• Re: ot: Vic polotics.... Jacinta Alien to go against the wall.....

    From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 09:28:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Noddy <me@home.com> wrote
    lindsay wrote
    Noddy wrote

    Buying bulk popcorn... :-)>

    Lol :)

    Tomorrow's going to be a great day :)

    apparently, it all begins at 10.00am
    Cint the Bint has already threatened a scorched earth policy where the
    labor party will be rudderless for up to 30 days, 4 months out from an
    election...

    Surprisingly, havent a peep from Dictator Dan...

    Yes. Sounds like they're going to totally implode, and I for one could
    not be happier about that. Allen knows that being arseholed will end her political career, and she's the kind of cunt that if she goes down
    she'll drag the whole lot of them with her.

    Bet that doesn't happen if she does go down

    Happy days!!

    They are indeed. With any luck this will be the total and irremediable
    end of the Labor party in Victoria :)

    Yhat never happens with one of the two majors
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 11:24:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Noddy <me@home.com> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Noddy <me@home.com> wrote

    According to the wife, sources from the department of Premier and
    Cabinet have claimed that the only reason she resigned this morning
    was in exchange for party approval for an as yet unnamed successor to
    be given the job, and that successor is *not* Ben Carroll.

    The party and them don't get to decide who replaces Allen if more
    than Carroll chooses to run and he has already said that he will

    You clearly have no idea how political leaders are picked.

    You have no fucking idea how victorian labour decides who will
    be the leader if more than one chooses to stand for leadership

    Best you just keep quiet.

    Best you go and fuck yourself again
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 11:37:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Axel <none@not.here> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
    Daryl wrote
    Noddy wrote
    Daryl wrote
    Noddy wrote

    It's going to get ugly, and the best part about that is that all >>>>>>> the Libs have to do is sit back and have it handed to them :)

    It certainly looks like Labor is going to be ousted and not before >>>>>> time, the real unknown is how much of a difference ON will make or >>>>>> how big a margin the Coalition will have.

    I think ON's pan has already flashed. Hanson is getting shit all
    over her shoes every time she opens her racist gob, and their party >>>>> structure is a mess. I mean, they have *one* MP in Victoria, and
    haven't even nominated a party leader here with 4 months till the
    election.

    They're useless :)

    Sure seems that way, all smoke and mirrors with very little substance.

    Well, Allen has resigned, it's official. Well, on 9 news anyway.

    And its not just 9 news
    https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_656641bc-5409-4f0a-b2a9-d7d265554111

    It will be interesting to see if they have
    enough of a clue to not have a full contest
    for the replacement this close to the election

    apparently they don't, if the rumors of a contest from Sonya Kilkenny
    are accurate

    Its not just a rumor, its a fact now

    But it will be interesting to see if she gets monstered into changing
    her mind or if those fuckwits actually are stupid enough to have the
    whole shit fight so close to the election

    I hope they do myself given that that would certainly make it much
    harder to win the state election which would be a good thing
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  • From Axel@none@not.here to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 11:45:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Rod Speed wrote:
    Axel <none@not.here> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
    Daryl wrote
    Noddy wrote
    Daryl wrote
    Noddy wrote

    It's going to get ugly, and the best part about that is that
    all the Libs have to do is sit back and have it handed to them :)

    It certainly looks like Labor is going to be ousted and not
    before time, the real unknown is how much of a difference ON
    will make or how big a margin the Coalition will have.

    I think ON's pan has already flashed. Hanson is getting shit all
    over her shoes every time she opens her racist gob, and their
    party structure is a mess. I mean, they have *one* MP in
    Victoria, and haven't even nominated a party leader here with 4
    months till the election.

    They're useless :)

    Sure seems that way, all smoke and mirrors with very little
    substance.

    Well, Allen has resigned, it's official. Well, on 9 news anyway.

    And its not just 9 news
    https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_656641bc-5409-4f0a-b2a9-d7d265554111

    It will be interesting to see if they have
    enough of a clue to not have a full contest
    for the replacement this close to the election

    apparently they don't, if the rumors of a contest from Sonya Kilkenny
    are accurate

    Its not just a rumor, its a fact now

    But it will be interesting to see if she gets monstered into changing
    her mind or if those fuckwits actually are stupid enough to have the
    whole shit fight so close to the election

    I hope they do myself given that that would certainly make it much
    harder to win the state election which would be a good thing

    precisely
    --
    Linux Mint 22.3

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 11:48:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Axel <none@not.here> wrote
    Xeno wrote
    Axel wrote
    Xeno wrote
    Axel wrote
    lindsay wrote

    (from ABC news website)

    Four months out from the state election, Premier Jacinta Allan is >>>>>> facing a leadership challenge.

    Factional powerbrokers met on Sunday night to discuss whether Ms >>>>>> Allan maintains the support of the caucus, and agreed she does not.

    What's next?

    It is understood Ms Allan will be offered the opportunity to resign >>>>>> on Monday, and if she refuses, is expected to face a leadership
    challenge on Tuesday.

    Personally, I'd like her to hang on till the election, so I can
    laugh at her as the leader of the biggest mess ever to ruin
    Victoria.

    yes I want to see her kicked out by Victorian voters

    Her and Daniel Andrews need an appointment with a judge and jury. >>>>>> And a public stoning.

    you bet!

    I'll remind you that Victorians voted for their government.

    https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/10203-victorian-state-voting-
    intention-april-2026

    I don't need reminding. we're all living with the consequences of that >>> stupid decision by Victorian voters. Hopefully, this time the
    electorate will not be so stupid, or we're well and truly down the
    gurgler!

    If you look around you, there will be nothing better in sight. The Libs
    are well and truly down the gurgler.

    they're in the best position to govern since they've been in opposition
    now that Jess Wilson is in charge

    Dunno given the stupid shit fight about Deeming

    Tho its far from clear how many of the voters are even aware of that

    What's it been now, 12 years of Labor? If the Libs haven't managed to
    stage a comeback by now after 12 years on the opposition benches, then
    I see no future for them.

    except the situation in Victoria is now so dire voters will grasp at any straw to be rid of this Labor govt

    We'll see...

    They have much deeper issues than what is apparent, especially since
    Labor has been elected 3 times already and they aren't even polling
    badly now.

    check the latest polls

    I don't buy polls https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=rp66p66c&dl=0


    I also don't see a long term future for ON surviving as they are on the
    politics of division.
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  • From Noddy@me@home.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 12:43:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 28/07/2026 11:24 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    Noddy <me@home.com> wrote

    -aThe party and them don't get to decide who replaces Allen if more
    than Carroll chooses to run and he has already said that he will

    You clearly have no idea how political leaders are picked.

    You have no fucking idea how victorian labour decides who will
    be the leader if more than one chooses to stand for leadership

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. You've been posting on Usenet for what,
    30 years now? And you're *still* as dumb as a dogshit sandwich.

    Just fuck off back to wherever that other imbecile Felix dragged you in from....
    --
    --
    --
    Regards,
    Noddy.
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  • From Xeno@xenolith@optusnet.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 12:50:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics



    On 28/7/2026 12:43 pm, Noddy wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 11:24 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    Noddy <me@home.com> wrote

    -aThe party and them don't get to decide who replaces Allen if more
    than Carroll chooses to run and he has already said that he will

    You clearly have no idea how political leaders are picked.

    You have no fucking idea how victorian labour decides who will
    be the leader if more than one chooses to stand for leadership

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. You've been posting on Usenet for what,
    30 years now? And you're *still* as dumb as a dogshit sandwich.

    This from the bloke who's been lying his arse off ever since he arrived
    here *decades ago*. Only you would think of making a dogshit sandwich.>
    Just fuck off back to wherever that other imbecile Felix dragged you in from....

    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Daryl@dwalford@westpine.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 12:56:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 28/7/2026 11:48 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    Axel <none@not.here> wrote
    Xeno wrote
    Axel wrote
    Xeno wrote
    Axel wrote
    lindsay wrote

    (from ABC news website)

    Four months out from the state election, Premier Jacinta Allan is >>>>>>> facing a leadership challenge.

    Factional powerbrokers met on Sunday night to discuss whether Ms >>>>>>> Allan maintains the support of the caucus, and agreed she does not.

    What's next?

    It is understood Ms Allan will be offered the opportunity to
    resign on Monday, and if she refuses, is expected to face a
    leadership challenge on Tuesday.

    Personally, I'd like her to hang on till the election, so I can >>>>>>> laugh at her as the leader of the biggest mess ever to ruin
    Victoria.

    yes I want to see her kicked out by Victorian voters

    Her and Daniel Andrews need an appointment with a judge and jury. >>>>>>> And a public stoning.

    you bet!

    I'll remind you that Victorians voted for their government.

    https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/10203-victorian-state-voting-
    intention-april-2026

    I don't need reminding. we're all living with the consequences of
    that stupid decision by Victorian voters. Hopefully, this time the
    electorate will not be so stupid, or we're well and truly down the
    gurgler!

    If you look around you, there will be nothing better in sight. The
    Libs are well and truly down the gurgler.

    they're in the best position to govern since they've been in
    opposition now that Jess Wilson is in charge

    Dunno given the stupid shit fight about Deeming

    Pretty minor stuff compared to $15billion going missing and a state debt
    that is staggering beyond belief.


    Tho its far from clear how many of the voters are even aware of that

    Or if those that are aware care enough about an internal party dispute
    to change their vote.


    What's it been now, 12 years of Labor? If the Libs haven't managed to
    stage a comeback by now after 12 years on the opposition benches,
    then I see no future for them.

    except the situation in Victoria is now so dire voters will grasp at
    any straw to be rid of this Labor govt

    We'll see...

    As much as polls can be wrong its difficult to imagine Labor winning
    another term in Vic, stranger things have been known to happen but in
    this instance something would have to go very wrong for Labor to win.
    --
    Daryl
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 13:23:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
    Axel wrote
    Xeno wrote
    Axel wrote
    Xeno wrote
    Axel wrote
    lindsay wrote

    (from ABC news website)

    Four months out from the state election, Premier Jacinta Allan is >>>>>>> facing a leadership challenge.

    Factional powerbrokers met on Sunday night to discuss whether Ms >>>>>>> Allan maintains the support of the caucus, and agreed she does not. >>>>>>>
    What's next?
    It is understood Ms Allan will be offered the opportunity to
    resign on Monday, and if she refuses, is expected to face a
    leadership challenge on Tuesday.

    Personally, I'd like her to hang on till the election, so I can >>>>>>> laugh at her as the leader of the biggest mess ever to ruin
    Victoria.

    yes I want to see her kicked out by Victorian voters


    Her and Daniel Andrews need an appointment with a judge and jury. >>>>>>> And a public stoning.

    you bet!

    I'll remind you that Victorians voted for their government.

    https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/10203-victorian-state-voting-
    intention-april-2026


    I don't need reminding. we're all living with the consequences of
    that stupid decision by Victorian voters. Hopefully, this time the
    electorate will not be so stupid, or we're well and truly down the
    gurgler!

    If you look around you, there will be nothing better in sight. The
    Libs are well and truly down the gurgler.
    they're in the best position to govern since they've been in
    opposition now that Jess Wilson is in charge

    What's it been now, 12 years of Labor? If the Libs haven't managed to
    stage a comeback by now after 12 years on the opposition benches, then >>> I see no future for them.
    except the situation in Victoria is now so dire voters will grasp at
    any straw to be rid of this Labor govt

    They have much deeper issues than what is apparent, especially since
    Labor has been elected 3 times already and they aren't even polling
    badly now.
    check the latest polls

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    I also don't see a long term future for ON surviving as they are on
    the politics of division.


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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 13:26:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Noddy <me@home.com> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Noddy <me@home.com> wrote

    The party and them don't get to decide who replaces Allen if more
    than Carroll chooses to run and he has already said that he will

    You clearly have no idea how political leaders are picked.

    You have no fucking idea how victorian labour decides who will
    be the leader if more than one chooses to stand for leadership

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. You've been posting on Usenet for what,
    30 years now? And you're *still* as dumb as a dogshit sandwich.

    You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag

    Just fuck off back to wherever that other imbecile Felix dragged you in from....

    He never dragged me in from, I chose to see if
    there was any interesting posts in this group

    And again, go and fuck yourself
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  • From Clocky@notgonna@happen.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 11:29:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 28/07/2026 10:43 am, Noddy wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 11:24 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    Noddy <me@home.com> wrote

    -aThe party and them don't get to decide who replaces Allen if more
    than Carroll chooses to run and he has already said that he will

    You clearly have no idea how political leaders are picked.

    You have no fucking idea how victorian labour decides who will
    be the leader if more than one chooses to stand for leadership

    *Jesus* you're a fucking moron. You've been posting on Usenet for what,
    30 years now? And you're *still* as dumb as a dogshit sandwich.


    This from the dumbest of the dumb gronk who's whole life is a fabrication.
    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 15:01:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 13:23:35 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too >https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of
    latest polling. <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf
    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.
    --
    Petzl
    oThe Australian dream was hard, but was obtainable, you have to do the
    work. You have to roll your sleeves up and sacrifice.o
    But with "Labor"/"Greens," oitAs awhy do I have to do that when I can
    just take it from them?Ao

    oThereAs this illusion that quality of life is more important than
    work ethic.
    aI want it nowA and one groupAs telling them aYou donAt have to be
    educated, all you have to do is blame everything on somebody else and
    theyAll support you.A

    ItAs aWhy should I work when youAre saying I donAt have to!A
    There are more people willing to take a free lunch than go out and
    build the sandwich,o

    Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
    major depression, and two world wars.
    Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.

    Isn't it weird that in Australia, our flag and our culture offend so
    many people... but our benefits don't?
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 15:42:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 19:38:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 15:42:39 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit >https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit >https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    Your photo is of 2025 polls, it's now 2026
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  • From Daryl@dwalford@westpine.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 19:41:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've noticed over
    the years that RM polls can differ significantly from what the others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.
    --
    Daryl
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  • From lindsay@lindsay@nuneya.biz to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 19:59:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 28/07/2026 12:50 pm, Xeno wrote:


    This from the bloke who's been lying his arse off ever since he arrived
    here *decades ago*.

    And you haven't, Krypsis? Fuck of and die, you pox-ridden hypocritical cunt.


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  • From Xeno@xenolith@optusnet.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Tue Jul 28 20:37:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics



    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    Indeed, the only poll that matters is the one on election day held at
    the polling booths.
    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 03:03:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup
    Polls.

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    Your photo is of 2025 polls, it's now 2026

    Nothing has been done in that time that would
    produce a different result to that terminal stupidity
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 03:07:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup
    Polls.

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've noticed over the years that RM polls can differ significantly from what the others say.

    At best the polls are a rough guide.

    They clearly weren't in that case given that the coalition
    was wiped out and labor won in a megalandslide

    Hard to see how they could have been more wrong
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  • From Clocky@notgonna@happen.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 03:58:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup
    Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've noticed over
    the years that RM polls can differ significantly from what the others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering Labor
    won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but not one
    person I've asked has said they would vote for the red cunt - the
    exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure would, so who are
    they polling, where and in what numbers?
    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 07:03:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote
    Daryl wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup
    Polls.

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 if a >>>> state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've noticed
    over the years that RM polls can differ significantly from what the
    others say.

    At best the polls are a rough guide.

    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering Labor
    won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    Yeah, one hell of an indictment of the polls

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but not one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red cunt - the
    exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure would, so who are
    they polling, where and in what numbers?

    One notion did win the Farrer federal by election and
    we know that they won almost all the polling booths
    except some in Albury where the only real alternative
    candidate, and independant, lives but it is a VERY
    unusual electorate which has never had a labor
    MP in its entire history and labor didnt field a
    candidate this time and the independant is
    a lefty ex school teacher and the one notion
    candidate was a well know rural industry person
    and by elections are always very atypical elections
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  • From Xeno@xenolith@optusnet.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 07:48:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics



    On 29/7/2026 5:58 am, Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup
    Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 if a >>>> state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've noticed
    over the years that RM polls can differ significantly from what the
    others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering Labor
    won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but not one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red cunt - the
    exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure would, so who are
    they polling, where and in what numbers?

    One of the things I have noticed is that, though they say they are
    voting "X", people often do the opposite at polls. I remember back after Kennett got into power first time round, nobody admitted to voting him
    in. I now see the same thing in recent elections, nobody wants to admit
    they voted for the incumbent. Or intended to. The only poll that matters
    is the one held on election day.
    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Axel@none@not.here to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 09:57:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup
    Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 if a >>>> state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've noticed
    over the years that RM polls can differ significantly from what the
    others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering Labor
    won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but not
    one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red cunt - the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure would, so who are
    they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions
    --
    Linux Mint 22.3

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  • From Xeno@xenolith@optusnet.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 11:37:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics



    On 29/7/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup >>>>>>> Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 if a >>>>> state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've noticed
    over the years that RM polls can differ significantly from what the
    others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering Labor
    won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but not
    one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red cunt - the
    exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure would, so who are
    they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    No need! The FLCJC will decide that for you - like they've done with Clocky.
    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Keithr0@nothing.to.see@here.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 12:48:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 11:37 am, Xeno wrote:


    On 29/7/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup >>>>>>>> Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of >>>>>> latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the >>>>>> Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 >>>>>> if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've noticed
    over the years that RM polls can differ significantly from what the
    others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering Labor
    won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but not
    one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red cunt - the
    exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure would, so who are
    they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    No need! The FLCJC will decide that for you - like they've done with
    Clocky.


    No need to make anything up, he has made it clear where his sympathies lie.
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  • From Clocky@notgonna@happen.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 11:03:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup >>>>>>> Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 if a >>>>> state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've noticed
    over the years that RM polls can differ significantly from what the
    others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering Labor
    won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but not
    one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red cunt - the
    exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure would, so who are
    they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.
    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Axel@none@not.here to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 13:18:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup >>>>>>>> Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of >>>>>> latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the >>>>>> Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 >>>>>> if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've noticed
    over the years that RM polls can differ significantly from what the
    others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering
    Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but not
    one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red cunt -
    the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure would, so
    who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off
    --
    Linux Mint 22.3

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  • From Xeno@xenolith@optusnet.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 13:31:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics



    On 29/7/2026 12:48 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 11:37 am, Xeno wrote:


    On 29/7/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup >>>>>>>>> Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of >>>>>>> latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the >>>>>>> Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 >>>>>>> if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in >>>>>>> politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've noticed >>>>> over the years that RM polls can differ significantly from what the >>>>> others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering
    Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but not
    one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red cunt -
    the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure would, so
    who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    No need! The FLCJC will decide that for you - like they've done with
    Clocky.


    No need to make anything up, he has made it clear where his sympathies lie.

    Sympathies, yes, vote, no.
    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Xeno@xenolith@optusnet.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 13:39:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics



    On 29/7/2026 1:18 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup >>>>>>>>> Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of >>>>>>> latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the >>>>>>> Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 >>>>>>> if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in >>>>>>> politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've noticed >>>>> over the years that RM polls can differ significantly from what the >>>>> others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering
    Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but not
    one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red cunt -
    the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure would, so
    who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off

    Indeed, regardless of whatever voting intentions one telegraphs, what
    happens on polling day may be entirely different. Simply put, a lot of
    people seem to make up their minds as they walk into the polling booth.
    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Clocky@notgonna@happen.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 12:10:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 11:18 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan Gallup >>>>>>>>> Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of >>>>>>> latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian-
    electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the >>>>>>> Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as 19 >>>>>>> if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in >>>>>>> politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've noticed >>>>> over the years that RM polls can differ significantly from what the >>>>> others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering
    Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but not
    one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red cunt -
    the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure would, so
    who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off


    You're not voting Green or Labor... and you are about as far right of
    politics as you can go without circling back. Now I genuinely believe
    you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON given it's in your interest
    to keep Medicare and the PBS which she would abolish - so you're most
    likely to vote for LNP even though you lean much further right than
    those clowns.
    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Clocky@notgonna@happen.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 12:12:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 11:31 am, Xeno wrote:


    On 29/7/2026 12:48 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 11:37 am, Xeno wrote:


    On 29/7/2026 9:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan
    Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0 >>>>>>>
    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is because of >>>>>>>> latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian- >>>>>>>> electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in the >>>>>>>> Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as >>>>>>>> 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in >>>>>>>> politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've
    noticed over the years that RM polls can differ significantly from >>>>>> what the others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering
    Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but not >>>>> one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red cunt -
    the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure would, so
    who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    No need! The FLCJC will decide that for you - like they've done with
    Clocky.


    No need to make anything up, he has made it clear where his sympathies
    lie.

    Sympathies, yes, vote, no.


    He's determined that I'm a far lefty and a Labor or Greens voter even
    though I've never voted for either, so he can cop it sweet too.
    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Axel@none@not.here to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 14:52:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Xeno wrote:


    On 29/7/2026 1:18 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan
    Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0 >>>>>>>
    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is
    because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian- >>>>>>>> electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in >>>>>>>> the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as >>>>>>>> 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in >>>>>>>> politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've
    noticed over the years that RM polls can differ significantly
    from what the others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering
    Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but
    not one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red
    cunt - the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure
    would, so who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off

    Indeed, regardless of whatever voting intentions one telegraphs, what happens on polling day may be entirely different. Simply put, a lot of people seem to make up their minds as they walk into the polling booth.


    they do. and a lot walk in intending to vote one way, then change their
    mind when they have the pencil in hand
    --
    Linux Mint 22.3

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  • From Axel@none@not.here to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 14:54:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 11:18 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan
    Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is
    because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian- >>>>>>>> electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in >>>>>>>> the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as >>>>>>>> 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in >>>>>>>> politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've
    noticed over the years that RM polls can differ significantly
    from what the others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering
    Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but
    not one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red
    cunt - the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure
    would, so who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off


    You're not voting Green or Labor... and you are about as far right of politics as you can go without circling back. Now I genuinely believe
    you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON given it's in your interest
    to keep Medicare and the PBS which she would abolish

    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those

    - so you're most likely to vote for LNP even though you lean much
    further right than those clowns.

    --
    Linux Mint 22.3

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  • From Axel@none@not.here to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 15:02:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 11:18 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan >>>>>>>>>>> Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is
    because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian- >>>>>>>>> electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 >>>>>>>>> in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as >>>>>>>>> 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in >>>>>>>>> politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've
    noticed over the years that RM polls can differ significantly
    from what the others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering
    Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong. >>>>>>
    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but
    not one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red
    cunt - the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure
    would, so who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off


    You're not voting Green or Labor... and you are about as far right of
    politics as you can go without circling back. Now I genuinely believe
    you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON given it's in your
    interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she would abolish

    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those


    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat. but don't
    worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog wogs.
    (afaik)-a :)

    AI Overview

    No, it is not One Nation's policy to completely abandon Medicare or the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS), but the party has proposed major
    reviews and changes that critics argue could undermine them.

    One Nation's Stated Positions
    Medicare and PBS Support: The party states it wants to crack down on
    fraud and misuse in Medicare and the PBS to save money, claiming
    billions are lost annually.

    Specific Proposals: Under its government waste reduction plans, One
    Nation has proposed to review $3 billion worth of medications added to
    the PBS during the pandemic and to abolish the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) by rolling its functions into the federal health department.

    Criticisms and Concerns
    The "Abandonment" Claim: Political opponents and patient advocacy groups
    have argued that reviewing pandemic-era PBS listings and targeting
    health administration amounts to gutting or threatening affordable
    healthcare systems.

    Expert Feedback: Health policy experts have criticized some of One
    Nation's proposals as unfeasible or based on misunderstandings (such as
    noting the TGA is already part of the health department), warning that
    changes could cause administrative confusion or restrict access.

    - so you're most likely to vote for LNP even though you lean much
    further right than those clowns.


    --
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  • From Clocky@notgonna@happen.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 13:16:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 12:54 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 11:18 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan >>>>>>>>>>> Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is
    because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian- >>>>>>>>> electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in >>>>>>>>> the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as >>>>>>>>> 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in >>>>>>>>> politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've
    noticed over the years that RM polls can differ significantly
    from what the others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering
    Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong. >>>>>>
    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but
    not one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red
    cunt - the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure
    would, so who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off


    You're not voting Green or Labor... and you are about as far right of
    politics as you can go without circling back. Now I genuinely believe
    you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON given it's in your interest
    to keep Medicare and the PBS which she would abolish

    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those


    She said she would make cuts to the PBS in her press club speech and you
    can bet that Medicare would follow. There are now people dying in the US because they can no longer afford hundreds a month just for an asthma
    puffer thanks to cuts Trump has made which Hanson is modeling her
    policies on.

    But if that's the kind of Australia you want, by all means vote ON - but
    don't act surprised if it comes back to bite you in the arse as it has
    Trump voters in the US.
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  • From Clocky@notgonna@happen.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 13:23:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 1:02 pm, Axel wrote:
    Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 11:18 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan >>>>>>>>>>>> Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is
    because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian- >>>>>>>>>> electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 >>>>>>>>>> in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as >>>>>>>>>> 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in >>>>>>>>>> politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've
    noticed over the years that RM polls can differ significantly >>>>>>>> from what the others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering >>>>>>> Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong. >>>>>>>
    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but >>>>>>> not one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red
    cunt - the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure
    would, so who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off


    You're not voting Green or Labor... and you are about as far right of
    politics as you can go without circling back. Now I genuinely believe
    you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON given it's in your
    interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she would abolish

    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those


    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat.

    Nope.

    but don't
    worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog wogs.
    (afaik)-a :)


    If she ever got in government it would be a very sad indictment on the
    people of this country. I'll likely deport myself :-)

    AI Overview

    No, it is not One Nation's policy to completely abandon Medicare or the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS), but the party has proposed major reviews and changes that critics argue could undermine them.

    One Nation's Stated Positions
    Medicare and PBS Support: The party states it wants to crack down on
    fraud and misuse in Medicare and the PBS to save money, claiming
    billions are lost annually.


    That's what Trump said before taking the axe to everything.
    In case you haven't noticed, Hanson is talking the same talk Trump did
    and you can bet she will walk the same walk.


    Specific Proposals: Under its government waste reduction plans, One
    Nation has proposed to review $3 billion worth of medications added to
    the PBS during the pandemic and to abolish the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) by rolling its functions into the federal health department.

    Criticisms and Concerns
    The "Abandonment" Claim: Political opponents and patient advocacy groups have argued that reviewing pandemic-era PBS listings and targeting
    health administration amounts to gutting or threatening affordable healthcare systems.

    Expert Feedback: Health policy experts have criticized some of One
    Nation's proposals as unfeasible or based on misunderstandings (such as noting the TGA is already part of the health department), warning that changes could cause administrative confusion or restrict access.


    So is this a plank you would want to walk down? Yes or no?

    - so you're most likely to vote for LNP even though you lean much
    further right than those clowns.




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  • From Keithr0@nothing.to.see@here.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 16:40:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 3:02 pm, Axel wrote:

    No, it is not One Nation's policy to completely abandon Medicare or the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS), but the party has proposed major reviews and changes that critics argue could undermine them.

    I.E. rip the guts out of them.

    One Nation's Stated Positions
    Medicare and PBS Support: The party states it wants to crack down on
    fraud and misuse in Medicare and the PBS to save money, claiming
    billions are lost annually.

    Straight out of the Trump playbook

    Specific Proposals: Under its government waste reduction plans, One
    Nation has proposed to review $3 billion worth of medications added to
    the PBS during the pandemic

    Also from an AI:

    A political proposal by One Nation seeks to review $3 billion worth of medications added to Australia's Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS)
    during the COVID-19 pandemic. This proposal forms part of a broader
    policy document aimed at cutting federal government spending.Context of
    the Proposal Targeted Figure: The $3 billion figure specifically
    highlights treatments and expanded listings approved and subsidized
    during the pandemic years.

    Impacted Medicines: Potentially affected items include vital therapies
    like heart failure medications, treatments for severe childhood
    epilepsy, and specific oncology or dermatology drugs.

    That sounds good - not!

    and to abolish the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) by rolling
    its functions into the federal health department.

    It is already part of the health department.

    Criticisms and Concerns
    The "Abandonment" Claim: Political opponents and patient advocacy groups have argued that reviewing pandemic-era PBS listings and targeting
    health administration amounts to gutting or threatening affordable healthcare systems.

    Expert Feedback: Health policy experts have criticized some of One
    Nation's proposals as unfeasible or based on misunderstandings (such as noting the TGA is already part of the health department), warning that changes could cause administrative confusion or restrict access.

    Probably Gina thinks that she is paying too much tax, so the rest of us
    need to economise.

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  • From alvey@Factman@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 16:45:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky wrote:


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off


    You're not voting Green or Labor... and you are about as far right of politics as you can go without circling back. Now I genuinely believe
    you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON given it's in your interest
    to keep Medicare and the PBS which she would abolish - so you're most
    likely to vote for LNP even though you lean much further right than
    those clowns.

    "It doesn't matter who you vote for, a politican always gets in". Anon
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 16:47:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote

    Now I genuinely believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON given it's in your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she would
    abolish

    No she would not, in fact not only would she support both, she
    would improve both if she ever got any say on either of them

    https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_45113d88-4076-4b6d-b2c8-7fc4ca803251
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 16:50:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Axel <none@not.here> wrote
    Clocky wrote

    Now I genuinely believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON
    given it's in your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she
    would abolish

    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those

    It isn't and in fact she has said repeatedly that not only
    would she support both, she has said she would enhance
    both if she ever got any say on either of them
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 16:59:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote
    Axel wrote
    Clocky wrote

    Now I genuinely believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON
    given it's in your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she
    would abolish

    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those

    She said she would make cuts to the PBS in her press club speech

    No she did not, all she ever said in that speech was that
    she would remove some of the stuff that was put on it for
    covid, because she stupidly believes the shit that that fool
    JFK jr stupidly claims about covid retrovirus antibiotics

    and you can bet that Medicare would follow.

    She in fact said the exact opposite of that https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_45113d88-4076-4b6d-b2c8-7fc4ca803251

    There are now people dying in the US because they can no longer afford hundreds a month just for an asthma puffer thanks to cuts Trump has made which Hanson is modeling her policies on.

    She is doing nothing of the sort https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_45113d88-4076-4b6d-b2c8-7fc4ca803251
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 17:14:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote
    Axel wrote
    Axel wrote
    Clocky wrote
    Now I genuinely believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON
    given it's in your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she
    would abolish

    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those

    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat.

    In fact getting what she proposes completely wrong

    Nope.

    Yep

    but don't
    worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog wogs.
    (afaik) :)

    She wants to deport all immigrants ;(

    If she ever got in government

    Not going to happen

    it would be a very sad indictment on the people of this country. I'll likely deport myself :-)

    AI Overview
    No, it is not One Nation's policy to completely abandon Medicare or
    the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS), but the party has proposed
    major reviews and changes that critics argue could undermine them.
    One Nation's Stated Positions
    Medicare and PBS Support: The party states it wants to crack down on
    fraud and misuse in Medicare and the PBS to save money, claiming
    billions are lost annually.

    That's what Trump said before taking the axe to everything.

    He hasn't taken the axe to everything

    In fact he has forced their system to only pay the lowest price
    that the drug companys have agreed to charge anywhere in the
    world, which in many cases the price the PBS has negotiated here

    In case you haven't noticed, Hanson is talking the same talk Trump did

    She is doing nothing of the sort with Medicare and the PBS

    and you can bet she will walk the same walk.

    Fantasy

    Specific Proposals: Under its government waste reduction plans, One
    Nation has proposed to review $3 billion worth of medications added to
    the PBS during the pandemic and to abolish the Therapeutic Goods
    Administration (TGA) by rolling its functions into the federal health
    department.

    Criticisms and Concerns
    The "Abandonment" Claim: Political opponents and patient advocacy
    groups have argued that reviewing pandemic-era PBS listings and
    targeting health administration amounts to gutting or threatening
    affordable healthcare systems.

    Expert Feedback: Health policy experts have criticized some of One
    Nation's proposals as unfeasible or based on misunderstandings (such as
    noting the TGA is already part of the health department), warning that
    changes could cause administrative confusion or restrict access.

    So is this a plank you would want to walk down? Yes or no?

    You don't get to demand a yes or no response
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  • From alvey@Factman@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 17:17:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Axel wrote:



    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat. but don't worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog wogs.
    (afaik)-a :)

    AI Overview

    Idle Question: If this "AI Overview" is, as I understand it, the product
    of an aggregation of sources, how credible then is this overview if a
    high %age of the sources are irrationally biased?
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 17:21:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
    Axel wrote

    No, it is not One Nation's policy to completely abandon Medicare or the
    Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS), but the party has proposed major
    reviews and changes that critics argue could undermine them.

    I.E. rip the guts out of them.

    Nothing even remotely like that https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_45113d88-4076-4b6d-b2c8-7fc4ca803251

    One Nation's Stated Positions
    Medicare and PBS Support: The party states it wants to crack down on
    fraud and misuse in Medicare and the PBS to save money, claiming
    billions are lost annually.

    Straight out of the Trump playbook

    Bullshit

    Specific Proposals: Under its government waste reduction plans, One
    Nation has proposed to review $3 billion worth of medications added to
    the PBS during the pandemic

    Also from an AI:

    A political proposal by One Nation seeks to review $3 billion worth of medications added to Australia's Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS) during the COVID-19 pandemic. This proposal forms part of a broader
    policy document aimed at cutting federal government spending.Context of
    the Proposal Targeted Figure: The $3 billion figure specifically
    highlights treatments and expanded listings approved and subsidized
    during the pandemic years.

    Which is because she has stupidly bought RFK jr's
    stupidity about retrovirus antivirus against covid

    Impacted Medicines: Potentially affected items include vital therapies
    like heart failure medications, treatments for severe childhood
    epilepsy, and specific oncology or dermatology drugs.

    She has never said that

    That sounds good - not!

    and to abolish the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) by rolling
    its functions into the federal health department.

    It is already part of the health department.

    Criticisms and Concerns
    The "Abandonment" Claim: Political opponents and patient advocacy
    groups have argued that reviewing pandemic-era PBS listings and
    targeting health administration amounts to gutting or threatening
    affordable healthcare systems.
    Expert Feedback: Health policy experts have criticized some of One
    Nation's proposals as unfeasible or based on misunderstandings (such as
    noting the TGA is already part of the health department), warning that
    changes could cause administrative confusion or restrict access.

    Probably Gina thinks that she is paying too much tax, so the rest of us need to economise.

    More of your mindless bullshit
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 17:29:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    alvey <Factman@gmail.com> wrote
    Axel wrote

    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat. but
    don't worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog wogs.
    (afaik) :)

    AI Overview

    Idle Question: If this "AI Overview" is, as I understand it, the product
    of an aggregation of sources, how credible then is this overview if a
    high %age of the sources are irrationally biased?

    You are free to check the sources it cites with that excellent AI

    And it actually cites what she has actually said about those issues
    and you are also free to check if she actually said that too
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  • From Axel@none@not.here to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 18:36:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 12:54 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 11:18 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan >>>>>>>>>>>> Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>>>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is
    because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian- >>>>>>>>>> electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 >>>>>>>>>> in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many >>>>>>>>>> as 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic
    shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG? >>>>>>>>> rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've
    noticed over the years that RM polls can differ significantly >>>>>>>> from what the others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering >>>>>>> Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong. >>>>>>>
    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but >>>>>>> not one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red
    cunt - the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure
    would, so who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off


    You're not voting Green or Labor... and you are about as far right
    of politics as you can go without circling back. Now I genuinely
    believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON given it's in
    your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she would abolish

    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those


    She said she would make cuts to the PBS in her press club speech and
    you can bet that Medicare would follow. There are now people dying in
    the US because they can no longer afford hundreds a month just for an
    asthma puffer thanks to cuts Trump has made which Hanson is modeling
    her policies on.

    just more of your BS..

    AI Overview
    It is false that a new wave of deaths is being caused by Trump-era cuts
    to asthma inhalers. High US out-of-pocket costs for brand-name inhalers
    have long been a systemic issue, but major pharmaceutical companies
    actually introduced voluntary $35 monthly price caps following political pressure, and no federal cuts have eliminated asthma puffers.


    But if that's the kind of Australia you want, by all means vote ON -
    but don't act surprised if it comes back to bite you in the arse as it
    has Trump voters in the US.

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  • From Axel@none@not.here to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 18:50:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    alvey wrote:
    Axel wrote:



    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat. but
    don't worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog
    wogs. (afaik)-a :)

    AI Overview

    Idle Question: If this "AI Overview" is, as I understand it, the
    product of an aggregation of sources, how credible then is this
    overview if a high %age of the sources are irrationally biased?


    what's the likelihood of the majority of world wide sources being
    irrationally biased? but, as I understand it, AI rejects sources that
    lack credibility or verification
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  • From Keithr0@nothing.to.see@here.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 19:40:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 5:21 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
    Axel wrote

    No, it is not One Nation's policy to completely abandon Medicare or
    the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS), but the party has proposed
    major reviews and changes that critics argue could undermine them.

    I.E. rip the guts out of them.

    Nothing even remotely like that https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_45113d88-4076-4b6d-b2c8-7fc4ca803251

    All that she has said is that she won't abolish them (it would be
    political suicide to do so), that doesn't mean that she won't
    drastically reduce them.

    One Nation's Stated Positions
    Medicare and PBS Support: The party states it wants to crack down on
    fraud and misuse in Medicare and the PBS to save money, claiming
    billions are lost annually.

    Straight out of the Trump playbook

    Bullshit

    Exactly what Trump did with DOGE claim that there is waste and fraud
    without evidence.

    Specific Proposals: Under its government waste reduction plans, One
    Nation has proposed to review $3 billion worth of medications added
    to the PBS during the pandemic

    Also from an AI:

    A political proposal by One Nation seeks to review $3 billion worth of
    medications added to Australia's Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS)
    during the COVID-19 pandemic. This proposal forms part of a broader
    policy document aimed at cutting federal government spending.Context
    of the Proposal Targeted Figure: The $3 billion figure specifically
    highlights treatments and expanded listings approved and subsidized
    during the pandemic years.

    Which is because she has stupidly bought RFK jr's
    stupidity about retrovirus antivirus against covid

    She seems to have bought all of his stupidities.

    Impacted Medicines: Potentially affected items include vital therapies
    like heart failure medications, treatments for severe childhood
    epilepsy, and specific oncology or dermatology drugs.

    She has never said that

    Read the word "Potentially"
    That sounds good - not!

    and to abolish the Therapeutic Goods-a Administration (TGA) by rolling
    its functions into the federal health department.

    It is already part of the health department.

    Criticisms and Concerns
    The "Abandonment" Claim: Political opponents and patient advocacy
    groups have argued that reviewing pandemic-era PBS listings and
    targeting health administration amounts to gutting or threatening
    affordable healthcare systems.
    -aExpert Feedback: Health policy experts have criticized some of One
    Nation's proposals as unfeasible or based on misunderstandings (such
    as noting the TGA is already part of the health department), warning
    that changes could cause administrative confusion or restrict access.

    Probably Gina thinks that she is paying too much tax, so the rest of
    us need to economise.

    More of your mindless bullshit

    Same old speed, you haven't progressed in 30 years.
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  • From Keithr0@nothing.to.see@here.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 20:00:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 4:47 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote

    Now I genuinely believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON
    given it's in your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she
    would abolish

    No she would not, in fact not only would she support both, she
    would improve both if she ever got any say on either of them

    https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_45113d88-4076-4b6d-b2c8-7fc4ca803251

    We don't need speed here, just connect grok directly to the thread, and
    cut out the middle man.
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  • From Keithr0@nothing.to.see@here.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 20:06:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 1:39 pm, Xeno wrote:

    Simply put, a lot of people seem to make up their minds as they
    walk into the polling booth.

    Probably too lazy to think about the consequences of their vote.
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  • From Keithr0@nothing.to.see@here.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 20:08:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 6:50 pm, Axel wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Axel wrote:



    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat. but
    don't worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog
    wogs. (afaik)-a :)

    AI Overview

    Idle Question: If this "AI Overview" is, as I understand it, the
    product of an aggregation of sources, how credible then is this
    overview if a high %age of the sources are irrationally biased?


    what's the likelihood of the majority of world wide sources being irrationally biased? but, as I understand it, AI rejects sources that
    lack credibility or verification

    How do they know?
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  • From Axel@none@not.here to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 20:12:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 6:50 pm, Axel wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Axel wrote:



    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat. but
    don't worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog
    wogs. (afaik)-a :)

    AI Overview

    Idle Question: If this "AI Overview" is, as I understand it, the
    product of an aggregation of sources, how credible then is this
    overview if a high %age of the sources are irrationally biased?


    what's the likelihood of the majority of world wide sources being
    irrationally biased? but, as I understand it, AI rejects sources that
    lack credibility or verification

    How do they know?

    it evaluates everything it finds on the matter
    --
    Linux Mint 22.3

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  • From Keithr0@nothing.to.see@here.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 20:16:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 8:12 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 6:50 pm, Axel wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Axel wrote:



    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat. but
    don't worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog
    wogs. (afaik)-a :)

    AI Overview

    Idle Question: If this "AI Overview" is, as I understand it, the
    product of an aggregation of sources, how credible then is this
    overview if a high %age of the sources are irrationally biased?


    what's the likelihood of the majority of world wide sources being
    irrationally biased? but, as I understand it, AI rejects sources that
    lack credibility or verification

    How do they know?

    it evaluates everything it finds on the matter

    You really believe that?
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  • From alvey@Factman@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 20:37:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Axel wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Axel wrote:



    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat. but
    don't worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog
    wogs. (afaik)-a :)

    AI Overview

    Idle Question: If this "AI Overview" is, as I understand it, the
    product of an aggregation of ignored, how credible then is this
    overview if a high %age of the sources are irrationally biased?


    what's the likelihood of the majority of world wide sources being irrationally biased?

    Can answer that in one word: Murdoch.

    but, as I understand it, AI rejects sources that
    lack credibility or verification

    To a degree. I'd imagine that mad bloggers, influenzas and non-metro Victorians would be correctly ignored, but after that AI's all a bit of
    a murky mess and shouldn't be used for things like "overviews".
    --
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  • From Xeno@xenolith@optusnet.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 21:24:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics



    On 29/7/2026 8:12 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 6:50 pm, Axel wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Axel wrote:



    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat. but
    don't worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog
    wogs. (afaik)-a :)

    AI Overview

    Idle Question: If this "AI Overview" is, as I understand it, the
    product of an aggregation of sources, how credible then is this
    overview if a high %age of the sources are irrationally biased?


    what's the likelihood of the majority of world wide sources being
    irrationally biased? but, as I understand it, AI rejects sources that
    lack credibility or verification

    How do they know?

    it evaluates everything it finds on the matter

    And therein lies a problem. Feed in some biasing information, voila! The Chinese AI has had that done to it.
    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Xeno@xenolith@optusnet.com.au to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 21:41:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics



    On 29/7/2026 2:54 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 11:18 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan >>>>>>>>>>> Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0 >>>>>>>>
    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is
    because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0 >>>>>>>>
    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian- >>>>>>>>> electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in >>>>>>>>> the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as >>>>>>>>> 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift in >>>>>>>>> politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0


    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've
    noticed over the years that RM polls can differ significantly
    from what the others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering
    Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong. >>>>>>
    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but
    not one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red
    cunt - the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure
    would, so who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off


    You're not voting Green or Labor... and you are about as far right of
    politics as you can go without circling back. Now I genuinely believe
    you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON given it's in your interest
    to keep Medicare and the PBS which she would abolish

    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those

    Right wing candidates have long made it obvious that the PBS and
    Medicare are anathema to them. Nothing new here. >
    - so you're most likely to vote for LNP even though you lean much
    further right than those clowns.


    --
    Xeno

    Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
    (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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  • From Axel@none@not.here to aus.cars,aus.politics on Wed Jul 29 23:23:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 8:12 pm, Axel wrote:
    Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 6:50 pm, Axel wrote:
    alvey wrote:
    Axel wrote:



    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat.
    but don't worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting
    clog wogs. (afaik)-a :)

    AI Overview

    Idle Question: If this "AI Overview" is, as I understand it, the
    product of an aggregation of sources, how credible then is this
    overview if a high %age of the sources are irrationally biased?


    what's the likelihood of the majority of world wide sources being
    irrationally biased? but, as I understand it, AI rejects sources
    that lack credibility or verification

    How do they know?

    it evaluates everything it finds on the matter

    You really believe that?

    what do you believe then
    --
    Linux Mint 22.3

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Thu Jul 30 03:11:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
    Axel wrote
    No, it is not One Nation's policy to completely abandon Medicare or >>>> the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS), but the party has proposed >>>> major reviews and changes that critics argue could undermine them.
    I.E. rip the guts out of them.
    Nothing even remotely like that
    https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_45113d88-4076-4b6d-b2c8-7fc4ca803251
    All that she has said is that she won't abolish them
    Bullshit
    She has also said
    =====================================
    Official One Nation positions and HansonrCOs statements instead emphasize supporting and strengthening both schemes while targeting what they describe as fraud/rorts (citing figures up to ~$3 billion a year from reviews like the 2023 Philip Review), requiring photo ID on Medicare cards, imposing longer waiting periods for new arrivals to access them,
    =====================================
    (it would be political suicide to do so), that doesn't mean that she > won't drastically reduce them.
    She has never said anything like that
    One Nation's Stated Positions
    Medicare and PBS Support: The party states it wants to crack down on >>>> fraud and misuse in Medicare and the PBS to save money, claiming >>>> billions are lost annually.
    Straight out of the Trump playbook
    Bullshit
    Exactly what Trump did with DOGE claim that there is waste and fraud > without evidence.
    Irrelevant to whether Hanson has said anything like that about
    Medicare and the PBS. In fact she clearly proposes the exact
    opposite in what I rubbed your stupid nose in from grok
    Specific Proposals: Under its government waste reduction plans, One >>>> Nation has proposed to review $3 billion worth of medications added >>>> to the PBS during the pandemic
    Also from an AI:
    A political proposal by One Nation seeks to review $3 billion worth of >>> medications added to Australia's Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS) >>> during the COVID-19 pandemic. This proposal forms part of a broader >>> policy document aimed at cutting federal government spending.Context >>> of the Proposal Targeted Figure: The $3 billion figure specifically >>> highlights treatments and expanded listings approved and subsidized >>> during the pandemic years.
    Which is because she has stupidly bought RFK jr's
    stupidity about retrovirus antivirus against covid
    She seems to have bought all of his stupidities.
    Bullshit with vaccination in general and scrapping the CDC
    Impacted Medicines: Potentially affected items include vital therapies >>> like heart failure medications, treatments for severe childhood >>> epilepsy, and specific oncology or dermatology drugs.
    She has never said that
    Read the word "Potentially"
    That is nothing she actually said
    That sounds good - not!
    and to abolish the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) by rolling >>>> its functions into the federal health department.
    It is already part of the health department.
    Criticisms and Concerns
    The "Abandonment" Claim: Political opponents and patient advocacy >>>> groups have argued that reviewing pandemic-era PBS listings and >>>> targeting health administration amounts to gutting or threatening >>>> affordable healthcare systems.
    Expert Feedback: Health policy experts have criticized some of One >>>> Nation's proposals as unfeasible or based on misunderstandings (such >>>> as noting the TGA is already part of the health department), warning >>>> that changes could cause administrative confusion or restrict access.
    Probably Gina thinks that she is paying too much tax, so the rest of >>> us need to economise.
    More of your mindless bullshit
    Same old speed, you haven't progressed in 30 years.
    Same old fuckwit pom, never had a fucking clue
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Thu Jul 30 03:19:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Wed, 29 Jul 2026 21:41:20 +1000, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:



    On 29/7/2026 2:54 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 11:18 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan >>>>>>>>>>>> Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0 >>>>>>>>>
    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is >>>>>>>>>> because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0 >>>>>>>>>
    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian- >>>>>>>>>> electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 in >>>>>>>>>> the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many as >>>>>>>>>> 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic shift >>>>>>>>>> in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0 >>>>>>>>

    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've
    noticed over the years that RM polls can differ significantly >>>>>>>> from what the others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering >>>>>>> Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong. >>>>>>>
    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but >>>>>>> not one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red >>>>>>> cunt - the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure >>>>>>> would, so who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off


    You're not voting Green or Labor... and you are about as far right of
    politics as you can go without circling back. Now I genuinely believe
    you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON given it's in your interest >>> to keep Medicare and the PBS which she would abolish
    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those

    Right wing candidates have long made it obvious that the PBS and
    Medicare are anathema to them. Nothing new here.

    Hanson hasn't done that and neither have the Libs and Nats

    - so you're most likely to vote for LNP even though you lean much
    further right than those clowns.


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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Thu Jul 30 03:13:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
    Xeno wrote

    Simply put, a lot of people seem to make up their minds as they walk
    into the polling booth.

    Probably too lazy to think about the consequences of their vote.

    More often don't have any interest in politics and so don't
    have any way of predicting that, just like you don't
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Thu Jul 30 03:15:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
    Axel wrote
    alvey wrote
    Axel wrote

    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat. but
    don't worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog
    wogs. (afaik) :)

    AI Overview

    Idle Question: If this "AI Overview" is, as I understand it, the
    product of an aggregation of sources, how credible then is this
    overview if a high %age of the sources are irrationally biased?

    what's the likelihood of the majority of world wide sources being
    irrationally biased? but, as I understand it, AI rejects sources that
    lack credibility or verification

    How do they know?

    By checking evidence cited instead of just stupidly proclaiming like you do
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  • From Clocky@notgonna@happen.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Thu Jul 30 10:48:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 3:14 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote
    Axel wrote
    Axel wrote
    Clocky wrote
    -aNow I genuinely believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON >>>>> given it's in your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she
    would abolish

    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those

    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat.

    In fact getting what she proposes completely wrong

    Nope.

    Yep


    Nope.

    -a but don't
    worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog wogs.
    (afaik)-a :)

    She wants to deport all immigrants ;(

    If she ever got in government

    Not going to happen


    Agreed.

    it would be a very sad indictment on the people of this country. I'll
    likely deport myself :-)

    AI Overview
    -aNo, it is not One Nation's policy to completely abandon Medicare or
    the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS), but the party has proposed
    major reviews and changes that critics argue could undermine them.
    -aOne Nation's Stated Positions
    Medicare and PBS Support: The party states it wants to crack down on
    fraud and misuse in Medicare and the PBS to save money, claiming
    billions are lost annually.

    That's what Trump said before taking the axe to everything.

    He hasn't taken the axe to everything


    Wrong.

    In fact he has forced their system to only pay the lowest price
    that the drug companys have agreed to charge anywhere in the
    world, which in many cases the price the PBS has negotiated here

    In case you haven't noticed, Hanson is talking the same talk Trump did

    She is doing nothing of the sort with Medicare and the PBS

    and you can bet she will walk the same walk.

    Fantasy


    She's trumpeted the same rhetoric and she's too stupid to have her own
    ideas.

    Specific Proposals: Under its government waste reduction plans, One
    Nation has proposed to review $3 billion worth of medications added
    to the PBS during the pandemic and to abolish the Therapeutic Goods
    Administration (TGA) by rolling its functions into the federal health
    department.


    Have fun explaining why people are dying because they can no longer
    afford basic medications now.

    -aCriticisms and Concerns
    The "Abandonment" Claim: Political opponents and patient advocacy
    groups have argued that reviewing pandemic-era PBS listings and
    targeting health administration amounts to gutting or threatening
    affordable healthcare systems.

    -aExpert Feedback: Health policy experts have criticized some of One
    Nation's proposals as unfeasible or based on misunderstandings (such
    as noting the TGA is already part of the health department), warning
    that changes could cause administrative confusion or restrict access.

    So is this a plank you would want to walk down? Yes or no?

    You don't get to demand a yes or no response

    It's not a demand, fool.
    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Clocky@notgonna@happen.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Thu Jul 30 10:50:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 3:29 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    alvey <Factman@gmail.com> wrote
    Axel wrote

    -aapparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat. but
    don't worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog
    wogs. (afaik)-a :)

    -aAI Overview

    Idle Question: If this "AI Overview" is, as I understand it, the
    product of an aggregation of sources, how credible then is this
    overview if a high %age of the sources are irrationally biased?

    You are free to check the sources it cites with that excellent AI


    "Excellent" lol.

    And it actually cites what she has actually said about those issues
    and you are also free to check if she actually said that too
    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Clocky@notgonna@happen.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Thu Jul 30 10:52:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 2:59 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote
    Axel wrote
    Clocky wrote

    Now I genuinely believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON
    given it's in your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she
    would abolish

    -aI didn't know it was her intention to abolish those

    She said she would make cuts to the PBS in her press club speech

    No she did not,

    Yes, she did.

    <snip AI rubbish>
    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Thu Jul 30 13:16:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote
    Axel wrote
    Axel wrote
    Clocky wrote

    Now I genuinely believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON >>>>>> given it's in your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she >>>>>> would abolish

    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those

    apparently not. seems clocky is stretching the truth somewhat.

    In fact getting what she proposes completely wrong

    Nope.

    Yep

    Nope.

    Yep

    but don't
    worry clocky, she hasn't said anything about deporting clog wogs.
    (afaik) :)

    She wants to deport all immigrants ;(

    If she ever got in government

    Not going to happen

    Agreed.

    it would be a very sad indictment on the people of this country. I'll
    likely deport myself :-)

    AI Overview
    No, it is not One Nation's policy to completely abandon Medicare or >>>> the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS), but the party has proposed >>>> major reviews and changes that critics argue could undermine them.
    One Nation's Stated Positions
    Medicare and PBS Support: The party states it wants to crack down on >>>> fraud and misuse in Medicare and the PBS to save money, claiming
    billions are lost annually.

    That's what Trump said before taking the axe to everything.

    He hasn't taken the axe to everything

    Wrong.

    He hasn't taken the axe even to everything in their medical system

    In fact he has forced their system to only pay the lowest price
    that the drug companys have agreed to charge anywhere in the
    world, which in many cases the price the PBS has negotiated here

    And that proves that he hasn't taken the axe to everything

    In case you haven't noticed, Hanson is talking the same talk Trump did

    She is doing nothing of the sort with Medicare and the PBS

    and you can bet she will walk the same walk.

    Fantasy

    She's trumpeted the same rhetoric

    Bullshit with Medicare and the PBS

    and she's too stupid to have her own ideas.

    She clearly does with what she proposed for Medicare and the PBS

    Specific Proposals: Under its government waste reduction plans, One
    Nation has proposed to review $3 billion worth of medications added
    to the PBS during the pandemic and to abolish the Therapeutic Goods
    Administration (TGA) by rolling its functions into the federal health >>>> department.

    Have fun explaining why people are dying because they can no longer
    afford basic medications now.

    That is complete and utter bullshit and nothing
    to do with what Hanson is proposing

    Criticisms and Concerns
    The "Abandonment" Claim: Political opponents and patient advocacy
    groups have argued that reviewing pandemic-era PBS listings and
    targeting health administration amounts to gutting or threatening
    affordable healthcare systems.

    Expert Feedback: Health policy experts have criticized some of One
    Nation's proposals as unfeasible or based on misunderstandings (such >>>> as noting the TGA is already part of the health department), warning >>>> that changes could cause administrative confusion or restrict access.

    So is this a plank you would want to walk down? Yes or no?

    You don't get to demand a yes or no response

    It's not a demand, fool.

    Everyone can see that it is, fuckwit
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Thu Jul 30 13:19:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote
    Axel wrote
    Clocky wrote

    Now I genuinely believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON >>>>> given it's in your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she >>>>> would abolish

    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those

    She said she would make cuts to the PBS in her press club speech

    No she did not,

    Yes, she did.

    No she did not except with some stuff included for covid

    <snip AI rubbish>

    Which proves she did nothing of the sort
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  • From Clocky@notgonna@happen.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Fri Jul 31 10:36:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 30/07/2026 1:19 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Jul 2026 21:41:20 +1000, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:



    On 29/7/2026 2:54 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 11:18 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/ >>>>>>>>>>>> IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0 >>>>>>>>>>
    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is >>>>>>>>>>> because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0 >>>>>>>>>>
    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian- >>>>>>>>>>> electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 >>>>>>>>>>> in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many >>>>>>>>>>> as 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic >>>>>>>>>>> shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0 >>>>>>>>>

    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've >>>>>>>>> noticed over the years that RM polls can differ significantly >>>>>>>>> from what the others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering >>>>>>>> Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more wrong. >>>>>>>>
    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but >>>>>>>> not one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red >>>>>>>> cunt - the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure >>>>>>>> would, so who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off


    You're not voting Green or Labor... and you are about as far right
    of politics as you can go without circling back. Now I genuinely
    believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON given it's in
    your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she would abolish
    -aI didn't know it was her intention to abolish those

    Right wing candidates have long made it obvious that the PBS and
    Medicare are anathema to them. Nothing new here.

    Hanson hasn't done that and neither have the Libs and Nats


    Hanson would if she got the chance - but she'll never announce it as
    policy before an election for obvious reasons.
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  • From Clocky@notgonna@happen.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Fri Jul 31 10:38:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/07/2026 6:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 4:47 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote

    Now I genuinely believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON
    given it's in your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she
    would abolish

    No she would not, in fact not only would she support both, she
    would improve both if she ever got any say on either of them

    https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_45113d88-4076-4b6d-b2c8-7fc4ca803251

    We don't need speed here, just connect grok directly to the thread, and
    cut out the middle man.

    Nobody has ever needed Speed anywhere, it's just imposed itself uninvited.
    --
    In thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Sept 23 2021 11:15:59am
    Keithr0 wrote: "He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
    proven liar."

    On Sept 23 2021 3:16:29pm Keithr0 wrote:
    "He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Fri Jul 31 13:43:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
    On 29/7/2026 2:54 pm, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 11:18 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 7:57 am, Axel wrote:
    Clocky wrote:
    On 28/07/2026 5:41 pm, Daryl wrote:
    On 28/7/2026 3:42 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

    The only one I have a modicum of faith in are the Morgan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gallup Polls.>

    It got this one completely wrong too
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> IMG_3651.JPG?
    rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0

    From what I see this Victorian Labor Party schlimazel is >>>>>>>>>>>> because of
    latest polling.

    Yes, but this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0 >>>>>>>>>>>
    <https://www.afr.com/politics/leaked-polling-flags-victorian- >>>>>>>>>>>> electoral-chaos-20260715-p60fiu>
    https://tinyurl.com/4sxfu4bf

    Labor could be reduced to just 25 seats and the Coalition 28 >>>>>>>>>>>> in the
    Victorian parliament while One Nation could pick up as many >>>>>>>>>>>> as 19 if a
    state election were held today, underscoring the seismic >>>>>>>>>>>> shift in
    politics ahead of the November state poll.

    And this proves that polls are complete bullshit
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/
    IMG_3651.JPG? rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&st=4roeb1fu&dl=0 >>>>>>>>>>

    Interesting that 4 out of those 10 were by Roy Morgan, I've >>>>>>>>>> noticed over the years that RM polls can differ significantly >>>>>>>>>> from what the others say.
    At best the polls are a rough guide.



    Even a rough guide would have predicted a Labor win considering >>>>>>>>> Labor won in a landslide. The polls couldn't have been more >>>>>>>>> wrong.

    I'm seeing a lot of ON being ahead or on par in polls too - but >>>>>>>>> not one person I've asked has said they would vote for the red >>>>>>>>> cunt - the exception being felix in here and I'm not even sure >>>>>>>>> would, so who are they polling, where and in what numbers?


    I've not said anything about my voting intentions

    You don't have to.


    you have no idea who I'm voting for so piss off


    You're not voting Green or Labor... and you are about as far right >>>>> of politics as you can go without circling back. Now I genuinely
    believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON given it's in
    your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she would abolish
    I didn't know it was her intention to abolish those

    Right wing candidates have long made it obvious that the PBS and
    Medicare are anathema to them. Nothing new here.

    Hanson hasn't done that and neither have the Libs and Nats

    Hanson would if she got the chance -

    There is no evidence of that

    but she'll never announce it as policybefore an election for obvious reasons.

    But even that stupid woman realises that there
    would always be more than just one election and
    she would never get that thru the senate anyway
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.politics on Fri Jul 31 13:44:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote
    Keithr0 wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote

    Now I genuinely believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON
    given it's in your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she
    would abolish

    No she would not, in fact not only would she support both, she
    would improve both if she ever got any say on either of them

    https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_45113d88-4076-4b6d-b2c8-7fc4ca803251

    We don't need speed here, just connect grok directly to the thread,
    and cut out the middle man.

    Nobody has ever needed Speed anywhere, it's just imposed itself
    uninvited.

    No one ever invited you anywhere except to a jail cell
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  • From Axel@none@not.here to aus.cars,aus.politics on Fri Jul 31 17:18:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Clocky wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 6:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
    On 29/07/2026 4:47 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote

    Now I genuinely believe you wouldn't be retarded enough to vote ON
    given it's in your interest to keep Medicare and the PBS which she
    would abolish

    No she would not, in fact not only would she support both, she
    would improve both if she ever got any say on either of them

    https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_45113d88-4076-4b6d-b2c8-7fc4ca803251

    We don't need speed here, just connect grok directly to the thread,
    and cut out the middle man.

    Nobody has ever needed Speed anywhere, it's just imposed itself
    uninvited.


    he has helped many ppl in aus.computers over the years
    --
    Linux Mint 22.3

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