never got a cent

Not for the want of trying!

However, theunorthodox and secretive approach, opposition from
Treasury, and later revelations that Connor continued contacts with
Khemlani after his authority was revoked (and that Cairns had signed a
letter involving acommission) led to both ministers misleading
Parliament.
Both were forced from the ministry.

The scandal seriously damaged the governmentAs credibility, was
heavily used by the Opposition under Malcolm Fraser, and formed part
of the background to the 1975 constitutional crisis (including the
blocking of supply in the Senate and WhitlamAs dismissal by
Governor-General Sir John Kerr).
It is widely regarded as a key episode of political and administrative misjudgment rather than outright corruption involving actual funds.
--
Petzl
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot
survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable,
for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves
amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling
through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself
For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar
to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he
appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He
rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night
to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so
that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.

- Marcus Tullius Cicero

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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

The 1974rCo1975 Loans Affair involved the Whitlam Labor government
bypassing traditional financial channels to seek $4 billion in
"petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources,

Which was neither Communist nor a Third World power
And didn't happen

https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_a0c8fa00-36bb-46a2-90dd-3fcde2e8d944
Whitlam Labor government bypassing traditional financial channels to>>> seek $4 billion in "petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources, causing
a major political scandal.

But like I said, never got a cent

Not for the want of trying!

It was never going to deliver a cent

However, the unorthodox and secretive approach,

Nothing secretive about it

opposition from
Treasury, and later revelations that Connor continued contacts with
Khemlani after his authority was revoked (and that Cairns had signed a> letter involving acommission) led to both ministers misleading
Parliament. Both were forced from the ministry.
The scandal seriously damaged the governmentrCOs credibility, was
heavily used by the Opposition under Malcolm Fraser, and formed part
of the background to the 1975 constitutional crisis

That was entirely due to Bjelke Peterson replacing
two labor no longer senators with non labor senators
so that conservatives had a majority in the senate

(including the
blocking of supply in the Senate and WhitlamrCOs dismissal by Governor-General Sir John Kerr).

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On 2/08/2026 2:10 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Sun, 02 Aug 2026 03:03:13 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Every right minded Brit believes the Labour Party is a Jihadist
sympathiser,

Must be why Labour won the July 2024 election in a landslide

Labour consider Muslim voters a Labor voting bloc.

Must be why Labour has been slashing the immigration
of muslims and has been increasing the time that immigrants
get to wait before they get to vote

<reams of your steaming turd's AI shit flushed where it belongs>

Labour Party a United Kingdom Muslim political party.

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

So shopping bags of cash going from Chinese and Arab Lobby to Labor
Party headquarters is not suspicious? https://www.icac.nsw.gov.au/newsletter/issue59/aero.html

.... from June, 2022, so you are right up-to-date there, Petzl!
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On 3/08/2026 9:00 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:

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OH?

OH it is, Petz dear! I supposed you had time to reinforce your
terminal Labor Derangement Syndrome with a couple of additional
GoonBags, eh?

The 1974rCo1975 Loans Affair involved the Whitlam Labor government
bypassing traditional financial channels to seek $4 billion in
"petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources, causing a major
political scandal.

BULLSHIT!

This incident, along with efforts to foster a more self-reliant
foreign policy independent of US-British influence, marked a
significant, controversial shift in Australian foreign policy.

Ahem! Your lovely attempt at revisionism is sadly not very original.

BTW you are posting about things most of us in this newsgroup
actually lived through and not just read some bias crap somewhere on
the subject.

At that time the UK has just decided to shit on all of its
ex-colonies and just concentrate on the European market place.

As to seppos, it was already quite obvious to all who could think
that the US was NO friend of OZ when it came to flexing its economic
muscles. They have always looked upon us as just another dumb country
that they could fully dominate and exploit with ease!

We were the U.S.' muscle in South Asia.
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On 3/08/2026 12:25 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Mon, 03 Aug 2026 10:45:21 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

The 1974rCo1975 Loans Affair involved the Whitlam Labor government
bypassing traditional financial channels to seek $4 billion in
"petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources,

Which was neither Communist nor a Third World power

And didn't happen

https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_a0c8fa00-36bb-46a2-90dd-3fcde2e8d944 Whitlam Labor government bypassing traditional financial channels to
seek $4 billion in "petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources, causing
a major political scandal.

$4 Billion!! Now-a-Days we're burrowing, what, $400 Billion!!
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On Mon, 03 Aug 2026 19:38:30 +1000, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 3/08/2026 9:00 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:

# /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/ # /All quoted
inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/
/snip/

OH?

OH it is, Petz dear! I supposed you had time to reinforce your
terminal Labor Derangement Syndrome with a couple of additional
GoonBags, eh?

The 1974rCo1975 Loans Affair involved the Whitlam Labor government >>> bypassing traditional financial channels to seek $4 billion in >>> "petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources, causing a major
political scandal.

BULLSHIT!

This incident, along with efforts to foster a more self-reliant >>> foreign policy independent of US-British influence, marked a >>> significant, controversial shift in Australian foreign policy.

Ahem! Your lovely attempt at revisionism is sadly not very original.>> BTW you are posting about things most of us in this newsgroup
actually lived through and not just read some bias crap somewhere on
the subject.
At that time the UK has just decided to shit on all of its
ex-colonies and just concentrate on the European market place.
As to seppos, it was already quite obvious to all who could think
that the US was NO friend of OZ when it came to flexing its economic
muscles. They have always looked upon us as just another dumb country>> that they could fully dominate and exploit with ease!

We were the U.S.' muscle in South Asia.

Bullshit with Vietnam
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Daniel70

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OH?

OH it is, Petz dear! I supposed you had time to reinforce your
terminal Labor Derangement Syndrome with a couple of additional
GoonBags, eh?

The 1974rCo1975 Loans Affair involved the Whitlam Labor government
bypassing traditional financial channels to seek $4 billion in
"petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources, causing a major
political scandal.

BULLSHIT!

This incident, along with efforts to foster a more self-reliant
foreign policy independent of US-British influence, marked a
significant, controversial shift in Australian foreign policy.

Ahem! Your lovely attempt at revisionism is sadly not very original.

BTW you are posting about things most of us in this newsgroup
actually lived through and not just read some bias crap somewhere on
the subject.

At that time the UK has just decided to shit on all of its
ex-colonies and just concentrate on the European market place.

As to seppos, it was already quite obvious to all who could think
that the US was NO friend of OZ when it came to flexing its economic
muscles. They have always looked upon us as just another dumb country
that they could fully dominate and exploit with ease!

We were the U.S.' muscle in South Asia.

Well, certainly we were a very faithfully duty bound tool for the US empire.
Of course, with time the following burning question could not be ignored
any more:
What did that subservient attitude actually bring for us in return?
Our diligent bootlicker status and the self-assumed role of a deputy
sheriff certainly did fuck all for the average Australian battlers
anywhere in the country while our rightwing politicians served up on a
silver platter significant segments of our economy to the seppos for the taking. Lying rodent gnome Howard's so called free trade deal with the
US was absolutely lopsided in favour of the US. And now even that deal
doesn't seem to be enough for the current orange regime in Washington DC.
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Alzheimer Rod

Daniel70

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OH?

-aOH it is, Petz dear! I supposed you had time to reinforce your
terminal Labor Derangement Syndrome with a couple of additional
GoonBags, eh?

The 1974rCo1975 Loans Affair involved the Whitlam Labor government
bypassing traditional financial channels to seek $4 billion in
"petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources, causing a major
political scandal.

-aBULLSHIT!

This incident, along with efforts to foster a more self-reliant
foreign policy independent of US-British influence, marked a
significant, controversial shift in Australian foreign policy.

-aAhem! Your lovely attempt at revisionism is sadly not very original.
-aBTW you are posting about things most of us in this newsgroup
actually lived through and not just read some bias crap somewhere on
the subject.
-aAt that time the UK has just decided to shit on all of its
ex-colonies and just concentrate on the European market place.
-aAs to seppos, it was already quite obvious to all who could think
that the US was NO friend of OZ when it came to flexing its economic
muscles. They have always looked upon us as just another dumb country
that they could fully dominate and exploit with ease!

We were the U.S.' muscle in South Asia.

Bullshit with Vietnam

We have been and apparently still are a self-sacrificing tool for the
glory of the US empire. Although from a rational point of view we had absolutely no business doing any sort of self assumed canon fodder role
for the seppos after the end of the World War 2! Yet we certainly kept
doing it more than just once! This has to end!
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On Tue, 04 Aug 2026 04:20:47 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

The 1974u1975 Loans Affair involved the Whitlam Labor government
bypassing traditional financial channels to seek $4 billion in
"petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources, causing a major
political scandal.

BULLSHIT!

This incident, along with efforts to foster a more self-reliant
foreign policy independent of US-British influence, marked a
significant, controversial shift in Australian foreign policy.

Ahem! Your lovely attempt at revisionism is sadly not very original.
BTW you are posting about things most of us in this newsgroup
actually lived through and not just read some bias crap somewhere on
the subject.
At that time the UK has just decided to shit on all of its
ex-colonies and just concentrate on the European market place.
As to seppos, it was already quite obvious to all who could think
that the US was NO friend of OZ when it came to flexing its economic
muscles. They have always looked upon us as just another dumb country
that they could fully dominate and exploit with ease!

We were the U.S.' muscle in South Asia.

Bullshit with Vietnam

Gough Whitlam had Australia as the first countries remaining Army, to
flee Vietnam "war"
After winning office in December 1972, former Australian Labor prime
minister Gough Whitlam established diplomatic relations with the
Democratic Republic of Vietnam (DRV) in February 1973.

WhitlamAs government withdrew AustraliaAs remaining military advisers
from the Republic of Vietnam and ended military conscription. Whitlam
also distanced Australia from US Vietnam policy, establishing the
basis for a new relationship with Communist Vietnam.
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Petzl
Whitlam did not want anti-communists to settle in Australia,
irrespective of whether they were genuine asylum seekers. Here his
stance differed from the position he took following the overthrow of
Salvador Allende's left-wing government in Chile in 1973.

Whitlam said on the ABC that Australia did not want oanother
!reactionary right-wing minorityo. Foreign minister Don Willesee
pleaded with him to take more. Whitlam replied: oIAm not having those
f..king Vietnamese Balts coming into this country with their religious
and political prejudices against us.o

Whitlam opposed the entry of Vietnamese refugees, saying they stirred
no sympathy in him. He added: oThere will be some resentment about the
people coming to Australia at a time of unemployment, and also people
from a very different way of life.o

In other words, Whitlam consciously stirred up ethnic and racial
prejudice against Vietnamese !because he thought they might be
politically hostile to Labor.
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Gough Whitlam had Australia as the first countries remaining Army, to
flee Vietnam "war"
After winning office in December 1972, former Australian Labor prime
minister Gough Whitlam established diplomatic relations with the
Democratic Republic of Vietnam (DRV) in February 1973.

WhitlamrCOs government withdrew AustraliarCOs remaining military advisers from the Republic of Vietnam and ended military conscription. Whitlam
also distanced Australia from US Vietnam policy, establishing the
basis for a new relationship with Communist Vietnam.

Congratulation!

You have just confirmed Whitlam's excellent statesmanship in this
regard, Petz dear.
Yes, he had understood the overwhelming public opinion quite well and
had responded accordingly. It was an excellent move as history has
proven it since!

:-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P
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On Mon, 3 Aug 2026 19:41:52 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_a0c8fa00-36bb-46a2-90dd-3fcde2e8d944
Whitlam Labor government bypassing traditional financial channels to
seek $4 billion in "petrodollars" from Middle Eastern sources, causing
a major political scandal.

$4 Billion!! Now-a-Days we're burrowing, what, $400 Billion!!

Albanese Labors plan for a Chinese takeover.

Most of the billions are just thrown away,
Albanese Labor has run out of other peoples money, now setting place
to take from what you have
lead on macduff
Climate change boondoggles, causing China who makes them as well as
the Solar panels, probably the VERY expensive transmission lines that
connect to the main grin over farmers homes.
Earliest Australia will see the used last gen US Nuclear Submarines is
claimed in 2030 which is doubtful, more probably 2050 when the
Submarines will need a full refit which is more expensive than making
a new one.
Then we will need Scientists/Engineers/docks for these submarines
cost??
Which is now reckoned at over $500 billion has to include
infrastructure

Before committing further money, governments should publish legally
and financially credible answers to four questions:

What compensation would Australia receive if the US or UK withdrew?

Who bears the cost if the boats arrive late or require unexpectedly
extensive refits?

What minimum Collins capability will be retained if the Virginia
transfer fails?

At what cost and under what conditions could Australia exit?

The fact that the treaty allows withdrawal on one yearAs notice, while Australia may spend decades building its side of the system, shows
that the political and financial risks are not evenly distributed.

Scientists and engineers
The workforce problem is probably more serious than the public debate
suggests. UNSW nuclear-engineering expert Edward Obbard estimated that
support for the expanded AUKUS submarine enterprise could require:

more than 200 senior nuclear subject-matter experts, ideally with
around 20 years of experience;

approximately 4,300 experienced professionals in the middle tier,
including engineers, scientists, technical managers, reactor operators
and health physicists;

4,000u5,000 nuclear-aware trades people, including welders, machinists
and fitters.
unsw

That is more than simply recruiting nuclear engineers. Australia would
need an entire safety and regulatory ecosystem covering:

naval nuclear propulsion engineering;

mechanical, electrical and control systems;

metallurgy and weld certification;

radiation protection and health physics;

reactor chemistry and materials degradation;

nuclear safety analysis;

quality assurance and configuration management;

cybersecurity and classified-information protection;

radioactive-waste management;

emergency planning and independent regulation.

Australia has very limited relevant experience: the OPAL reactor at
Lucas Heights is the countryAs only operating nuclear reactor, and it
is a research reactor rather than a submarine-propulsion plant. UNSW
therefore judged that many experienced personnel would initially need
to come from the United States and United Kingdom, while Australians
gain experience through overseas training and placements
--
Petzl

Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
major depression, and two world wars.
Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote

$4 Billion!! Now-a-Days we're burrowing, what, $400 Billion!!

Albanese Labors plan for a Chinese takeover.

Mindless bullshit
China doesn't lend us anything

Most of the billions are just thrown away,
Albanese Labor has run out of other peoples money,

More mindless bullshit

now setting place to take from what you have

More mindless bullshit

Climate change boondoggles, causing China who makes them as well as
the Solar panels, probably the VERY expensive transmission lines that
connect to the main grin over farmers homes.

That isnt happening

Earliest Australia will see the used last gen US Nuclear Submarines is> claimed in 2030 which is doubtful, more probably 2050 when the
Submarines will need a full refit which is more expensive than making
a new one.

More mindless bullshit

Then we will need Scientists/Engineers/docks for these submarines
cost??
Which is now reckoned at over $500 billion has to include
infrastructure

And it remains to be seen if Trump just pulls the plug on it

Before committing further money, governments should publish legally
and financially credible answers to four questions:

Never happens, no matter how much fools stamp
their foot and isnt even possible anyway

What compensation would Australia receive if the US or UK withdrew?

None, zero, nada and wouldn't even get the money
already shipped to the USA back and none of that
is due to Albo, its due to ScoMo

Who bears the cost if the boats arrive late or require unexpectedly
extensive refits?

We do

What minimum Collins capability will be retained if the Virginia
transfer fails?

No need for any subs

At what cost and under what conditions could Australia exit?

Just decide to exit and lose what has already been spent

The fact that the treaty allows withdrawal on one yearrCOs notice, while Australia may spend decades building its side of the system, shows
that the political and financial risks are not evenly distributed.

Wota surprise, and all due to ScoMo
<reams more shit flushed where it belongs>
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On Tue, 04 Aug 2026 10:48:35 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

What minimum Collins capability will be retained if the Virginia
transfer fails?

No need for any subs

That I agree, Australia cannot afford the "deal" which won't be
achieved till 2050 or even later.

At what cost and under what conditions could Australia exit?

Just decide to exit and lose what has already been spent

In fact may cost more than what we have spent, the French were paid a
$billion for not doing a single thing towards a submarine for
Australia, not even as much as a rubbish bucket for the details they
could not even evidence of doing that (probably dunny flushed).

The fact that the treaty allows withdrawal on one yearAs notice, while
Australia may spend decades building its side of the system, shows
that the political and financial risks are not evenly distributed.

Wota surprise, and all due to ScoMo

But still a idiot, why do PM's trust France, like Keating, Turnbull.
Come on One Nation.
You have your bridge worked out to die under?
Will Griffith be provided soup kitchens under Albanese Labor
Government?
A photo of some
https://tinyurl.com/5n6zk8nk
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Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
major depression, and two world wars.
Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

What minimum Collins capability will be retained if the Virginia
transfer fails?

No need for any subs

That I agree, Australia cannot afford the "deal" which won't be
achieved till 2050 or even later.

There is no point in any subs at any price

At what cost and under what conditions could Australia exit?

Just decide to exit and lose what has already been spent

In fact may cost more than what we have spent, the French were paid a $billion for not doing a single thing towards a submarine for
Australia, not even as much as a rubbish bucket for the details they
could not even evidence of doing that (probably dunny flushed).

The fact that the treaty allows withdrawal on one yearrCOs notice, while >>> Australia may spend decades building its side of the system, shows
that the political and financial risks are not evenly distributed.

Wota surprise, and all due to ScoMo

But still a idiot, why do PM's trust France, like Keating, Turnbull.
Come on One Nation.

Those clowns are irrelevant and she was jailed for a reason

You have your bridge worked out to die under?

Don't need one

Will Griffith be provided soup kitchens under Albanese Labor
Government?

Won't need any
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