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Rod Speed wrote

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Ozix

i.e. catering for the Gordon Geckos of Wall Street

The demented Orange felon reigns over his MAGAt Empire dystopia via >>>> his social media sewer outlet. Although he never had any abilities to >>>> actually "Make America Great Again" (was it ever great?)

Corse it was great given it was the reason
the allies won WW2 on two fronts

That was NO real sign of any sort of "greatness" whatsoever. Specially >> because the US have not even intended to join the war before it was >> attacked at Pearl Harbour by the Japs.
Winning was a joined effort by many nations.
On that measure the USSR should also be regarded as equally great, and
I am sure you'd never ever consider that as any sort of valid argument.
Quite a nice myth you are subscribed to here, none the less.

but he still remembered/remembers how to grift and how to scam his >>>> brain-dead helpless followers out of their last dollars.

Maybe Rod should stop fully immersing himself in US self aggrandising > propaganda rhetoric.

You should immerse yourself in some history
And it wasn't just WW2 either, america was very
great indeed when they took advantage of the
industrial revolution and started to leave europe
for dead in all of farm machinery, firearms, cars,
planes, railways, shipping etc
There might just be a reason so many choice
to migrate there from europe. Something that
didn't happen with your cesspit, Hungary

Of course, MAGAts and US brown-nosers fully swallowed hook line and > thinker the immenseUS-Greatness kool-aid, but sadly it was becausethey > were unable to tell the fundamental difference between facts and fiction!
*Pete HegsethrCOs History Howler: What America really did (and didnrCOt) win*

Just because that fool said something...

/Writer: Selwyn Parker, Oct 16, 2025, Updated: Nov 20, 2025/ <https://www.selwynparker.com/stories/us-role-in-ww2-misconceptions>

That fool doesn't have a fucking clue. If america had chosen to to
get involved after WW2 and just said if the japs wanted Hawaii and
the Philipines they were welcome to them and had not done Lend
Lease, Germany and Japan would have prevailed
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And it wasn't just WW2 either, america was very
great

Projecting military strength during the World Wars out of a country that
is not ravaged by war on its own soil have fuck all to do with any sort
of greatness.

indeed when they took advantage of the
industrial revolution and started to leave europe
for dead in all of farm machinery, firearms, cars,
planes, railways, shipping etc

I concede that the US was good at embracing the industrial revolution
... but it still has fuck all to do with actual greatness.

The issue is how one chose to measure the *greatness* of a country.

I am sure that the robber barons of US Wild West capitalism were doing
just great. But have you ever wondered how the indigenous population
(what small fraction was left alive), what black people and in fact also
a large number of of the blown ins from Europe must have thought about
working themselves to death for very little personal benefit, if any at
all. For these people any even tiny ups and downs of the quite unstable extreme US exploitative capitalism must have felt like living hell.

There might just be a reason so many choice
to migrate there from europe.

YAWN! Yes, the myth of the US promised lands were a great attraction for
all the misfits and adventurers of Europe.
That also explains how so many of Europe religious loon sects flooded
across the ocean creating the extremist nutjobs of the US Bible Belt.
Hey, they even took with them their dedicated witch-hunters. YAY!

Yes, it was true that European feudalism was very slow in dying. The conversion to full on capitalism in Central and Eastern Europe was quite
slow.

Pity you are utterly unwilling and unable to appreciate why things
happened in Europe the way they did. Maybe you should follow your own
advice and read more about European history. Specially about the history
of the late 18the to early 20th Century.

Something that
didn't happen with your cesspit, Hungary

At least, in Hungary what was good about European culture had remained
alive despite the lack of industrial progress in 19th and 20th Century
until the in between the two World Wars.
Unlike the US, Hungary still has not become a cultural cesspit! YAY!

Lucky for Hungary, that despite the devastating loss of territories,
repeated economic collapses, tremendous loss of lives and civilian infrastructure caused the ravages of wars from starting with revolution
and war of independence against the Hapsburg rule in 1848-49 until 1945
and beyond in 1956 it could survive at all, despite Russian occupation
that only ended in 1989.

If in nothing else, Hungary has proven its *great* resilience against
ruthless exploitative meddling threatening its independence and mere existence.

What Hungarian learned out of their less then stellar history is
humility that is utterly lacking amongst the septics.

You can't make me upset whatsoever by dumping shit on my country of
birth, firstly because I have become absolutely cosmopolitan and
secondly because I always have been very critical of Hungary.
So there you go, Rod, failing big time! I don't have any national pride
nor even a tiny bit of manufactured *patriotic pathos* in my blood! :-P

Of course, MAGAts and US brown-nosers fully swallowed hook line and
thinker the immenseUS-Greatness kool-aid, but-a-a sadly it was
becausethey were unable to tell the fundamental difference between
facts and fiction!

*Pete HegsethrCOs History Howler: What America really did (and didnrCOt) win*

Just because that fool said something...

YAWN! Just a little search for direct sources (no fucking AI involved)
would point you out the countless myth/misconceptions circulating about
the over-glorified septics' role in the two world wars.
Clearly, it is very trendy these days to overestimate the US's role in
those wars for obvious political propaganda purposes.
Yes, Rod, it weren't just a single historian that came to similar
conclusions. You can't simply cherry pick those few that put the US on a golden pedestal unless you are fully biased US brownnoser yourself.
Maybe, just maybe, you should separate your dedication to the
administration hard-capitalism from full admiration of how the US does it.
Yes, it is completely possible to ruthlessly screw over working class
people and the needy in society to your hearts content w/o imitating the *great* US role model! I hope you realise that!

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Rod Speed wrote

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Rod Speed wrote

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And it wasn't just WW2 either, america was very
great

Projecting military strength during the World Wars out of a country that > is not ravaged by war on its own soil

Pearl Harbor was its own country, fuckwit

have fuck all to do with any sort of greatness.

But being the reason the allies won
that particular war on 2 fronts due to
its immense industrial capacity was

indeed when they took advantage of the
industrial revolution and started to leave europe
for dead in all of farm machinery, firearms, cars,
planes, railways, shipping etc

I concede that the US was good at embracing the industrial revolution > ... but it still has fuck all to do with actual greatness.

That was when america was very great indeed
We have a machinery field day every year in
Colyambally and almost all of the antique
machinery and cars and trucks are american,
something you don't see with cars anymore

The issue is how one chose to measure the *greatness* of a country.

Dominating the world with machinery exports is certainly
part of that and they still do that with the phone system,
mobile phone technology and the internet and social media
and did that with the electrication of the world previously
and then with commercial aviation

I am sure that the robber barons of US Wild West capitalism were doing > just great.

And that did produce a very viable railway system at that time

But have you ever wondered how the indigenous population (what small > fraction was left alive),

The poms did plenty of that too in various places
and only a fool would stupidly try to claim that
the british empire was not great at the time

what black people and in fact also a large number of of the blown ins > from Europe must have thought about working themselves to death for very > little personal benefit,

That last is mindless bullshit

if any at all. For these people any even tiny ups and downs of the quite > unstable extreme US exploitative capitalism must have felt like living > hell.

How odd that very few of them chose to return to where
they came from. In fact FAR more of ours chose to do that

There might just be a reason so many choice
to migrate there from europe.

YAWN! Yes, the myth of the US promised lands were a great attraction for > all the misfits and adventurers of Europe.

There was no myth

That also explains how so many of Europe religious loon sects flooded > across the ocean creating the extremist nutjobs of the US Bible Belt.

To excape religious persecution and pogroms in europe

Hey, they even took with them their dedicated witch-hunters. YAY!

Hardly surprising that any group takes its culture with it, including the mafia

Yes, it was true that European feudalism was very slow in dying.

And the buggers were quite literally burning each other at the
stake until quite recent times. Some of the german town squares
ened up quite literally with the downwind building coated in human
fat due the witch burning frenzys

The conversion to full on capitalism in Central and Eastern Europe was > quite slow.

That is complete bullshit with britain alone and
the clearances in scotland particularly

Pity you are utterly unwilling and unable to appreciatewhy things > happened in Europe the way they did.

I know why the french and russian revolutions happened
and why nothing like that happened in britain

Maybe you should follow your own adviceand read more about European > history.

Been doing that since before you were even born thanks

Specially about the history of the late 18the to early 20th Century.Been doing that since before you were even born thanks

Something that didn't happen with your cesspit, Hungary

At least, in Hungary what was good about European culture had remained > alive despite the lack of industrial progress in 19th and 20th Century > until the in between the two World Wars.

But was never something that hordes of immigrants
chose to move to, unlike america
And lets not forget what produced WW1

Unlike the US, Hungary still has not become a cultural cesspit! YAY!

Yet. It remains to be seen now that Orban has been flushed where he belongs

Lucky for Hungary, that despite the devastating loss of territories, > repeated economic collapses, tremendous loss of lives and civilian > infrastructure caused the ravages of wars from starting with revolution > and war of independence against the Hapsburg rule in 1848-49 until 1945 > and beyond in 1956 it could survive at all, despite Russian occupation > that only ended in 1989.

It remains to be seen now that Orban has been flushed where he belongs

If in nothing else, Hungary has proven its *great* resilience against > ruthless exploitative meddling threatening its independence and mere > existence.

It remains to be seen now that Orban has been flushed where he belongs

What Hungarian learned out of their less then stellar history is > humility that is utterly lacking amongst the septics.
You can't make me upset whatsoever by dumping shit on my country of > birth,

I didn't dump any shit, I just rubbed your nose
in the fact that it clearly didn't interest the vast
bulk of europe like america did when it was great

firstly because I have become absolutely cosmopolitan and secondly > because I always have been very critical of Hungary.
So there you go, Rod, failing big time!

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys

I don't have any national pride nor even a tiny bit of manufactured > *patriotic pathos* in my blood! :-P

Me neither

Of course, MAGAts and US brown-nosers fully swallowed hook line and >>> thinker the immenseUS-Greatness kool-aid, but sadly it was >>> becausethey were unable to tell the fundamental difference between >>> facts and fiction!
*Pete HegsethrCOs History Howler: What America really did (and didnrCOt) >>> win*

Just because that fool said something...

YAWN! Just a little search for direct sources (no fucking AI involved) > would point you out the countless myth/misconceptions circulatingabout > the over-glorified septics' role in the two world wars.

Don't need to do any searching and even you should be able to
find the comments I have made about that stuff on youtube where
I list as Rod S and on facebook which is much harder to search

Clearly, it is very trendy these days to overestimate the US's role in > those wars for obvious political propaganda purposes.

There is no over estimation of the FACT that is was the
immense industrial capacity of america and the way they
got it into gear which determined the result of WW2

Yes, Rod, it weren't just a single historian that came to similar > conclusions. You can't simply cherry pick those few that put the US on a > golden pedestal unless you are fully biased US brownnoser yourself.

There is no cherry picking with the FACT that is was the
immense industrial capacity of america and the way they
got it into gear which determined the result of WW2

Maybe, just maybe, you should separate your dedication to the > administration hard-capitalism

Capitalism is what produced the america when it was
great and with the british empire when it was great too

from full admiration of how the US does it.

Whatever you think that is supposed to mean

Yes, it is completely possible to ruthlessly screw over workingclass > people and the needy in society to your hearts content

Must be why so few chose to return to where they
came from when they observed that in america

w/o imitating the *great* US role model!

No one is suggesting doing anything like that
As always, the world moves on and there is no
longer the need for vast numbers of wage slaves
like there was when america really was great
No need for real slaves anymore either and
the immense problem they produced when
there was no longer any need for them

I hope you realise that!

Corse I do
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Projecting military strength during the World Wars out of a country
that is not ravaged by war on its own soil

Pearl Harbor was its own country, fuckwit

Pearl Harbour in the greater scheme of things equates to a border
skirmish when compared to how whole European countries were devastated
by the ravages of War. Pearl Harbour did more damage to the already
oversized septic ego than to the US economy/infrastructure.

have fuck all to do with any sort-a-a of greatness.

But being the reason the allies won
that particular war on 2 fronts due to
its immense industrial capacity was

And the manpower provided by the USSR, eh?

I concede that the US was good at embracing the industrial revolution
... but it still has fuck all to do with actual greatness.

That was when america was very great indeed

YAWN! Your metrics for 'greatness" are completely different from mine.

We have a machinery field day every year in
Colyambally and almost all of the antique
machinery and cars and trucks are american,
something you don't see with cars anymore

That is Australia and NOT Europe! Next!

The issue is how one chose to measure the *greatness* of a country.

Dominating the world with machinery exports is certainly
part of that and they still do that with the phone system,
mobile phone technology and the internet and social media
and did that with the electrication of the world previously
and then with commercial aviation

Electrification in Europe had fuck all to do with the US.

For instance:

*Birth of Electric Trains*
"The first electric train was built in 1837 by chemist Robert Davidson
in Scotland. The train was powered by a battery and could carry a small
number of passengers. This marked the beginning of the electric train era"

*First Electric Locomotive*
"Werner von Siemens demonstrated the first electric locomotive in Berlin
in 1879. This marked a significant advancement in electric train
technology and paved the way for the development of electric railways."

*Opening of First Electric Tramway*
"The first electric tramway opened in Lichterfelde, Germany in 1881.
This marked the beginning of electric tram systems that would soon
become popular in cities around the world."

Sorry, I won't join you in full on US brown nosing. I won't detract
anything from what was achieved in the US but also I give credits to
where due elsewhere.

I am sure that the robber barons of US Wild West capitalism were doing
just great.

And that did produce a very viable railway system at that time

Pity that wonder build on the sweat and blood of fully exploited
disposable labourers. And *surprise-surprise* that wonder did not last
long either. Yeah, unsurprisingly over time the US ended up with one of
the most inadequate and almost fully obsolete rail-infrastructure in the developed world. And Australia was right there with that very same
distinction until recent times.
Yeah! the capitalism coin do have two different faces, one is
shiny-gilded and the other one is rusty and covered by shit. And while I
see both sides you desperately want to see only the shiny one!

But have you ever wondered how the indigenous population (what small
fraction was left alive),

The poms did plenty of that too in various places
and only a fool would stupidly try to claim that
the british empire was not great at the time

I certainly was great for the gentry and merchant class. Hey, even Marx
have not denied that!
It was an entirely different matter for the colonies and its working
poor in the coal mines, eh? Have you read anything from Charles
Dickens??? Or do you call his works as wanker crap too?

what black people and in fact also a large number of of the blown ins
from Europe must have thought about working themselves to death for
very little personal benefit,

That last is mindless bullshit

None the less inconvenient truth still remains the truth even if you
turn a blind eye to it. I am sure Mark Twain did not suffer from this
very same affliction!

if any at all. For these people any even tiny ups and downs of the
quite unstable extreme US exploitative capitalism must have felt like
living hell.

How odd that very few of them chose to return to where
they came from. In fact FAR more of ours chose to do that

Adventurers and misfits prefer a place where they can live out their
most putrid desires.
Having said that, there were plenty who have returned back to Europe completely disillusioned by the discovery of the thinness of the gilded
veneer of US way of life society.

There might just be a reason so many choice
to migrate there from europe.

YAWN! Yes, the myth of the US promised lands were a great attraction
for all the misfits and adventurers of Europe.

There was no myth

YAWN!

That also explains how so many of Europe religious loon sects flooded
across the ocean creating the extremist nutjobs of the US Bible Belt.

To excape religious persecution and pogroms in europe.

Please try to use a spell checker built into your Usenet client, or is
that request is beneath your preferred posting style?

Anyhow, there was plenty of religious nuttery going around in Europe
over the centuries of its long history, but the worst of the worst of
them all flocked to the US. And while gradually Europe has improved
itself those nuts in holy seppo-land have decided to stay in their self created dark ages.
I honestly hope you ain't going to defend here the Bible Belt insanity
like creationism/intelligent design, extreme prudery, science denialism
and their perfected Xtian fundamentalist hate towards anything that does
not fit in their crazed world views.

Hey, they even took with them their dedicated witch-hunters. YAY!

Hardly surprising that any group takes its culture with it, including
the mafia

Hmmm. Mafia was never a religious faith.

Yes, it was true that European feudalism was very slow in dying.

And the buggers were quite literally burning each other at the
stake until quite recent times.

What do you mean by recent times???

*A History of the Witch Trials in Europe*

<https://localhistories.org/a-history-of-the-witch-trials-in-europe/>

*The end of the Witch Trials*

"Eventually, however, educated people gradually stopped believing in
witches and magic. In England, a woman was condemned for witchcraft in
1685, but itrCOs not certain if she was executed. In Scotland, the last execution for witchcraft was in 1727. Finally, in 1735, parliament
repealed all previous laws against witchcraft.

The new law made it illegal to pretend to cast spells or tell fortunes.
In 1775 in Bavaria, Germany, a woman was sentenced to death for
witchcraft, but she was never executed. Instead, she died in jail. The
last execution for witchcraft in Europe was in 1782. A Swiss woman named
Anna Goeldi was beheaded.

A footnote to the witch trials: In May 1944, Helen Duncan became the
last person in Britain imprisoned under the Witchcraft Act of 1735,
which made it a crime to fraudulently claim to summon up spirits. Duncan
was a medium and she held seances above a shop on Copnor Road in
Portsmouth. She was sentenced to 9 months in prison. But the last person
to be CONVICTED under the act was another medium, Jane Rebecca Yorke. In September 1944, she was fined 5 pounds (a large sum of money at that
time). The act was repealed in 1951."

Some of the german town squares
ened up quite literally with the downwind building coated in human
fat due the witch burning frenzys

Hmmm! You do not get brownie point by over the top exaggerations.

But what has happened in Hitler's extermination camps were certainly a horrible dark point in Europe's history.

Superstition and religious extremism specially when coupled with racism
create the perfect mix to commit atrocities against humanity.

The conversion to full on capitalism in Central and Eastern Europe was
quite slow.

That is complete bullshit with britain alone and
the clearances in scotland particularly

Please read more carefully! Since when is Britain/Scotland is located in Central and Eastern Europe.
Kindly stop manufacturing and then attacking your very own strawman.

Pity you are utterly unwilling and unable to appreciate why things
happened in Europe the way they did.

I know why the french and russian revolutions happened
and why nothing like that happened in britain

Different location, different economic conditions, greatly differing
access to resources, different cultural heritage, different political
systems.
Stop being so bloody Anglo-centric!

Maybe you should follow your own adviceand read more about European
history.

Been doing that since before you were even born thanks

LOL!

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occurs when a person's age is given as a premise in support of a certain conclusion. It is true that experience is important, but what has the
person been experiencing during his or her lifetime? Is this a person
who has walked with God? If so, that person will also be able to give a
reason for any conclusion.
~~~~

Alas yours is a stupid non-argument! How confident are you about your
reading comprehension, specially if it is lopsided from the start by
cherry picking the stuff you read?

BTW when do you think I was born??? Try harder!

Specially about the history of the late 18the to early 20th Century.

Been doing that since before you were even born thanks

~~~~
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~~~~

Something that didn't happen with your cesspit, Hungary

At least, in Hungary what was good about European culture had remained
alive despite the lack of industrial progress in 19th and 20th Century
until the in between the two World Wars.

But was never something that hordes of immigrants
chose to move to, unlike america

Ahem. Have you ever heard of the Mongols? How about the Ottomans? The Hapsburgs? How about the USSR?
They indeed did not want to immigrate to Hungary, they just simply
decided that is was a good idea to conquer it fully by military force
and the keep it for good.
Admittedly this did not always worked out as desired for the
invader/occupier.
The most successful at it were the Hapsburgs, after all they held
Hungary more or less captive for a few centuries, right till the end of
World War 1, eh?
NEXT!

Unlike the US, Hungary still has not become a cultural cesspit! YAY!

Yet. It remains to be seen now that Orban has been flushed where he belongs

Even Orb|in's and his far-right/alt-right political mobs best efforts to
the contrary Hungary has remained an enlightened Central-European nation
with a rich cultural history going back over a millennium. Neither the
US nor Australia (except for their indigenous people) possess anything
like that. All they can do is producing nostalgic rants about their
grand Anglophone heritage.

Lucky for Hungary, that despite the devastating loss of territories,
repeated economic collapses, tremendous loss of lives and civilian
infrastructure caused the ravages of wars from starting with
revolution and war of independence against the Hapsburg rule in
1848-49 until 1945 and beyond in 1956 it could survive at all, despite
Russian occupation that only ended in 1989.

It remains to be seen now that Orban has been flushed where he belongs

I really-really do not see anyone crazy enough the try to invade Hungary
any time soon. Anywho, Hungary is both an EU and NATO member state which provide some much needed security for the county.

If in nothing else, Hungary has proven its *great* resilience against
ruthless exploitative meddling threatening its independence and mere
existence.

It remains to be seen now that Orban has been flushed where he belongs

Is your record somehow broken? You keep repeating the same sentence as
if it was a magic chant or somethin'!

I have already responded to it above, so stop it!

What Hungarian learned out of their less then stellar history is
humility that is utterly lacking amongst the septics.

You can't make me upset whatsoever by dumping shit on my country of
birth,

I didn't dump any shit, I just rubbed your nose
in the fact that it clearly didn't interest the vast
bulk of europe like america did when it was great

I never said Hungary was specially great, ever!

I am not an obsessed nationalist nor fanatical patriot of any nation or country.
Historically speaking Hungary was only ever relevant from the Central
European perspectives, ergo to its nearest immediate neighbours. And I
find nothing exceptional nor wrong with that fact. Alas you have missed
your attack target by miles.

firstly because I have become absolutely cosmopolitan and secondly
because I always have been very critical of Hungary.
So there you go, Rod, failing big time!

Just another of your pathetic little fantasy

The newsgroup already knows that your over-inflated ego has no bounds.

I don't have any national pride nor even a tiny bit of manufactured
*patriotic pathos* in my blood! :-P

Me neither

Not quite! You are obsessed with a sort of Anglophone superiority
nonsense even if you do not admit it.

Of course, MAGAts and US brown-nosers fully swallowed hook line and
thinker the immenseUS-Greatness kool-aid, but-a-a sadly it was
becausethey were unable to tell the fundamental difference between
facts and fiction!

*Pete HegsethrCOs History Howler: What America really did (and didnrCOt) >>>> win*

-aJust because that fool said something...

YAWN! Just a little search for direct sources (no fucking AI involved)
would point you out the countless myth/misconceptions
circulatingabout-a-a the over-glorified septics' role in the two world
wars.

Don't need to do any searching and even you should be able to
find the comments I have made about that stuff on youtube where
I list as Rod S and on facebook which is much harder to search

Nope! No thanks. I won't look for your YouTube output, nor will I ever
touch social media shit like FaceBook!

I simply search original internet content such as in Google Scholar and similar. Much better than digging through endless opinionated commentaries.

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+rd%g

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Projecting military strength during the World Wars out of a country
that is not ravaged by war on its own soil

Pearl Harbor was its own country, fuckwit

Pearl Harbour in the greater scheme of things equates to a border
skirmish when compared to how whole European countries were devastated
by the ravages of War. Pearl Harbour did more damage to the already >oversized septic ego than to the US economy/infrastructure.

Rubbish

have fuck all to do with any sortaa of greatness.

But being the reason the allies won
that particular war on 2 fronts due to
its immense industrial capacity was

And the manpower provided by the USSR, eh?

They were starving till the Americans/Australia/NZ transported
supplied them with food boots clothing, machinery, aircraft, guns
ammunition.

I concede that the US was good at embracing the industrial revolution
... but it still has fuck all to do with actual greatness.

That was when america was very great indeed

YAWN! Your metrics for 'greatness" are completely different from mine.

We have a machinery field day every year in
Colyambally and almost all of the antique
machinery and cars and trucks are american,
something you don't see with cars anymore

That is Australia and NOT Europe! Next!

rubbish

The issue is how one chose to measure the *greatness* of a country.

Dominating the world with machinery exports is certainly
part of that and they still do that with the phone system,
mobile phone technology and the internet and social media
and did that with the electrication of the world previously
and then with commercial aviation

Electrification in Europe had fuck all to do with the US.

For instance:

*Birth of Electric Trains*
"The first electric train was built in 1837 by chemist Robert Davidson
in Scotland. The train was powered by a battery and could carry a small >number of passengers. This marked the beginning of the electric train era"

*First Electric Locomotive*
"Werner von Siemens demonstrated the first electric locomotive in Berlin
in 1879. This marked a significant advancement in electric train
technology and paved the way for the development of electric railways."

*Opening of First Electric Tramway*
"The first electric tramway opened in Lichterfelde, Germany in 1881.
This marked the beginning of electric tram systems that would soon
become popular in cities around the world."

Sorry, I won't join you in full on US brown nosing. I won't detract
anything from what was achieved in the US but also I give credits to
where due elsewhere.

That had nothing to do with Soviet Russia, the Czar maybe

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hundred and eighty-three.
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died**
Cultural Marxism aims
1. The creation of racism offenses.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
5. Huge immigration and multiculturalism to destroy a countries
identity.
6. The promotion of drug taking (while pretending it is bad)
7. Emptying of churches
(Only the Christian churches as the underlying basis of our society is
Judaeo Christian) Other religions are to be promoted and protected.
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime (Soft sentencing, revolving doors, more concern for the welfare of criminals
than victims)
9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family by:
(a) Attack the authority of the father.
(b) deny the specific roles of father and mother.
(c) Wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of
their children.
(d) Abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
(e) Abolish all forms of male dominance
(f) Declare women to be an 'oppressed class' and men as 'oppressors'

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Rod Speed wrote

|urd||g wrote

Projecting military strength during the World Wars out of a country >>> that is not ravaged by war on its own soil

Pearl Harbor was its own country, fuckwit

Pearl Harbour in the greater scheme of things equates to a border > skirmish

Bullshit when it was designed to wipe out the entire
american pacific fleet and only failed to do that
because the carriers were all out of port on exercises

when compared to how whole European countries were devastated by the > ravages of War. Pearl Harbour did more damage to the already oversized > septic ego than to the US economy/infrastructure.

Pearl Harbor was the reason america went to war
having previously decided that what Hitler was up
to was just another example of what most americans
had excaped europe to get away from and didnt want
to get involved in yet another stupid european war

have fuck all to do with any sort of greatness.

But being the reason the allies won
that particular war on 2 fronts due to
its immense industrial capacity was

And the manpower provided by the USSR, eh?

Like I said, if america had chosen not get involved,
Hitler may well have prevailed and that manpower
would have been irrelevant and far more of them dead

I concede that the US was good at embracing the industrial revolution >>> ... but it still has fuck all to do with actual greatness.

That was when america was very great indeed

YAWN! Your metrics for 'greatness" are completely different from mine.Your problem

Have fun listing any examples of greatness that
matters by any other country. Even inventing
the industrial revolution by Britain doesn't
really qualify given that it was america that
did the full commercialisation of almost all
technology since, everything from computers,
aircraft, cars, credit cards, jeans, stupid shoes,
T shirts, the phone system, electricity, petrol,
railways, mobile phones, electronics, radio,
TV, the internet, computer software, social
media, nuclear weapons, firearms etc etc etc

We have a vintage machinery field day everyyear in Colyambally and >> almost all of the antique
machinery and cars and trucks are american,
something you don't see with cars anymore

That is Australia and NOT Europe!

It shows how successful american exports
were when america was great

The issue is how one chose to measure the *greatness* of a country.

Dominating the world with machinery exports is certainly
part of that and they still do that with the phone system,
mobile phone technology and the internet and social media
and did that with the electrication of the world previously
and then with commercial aviation

Electrification in Europe had fuck all to do with the US.

But followed american invention and development
of american technology when america was great

For instance:
*Birth of Electric Trains*
"The first electric train was built in 1837 by chemist Robert Davidson > in Scotland. The train was powered by a battery and could carry a small > number of passengers. This marked the beginning of the electric train > era"

A tiny subset of the railway system
And it it was america that first fully commercialised
the diesel electric locos

*First Electric Locomotive*
"Werner von Siemens demonstrated the first electric locomotive in Berlin > in 1879. This marked a significant advancement in electric train > technology and paved the way for the development of electric railways."

And it it was america that first fully commercialised
the diesel electric locos

*Opening of First Electric Tramway*
"The first electric tramway opened in Lichterfelde, Germany in 1881. > This marked the beginning of electric tram systems that would soon > become popular in cities around the world."
Sorry, I won't join you in full on US brown nosing.

No brown nosing involved, just rubbing your stupid
nose in the fact that america really was great at one
time and was the reason so many of you europeans
chose to move there

I won't detract anything from what was achieved in the US but also I > give credits to where due elsewhere.

But is completely irrelevant to what we are discussing,
your original stupidity where you questioned whether
america ever was great
Like I said, of corse it was, and so was britain even
earlier and so was France even earlier than that.
And Hungary never was and never will be

I am sure that the robber barons of US Wild West capitalism were doing >>> just great.

And that did produce a very viable railway system at that time

Pity that wonder build on the sweat and blood of fully exploited > disposable labourers.

So did the british empire when that was great,
and the french empire when it was great, and
so was the spanish empire when it was great,
and so was the roman empire when it was great
and so did the austro hungarian empire when
it was great, and so did communism when it
got started and then imploded completely
That's the way things were done in those days

And *surprise-surprise* that wonder did not last long either.

Bullshit. Its was what made america very great inded right
up to well after WW2 being a crucial part of why the immense
american industrial system could arm and supply the world
and ensure that the allies won that war

Yeah, unsurprisingly over time the US ended up with one of the most > inadequate and almost fully obsolete rail-infrastructure in the > developed world.

Irrelevant to whether america really was great at one time

And Australia was right there with thatvery same distinction until > recent times.

Bullshit with the iron ore trains which are in fact by far
the longest and carry by far the most load in the entire
fucking world, powered by AMERICAN locos

Yeah! the capitalism coin do have two different faces, one is > shiny-gilded and the other one is rusty and covered by shit.

Beats communism which is entirely just steaming turds which
only North Korea is actually stupid enough to stick with anymore

And while I see both sides you desperately want to see only the shiny > one!

More of your stupidity, I have always deplored the
worst aspects of capitalism which we have chosen
to make illegal in every country that matters

But have you ever wondered how the indigenouspopulation (what small >>> fraction was left alive),

The poms did plenty of that too in various places
and only a fool would stupidly try to claim that
the british empire was not great at the time

I certainly was great for the gentry and merchant class.

And the middle class and agriculture etc

Hey, even Marx have not denied that!
It was an entirely different matter for the colonies and its working > poor in the coal mines, eh?

Pity about communism in that regard

Have you read anything from Charles Dickens???

Corse I have

Or do you call his works as wanker crap too?

Nope

what black people and in fact also a large number of of the blown ins >>> from Europe must have thought about working themselves to death for >>> very little personal benefit,

That last is mindless bullshit

None the less inconvenient truth still remains the truth

Its nothing even remotely like truth
Pity about the gulags

even if you turn a blind eye to it. I am sure Mark Twain did not suffer > from this very same affliction!

if any at all. For these people any even tiny ups and downs of the >>> quite unstable extreme US exploitative capitalism must have felt like >>> living hell.

How odd that very few of them chose to return to where
they came from. In fact FAR more of ours chose to do that

Adventurers and misfits prefer a place where they can live out their > most putrid desires.

Migrants aren't adventurers and misfits when they realise
like your parents did that where they chose to migrate to
works a lot better than where they are coming from and
in your case take their brainwashed brat with them

Having said that, there were plenty who have returned back to Europe > completely disillusioned by the discovery of the thinness of the gilded > veneer of US way of life society.

There might just be a reason so many choice
to migrate there from europe.

YAWN! Yes, the myth of the US promised lands were a great attraction >>> for all the misfits and adventurers of Europe.

There was no myth

YAWN!

Wake up dozy or its the cattle prod for you and then off to the gulag for you >>> That also explains how so many of Europe religious loon sects flooded >>> across the ocean creating the extremist nutjobs of the US Bible Belt.

To escape religious persecution and pogroms in europe.

Please try to use a spell checker built into your Usenet client,

It was one, fuckwit

or is that request is beneath your preferred posting style?

Its irrelevant like all your demands because it already has one

Anyhow, there was plenty of religious nuttery going around in Europe > over the centuries of its long history, but the worst of the worst of > them all flocked to the US.

Hardly surprising given they were the most persecuted and pogromed

And while gradually Europe has improved itself those nuts in holy > seppo-land have decided to stay in their self created dark ages.

Hardly surprising given the worst of the religious nutters moved to america

I honestly hope you ain't going to defend here the Bible Belt insanity > like creationism/intelligent design, extreme prudery, science denialism

Corse nothing like that ever happened in europe

and their perfected Xtian fundamentalist hate towards anything that does > not fit in their crazed world views.

Corse nothing like that ever happened in europe with their jewish
pogroms, witch burning, burning heretics at the stake, gulags.
concentration camps, gas chambers and cremation ovens etc etc etc

Hey, they even took with them their dedicated witch-hunters. YAY!

Hardly surprising that any group takes its culture with it, including >> the mafia

Hmmm. Mafia was never a religious faith.

Neither was witch hunting

Yes, it was true that European feudalism was very slow in dying.

And the buggers were quite literally burning each other at the
stake until quite recent times.

What do you mean by recent times???

In that case 1600s which is quite recent as far as religion is concerned> *A History of the Witch Trials in Europe*

<https://localhistories.org/a-history-of-the-witch-trials-in-europe/>
*The end of the Witch Trials*

No news

Some of the german town squares
ended up quite literally with the downwind building coated in human
fat due the witch burning frenzys

Hmmm! You do not get brownie point by over the top exaggerations.

Its a fact, not an exaggeration

But what has happened in Hitler's extermination camps were certainly a > horrible dark point in Europe's history.
Superstition and religious extremism specially when coupled with racism > create the perfect mix to commit atrocities against humanity.

The conversion to full on capitalism in Central and Eastern Europe was >>> quite slow.

That is complete bullshit with britain alone and
the clearances in scotland particularly

Please read more carefully! Since when is Britain/Scotland is located in > Central and Eastern Europe.
Kindly stop manufacturing and then attacking your very own strawman.

That was rubbing your nose in the fact that it wasn't quite
slow in britain and scotland tho it arguably did take longer
in Ireland under the british

Pity you are utterly unwilling and unable to appreciate why things >>> happened in Europe the way they did.

I know why the french and russian revolutions happened
and why nothing like that happened in britain

Different location, different economic conditions, greatly differing > access to resources, different cultural heritage, different political > systems.
Stop being so bloody Anglo-centric!

Go and fuck yourself, again

Maybe you should follow your own adviceand read more about European >>> history.

Been doing that since before you were even born thanks

LOL!
~~~~
*Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Age / The Wisdom of the Ancients*

Irrelevant to your stupidity about what I should do

Specially about the history of the late 18the to early 20th Century.>> Been doing that since before you were even born thanks

Something that didn't happen with your cesspit, Hungary

At least, in Hungary what was good about European culture had remained >>> alive despite the lack of industrial progress in 19th and 20th Century >>> until the in between the two World Wars.

But was never something that hordes of immigrants
chose to move to, unlike america

Ahem. Have you ever heard of the Mongols? How about the Ottomans?The > Hapsburgs? How about the USSR?

None of those were MIGRANTS

They indeed did not want to immigrate to Hungary, they just simply > decided that is was a good idea to conquer it fully by military force > and the keep it for good.

And that wasn't what the MIGRANTS did with america

Admittedly this did not always worked out as desired for the > invader/occupier.
The most successful at it were the Hapsburgs, after all they held > Hungary more or less captive for a few centuries, right till the end of > World War 1, eh?

Again, not MIGRANTS

Unlike the US, Hungary still has not become a cultural cesspit! YAY!>> Yet. It remains to be seen now that Orban has been flushed where he >> belongs

Even Orb|in's and his far-right/alt-right political mobs best efforts to > the contrary Hungary has remained an enlightened Central-European nation > with a rich cultural history going back over a millennium.

But was never GREAT

Neither the US nor Australia (except for their indigenous people) > possess anything like that. All they can do is producing nostalgic rants > about their grand Anglophone heritage.

Were are discussing whether america WAS EVER GREAT

Lucky for Hungary, that despite the devastating loss of territories, >>> repeated economic collapses, tremendous loss of lives and civilian >>> infrastructure caused the ravages of wars from starting with >>> revolution and war of independence against the Hapsburg rule in >>> 1848-49 until 1945 and beyond in 1956 it could survive at all, despite >>> Russian occupation that only ended in 1989.

It remains to be seen now that Orban has been flushed where he belongs

I really-really do not see anyone crazy enough the try to invade Hungary > any time soon.

The EU has chosen to try to monster Hungary into doing
what it demands it does, particularly with regard to allowing
illegals into the country and it looks like Magyar is going to
be stupid enough to cave into that demand

Anywho, Hungary is both an EU and NATO member state which provide some > much needed security for the county.

Irrelevant to whether it was ever GREAT and whether anyone
is actually stupid enough to want to MIGRATE there

If in nothing else, Hungary has proven its *great* resilience against >>> ruthless exploitative meddling threatening its independence and mere >>> existence.

It remains to be seen now that Orban has been flushed where he belongs

Is your record somehow broken? You keep repeating the same sentence as > if it was a magic chant or somethin'!
I have already responded to it above, so stop it!

Go and fuck yourself, again

What Hungarian learned out of their less then stellar history is >>> humility that is utterly lacking amongst the septics.
You can't make me upset whatsoever by dumping shit on my country of >>> birth,

I didn't dump any shit, I just rubbed your nose
in the fact that it clearly didn't interest the vast
bulk of europe like america did when it was great

I never said Hungary was specially great, ever!

I rubbed your nose in the fact that while america
certainly was once, Hungary never ever was and
was in fact at most a dag hanging off the back of
the austro hungarian empire than no one was
ever actually stupid enough to want to migrate
to, unlike america, which still is on migration

I am not an obsessed nationalist nor fanatical patriot of any nation or > country.
Historically speaking Hungary was only ever relevant from the Central > European perspectives, ergo to its nearest immediate neighbours. And I > find nothing exceptional nor wrong with that fact. Alas you have missed > your attack target by miles.

There was no attack target

firstly because I have become absolutely cosmopolitan and secondly >>> because I always have been very critical of Hungary.
So there you go, Rod, failing big time!

Just another of your pathetic little fantasy

The newsgroup already knows that your over-inflated ego has no bounds.Just another of your pathetic little fantasy

I don't have any national pride nor even a tiny bit of manufactured >>> *patriotic pathos* in my blood! :-P

Me neither

Not quite!

Wrong, as always

You are obsessed with a sort of Anglophone superiority nonsense

Just another of your pathetic little fantasy

even if you do not admit it.

Of course, MAGAts and US brown-nosers fully swallowed hook line and >>>>> thinker the immenseUS-Greatness kool-aid, but sadly it was >>>>> becausethey were unable to tell the fundamental difference between >>>>> facts and fiction!
*Pete HegsethrCOs History Howler: What America really did (and didnrCOt) >>>>> win*

Just because that fool said something...

YAWN! Just a little search for direct sources (no fucking AI involved) >>> would point you out the countless myth/misconceptions >>> circulatingabout the over-glorified septics' role in the two world >>> wars.

Don't need to do any searching and even you should be able to
find the comments I have made about that stuff on youtube where
I list as Rod S and on facebook which is much harder to search

Nope! No thanks. I won't look for your YouTube output,

As always, you close your eyes to the evidence of your stupid claims

nor will I ever touch social media shit like FaceBook!
I simply search original internet content such as in Google Scholar and > similar.

Useless when making claims about what I have said

Much better than digging through endless opinionated commentaries.

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Rod Speed
Pearl Harbour in the greater scheme of things equates to a border
skirmish when compared to how whole European countries were devastated
by the ravages of War. Pearl Harbour did more damage to the already
oversized septic ego than to the US economy/infrastructure.

Rubbish

Care to name all those (your imaginary long lists) of US cities plus
other basic infrastructure that has been significantly damaged by the
Japs in World War 2, anything even remotely similar to the damage done
to Europe, Petz dear!

If you can't come up if anything even remotely factual than you better
fuck off back to your GoonBag binge!

/snip/

And the manpower provided by the USSR, eh?

They were starving till the Americans/Australia/NZ transported
supplied them with food boots clothing, machinery, aircraft, guns
ammunition.

Nobody denies that the war against the Axis forces was won by a joined international effort. But denying that manpower matters at all and that
Russia supplied the bulk of boots on the ground against Hitler is
typically biased bullcrap.

Try to hide better your hatred of Russia a bit better, Petz dear!

/snip/

We have a machinery field day every year in
Colyambally and almost all of the antique
machinery and cars and trucks are american,
something you don't see with cars anymore

That is Australia and NOT Europe! Next!

rubbish

Care to locate Colyambally on the map of Europe for me?
If you can't, maybe it is high time for you to fuck off back to your
GoonBag binge, Petz dear!

The issue is how one chose to measure the *greatness* of a country.

Dominating the world with machinery exports is certainly
part of that and they still do that with the phone system,
mobile phone technology and the internet and social media
and did that with the electrication of the world previously
and then with commercial aviation

Electrification in Europe had fuck all to do with the US.

For instance:

*Birth of Electric Trains*
"The first electric train was built in 1837 by chemist Robert Davidson
in Scotland. The train was powered by a battery and could carry a small
number of passengers. This marked the beginning of the electric train era" >>
*First Electric Locomotive*
"Werner von Siemens demonstrated the first electric locomotive in Berlin
in 1879. This marked a significant advancement in electric train
technology and paved the way for the development of electric railways."

*Opening of First Electric Tramway*
"The first electric tramway opened in Lichterfelde, Germany in 1881.
This marked the beginning of electric tram systems that would soon
become popular in cities around the world."

Sorry, I won't join you in full on US brown nosing. I won't detract
anything from what was achieved in the US but also I give credits to
where due elsewhere.

That had nothing to do with Soviet Russia, the Czar maybe

What the fuck are you talking about again, Petz dear?

Did you read (and what is more important, actually comprehend) what the discussion was about at all???

I responded to the assertion Rod made about US superiority in the electrification of the world. I called his bluff and pointed out its
bullshit nature!
And it clearly had fuck all to do with you morbid fixation on Russia!

snip endless drivel

Good idea!
Does it also mean that you are going to snip all the drivel you intended
to post to the newsgroup in the future?
Would be be really-really nice of you Petz dear!!
:-P
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+rd%g

Rod Speed
Pearl Harbour in the greater scheme of things equates to a border
skirmish when compared to how whole European countries were devastated
by the ravages of War. Pearl Harbour did more damage to the already
oversized septic ego than to the US economy/infrastructure.

Rubbish

Care to name all those (your imaginary long lists) of US cities plus
other basic infrastructure that has been significantly damaged by the
Japs in World War 2, anything even remotely similar to the damage done
to Europe, Petz dear!

If you can't come up if anything even remotely factual than you better
fuck off back to your GoonBag binge!

You are out with your mindless interpretation of commie Fairies as
always.

Japan did not have the resources to launch an extensive mainland
campaign, meaning no major US cities were significantly damaged.
However, the Japanese military launched several direct attacks on US territories and outlying areas:Honolulu, Hawaii,
The surprise attack on Pearl Harbor severely damaged the US Pacific
Fleet, destroying multiple battleships, airfields, and military
infrastructure (Dec 7, 1941
But
Dutch Harbor, Alaska, Japanese carrier aircraft heavily bombed this
strategic naval and military base, causing significant structural
damage (June 3u4, 1942). Attu and Kiska,

Alaska Japanese forces invaded and occupied these two Aleutian
Islands, causing severe infrastructure damage and forcing a prolonged
US and Canadian military campaign to retake them (June 1942uAugust
1943).
Estevan Point, Canada: The Imperial Japanese Navy submarine I-26
shelled the Estevan Point Lighthouse on Vancouver Island, marking the
first time enemy fire hit North American shores.

Fort Stevens, Oregon Submarine I-25 shelled this US Army fort, though
the artillery fell short and caused no major structural damage.
Oregon Coast. The same submarine, I-25, launched incendiary bombs into
the forests of the Klamath Mountains near Mount Emily to start forest
fires.

/snip/

And the manpower provided by the USSR, eh?

They were starving till the Americans/Australia/NZ transported
supplied them with food boots clothing, machinery, aircraft, guns
ammunition.

Nobody denies that the war against the Axis forces was won by a joined >international effort. But denying that manpower matters at all and that >Russia supplied the bulk of boots on the ground against Hitler is
typically biased bullcrap.

Try to hide better your hatred of Russia a bit better, Petz dear!

not met with a Russian yet I have not gotten on with, communist or not
Around 30 of them in Sydney. More than you know, if you did you would
be locked in the boot of your car, abandoned on a bridge.
You keep dreaming the most deceitful shit up to denigrate everyone and
anyone that points you out for being the idiot you are!

/snip/

We have a machinery field day every year in
Colyambally and almost all of the antique
machinery and cars and trucks are american,
something you don't see with cars anymore

That is Australia and NOT Europe! Next!

rubbish

Care to locate Colyambally on the map of Europe for me?
If you can't, maybe it is high time for you to fuck off back to your
GoonBag binge, Petz dear!

The connection of Australia in Europe was they were fighting Nazi's
the day before Britain was idiot.

The issue is how one chose to measure the *greatness* of a country.

Dominating the world with machinery exports is certainly
part of that and they still do that with the phone system,
mobile phone technology and the internet and social media
and did that with the electrication of the world previously
and then with commercial aviation

Electrification in Europe had fuck all to do with the US.

For instance:

*Birth of Electric Trains*
"The first electric train was built in 1837 by chemist Robert Davidson
in Scotland. The train was powered by a battery and could carry a small
number of passengers. This marked the beginning of the electric train era" >>>
*First Electric Locomotive*
"Werner von Siemens demonstrated the first electric locomotive in Berlin >>> in 1879. This marked a significant advancement in electric train
technology and paved the way for the development of electric railways."

*Opening of First Electric Tramway*
"The first electric tramway opened in Lichterfelde, Germany in 1881.
This marked the beginning of electric tram systems that would soon
become popular in cities around the world."

Sorry, I won't join you in full on US brown nosing. I won't detract
anything from what was achieved in the US but also I give credits to
where due elsewhere.

That had nothing to do with Soviet Russia, the Czar maybe

What the fuck are you talking about again, Petz dear?

Did you read (and what is more important, actually comprehend) what the >discussion was about at all???

I responded to the assertion Rod made about US superiority in the >electrification of the world. I called his bluff and pointed out its >bullshit nature!
And it clearly had fuck all to do with you morbid fixation on Russia!

All your comments were referring to the 19th Century (pre-1900's) WWII
was in the 20th Century idiot fuckwit and that's insulting idiot
fuckwits who are ALL superior to you!

snip endless drivel

Good idea!
Does it also mean that you are going to snip all the drivel you intended
to post to the newsgroup in the future?
Would be be really-really nice of you Petz dear!!
:-P

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Petzl
**On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord, one thousand, eight
hundred and eighty-three.
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died**
Cultural Marxism aims
1. The creation of racism offenses.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
5. Huge immigration and multiculturalism to destroy a countries
identity.
6. The promotion of drug taking (while pretending it is bad)
7. Emptying of churches
(Only the Christian churches as the underlying basis of our society is
Judaeo Christian) Other religions are to be promoted and protected.
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime (Soft sentencing, revolving doors, more concern for the welfare of criminals
than victims)
9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family by:
(a) Attack the authority of the father.
(b) deny the specific roles of father and mother.
(c) Wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of
their children.
(d) Abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
(e) Abolish all forms of male dominance
(f) Declare women to be an 'oppressed class' and men as 'oppressors'

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Alzheimer Rod as per usual

|urd||g

/snip/

Nope! No thanks. I won't look for your YouTube output,

As always, you close your eyes to the evidence of your stupid claims

Your opinions are no evidence for anything else but your opinions!
NEXT!

nor will I ever touch social media shit like FaceBook!

Useless when making claims about what I have said

I am only responding to you about what you post in this forum.
I could not give a flying fuck about what you say or post elsewhere out
in the real world or in cyberspace!

That is and always will remain my bottom line!

In the mean time, your bottom line is limitless US brown nosing with
some sort of badly disguised Anglophone superiority complex, a hugely
over inflated ego coupled with dementia driven anger management issues.
The ad hom abuse of other posters is your best effort "argument" most of
the time and anything beyond that is basically just mediocre hard
capitalist fully opinionated dump. I am sure you always very diligent at polishing your blinkers!

Anywho, this thread has now devolved to the point where you must have
started to frothing around the mouth and basically only responding to
the dementia driven angry voices in your head! YAWN!

Enjoy your own tantrum! :-P
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Pretzel wrote

+rd%g

Rod Speed
Pearl Harbour in the greater scheme of things equates to a border
skirmish when compared to how whole European countries were devastated
by the ravages of War. Pearl Harbour did more damage to the already
oversized septic ego than to the US economy/infrastructure.

Rubbish

Care to name all those (your imaginary long lists) of US cities plus > other basic infrastructure that has been significantly damaged by the > Japs in World War 2,

Pearl Harbor, stupid

anything even remotely similar to the damage done to Europe, Petz dear!

Irrelevant to your stupidity about a border skirmish

And the manpower provided by the USSR, eh?

They were starving till the Americans/Australia/NZ transported
supplied them with food boots clothing, machinery, aircraft, guns
ammunition.

Nobody denies that the war against the Axis forces was won by a joined > international effort. But denying that manpower matters at all

No one ever did that

and that Russia supplied the bulk of boots on the ground against Hitler

or that either

The issue is how one chose to measure the *greatness* of a country.

Dominating the world with machinery exports is certainly
part of that and they still do that with the phone system,
mobile phone technology and the internet and social media
and did that with the electrication of the world previously
and then with commercial aviation

Electrification in Europe had fuck all to do with the US.

Wrong given that electrification and the
distribution of it was invented in america
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The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@hell.biz> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

+rd%g wrote

<reams of the peurile shit you always end up
spewing when you have got done like a fucking
dinner, as always, flushed where it belongs>
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<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@hell.biz> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

+rd%g wrote

<reams of the peurile shit you always end up
spewing when you have got done like a fucking
dinner, as always, flushed where it belongs>

Yes +rd%g was "done like a fucking dinner"
Loved it, thank you.
--
Now under the commie troll name
"The Newsgroup Devil"
+rd%g the Armchair communist
https://youtu.be/I-aQkAzTJSs?si=nb1vHyJ7a6ImK0zt

As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians
and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical

Communists View the Church as a Huge, Huge Firewall
Against What They Want to Do
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Petz

|urd||g

Petz

|urd||g

Rod Speed
Pearl Harbour in the greater scheme of things equates to a border
skirmish when compared to how whole European countries were devastated >>>> by the ravages of War. Pearl Harbour did more damage to the already
oversized septic ego than to the US economy/infrastructure.

Rubbish

Care to name all those (your imaginary long lists) of US cities plus
other basic infrastructure that has been significantly damaged by the
Japs in World War 2, anything even remotely similar to the damage done
to Europe, Petz dear!

If you can't come up if anything even remotely factual than you better
fuck off back to your GoonBag binge!

You are out with your mindless interpretation of commie Fairies as
always.

Nothing I have posted so far in this thread has anything to do with
communism. But hey, the newsgroup already knows you have fuck all idea
about what communism is, and also recognises your complete lack of
reading comprehension.

So according to you, the US must have suffered World War 2 damage to the
same or even greater scale than Europe did?

Do you mean like these:

<https://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2013/12/berlin_ww2-P.jpeg>

<https://docs.rferl.org/Infographics/2020/2020_05/2020_05_Budapest/05b.jpg>

<https://cdn.thecollector.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/warsaw-destruction-1945.jpg?width=1200&quality=100&dpr=2>

<https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/nRoAAOSwqu9VSs2U/s-l1600.jpg>

Did San Francisco, Chicago, Atlanta, Washington DC or New York looked
anything like that in World War 2 ???

Or do you suggest that these images are all fakes created by lowlife
subhuman evil US hating communists?

Can you even comprehend differences in scales of destruction in your inebriated and with GoonBag Fairies overpopulated mind?

<snip>

Nobody denies that the war against the Axis forces was won by a joined
international effort. But denying that manpower matters at all and that
Russia supplied the bulk of boots on the ground against Hitler is
typically biased bullcrap.

Try to hide better your hatred of Russia a bit better, Petz dear!

not met with a Russian yet ... blah!

Utterly irrelevant anecdotal crap to the hate infused bullshit you
regularly spew in this newsgroup!

/snip verbal vomit/

Care to locate Colyambally on the map of Europe for me?
If you can't, maybe it is high time for you to fuck off back to your
GoonBag binge, Petz dear!

The connection of Australia in Europe was they were fighting Nazi's
the day before Britain was idiot.

Clearly you have no fucking clue why Colyambally was even mentioned in
this thread at all. This nonsense came about because of Rod's US
greatness brown nosing arguments, and had fucking nothing to do with
World War 2 per se, you idiot!

But none the less I take the bait! So please try to list all those
*European* locations where Australians were fighting Nazis even before
Britain did?

Go on! I am waiting...waiting...waiting with great expectation of
hearing of what those amazing GoonBag fairies told you!

What the fuck are you talking about again, Petz dear?
Did you read (and what is more important, actually comprehend) what the
discussion was about at all???

I responded to the assertion Rod made about US superiority in the
electrification of the world. I called his bluff and pointed out its
bullshit nature!
And it clearly had fuck all to do with your morbid fixation on Russia!

All your comments were referring to the 19th Century (pre-1900's) WWII
was in the 20th Century idiot fuckwit and that's insulting idiot
fuckwits who are ALL superior to you!

Who needs more proof for your absolute lack of reading comprehension!
Those GoonBag fairies created an frighteningly horrid brew in your
inebriated mind about all those things that were mentioned in this thread.

Please try again when you are somewhat more sober and your hate filled
rage cooled off just a little bit!

Here, just a few pointers to the right direction:

It was Rod who brought into discussion the world electrification as some
sort of amazing US achievement proving its absolute superiority over
anyone else on the planet. I was only responding to his bullshit
assertions. In itself, that had fuck all to do with the World Wars.

I simply do not subscribe to any sort of US greatness, not in historical context nor in the 20th century nor now under the Orange Emperor's.

The US never was great, hence any sort of assertion about making it
great again I regard as an absolute oxymoron. Brutal military might does
not make any country great for its people, nor does out of control
robber baron capitalism.

And as far as any human beings capable of cool headed rational thinking
are concerned no person nor country is superior to anyone else. We are
all humans.
That is the bottom line.

If Rod or you don't like it then please fuck off from this planet ASAP.
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Alzheimer Rod in full rage best

<reams of the peurile shit you always end up
spewing when you have got done like a fucking
dinner, as always, flushed where it belongs>

Watch that blood pressure rising, Alzheimer!
:-P
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Your unfriendly newsgroup devil at your service
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Yes |urd||g was "done like a fucking dinner"

Have you even comprehend what was discussed in this thread.
You pathetic inputs so far certainly didn't give that impression.

Loved it, thank you.

Yes, the newsgroup already knows you limitless love directed towards
your GoonBags more than towards anything else on this plane of
existence, Petz dear!

:-P
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Your fully amused newsgroup devil at your service
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Alzheimer Rod interjection

+rd%g

Care to name all those (your imaginary long lists) of US cities plus
other basic infrastructure that has been significantly damaged by the
Japs in World War 2,

Pearl Harbor, stupid

Is that a long list of cities in your demented mind?

anything even remotely similar to the damage done to Europe, Petz dear!

Irrelevant to your stupidity about a border skirmish

No its not. Even after the Pearl Harbour attack, the rest of 99.9% of US cities and infrastructures has remained fully untouched by the war. That
was clearly nothing like the destruction experienced by European
countries. Only self deluded idiots like you or Petz would not
comprehend that simple fact.

/snip/

Nobody denies that the war against the Axis forces was won by a joined
international effort. But denying that manpower matters at all

No one ever did that

and thataa Russia supplied the bulk of boots on the ground against Hitler

or that either

So what's your trouble? Missed out on today's prescribed doze on anti-Alzheimer meds, have you?

Wrong given that electrification and the
distribution of it was invented in america

That is not what you have initially asserted. Your assertion was that US brought electrification to the World, which is semantically an entirely different concept. Just because a country produced some inventions based
on pre-dating scientific/technological technological knowledge from
somewhere else, that does not make it necessarily the only provider and
whole the distributor of that technology across the planet.
Certainly that was NOT the case with electricity: "https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/who-invented-electricty"

In any case, the similar is true for the Diesel engine too! <https://www.britannica.com/beography/Rudolf-Diesel>
Just because it was a German invention it did not make Germany "great"
in any way!

Your so called desperate arguments trying to prove US superiority in all things under the sun, do not hold up too good, Alzheimer!

Just ask yourself that simple question: Did the invention of Wi-Fi make Australia in any tangible way noticeably "great" in the World?
Of course, it did not!

So there you go! :-P
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Your unrelenting newsgroup devil at your service
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On 20/07/2026 9:19 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:

<Snip>

snip endless drivel

Good idea!
Does it also mean that you are going to snip all the drivel you intended
to post to the newsgroup in the future?
Would be be really-really nice of you Petz dear!!
:-P

And, talking of Snipping, why doesn't Petzl SNIP some/ALL of his 30'ish
line long Sig File?? I believe four/five lines is an acceptable length.
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On 20/07/2026 9:48 am, Petzl wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 01:19:51 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

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|urd||g

Rod Speed

<Snip>

We have a machinery field day every year in
Colyambally and almost all of the antique
machinery and cars and trucks are american,
something you don't see with cars anymore

That is Australia and NOT Europe! Next!

rubbish

Care to locate Colyambally on the map of Europe for me?
If you can't, maybe it is high time for you to fuck off back to your
GoonBag binge, Petz dear!

The connection of Australia in Europe was they were fighting Nazi's
the day before Britain was idiot.

Sorry!! WHAT?? Who were the Aussies fighting along side of if Britain
had yet to join the War, Petzl?? The French?? The Danes?? The Russians??
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 17:29:58 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 20/07/2026 9:48 am, Petzl wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 01:19:51 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

# /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
# /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

+rd%g

Rod Speed

<Snip>

We have a machinery field day every year in
Colyambally and almost all of the antique
machinery and cars and trucks are american,
something you don't see with cars anymore

That is Australia and NOT Europe! Next!

rubbish

Care to locate Colyambally on the map of Europe for me?
If you can't, maybe it is high time for you to fuck off back to your
GoonBag binge, Petz dear!

The connection of Australia in Europe was they were fighting Nazi's
the day before Britain was idiot.

Sorry!! WHAT?? Who were the Aussies fighting along side of if Britain
had yet to join the War, Petzl?? The French?? The Danes?? The Russians??

They were fighting with just themselves, Churchill wanted to keep
Britsh casualties down.

Because of the international date line, Canberra, Australia, in WWII
was always the day befoe yhe time in UK.
But you knew that Daniel70 you are not stupid.
--
Petzl
It's hard to win an argument with a smart person but it's damn near impossible to win
an argument with a stupid person

When you're dead, you don't know you're dead.
The pain is felt by others.

The same thing happens when you're stupid
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 17:20:34 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 20/07/2026 9:19 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:

<Snip>

snip endless drivel

Good idea!
Does it also mean that you are going to snip all the drivel you intended
to post to the newsgroup in the future?
Would be be really-really nice of you Petz dear!!
:-P

And, talking of Snipping, why doesn't Petzl SNIP some/ALL of his 30'ish
line long Sig File?? I believe four/five lines is an acceptable length.

believe in what you want, +rd%g does.
--
Petzl
What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply coincidence?
The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?
There is no Grand meaning? There is no purpose?

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!
If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,
there would be no stars no planets!

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!
If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?

It is hardly surprising that given billions of suns
and even more planets, that sometimes some
are at the right distance for life as WE know it
to have formed and it isnt just the one distance
either given that we know that it also formed
on Mars and on at least one other sun's planet

All simply coincidence?

Yep

The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?

Yep

There is no Grand meaning?

Yep

There is no purpose?

Yep

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!

Bullshit

If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,

It is flying apart

there would be no stars no planets!

Bullshit

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!

Bullshit

If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!

Bullshit
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 06:15:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?

It is hardly surprising that given billions of suns
and even more planets, that sometimes some
are at the right distance for life as WE know it
to have formed and it isnt just the one distance
either given that we know that it also formed
on Mars and on at least one other sun's planet

All simply coincidence?

Yep

The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?

Yep

There is no Grand meaning?

Yep

There is no purpose?

Yep

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!

Bullshit

If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,

It is flying apart

there would be no stars no planets!

Bullshit

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!

Bullshit

If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!

Bullshit

Used your AI of Choice GROK
It agrees with my perception on Gravity <https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_4262234c-51ce-48a6-8a6a-809eb05d9a64>
https://tinyurl.com/a45ms326
Summery
The fine-tuning is real and quantified in the literatureuit's not
"exactly 1%" in every formulation, but the user's point holds: small
deviations break the conditions for stars, planets, and chemistry as
we know them.
It's one of the deepest puzzles in physics. What aspect intrigues you mostuspecific constants, multiverse ideas, or something else?
--
"To err is human,
but to really foul things up requires a computer."
English poet Alexander Pope 1711.
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?

It is hardly surprising that given billions of suns
and even more planets, that sometimes some
are at the right distance for life as WE know it
to have formed and it isnt just the one distance
either given that we know that it also formed
on Mars and on at least one other sun's planet

All simply coincidence?

Yep

The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?

Yep

There is no Grand meaning?

Yep

There is no purpose?

Yep

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!

Bullshit

If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,

It is flying apart

there would be no stars no planets!

Bullshit

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!

Bullshit

If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!

Bullshit

Used your AI of Choice GROK
It agrees with my perception on Gravity

Bullshit it does

<https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_4262234c-51ce-48a6-8a6a-809eb05d9a64>
https://tinyurl.com/a45ms326
Summery

It says nothing like this 'summary'

The fine-tuning is real and quantified in the literaturerCoit's not
"exactly 1%" in every formulation, but the user's point holds: small deviations break the conditions for stars, planets, and chemistry as
we know them.

Pity that the universe is indeed expanding
So much for your stupid claim that gravity has
been perfectly designed so that doesn't happen
And grok says absolutely NOTHING about your even more stupid
claim that its all perfectly designed for life on just this planet

It's one of the deepest puzzles in physics.

Its no puzzel at all, that's just the way it happened
No need for any creator and fools who believe in some brilliant
creator need to explain where that creator came from

What aspect intrigues you mostrCospecific constants,multiverse ideas, or > something else?

Nothing, nada, zero, ziltch
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 07:13:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?

It is hardly surprising that given billions of suns
and even more planets, that sometimes some
are at the right distance for life as WE know it
to have formed and it isnt just the one distance
either given that we know that it also formed
on Mars and on at least one other sun's planet

All simply coincidence?

Yep

The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?

Yep

There is no Grand meaning?

Yep

There is no purpose?

Yep

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!

Bullshit

If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,

It is flying apart

there would be no stars no planets!

Bullshit

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!

Bullshit

If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!

Bullshit

Used your AI of Choice GROK
It agrees with my perception on Gravity

Bullshit it does

<https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_4262234c-51ce-48a6-8a6a-809eb05d9a64>
https://tinyurl.com/a45ms326

Summery

It says nothing like this 'summary'

The fine-tuning is real and quantified in the literatureuit's not
"exactly 1%" in every formulation, but the user's point holds: small
deviations break the conditions for stars, planets, and chemistry as
we know them.

Pity that the universe is indeed expanding

So much for your stupid claim that gravity has
been perfectly designed so that doesn't happen

And grok says absolutely NOTHING about your even more stupid
claim that its all perfectly designed for life on just this planet

It's one of the deepest puzzles in physics.

Its no puzzel at all, that's just the way it happened

No need for any creator and fools who believe in some brilliant
creator need to explain where that creator came from

What aspect intrigues you mostuspecific constants,multiverse ideas, or >> something else?

Nothing, nada, zero, ziltch

GROK sums you up well
The "USENET clown" dismissal is classic pattern-matching:
label it pseudoscience or "God of the gaps" and move on.
But the fine-tuning literature is seriousupeer-reviewed papers by
working cosmologists and particle physicists (Adams, Rees, Weinberg,
etc.) mapping the viable parameter space.

It's not settled, and some ranges are broader than pop-sci claims
(viable universes exist with variations), but the clustering of
life-permitting conditions is striking and unexplained by current
fundamental theory
--
Petzl
The Greens have never done anything worthwhile to this country.
All they are known for is being an arm of the ALP and handing them and
vice versa, preferences at election time.

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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?

It is hardly surprising that given billions of suns
and even more planets, that sometimes some
are at the right distance for life as WE know it
to have formed and it isnt just the one distance
either given that we know that it also formed
on Mars and on at least one other sun's planet

All simply coincidence?

Yep

The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?

Yep

There is no Grand meaning?

Yep

There is no purpose?

Yep

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!

Bullshit

If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,

It is flying apart

there would be no stars no planets!

Bullshit

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!

Bullshit

If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!

Bullshit

Used your AI of Choice GROK
It agrees with my perception on Gravity

Bullshit it does

<https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_4262234c-51ce-48a6-8a6a-809eb05d9a64> >>> https://tinyurl.com/a45ms326
Summery

It says nothing like this 'summary'

The fine-tuning is real and quantified in the literaturerCoit's not
"exactly 1%" in every formulation, but the user's point holds: small>>> deviations break the conditions for stars, planets, and chemistry as>>> we know them.

Pity that the universe is indeed expanding
So much for your stupid claim that gravity has
been perfectly designed so that doesn't happen
And grok says absolutely NOTHING about your even more stupid
claim that its all perfectly designed for life on just this planet

It's one of the deepest puzzles in physics.

Its no puzzel at all, that's just the way it happened
No need for any creator and fools who believe in some brilliant
creator need to explain where that creator came from

What aspect intrigues you mostrCospecific constants,multiverse ideas, >>> or something else?

Nothing, nada, zero, ziltch

GROK sums you up well
The "USENET clown" dismissal is classic pattern-matching:
label it pseudoscience or "God of the gaps" and move on.

Grok never ever said anything even remotely like that
either you pathetic excuse for a pathological liar

But the fine-tuning literature is seriousrCopeer-reviewed papers by
working cosmologists and particle physicists (Adams, Rees, Weinberg,
etc.) mapping the viable parameter space.

None of which mindlessly spew any of that shit you spewed
and all of which realise that the universe is indeed EXPANDING

It's not settled, and some ranges are broader than pop-sci claims
(viable universes exist with variations), but the clustering of life-permitting conditions is striking and unexplained by current
fundamental theory More bullshit

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On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 08:00:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?

It is hardly surprising that given billions of suns
and even more planets, that sometimes some
are at the right distance for life as WE know it
to have formed and it isnt just the one distance
either given that we know that it also formed
on Mars and on at least one other sun's planet

All simply coincidence?

Yep

The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?

Yep

There is no Grand meaning?

Yep

There is no purpose?

Yep

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!

Bullshit

If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,

It is flying apart

there would be no stars no planets!

Bullshit

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!

Bullshit

If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!

Bullshit

Used your AI of Choice GROK
It agrees with my perception on Gravity

Bullshit it does

<https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_4262234c-51ce-48a6-8a6a-809eb05d9a64> >>>> https://tinyurl.com/a45ms326

Summery

It says nothing like this 'summary'

The fine-tuning is real and quantified in the literatureuit's not
"exactly 1%" in every formulation, but the user's point holds: small
deviations break the conditions for stars, planets, and chemistry as
we know them.

Pity that the universe is indeed expanding

So much for your stupid claim that gravity has
been perfectly designed so that doesn't happen

And grok says absolutely NOTHING about your even more stupid
claim that its all perfectly designed for life on just this planet

It's one of the deepest puzzles in physics.

Its no puzzel at all, that's just the way it happened

No need for any creator and fools who believe in some brilliant
creator need to explain where that creator came from

What aspect intrigues you mostuspecific constants,multiverse ideas, >>>> or something else?

Nothing, nada, zero, ziltch

GROK sums you up well
The "USENET clown" dismissal is classic pattern-matching:
label it pseudoscience or "God of the gaps" and move on.

Grok never ever said anything even remotely like that
either you pathetic excuse for a pathological liar

But the fine-tuning literature is seriousupeer-reviewed papers by
working cosmologists and particle physicists (Adams, Rees, Weinberg,
etc.) mapping the viable parameter space.

None of which mindlessly spew any of that shit you spewed
and all of which realise that the universe is indeed EXPANDING

It's not settled, and some ranges are broader than pop-sci claims
(viable universes exist with variations), but the clustering of
life-permitting conditions is striking and unexplained by current
fundamental theory

More bullshit

You can lok up the link
GROK asked why I'm interested I replied
"Just a USENET clown stamping it as being "Bullshit".
aI know it's not"
and replied <https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_4262234c-51ce-48a6-8a6a-809eb05d9a64>
https://tinyurl.com/a45ms326
The "USENET clown" dismissal is classic pattern-matching:
label it pseudoscience or "God of the gaps" and move on.
But the fine-tuning literature is seriousupeer-reviewed papers by
working cosmologists and particle physicists (Adams, Rees, Weinberg,
etc.) mapping the viable parameter space.

It's not settled, and some ranges are broader than pop-sci claims
(viable universes exist with variations), but the clustering of
life-permitting conditions is striking and unexplained by current
fundamental theory
--
Petzl
Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no
murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to
shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different

"Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism
paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating
different!.
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?

It is hardly surprising that given billions of suns
and even more planets, that sometimes some
are at the right distance for life as WE know it
to have formed and it isnt just the one distance
either given that we know that it also formed
on Mars and on at least one other sun's planet

All simply coincidence?

Yep

The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?

Yep

There is no Grand meaning?

Yep

There is no purpose?

Yep

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!

Bullshit

If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,

It is flying apart

there would be no stars no planets!

Bullshit

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!

Bullshit

If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!

Bullshit

Used your AI of Choice GROK
It agrees with my perception on Gravity

Bullshit it does

<https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_4262234c-51ce-48a6-8a6a-809eb05d9a64> >>>>> https://tinyurl.com/a45ms326
Summery

It says nothing like this 'summary'

The fine-tuning is real and quantified in the literaturerCoit's not
"exactly 1%" in every formulation, but the user's point holds: small >>>>> deviations break the conditions for stars, planets, and chemistry as >>>>> we know them.

Pity that the universe is indeed expanding
So much for your stupid claim that gravity has
been perfectly designed so that doesn't happen
And grok says absolutely NOTHING about your even more stupid
claim that its all perfectly designed for life on just this planet

It's one of the deepest puzzles in physics.

Its no puzzel at all, that's just the way it happened
No need for any creator and fools who believe in some brilliant
creator need to explain where that creator came from

What aspect intrigues you mostrCospecific constants,multiverse ideas, >>>>> or something else?

Nothing, nada, zero, ziltch

GROK sums you up well
The "USENET clown" dismissal is classic pattern-matching:
label it pseudoscience or "God of the gaps" and move on.

Grok never ever said anything even remotely like that
either you pathetic excuse for a pathological liar

But the fine-tuning literature is seriousrCopeer-reviewed papers by
working cosmologists and particle physicists (Adams, Rees, Weinberg,>>> etc.) mapping the viable parameter space.

None of which mindlessly spew any of that shit you spewed
and all of which realise that the universe is indeed EXPANDING

It's not settled, and some ranges are broader than pop-sci claims
(viable universes exist with variations), but the clustering of
life-permitting conditions is striking and unexplained by current
fundamental theory >> More bullshit

You can lok up the link
GROK asked why I'm interested I replied
"Just a USENET clown stamping it as being "Bullshit".
I know it's not"
and replied <https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_4262234c-51ce-48a6-8a6a-809eb05d9a64>
https://tinyurl.com/a45ms326
The "USENET clown" dismissal is classic pattern-matching:

That is talking about YOU, fuckwit

label it pseudoscience or "God of the gaps" and move on.
But the fine-tuning literature is seriousrCopeer-reviewed papers by
working cosmologists and particle physicists (Adams, Rees, Weinberg,
etc.) mapping the viable parameter space.

Pity about
https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_93ab5182-14f2-42f1-ae0d-2e3c25711279
which is nothing even remotely like your original shit

It's not settled, and some ranges are broader than pop-sci claims
(viable universes exist with variations), but the clustering of life-permitting conditions is striking and unexplained by current
fundamental theory which is nothing even remotely like your original shit

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On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 09:13:04 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

You can lok up the link
GROK asked why I'm interested I replied
"Just a USENET clown stamping it as being "Bullshit".
I know it's not"
and replied
<https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_4262234c-51ce-48a6-8a6a-809eb05d9a64>
https://tinyurl.com/a45ms326
The "USENET clown" dismissal is classic pattern-matching:

That is talking about YOU, fuckwit

label it pseudoscience or "God of the gaps" and move on.

But the fine-tuning literature is seriousupeer-reviewed papers by
working cosmologists and particle physicists (Adams, Rees, Weinberg,
etc.) mapping the viable parameter space.

Pity about >https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_93ab5182-14f2-42f1-ae0d-2e3c25711279
which is nothing even remotely like your original shit

It's not settled, and some ranges are broader than pop-sci claims
(viable universes exist with variations), but the clustering of
life-permitting conditions is striking and unexplained by current
fundamental theory

which is nothing even remotely like your original shit

Lying twisting and spinning. scared of when you meet you maker Rod.
The original question to GROK and Grok answered to was
...
If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!
If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,
there would be no stars no planets!
Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!
If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!
...
Which GROK stated was absolute fact and stated
Rod Speed is a "USENET clown"
dismissal is classic pattern-matching:
label it pseudoscience or "God of the gaps" and move on.
--
Petzl

Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
major depression, and two world wars.
Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 08:46:21 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 08:00:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?

It is hardly surprising that given billions of suns
and even more planets, that sometimes some
are at the right distance for life as WE know it
to have formed and it isnt just the one distance
either given that we know that it also formed
on Mars and on at least one other sun's planet

All simply coincidence?

Yep

The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?

Yep

There is no Grand meaning?

Yep

There is no purpose?

Yep

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!

Bullshit

If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,

It is flying apart

there would be no stars no planets!

Bullshit

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!

Bullshit

If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!

Bullshit

Used your AI of Choice GROK
It agrees with my perception on Gravity

Bullshit it does

<https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_4262234c-51ce-48a6-8a6a-809eb05d9a64> >>>>> https://tinyurl.com/a45ms326

Summery

It says nothing like this 'summary'

The fine-tuning is real and quantified in the literaturerCoit's not
"exactly 1%" in every formulation, but the user's point holds: small >>>>> deviations break the conditions for stars, planets, and chemistry as >>>>> we know them.

Pity that the universe is indeed expanding

So much for your stupid claim that gravity has
been perfectly designed so that doesn't happen

And grok says absolutely NOTHING about your even more stupid
claim that its all perfectly designed for life on just this planet

It's one of the deepest puzzles in physics.

Its no puzzel at all, that's just the way it happened

No need for any creator and fools who believe in some brilliant
creator need to explain where that creator came from

What aspect intrigues you mostrCospecific constants,multiverse ideas, >>>>> or something else?

Nothing, nada, zero, ziltch

GROK sums you up well
The "USENET clown" dismissal is classic pattern-matching:
label it pseudoscience or "God of the gaps" and move on.

Grok never ever said anything even remotely like that
either you pathetic excuse for a pathological liar

But the fine-tuning literature is seriousrCopeer-reviewed papers by
working cosmologists and particle physicists (Adams, Rees, Weinberg,>>> etc.) mapping the viable parameter space.

None of which mindlessly spew any of that shit you spewed
and all of which realise that the universe is indeed EXPANDING

It's not settled, and some ranges are broader than pop-sci claims
(viable universes exist with variations), but the clustering of
life-permitting conditions is striking and unexplained by current
fundamental theory >>

More bullshit

You can lok up the link
GROK asked why I'm interested I replied
"Just a USENET clown stamping it as being "Bullshit".
I know it's not"
and replied <https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_4262234c-51ce-48a6-8a6a-809eb05d9a64>
https://tinyurl.com/a45ms326
The "USENET clown" dismissal is classic pattern-matching:
label it pseudoscience or "God of the gaps" and move on.
But the fine-tuning literature is seriousrCopeer-reviewed papers by
working cosmologists and particle physicists (Adams, Rees, Weinberg,
etc.) mapping the viable parameter space.

It's not settled, and some ranges are broader than pop-sci claims
(viable universes exist with variations), but the clustering of life-permitting conditions is striking and unexplained by current
fundamental theory > --
Petzl
Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no
murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to
shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different

"Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating
different!.

Pity about
https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_c84eaa45-5a21-44a5-994b-635890a6bebe
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Daniel70

|urd||g

Petz

snip endless drivel

Good idea!
Does it also mean that you are going to snip all the drivel you intended >>> to post to the newsgroup in the future?
Would be be really-really nice of you Petz dear!!
:-P

And, talking of Snipping, why doesn't Petzl SNIP some/ALL of his 30'ish
line long Sig File?? I believe four/five lines is an acceptable length.

Just ignore all the nonsense Petz posts in his sigs, Daniel!
Basically, by now everyone does! I don't know why he has not noticed yet
how meaningless/utterly ignored that stupid habit of his become over time.

Apparently Petz has decided yonks ago to put a significant portion of
his alt-right propaganda dumps/GoonBag fumes induced delusions into his
sig. For some strange reason he has imagined this was a *great* idea
because this has saved him from the trouble of having to retype his ad
nauseam regurgitated non sequitur drivels in the main body of his posts
while providing him with additional impact on the unfortunate readers of
his idiot posts.

Eventually, I took the very necessary measure (i.e. scrip file magic) to
stop his bloated nonsense sigs from displaying in my Usenet client.
Pffffft! What a relief! It has saved my sanity from additional Petz damage!

believe in what you want, |urd||g does.

Apparently in this newsgroup most posters prefer to believe in the *superiority* of their own deluded views of the world instead of
properly observing facts and reality, ain't that so, Petz dear (I am
looking you)!

BTW, I am still waiting for you to name all those major US cities which allegedly (according to you and your off and on newsgroup boifriend,
Alzheimer Rod) were significantly damaged/destroyed by the Japs during
World War 2 similar to the very same degree severely impacted European
cities. Wouldn't be nice of you to post confirming links to immediate
after war images of Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, News York,
Atlanta, Washington DC, Huston, etc demonstrating the totality of
immense war damage!
:-P :-P :-P

And while at it, please also try to enlighten the newsgroup how, when
and where your imaginary Australian troupes fought the Nazis on mainland Europe well before any of the rest of the other Allies have shown up.... Waiting ... waiting ... waiting ... crickets!

Do you even realise Petz dear, that Africa ain't Europe?

:-P :-P :-P
--
|urd||g
Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

You can lok up the link
GROK asked why I'm interested I replied
"Just a USENET clown stamping it as being "Bullshit".
I know it's not"
and replied
<https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_4262234c-51ce-48a6-8a6a-809eb05d9a64> >>> https://tinyurl.com/a45ms326
The "USENET clown" dismissal is classic pattern-matching:

That is talking about YOU, fuckwit

label it pseudoscience or "God of the gaps" and move on.
But the fine-tuning literature is seriousrCopeer-reviewed papers by
working cosmologists and particle physicists (Adams, Rees, Weinberg,>>> etc.) mapping the viable parameter space.

Pity about
https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_93ab5182-14f2-42f1-ae0d-2e3c25711279
which is nothing even remotely like your original shit

It's not settled, and some ranges are broader than pop-sci claims
(viable universes exist with variations), but the clustering of
life-permitting conditions is striking and unexplained by current
fundamental theory >> which is nothing even remotely like your original shit

Lying twisting and spinning. scared of when you meet you maker Rod.

There is no maker, fuckwit

The original question to GROK and Grok answered to was
...
If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!
If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,
there would be no stars no planets!
Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!
If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!
...
Which GROK stated was absolute fact

Bullshit it did anything of the sort and I
proved that by posting that shit to grok

and stated Rod Speed is a "USENET clown"

It never did anything of the sort, you stupid pathological liar

dismissal is classic pattern-matching:
label it pseudoscience

No pseudoscience involved in rubbing your
stupid nose in the FACT that the universe is
in fact EXPANDING

or "God of the gaps"

Not that either

and move on.

Which you didn't do either
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On 21/07/2026 6:04 am, Petzl wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 17:29:58 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 20/07/2026 9:48 am, Petzl wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 01:19:51 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

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|urd||g

Rod Speed

<Snip>

We have a machinery field day every year in
Colyambally and almost all of the antique
machinery and cars and trucks are american,
something you don't see with cars anymore

That is Australia and NOT Europe! Next!

rubbish

Care to locate Colyambally on the map of Europe for me?
If you can't, maybe it is high time for you to fuck off back to your
GoonBag binge, Petz dear!

The connection of Australia in Europe was they were fighting Nazi's
the day before Britain was idiot.

Sorry!! WHAT?? Who were the Aussies fighting along side of if Britain
had yet to join the War, Petzl?? The French?? The Danes?? The Russians??

They were fighting with just themselves, Churchill wanted to keep
Britsh casualties down.

Because of the international date line, Canberra, Australia, in WWII
was always the day befoe yhe time in UK.
But you knew that Daniel70 you are not stupid.

Have a look a a WORLD Map, Petzl. One thing I DID and DO know, Petzl, is
that the International Date Line runs down the middle (roughly) of The
Pacific Ocean, Petzl. So *YES* I am NOT stupid, Petzl, certainly NOT as
STUPID as YOU, Petzl, seem to be.

I am posting this at approx. 7:40p.m. EST on Tuesday in Australia.
Standard Time in London, at this time, is approx 9:40a.m. .... but, as I
think they use Daylight Savings Time, it might be 8:40a.m. (or 10:40a.m.
if I've shifted it the wrong way!!)
--
Daniel70
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On 21/07/2026 6:08 am, Petzl wrote:

<Snip.

--
Petzl
What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply coincidence?

The other way around, Petzl.

"What perfect set of circumstances placed *our little blue planet* at
just the correct distance from *our Sun a Celestial ball of fire* for
life to evolve."

Our planet is with-in Sol's (our Sun) Habital Zone which, apparently, stretches from roughly Venus to, roughly, Mars. Lucky Us.

And planets being set in other Stars 'Habital Zone' are being found all
over our Milky Way Galaxy .... and other Galaxy's as well.

So, who known, maybe there IS life all over the place.
--
Daniel70
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On 21/07/2026 7:35 am, Petzl wrote:

<Snip>

GROK sums you up well

Hmm!! "Grok is an AI assistant built by *SpaceXAI* . Chat, create
images, write code, and get real-time answers from the web and X."

SpaceX AI .... Do you really want to be associated with SpaceX, Petzl??
I mean THEY blow up rockets ... so can you really TRUST their AI?? Does
their AI produce the plans for their rockets??
--
Daniel70
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Daniel70

Petz

Daniel70

Petz

|urd||g
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

Petz >>>>>> |urd||g

Rod Speed

<Snip>

We have a machinery field day every year in
Colyambally and almost all of the antique
machinery and cars and trucks are american,
something you don't see with cars anymore

That is Australia and NOT Europe! Next!

rubbish

Care to locate Colyambally on the map of Europe for me?
If you can't, maybe it is high time for you to fuck off back to your >>>>> GoonBag binge, Petz dear!

The connection of Australia in Europe was they were fighting Nazi's
the day before Britain was idiot.

Sorry!! WHAT?? Who were the Aussies fighting along side of if Britain
had yet to join the War, Petzl?? The French?? The Danes?? The Russians?? >>>

They were fighting with just themselves, Churchill wanted to keep
Britsh casualties down.

Because of the international date line, Canberra, Australia, in WWII
was always the day befoe yhe time in UK.
But you knew that Daniel70 you are not stupid.

Have a look a a WORLD Map, Petzl. One thing I DID and DO know, Petzl, is that the International Date Line runs down the middle (roughly) of The Pacific Ocean, Petzl. So *YES* I am NOT stupid, Petzl, certainly NOT as STUPID as YOU, Petzl, seem to be.

It seems both Petz and Rod Speed have some serious issues with geography!

However, Petz is full of even more shit than Rod is!

Sadly it is almost impossible to get a rational responses out of either
one of these two. Their replies tend to be made of a random collection
gobbled together nonsense carefully avoiding any head on arguments
raised against their wild assertions, which they theoretically are
supposed to be addressing. I suppose this is their method of getting out
of the debating pothole-traps they have created themselves unwittingly!

I am posting this at approx. 7:40p.m. EST on Tuesday in Australia.
Standard Time in London, at this time, is approx 9:40a.m. .... but, as I think they use Daylight Savings Time, it might be 8:40a.m. (or 10:40a.m.
if I've shifted it the wrong way!!)

The current time difference with daylight saving in the UK and standard
time in OZ are 9 hours.

I have a nice little application called "Clock" (can be downloaded from
your favourite 'apt' repository) that can display current time at
several user selected locations. Mine is set to show the current time in Sydney, Vienna and New York! :-)
--
|urd||g
Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service
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Daniel70

Petz

<Snip>

GROK sums you up well

Hmm!! "Grok is an AI assistant built by *SpaceXAI* . Chat, create
images, write code, and get real-time answers from the web and X."

This clearly shows how incapable and lazy Petz is in dealing with
arguments raised against his wild assertions.

He is now entirely relying on AI hallucinations to prop up the nonsense
he spews. And of course, he cherry pick the worst kind of AI platform to
get what he needs! ;-)

SpaceX AI .... Do you really want to be associated with SpaceX, Petzl??
I mean THEY blow up rockets ... so can you really TRUST their AI?? Does their AI produce the plans for their rockets??

It must have.
Apparently The Orange Emperor's war on Iran was also designed by a MAGA friendly AI. Wasn't that illegal war supposed to be won on the first two
days according to Trump??? How many times has he declared his ultimate
win again and again and again over Iran ever since those months this war
is still going on and on and on?
Pathetic.
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Your diligent newsgroup devil at your service
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 00:25:54 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

It seems both Petz and Rod Speed have some serious issues with geography!

Nothing to do with geography
Was to do with time stamps
without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK
NZ is +24Hrs
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 00:40:33 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

Hmm!! "Grok is an AI assistant built by *SpaceXAI* . Chat, create
images, write code, and get real-time answers from the web and X."

This clearly shows how incapable and lazy Petz is in dealing with
arguments raised against his wild assertions.

He is now entirely relying on AI hallucinations to prop up the nonsense
he spews. And of course, he cherry pick the worst kind of AI platform to
get what he needs! ;-)

Don't normally use GROK Rod Speed does
I used it so Rod could see what it said about string theory, most
believe it's about religion it isn't.

I didn't even write it, but knew loons would believe it preaching
existence of GOD!
--
Petzl
What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a
Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance
from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply coincidence?
The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a
complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents
and biological mutations?
There is no Grand meaning? There is no purpose?

If gravity was slightly more powerful
the universe would collapse into a bowl!
If gravity was less powerful the universe would fly apart,
there would be no stars no planets!

Gravity is precisely as strong as it needs to be!
If the ratio of the electromagnetic force to the
strong force wasn't 1% life wouldn't exist!
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|urd||g

It seems both Petz and Rod Speed have some serious issues with geography!

Nothing to do with geography

Of course it does. Do you even know what is the diffence between geology
and geography??? ...................Of course you don't!
(Silly me, I should not ask questions when I already know the correct answers.)

Time zones lie within the domain of geography, you drunkard retard!
Are you posting under the influence of GoonCon 4 again???

Was to do with time stamps

LOL!

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Amazing? Did you need your alt-right AI to discover that amazing fact?

NZ is +24Hrs

BULLSHIT!

Failed again, Petz dear! ROTFLOL! Give up digging yourself into an other
deep hole in direction of Siberia!
Just admit it, you have no fucking clue where the International date
line is located.

Look here:

*Time.now*
<https://time.now/countries/new-zealand/>

"Time Difference Between Wellington and Major Cities
(Live local time and the difference from Wellington right now.)

New York Tue 22:54 -16h

Los Angeles Tue 19:54 -19h

Chicago Tue 21:54 -17h

Toronto Tue 22:54 -16h

Sao Paulo Tue 23:54 -15h

London Wed 03:54 -11h

Paris Wed 04:54 -10h

Berlin Wed 04:54 -10h

Moscow Wed 05:54 -9h

Dubai Wed 06:54 -8h

Mumbai Wed 08:24 -6h 30m

Singapore Wed 10:54 -4h

Hong Kong Wed 10:54 -4h

Tokyo Wed 11:54 -3h

Sydney Wed 12:54 -2h T

~~~~~ ~~~~~


You have fucked totally fucked up again, Petz dear!
Just give it up! :-P
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Daniel70

Hmm!! "Grok is an AI assistant built by *SpaceXAI* . Chat, create
images, write code, and get real-time answers from the web and X."

This clearly shows how incapable and lazy Petz is in dealing with
arguments raised against his wild assertions.

He is now entirely relying on AI hallucinations to prop up the nonsense
he spews. And of course, he cherry pick the worst kind of AI platform to
get what he needs! ;-)

Don't normally use GROK Rod Speed does

Stop lying!
Or don't you ever read your own posts those GoonBag fairies who are
happily residing in your cavernous skull make you type into your keyboard???

I used it so Rod could see what it said about string theory, most
believe it's about religion it isn't.

Petz and his extremely lame excuses for posting absolute crap to the newsgroup!

I didn't even write it, but knew loons would believe it preaching
existence of GOD!

Sigh! The more you try the more pathetic you sound!

I see it is pointless to communicate with you at this point as you must completely blotto again. Are you having attempt at reaching the stellar heights of GoonCon 5 inebriation.
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On 22/07/2026 12:16 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 00:25:54 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

It seems both Petz and Rod Speed have some serious issues with geography!

Nothing to do with geography

Yes, Petzl, it *IS ALL* to do with Geography. If East Coast Australia
was at the same Longitude as London (0 degrees), our Sunrises and
Sunsets would be at the same standard time as London.

Was to do with time stamps
without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

When London is on DST and WE aren't, there is eleven hours difference.
When London is not on DST and WE are, there is nine hours difference,
and when neither of us is on DST (which I don't think EVER happens now-a-days), there is ten hours difference.

NZ is +24Hrs

NZ is just over the Pond, Petzl. How the HELL does THAT get them 24Hrs
ahead of ANYWHERE, Petzl??
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London
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Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
major depression, and two world wars.
Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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On 22/07/2026 9:23 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter which of
US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.
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Petz

Daniel70

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

What f...ing *day stamp*????

Sadly this wilfully learn resistant/ignorant fool must have flunked
geography in school (assuming that he ever attended high-school at all).
He must believe that the existence of the international date line is
just a Marxist/socialist/communist conspiracy against his reality
denialist mob.

If one ever needed an absolute proof Petz's miseducated status and/or
failing mind, well this was it!

~~~
*What Is the International Date Line?* <https://www.timeanddate.com/time/dateline.html>

"The International Date Line (IDL) is an imaginary line on EarthrCOs
surface defining the boundary between one day and the next."
~~~

London, Australia and New Zealand are on the same side of the date line,
which has importance when one travels easterly direction around the
globe across that line.

For time calculations for obtaining Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) one simply
has to *detract* from the local time (New Zealand or OZ) the hours of
time differences. Sometimes all these locations are on the same date and sometimes not given what the current time is during the day.

Hey, date difference can even occur within Australia at certain times of
the days because it has multiple time zones. I simply can't phantom how
can someone be so stupid as to not comprehend how this works.

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter which of
US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Time to give up, Daniel! I can't imagine that you can ever get Petz comprehending even this very simple concept.

Although I often blame Pet'z stupidity in his alcohol binge but there
must be much more to this then just the booze!

My father was sadly very much addicted to alcohol during his older years
(and died because of that addiction), but his mind has never degraded to
the absolute lows exhibited by Petz.
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 21:41:42 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 22/07/2026 9:23 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter which of
US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal nitpicker you are!
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An evil enemy will from within,
will burn his own nation to then rule over the ashes.
Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu
(author of The Art of War), 5th century BC.
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 02:04:07 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

Daniel70

Petz

Daniel70

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

What f...ing *day stamp*????

Sadly this wilfully learn resistant/ignorant fool must have flunked >geography in school (assuming that he ever attended high-school at all).
He must believe that the existence of the international date line is
just a Marxist/socialist/communist conspiracy against his reality
denialist mob.

Here is one
On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord. Eighteen eighty three
at a quarter to three in the afternoono (i.e., about 2:45 p.m.) at
his home in London.

Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died

Canberra, ACT (no daylight saving)
14:45 + 10 hours = 24:45 ? 00:45 (12:45 a.m.) on Friday, July 24,
2026.
The date advances by one day when using standard time only.
--
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"The Newsgroup Devil"
+rd%g the Armchair communist
https://youtu.be/I-aQkAzTJSs?si=nb1vHyJ7a6ImK0zt

As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
for mass immigration promoted by politicians
and big business.
He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
how great diversity is.
He believes he is such a radical

Communists View the Church as a Huge, Huge Firewall
Against What They Want to Do
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Petz

Daniel70

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter which of
US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal nitpicker you are!

WRONG!

Daniel is simply pointing out your utter lack of comprehension about the nature of the international dateline and time-zones related time
difference calculations. Something average school children would have no problems with these days.

That is a major issue with you Petz dear, because you never ever admit
to being wrong, but instead always double down on the bullshit you have asserted initially.
Or you just snip everything in response to due criticism and rant about something entirely different instead of owning up to your own fuck ups.

BTW I am still waiting for you to list and also provide evidential documentation references to all those allegedly heavily damaged *major*
US cities during World War 2. NOTE: Pearl Harbour has never been a
*major* US city! :-P
Pointing out significant flaws in your wild assertions (the same also
goes for Rod Speed, too) is NOT 'anal nitpicking' but instead a well
justified attempt at restoring basic facts and reality in a heated
discussion gone absolutely insane!

:-P
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Petzl wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 02:04:07 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

Daniel70

Petz

Daniel70

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours >>>>> ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

What f...ing *day stamp*????

Sadly this wilfully learn resistant/ignorant fool must have flunked
geography in school (assuming that he ever attended high-school at all).
He must believe that the existence of the international date line is
just a Marxist/socialist/communist conspiracy against his reality
denialist mob.

Here is one... blah...blah...blah...Petz's hate dump!

FLUSH!

Canberra, ACT (no daylight saving)
14:45 + 10 hours = 24:45 ? 00:45 (12:45 a.m.) on Friday, July 24,
2026.

WTF??? So do you reckon that it is somehow already Friday in London
when it is still Thursday afternoon in Canberra???

You are out of your freaking mind! :-P

The date advances by one day when using standard time only.

ROTFLOL!
Date change can also works during daylight saving, Petz dear!

Anyhow!
But when in Canberra it is Thursday midday (Australian Eastern Standard
Time) it is 3 am at *the same date* in London (daylight saving time).

But at midday in London on a Friday (standard time) it is still the very
same day but at 11 pm in Sydney (daylight saving time).

If only you would try to sleep off the effects of your latest GoonBag
binge before you post even more nonsense to the newsgroup!

Kindly just admit that you have made a mistake in your previous posts
Petz dear and move on, instead of trying all sorts of verbal acrobatics
to somehow wiggle yourself out of the tight spot of your own creation.
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 03:40:51 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

BTW I am still waiting for you to list and also provide evidential >documentation references to all those allegedly heavily damaged *major*
US cities during World War 2. NOTE: Pearl Harbour has never been a
*major* US city! :-P
Pointing out significant flaws in your wild assertions (the same also
goes for Rod Speed, too) is NOT 'anal nitpicking' but instead a well >justified attempt at restoring basic facts and reality in a heated >discussion gone absolutely insane!

You lying wanabe-como toad
Alewady did and you know, mind youyou are now lyingspinning/twisting
using the word "major" US city/
These are all US major targets

Care to name all those (your imaginary long lists) of US cities plus
other basic infrastructure that has been significantly damaged by the
Japs in World War 2, anything even remotely similar to the damage done
to Europe, Petz dear!

If you can't come up if anything even remotely factual than you better
fuck off back to your GoonBag binge!

You are out with your mindless interpretation of commie Fairies as
always.

Japan did not have the resources to launch an extensive mainland
campaign, meaning no major US cities were significantly damaged.
However, the Japanese military launched several direct attacks on US territories and outlying areas:Honolulu, Hawaii,

The surprise attack on American port at Pearl Harbor severely damaged
the US Pacific Fleet, destroying multiple battleships, airfields, and
military infrastructure (Dec 7, 1941) owned, operated by US,

Then there are
Dutch Harbor, Alaska, Japanese carrier aircraft heavily bombed this
strategic naval and military base, causing significant structural
damage (June 3u4, 1942). Attu and Kiska,

Alaska Japanese forces invaded and occupied these two Aleutian
Islands, causing severe infrastructure damage and forcing a prolonged
US and Canadian military campaign to retake them (June 1942uAugust
1943).

Estevan Point, Canada: The Imperial Japanese Navy submarine I-26
shelled the Estevan Point Lighthouse on Vancouver Island, marking the
first time enemy fire hit North American shores.

Fort Stevens, Oregon Submarine I-25 shelled this US Army fort, though
the artillery fell short and caused no major structural damage.
Oregon Coast. The same submarine, I-25, launched incendiary bombs into
the forests of the Klamath Mountains near Mount Emily to start forest
fires.

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**On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord, one thousand, eight
hundred and eighty-three.
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died**

Cultural Marxism aims
1. The creation of racism offenses.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
5. Huge immigration and multiculturalism to destroy a countries
identity.
6. The promotion of drug taking (while pretending it is bad)
7. Emptying of churches
(Only the Christian churches as the underlying basis of our society is
Judaeo Christian) Other religions are to be promoted and protected.
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime (Soft sentencing, revolving doors, more concern for the welfare of criminals
than victims)
9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family by:
(a) Attack the authority of the father.
(b) deny the specific roles of father and mother.
(c) Wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of
their children.
(d) Abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
(e) Abolish all forms of male dominance
(f) Declare women to be an 'oppressed class' and men as 'oppressors'
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Petzl wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 03:40:51 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

BTW I am still waiting for you to list and also provide evidential
documentation references to all those allegedly heavily damaged *major*
US cities during World War 2. NOTE: Pearl Harbour has never been a
*major* US city! :-P
Pointing out significant flaws in your wild assertions (the same also
goes for Rod Speed, too) is NOT 'anal nitpicking' but instead a well
justified attempt at restoring basic facts and reality in a heated
discussion gone absolutely insane!

You lying wanabe-como toad
Alewady did and you know, mind youyou are now lyingspinning/twisting
using the word "major" US city/
These are all US major targets

Apparently your concept of *major* must originate from your GoonBag
fairies filled alternate universe, Petz dear!

Care to name all those (your imaginary long lists) of US cities plus
other basic infrastructure that has been significantly damaged by the
Japs in World War 2, anything even remotely similar to the damage done
to Europe, Petz dear!

If you can't come up if anything even remotely factual than you better
fuck off back to your GoonBag binge!

You are out with your mindless interpretation of commie Fairies as
always.

The word *major* has only a single common interpretation for all sober
and rational thinking human beings, absolutely independent of their
political and ideological orientation! :-P

Japan did not have the resources to launch an extensive mainland
campaign, meaning no major US cities were significantly damaged.

Bingo! Finally an admission from you???

However, the Japanese military launched several direct attacks on US territories and outlying areas:Honolulu, Hawaii,

Bingo! Alas, attacks on US territories at its *western border*!
Finally we can agree at least on this one fact!

/snip your listing of border skirmishes!/

Estevan Point, Canada ....

I do realise how much you subscribe to the demented nonsense your Orange
felon hero Trump spews endlessly, but so far Canada has not become the
51st US state. So kindly try to concentrate on attacks against the US
because this discussion was the US vs Europe comparison oriented.

To sum it up, I was correct and both you and Rod Speed have whipped up
an artificial shit-storm about nothing buy your US brown nosing biases.

The US was able to cope with the economic and industrial demands the
world war placed on it with ease because its industrial and agricultural productivity has remained virtually unaffected by the ravages of war on
cities and civilian infrastructure quite unlike how Europe was!
Winning against Hitler and the Japs was a joint effort by a multitude of nations forming the alliance against the Axis powers. Everyone has
contributed one way or another according to their best abilities to do so.

This had fucking nothing to do with some imaginary greatness attributed
to the US by MAGAt affiliates like you who have been regularly brown
nosing the septics no matter what!

:-P
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On 23/07/2026 10:04 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:

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inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

Daniel70

Petz

Daniel70

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10
hours ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean
Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

What f...ing *day stamp*????

Sadly this wilfully learn resistant/ignorant fool must have flunked geography in school (assuming that he ever attended high-school at
all). He must believe that the existence of the international date
line is just a Marxist/socialist/communist conspiracy against his
reality denialist mob.

If one ever needed an absolute proof Petz's miseducated status and/or
failing mind, well this was it!

~~~ *What Is the International Date Line?* <https://www.timeanddate.com/time/dateline.html>

"The International Date Line (IDL) is an imaginary line on EarthrCOs
surface defining the boundary between one day and the next." ~~~

London, Australia and New Zealand are on the same side of the date
line, which has importance when one travels easterly direction
around the globe across that line.

For time calculations for obtaining Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) one
simply has to *detract* from the local time (New Zealand or OZ) the
hours of time differences. Sometimes all these locations are on the
same date and sometimes not given what the current time is during the
day.

Hey, date difference can even occur within Australia at certain times
of the days because it has multiple time zones. I simply can't
phantom how can someone be so stupid as to not comprehend how this
works.

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter
which of US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Time to give up, Daniel!

Back in a former life, I was a T&FE Teacher at the Army Apprentice
School, Bonegilla (Now disappeared in a Dept of Defence re-alignment)
so, I guess, deep down, I'm still a Teacher/Instructor, .... trying,
trying, trying!!

I can't imagine that you can ever get Petz comprehending even this
very simple concept.

One has to TRY!!

Although I often blame Pet'z stupidity in his alcohol binge but there
must be much more to this then just the booze!

My father was sadly very much addicted to alcohol during his older
years (and died because of that addiction), but his mind has never
degraded to the absolute lows exhibited by Petz.

My father was born something like three months premature in 1919.
Now-a-day, three months premature is a bit of a struggle but back then
... WOW!! He was lucky to make it to his first Birthday, let alone his Eighty-First!!

He was deaf as could be .... but what you lose in one sense, you often
gain in others. His magic ability was to be able to match any colour of
paint by mixing and matching other colours of paint. Being a Carpenter/Plumber/Painter, that ability came in very handy. Brilliant.

It seems Petzl has lost the ability to communicate intelligently. I
wonder what he gained along the way. ;-P
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On 23/07/2026 10:04 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:

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Daniel70

Petz

Daniel70

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

What f...ing *day stamp*????

Sadly this wilfully learn resistant/ignorant fool must have flunked geography in school (assuming that he ever attended high-school at all).
He must believe that the existence of the international date line is
just a Marxist/socialist/communist conspiracy against his reality
denialist mob.

If one ever needed an absolute proof Petz's miseducated status and/or failing mind, well this was it!

~~~
*What Is the International Date Line?* <https://www.timeanddate.com/time/dateline.html>

"The International Date Line (IDL) is an imaginary line on EarthrCOs
surface defining the boundary between one day and the next."
~~~

London, Australia and New Zealand are on the same side of the date line, which has importance-a when one travels easterly direction around the
globe across that line.

<Snip>

I seem to recall, back in the 60's, in the height of the
Mercury/Gemini/Apollo rocket projects, there was a Comedy T.V. show
based on a mis-guided rocket launch where the Capsule orbited Earth but
in the wrong direction so kept crossing the International Date Line but
in the wrong direction, i.e. going Westerly .... so went back in time
and ended up back with the Cavemen.
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On 23/07/2026 11:12 am, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 21:41:42 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 22/07/2026 9:23 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter which of
US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal nitpicker you are!

Well, YOU, Petzl, seem to spend a lot of your time HERE telling US what
clowns we are .... can't I spend a little time returning the favour??
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On 23/07/2026 12:25 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 03:40:51 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil

Bloody HELL, Petzl, are YOU on Holidays or something?? My computer
thinks Ordog made His post at 11:40 a.m., my time (GMT+10:00), but YOUR Computer seems to think Ordog made his post at 3:40 a.m. (GMT+2:00) ....
Or are you on Holidays, Petzl, somewhere in central Europe, maybe??

<Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

BTW I am still waiting for you to list and also provide evidential
documentation references to all those allegedly heavily damaged
*major* US cities during World War 2. NOTE: Pearl Harbour has never
been a *major* US city! :-P

Don't hold your breath, Ordog. Petzl seems to be the sort of person who
expects EVERYONE ELSE will accept his word as Gospel.

Pointing out significant flaws in your wild assertions (the same
also goes for Rod Speed, too) is NOT 'anal nitpicking' but instead
a well justified attempt at restoring basic facts and reality in a
heated discussion gone absolutely insane!

You lying wanabe-como toad

Why is that, Petzl?? Should No-one ever doubt your word, Petzl??

Alewady

"Alewady"?? Gobble-de-gook!!

did and you know, mind youyou

"youyou"??

are now lyingspinning/twisting

"lyingspinning"??

using the word "major" US city/ These are all US major targets

Sorry! WHAT??

Care to name all those (your imaginary long lists) of US cities
plus other basic infrastructure that has been significantly damaged
by the Japs in World War 2, anything even remotely similar to the
damage done to Europe, Petz dear!

If you can't come up if anything even remotely factual than you
better fuck off back to your GoonBag binge!

You are out with your mindless interpretation of commie Fairies as
always.

And YOU, Petzl, are unable to answer a Question asked of YOU, Petzl.

Japan did not have the resources to launch an extensive mainland
campaign, meaning no major US cities were significantly damaged.

.... but had the resources to damage those cities of Mainland China
through to S.E. Asia.

However, the Japanese military launched several direct attacks on US territories and outlying areas:Honolulu, Hawaii,

The surprise attack on American port at Pearl Harbor severely
damaged the US Pacific Fleet, destroying multiple battleships,
airfields, and military infrastructure (Dec 7, 1941) owned, operated
by US,

Then there are Dutch Harbor, Alaska, Japanese carrier aircraft
heavily bombed this strategic naval and military base, causing
significant structural damage (June 3rCo4, 1942).

WHAT?? Almost six months after Pearl Harbour, Petzl.
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 21:36:44 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 23/07/2026 12:25 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2026 03:40:51 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil

Bloody HELL, Petzl, are YOU on Holidays or something?? My computer
thinks Ordog made His post at 11:40 a.m., my time (GMT+10:00), but YOUR >Computer seems to think Ordog made his post at 3:40 a.m. (GMT+2:00) ....
Or are you on Holidays, Petzl, somewhere in central Europe, maybe??

My newsreader (Forte Agent) automatically included the raw header
timestamp from Ordog's original post (Thu, 23 Jul 2026 03:40:51 +0200)
instead of converting it to Australian local time.
The reader saw "03:40" in my quote, forgot to look at the +0200
timezone offset modifier at the end, and mistakenly thought my
computer clock was set incorrectly or that I had traveled to Europe.

Only a Anal nitpicker is bothered by it
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an argument with a stupid person

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The same thing happens when you're stupid
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Daniel70:

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Daniel70

Petz

Daniel70

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours >>>>> ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

What f...ing *day stamp*????

Sadly this wilfully learn resistant/ignorant fool must have flunked
geography in school (assuming that he ever attended high-school at all).
He must believe that the existence of the international date line is
just a Marxist/socialist/communist conspiracy against his reality
denialist mob.

If one ever needed an absolute proof Petz's miseducated status and/or
failing mind, well this was it!

~~~
*What Is the International Date Line?*
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/dateline.html>

"The International Date Line (IDL) is an imaginary line on EarthrCOs
surface defining the boundary between one day and the next."
~~~

London, Australia and New Zealand are on the same side of the date
line, which has importance-a when one travels easterly direction around
the globe across that line.

<Snip>

I seem to recall, back in the 60's, in the height of the Mercury/Gemini/Apollo rocket projects, there was a Comedy T.V. show
based on a mis-guided rocket launch where the Capsule orbited Earth but
in the wrong direction so kept crossing the International Date Line but
in the wrong direction, i.e. going Westerly .... so went back in time
and ended up back with the Cavemen.

LOL!
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Daniel70

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Daniel70

Petz

Daniel70

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10
hours ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean
Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

What f...ing *day stamp*????

Sadly this wilfully learn resistant/ignorant fool must have flunked
geography in school (assuming that he ever attended high-school at
all). He must believe that the existence of the international date
line is just a Marxist/socialist/communist conspiracy against his
reality denialist mob.

If one ever needed an absolute proof Petz's miseducated status and/or
-afailing mind, well this was it!

~~~ *What Is the International Date Line?*
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/dateline.html>

"The International Date Line (IDL) is an imaginary line on EarthrCOs
surface defining the boundary between one day and the next." ~~~

London, Australia and New Zealand are on the same side of the date
line, which has importance-a when one travels easterly direction
around the globe across that line.

For time calculations for obtaining Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) one
simply has to *detract* from the local time (New Zealand or OZ) the
hours of time differences. Sometimes all these locations are on the
same date and sometimes not given what the current time is during the
day.

Hey, date difference can even occur within Australia at certain times
of the days because it has multiple time zones. I simply can't
phantom how can someone be so stupid as to not comprehend how this
works.

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter
which of US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Time to give up, Daniel!

Back in a former life, I was a T&FE Teacher at the Army Apprentice
School, Bonegilla (Now disappeared in a Dept of Defence re-alignment)
so, I guess, deep down, I'm still a Teacher/Instructor, .... trying,
trying, trying!!

I can't imagine that you can ever get Petz comprehending even this
very simple concept.

One has to TRY!!

Although I often blame Pet'z stupidity in his alcohol binge but there
must be much more to this then just the booze!

My father was sadly very much addicted to alcohol during his older
years (and died because of that addiction), but his mind has never
degraded to the absolute lows exhibited by Petz.

My father was born something like three months premature in 1919.
Now-a-day, three months premature is a bit of a struggle but back then
... WOW!! He was lucky to make it to his first Birthday, let alone his Eighty-First!!

He was deaf as could be .... but what you lose in one sense, you often
gain in others. His magic ability was to be able to match any colour of paint by mixing and matching other colours of paint. Being a Carpenter/Plumber/Painter, that ability came in very handy. Brilliant.

It seems Petzl has lost the ability to communicate intelligently. I
wonder what he gained along the way. ;-P

My guess would be that he has gained an amazing ability to see his own delusions and misconceptions as a full replacement for reality.
Beyond that, I suppose his taste buds have also improved to the point
where he can pick out the cheapest but still very potent Goon Bag from a
large assortment on offer even when blind folded.

:-P
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Daniel70

Bloody HELL, Petzl, are YOU on Holidays or something?? My computer
thinks Ordog made His post at 11:40 a.m., my time (GMT+10:00), but YOUR
Computer seems to think Ordog made his post at 3:40 a.m. (GMT+2:00) ....
Or are you on Holidays, Petzl, somewher e in central Europe, maybe??

My newsreader (Forte Agent) automatically included the raw header
timestamp from Ordog's original post (Thu, 23 Jul 2026 03:40:51 +0200) instead of converting it to Australian local time.
The reader saw "03:40" in my quote, forgot to look at the +0200
timezone offset modifier at the end, and mistakenly thought my
computer clock was set incorrectly or that I had traveled to Europe.

Excuses, excuses, even more pathetic excuses! :-P

Soon you will blame all of the nonsensical gobbledygook you regularly
posts on your apparently nasty, wishes, woke, atheist, Marxist,
socialist, communist Usenet client, eh Petz dear ???
Anything, but taking responsibility for your own fuck ups???

:-P
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On 23/07/2026 11:12 am, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 21:41:42 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 22/07/2026 9:23 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter which of
US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal nitpicker you are!

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to try
to teach you something, Petzl??

I mean you, Petzl, are the great 'Know it All", aren't you??
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On 24/07/2026 8:24 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:

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Daniel70

Bloody HELL, Petzl, are YOU on Holidays or something?? My computer
thinks Ordog made His post at 11:40 a.m., my time (GMT+10:00), but YOUR
Computer seems to think Ordog made his post at 3:40 a.m. (GMT+2:00) .... >>> Or are you on Holidays, Petzl, somewher e in central Europe, maybe??

My newsreader (Forte Agent) automatically included the raw header
timestamp from Ordog's original post (Thu, 23 Jul 2026 03:40:51 +0200)
instead of converting it to Australian local time.
The reader saw "03:40" in my quote, forgot to look at the +0200
timezone offset modifier at the end, and mistakenly thought my
computer clock was set incorrectly or that I had traveled to Europe.

Excuses, excuses, even more pathetic excuses!-a :-P

No, Ordog, maybe Petzl's computer thought IT knew what was going on
better then Petzl did.

That wouldn't take much intellect!!

Soon you will blame all of the nonsensical gobbledygook you regularly
posts on your apparently nasty, wishes, woke, atheist, Marxist,
socialist, communist Usenet client, eh Petz dear ???
Anything, but taking responsibility for your own fuck ups???

:-P

"It wasn't ME!!" "I didn't do IT!!" "It wasn't ME!!"
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:00:32 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 23/07/2026 11:12 am, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 21:41:42 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 22/07/2026 9:23 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours >>>>> ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter which of
US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal nitpicker you are!

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to try
to teach you something, Petzl??

That's a label Rod Speed classified you as, I agree, suits you. <https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ>
They did in fact spend considerable money on mine and wasted
it on my spelling and foreign languages, you anal nit picker.

I mean you, Petzl, are the great 'Know it All", aren't you??

Try to state the truth,
you don't, you try to ridicule and malign!
Those who mock others are dealing with their own inner unhappiness.
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money.

On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord. Eighteen eighty three
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died

There is no difference between communism and socialism,
except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
communism proposes to enslave men by force,
socialism - by vote.
It is merely the difference between murder and suicide
#Ayn Rand

SOCIALISM is so great that people build boats out of trash
to float away from it.

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On 24/07/2026 6:27 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:00:32 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 23/07/2026 11:12 am, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 21:41:42 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 22/07/2026 9:23 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours >>>>>> ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter which of >>>> US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal nitpicker you are!

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to try
to teach you something, Petzl??

That's a label Rod Speed classified you as, I agree, suits you. <https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ>
They did in fact spend considerable money on mine and wasted
it on my spelling and foreign languages, you anal nit picker.

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to try
to teach you something, Petzl??

I mean you, Petzl, are the great 'Know it All", aren't you??

Try to state the truth, you don't, you try to ridicule and malign!

You, Petzl, and the TRUTH are seldom with-in the same Post-code!!

Those who mock others are dealing with their own inner unhappiness.

.... but WHY must you do it HERE, Petzl??
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:59:43 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 24/07/2026 6:27 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:00:32 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 23/07/2026 11:12 am, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 21:41:42 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 22/07/2026 9:23 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours >>>>>>> ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter which of >>>>> US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal nitpicker you are!

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to try
to teach you something, Petzl??

That's a label Rod Speed classified you as, I agree, suits you.
<https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ>
They did in fact spend considerable money on mine and wasted
it on my spelling and foreign languages, you anal nit picker.

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to try
to teach you something, Petzl??

If you click the link you will see it was Rod Speed that named you
"anal nit picker"

I mean you, Petzl, are the great 'Know it All", aren't you??

Try to state the truth, you don't, you try to ridicule and malign!

You, Petzl, and the TRUTH are seldom with-in the same Post-code!!

Those who mock others are dealing with their own inner unhappiness.

.... but WHY must you do it HERE, Petzl??

--
Petzl
It's hard to win an argument with a smart person but it's damn near impossible to win
an argument with a stupid person

When you're dead, you don't know you're dead.
The pain is felt by others.

The same thing happens when you're stupid
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 20:33:39 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:59:43 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 24/07/2026 6:27 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:00:32 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 23/07/2026 11:12 am, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 21:41:42 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 22/07/2026 9:23 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 >>>>>>>> hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter
which of
US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal nitpicker you are!

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to
try
to teach you something, Petzl??

That's a label Rod Speed classified you as, I agree, suits you.
<https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ>
They did in fact spend considerable money on mine and wasted
it on my spelling and foreign languages, you anal nit picker.

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to try
to teach you something, Petzl??

If you click the link you will see it was Rod Speed that named you
"anal nit picker"

I never did anything of the sort and have never used that phrase

I mean you, Petzl, are the great 'Know it All", aren't you??

Try to state the truth, you don't, you try to ridicule and malign!

You, Petzl, and the TRUTH are seldom with-in the same Post-code!!

Those who mock others are dealing with their own inner unhappiness.

.... but WHY must you do it HERE, Petzl??

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On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 02:49:29 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 20:33:39 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:59:43 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 24/07/2026 6:27 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:00:32 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 23/07/2026 11:12 am, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 21:41:42 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 22/07/2026 9:23 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 >>>>>>>>> hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter >>>>>>> which of
US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal nitpicker you are!

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to >>>>> try
to teach you something, Petzl??

That's a label Rod Speed classified you as, I agree, suits you.
<https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ> >>>> They did in fact spend considerable money on mine and wasted
it on my spelling and foreign languages, you anal nit picker.

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to try
to teach you something, Petzl??

If you click the link you will see it was Rod Speed that named you
"anal nit picker"

I never did anything of the sort and have never used that phrase

Well if you click that link someone saying they were you did? <https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ>

I mean you, Petzl, are the great 'Know it All", aren't you??

Try to state the truth, you don't, you try to ridicule and malign!

You, Petzl, and the TRUTH are seldom with-in the same Post-code!!

Those who mock others are dealing with their own inner unhappiness.

.... but WHY must you do it HERE, Petzl??

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major depression, and two world wars.
Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 07:47:04 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 02:49:29 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 20:33:39 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:59:43 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 24/07/2026 6:27 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:00:32 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 23/07/2026 11:12 am, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 21:41:42 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 22/07/2026 9:23 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 >>>>>>>>>> hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time. >>>>>>>>>>

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter >>>>>>>> which of
US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal nitpicker you are!

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to >>>>>> try
to teach you something, Petzl??

That's a label Rod Speed classified you as, I agree, suits you.
<https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ> >>>>> They did in fact spend considerable money on mine and wasted
it on my spelling and foreign languages, you anal nit picker.

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to
try
to teach you something, Petzl??

If you click the link you will see it was Rod Speed that named you
"anal nit picker"

I never did anything of the sort and have never used that phrase

Well if you click that link someone saying they were you did? <https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ>

Yep, someone pretending to be me

I mean you, Petzl, are the great 'Know it All", aren't you??

Try to state the truth, you don't, you try to ridicule and malign!

You, Petzl, and the TRUTH are seldom with-in the same Post-code!!

Those who mock others are dealing with their own inner unhappiness.

.... but WHY must you do it HERE, Petzl??

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Rod Speed

Petz

Daniel70

Petz

/snip/

... you anal nit picker.

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to try >>>> to teach you something, Petzl??

If you click the link you will see it was Rod Speed that named you
"anal nit picker"

Just because some idiot invents/uses a manufactured ad hom phrase
instead of responding with rational arguments it does not absolve you,
Petz dear, from doing the very same thing.

I never did anything of the sort and have never used that phrase

Well if you click that link someone saying they were you did? <https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ>

Who the fuck cares about that abandoned 'google groups' any more. Even
Google does snot!

/snip/

Try to state the truth, you don't, you try to ridicule and malign!

Why do you expect rational people to deal with your hate tirades and the
rest of the ridiculous nonsense you keep pulling out of your own arse
nonsense seriously? Specially not, since you keep on ridiculing and
maligning anything others dare to post you outright hate/don't like for
some unspecified reasons. I lost count of how many times you have
responded to my posts completely disregarding the its actual content
with rants against communism in hope to somehow anger me (hey, this
deplorable tactic of yours has always been a huge failure, LOL)

You, Petzl, and the TRUTH are seldom with-in the same Post-code!!

Does Petz's Shitboxvile parkbench home have a unique postcode, I wonder!
:-P

Those who mock others are dealing with their own inner unhappiness.

.... but WHY must you do it HERE, Petzl??

Apparently this is the only place where people are still responding to
him. I assume that from anywhere else he tries to do this he is kicked
out of with urgency. I can imagine what his fellow park-bench dwellers
think of him! It surely ain't pretty! ;-)
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 08:37:19 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 07:47:04 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 02:49:29 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 20:33:39 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:59:43 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 24/07/2026 6:27 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:00:32 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 23/07/2026 11:12 am, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 21:41:42 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 22/07/2026 9:23 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 >>>>>>>>>>> hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time. >>>>>>>>>>>

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter >>>>>>>>> which of
US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal nitpicker you are! >>>>>>>>

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to >>>>>>> try
to teach you something, Petzl??

That's a label Rod Speed classified you as, I agree, suits you.
<https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ> >>>>>> They did in fact spend considerable money on mine and wasted
it on my spelling and foreign languages, you anal nit picker.

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to >>>>> try
to teach you something, Petzl??

If you click the link you will see it was Rod Speed that named you
"anal nit picker"

I never did anything of the sort and have never used that phrase

Well if you click that link someone saying they were you did?
<https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ>

Yep, someone pretending to be me

Can't see it was actually you, but the description suits Daniel70

I mean you, Petzl, are the great 'Know it All", aren't you??

Try to state the truth, you don't, you try to ridicule and malign!

You, Petzl, and the TRUTH are seldom with-in the same Post-code!!

Those who mock others are dealing with their own inner unhappiness. >>>>>

.... but WHY must you do it HERE, Petzl??

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You Can Be a Communist or a Patriot,
but You CANNOT BE BOTH.
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On 24/07/2026 8:33 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:59:43 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 24/07/2026 6:27 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:00:32 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 23/07/2026 11:12 am, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 21:41:42 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 22/07/2026 9:23 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 hours >>>>>>>> ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter which of >>>>>> US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal nitpicker you are!

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to try >>>> to teach you something, Petzl??

That's a label Rod Speed classified you as, I agree, suits you.
<https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ>
They did in fact spend considerable money on mine and wasted
it on my spelling and foreign languages, you anal nit picker.

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to try
to teach you something, Petzl??

If you click the link you will see it was Rod Speed that named you
"anal nit picker"

Sure, Petzl, sure .... but it was YOU, Petzl, who posted it THIS TIME!!

I mean you, Petzl, are the great 'Know it All", aren't you??

Try to state the truth, you don't, you try to ridicule and malign!

You, Petzl, and the TRUTH are seldom with-in the same Post-code!!

Those who mock others are dealing with their own inner unhappiness.

.... but WHY must you do it HERE, Petzl??

No answer, Petzl??
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On 25/07/2026 3:19 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 08:37:19 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 07:47:04 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 02:49:29 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 20:33:39 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:59:43 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 24/07/2026 6:27 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:00:32 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 23/07/2026 11:12 am, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 21:41:42 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 22/07/2026 9:23 pm, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 20:11:49 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs
ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast
Australia was 10 hours ahead of London because
London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.
Doesn't matter which of US is on DST or NOT, London
is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal
nitpicker you are!

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE
that dares to try to teach you something, Petzl??

That's a label Rod Speed classified you as, I agree,
suits you.
<https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ> >>>>>>>
They did in fact spend considerable money on mine and wasted
it on my spelling and foreign languages, you anal nit
picker.

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that
dares to try to teach you something, Petzl??

If you click the link you will see it was Rod Speed that
named you "anal nit picker"

I never did anything of the sort and have never used that
phrase

Well if you click that link someone saying they were you did?
<https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ>

Yep, someone pretending to be me

Can't see it was actually you, but the description suits Daniel70

Sorry!! NOW, Petzl, you "Can't see it was actually you" but back WHAT,
four posts, you, Petzl, DID type 'it was Rod Speed that named you "anal
nit picker"'!!

So were YOU, Petzl, Lying just NOW or back THEN, Petzl??
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Daniel70

Petz

Daniel70

Petz

Daniel70

Petz

Daniel70

Petz

Daniel70

without daylight saving Canberra is +10Hrs ahead of UK

Yes, before either country had DST, east coast Australia was 10 >>>>>>>>> hours
ahead of London because London was at Greenwich Mean Time.

Yes ten hours and the day stamp before London

No, Petzl, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl. Doesn't matter
which of
US is on DST or NOT, London is *ALWAYS BEHIND* us, Petzl.

Knew you would go out of your way to be anal nitpicker you are!

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to >>>>> try to teach you something, Petzl??

That's a label Rod Speed classified you as, I agree, suits you.
<https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ> >>>> They did in fact spend considerable money on mine and wasted
it on my spelling and foreign languages, you anal nit picker.

"anal nitpicker"?? Is that a term you apply to ANYONE that dares to try
to teach you something, Petzl??

If you click the link you will see it was Rod Speed that named you
-a "anal nit picker"

Sure, Petzl, sure .... but it was YOU, Petzl, who posted it THIS TIME!!

Petz never seems to run out of his endless collection of absolutely
pathetic excuses!
;-)

I mean you, Petzl, are the great 'Know it All", aren't you??

Try to state the truth, you don't, you try to ridicule and malign!

You, Petzl, and the TRUTH are seldom with-in the same Post-code!!

Those who mock others are dealing with their own inner unhappiness.

.... but WHY must you do it HERE, Petzl??

No answer, Petzl??

But when nothing else helps, Petz always does the disappearing act
instead of continuing with his silly defence of the indefensible or by offering a fitting apology. Petz must love lazy solutions.
What a surprise .... NOT!
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/snip/

Can't see it was actually you, but the description suits Daniel70

Hey Petz?
Are you confirming here that you dug through cyberspace just to find an
ad hom abusive phrase you liked to be deployed against your debating
opponent in the newsgroup?
Is this some sort of admission on your part regarding your lack of
personal inventiveness on how to come up with something of your creation?

C'me on Petz, just don't be lazy and strain yourself a little. After all
from time to time you can still manufacture very striking nonsense about
your newsgroup opponents!

For instance, pretending that you actually knew something/anything about caving clubs in OZ (or for that matter anywhere else on the planet)
including their legal status, function, leadership structures and
personnel compositions.
How about your pathetic attempt at pretending to know anything about me outside cyberspace! LOL!

It did not take me long to prove that you were lying before!

Hey you did not even know that other caving clubs existed in NSW apart
from the two you somehow managed to name.
I have called your bluff before but instead of admitting that you have
lied you did a runner, eh Petz dear?

Here, I give you another chance to prove your extensive insider
knowledge on this subject and name at least three elected society
members currently serving on the Sydney Speleological Society's
committee also stating their office bearer status within the club. Also, something much easier to find on the web ... please try to name at least
three other caving clubs currently actively caving within NSW apart from
SSS and SUSS.

Alternatively, you could just apologise for your outrageous lies and be
done forever with this nonsense!

:-P :-P :-P

.....waiting .....waiting .....waiting .....waiting .....waiting
.....waiting .....waiting .....waiting .....waiting .....waiting

Crickets????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2026 20:20:47 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

Well if you click that link someone saying they were you did?
<https://groups.google.com/g/aus.politics/c/v62FR2TXj2k/m/jENYLcO9AQAJ> >>>
Yep, someone pretending to be me

Can't see it was actually you, but the description suits Daniel70

Sorry!! NOW, Petzl, you "Can't see it was actually you" but back WHAT,
four posts, you, Petzl, DID type 'it was Rod Speed that named you "anal
nit picker"'!!

So were YOU, Petzl, Lying just NOW or back THEN, Petzl??

Only knew that when Rod Speed stated it was not his post.
Was someone pretending to be.
I chose to believe that, as well as you still being a anal nit picker
--
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Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
major depression, and two world wars.
Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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Petz

/snip/

Can't see it was actually you, but the description suits Daniel70

Hey Petz?
Are you confirming here that you dug through cyberspace just to find an
ad hom abusive phrase you liked to be deployed against your debating opponent in the newsgroup?
Is this some sort of admission on your part regarding your lack of
personal inventiveness on how to come up with something of your creation?

C'me on Petz, just don't be lazy and strain yourself a little. After all from time to time you can still manufacture very striking nonsense about your newsgroup opponents!

For instance, pretending that you actually knew something/anything about caving clubs in OZ (or for that matter anywhere else on the planet) including their legal status, function, leadership structures and
personnel compositions.
How about your pathetic attempt at pretending to know anything about me outside cyberspace! LOL!

It did not take me long to prove that you were lying before!

Hey you did not even know that other caving clubs existed in NSW apart
from the two you somehow managed to name.
I have called your bluff before but instead of admitting that you have
lied you did a runner, eh Petz dear?

Here, I give you another chance to prove your extensive insider
knowledge on this subject and name at least three elected society
members currently serving on the Sydney Speleological Society's
committee also stating their office bearer status within the club. Also, something much easier to find on the web ... please try to name at least three other caving clubs currently actively caving within NSW apart from
SSS and SUSS.

Alternatively, you could just apologise for your outrageous lies and be
done forever with this nonsense!

:-P-a-a-a :-P-a-a-a :-P

.....waiting .....waiting .....waiting .....waiting .....waiting .....waiting .....waiting .....waiting .....waiting .....waiting

Crickets????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Indeed, just as expected, all you have left on offer now, Petz dear, are crickets!

:-P
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