• Pauline is down in polls after Press Club rant

    From Nomen Nescio@nobody@dizum.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Sun Jun 28 11:33:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 29 08:33:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 11:33:39 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio
    <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

    And you like most listened to her speech?
    Or reading the lobbyist run fakenews media rant?

    "Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists

    Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
    paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
    ThatAs the modern legislative business of parliament.

    When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
    countries we call it bribery.
    However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
    we call it lobbying.
    --
    Petzl
    In a democracy of course you always get a choice
    Do you want to be governed by the red or by the blue
    itAs entirely up to you
    Do you want to be patronized or condescended to, by liars or by crooks
    you get to choose.
    Would you prefer your fundamental values to be insulted or ignored by
    con-men or by charlatans
    In short do you want your influence to be zero or nil
    and when would you like to be listened to, never or not at all, itAs
    your choice
    Do you want, some more choices.
    Take-it-or-leave-it
    Now thereAs a real choice
    we have proportional voting in Australia USE IT
    IAd be happy with any kind of representation wouldn't you

    I would like to see a new government and part of me doesn'tAgive a
    damn whoAs in it as long as it doesn'tAinclude anybody from the Labor,
    Liberal or Green party organizations that show itself to be without
    shame or principle

    All spineless and authoritarian both cowardly and war mongering at the
    same time
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 29 08:44:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote
    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers
    And you like most listened to her speech?
    I did and that's what she said
    Or reading the lobbyist run fakenews media rant?
    "Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists
    Complete and utter pig ignorant bullshit with the ABC
    Lobbyists write the laws,
    Bullshit they do. They clearly didn't write the
    changes to negative gearing or the CGT
    parliament sells the laws,
    paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
    More of your bullshit and lies
    ThatrCOs the modern legislative business of parliament.
    More of your bullshit and lies
    When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
    countries we call it bribery.
    However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
    we call it lobbying.
    Only fools like you do anything of the sort
    <reams of yank bullshit flushed where it belongs>
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 29 09:22:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 08:44:00 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

    And you like most listened to her speech?

    I did and that's what she said

    I heard her say
    "Fit in or fuck off"
    Not what you are claiming?
    --
    Petzl
    An evil enemy will from within,
    will burn his own nation to then rule over the ashes.
    Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu
    (author of The Art of War), 5th century BC.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 29 09:47:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

    And you like most listened to her speech?

    I did and that's what she said

    I heard her say
    "Fit in or fuck off"

    She never said anything like that even using different words

    Not what you are claiming?

    While she did rave on about what problems she
    claims lots are having, she didn't propose any
    fixes for any of them and in fact has just voted
    against the recent pay rises and the budget
    changes like the tax handouts for those
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 29 10:30:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 09:47:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

    And you like most listened to her speech?

    I did and that's what she said

    I heard her say
    "Fit in or fuck off"

    She never said anything like that even using different words

    So you watched (if you did at all) on ABC

    Not what you are claiming?

    While she did rave on about what problems she
    claims lots are having, she didn't propose any
    fixes for any of them and in fact has just voted
    against the recent pay rises and the budget
    changes like the tax handouts for those
    --
    Petzl

    Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
    major depression, and two world wars.
    Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 29 10:40:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

    And you like most listened to her speech?

    I did and that's what she said

    I heard her say
    "Fit in or fuck off"

    She never said anything like that even using different words

    So you watched (if you did at all) on ABC

    Yep, watched it on iView

    Not what you are claiming?

    While she did rave on about what problems she
    claims lots are having, she didn't propose any
    fixes for any of them and in fact has just voted
    against the recent pay rises and the budget
    changes like the tax handouts for those
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 29 11:07:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 08:33:03 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 11:33:39 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio
    <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

    What "Little Aussie Battlers"?
    We the taxpaying few, are aghast at the stampede to country estates,
    fishing holes, Bali, Port Douglas, etc and so forth. The roads are
    CLOGGED with the aforementioned "battlers" in their hi-end autos
    rushing to spend (on credit cards) moneys better saved for the rainy
    day fast approaching!
    I hope Pauline introduces a departure tax, a hi-end auto tax, and a
    road-user tax on school holidays.
    Yeah man!!!
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 29 12:03:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 10:40:30 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

    And you like most listened to her speech?

    I did and that's what she said

    I heard her say
    "Fit in or fuck off"

    She never said anything like that even using different words

    So you watched (if you did at all) on ABC

    Yep, watched it on iView

    As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
    Pauline Hanson Monoculture

    How multiculturalism was endorsed by the High Court of Australia
    By redefining Religion by talking around it.

    Scientology Example: Founding Culture vs Modern Court Let's use
    Scientology (Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax
    (Vic) HCA 40)ua tax case where the High Court defined "religion"
    broadly, exempting it from payroll tax as a "religious institution".

    Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
    population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
    (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).
    Framers like Downer called Australia a "Christian Commonwealth";
    non-Christian faiths <1% (Jews, etc.).

    Section 116's "any religion" assumed Christian pluralism amid Sunday
    laws debates.
    Handling: Scientology (founded 1954, Hubbard's sci-fi
    cosmology/thetans) fails 1900 "ordinary meaning"uno supernatural
    Being/God, profit-driven courses, no ethical canon beyond self-help.

    Court rejects as "charlatanry," denies exemption; states regulate as business/cult, preserving Christian heritage without referendum.

    How the Court Actually Handled It 1983 Ruling (Mason CJ, Brennan,
    Murphy, Wilson, Deane JJ; Gibbs CJ dissenting):
    Adopted functional testubelief in supernatural Being/Principle +
    acceptance of canons of conduct (offences against ordinary law
    unprotected).

    Scientology qualifies via thetans (immortal spirits), ethics codes,
    rituals.

    Impact: Exempt from Vic payroll tax; sets national precedent for
    charities, s116.

    Murphy J emphasized protecting "heresy" from orthodoxy; no founding
    intent lock-inuwords evolve for new realities (e.g., U.S. analogies to non-theistic beliefs).

    No Referendum Needed: Court views as application, not amendmentutext
    unchanged, just broader scope.

    This analysis of the 1983 Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of
    Pay-Roll Tax (Vic) case perfectly illustrates the exact legal
    mechanism that fuels the debate over judicial power versus
    original intent.

    By detailing both perspectives, it clarifies how a system can legally
    drift away from its founding culture without ever changing a single
    letter of its written law.

    The Originalist Frustration

    The "Strict Founding Culture" reading demonstrates exactly why many
    voters feel politically manipulated by

    the legal system:
    The Textual Bait-and-Switch: The founders wrote the
    words "any religion" in a 1900 context where that undeniably meant
    Christian denominations.

    Bypassing the Public: Under a strict originalist view, if a completely
    modern, sci-fi-based movement wanted the tax benefits of a church, it
    should have been put to a referendum.

    The Consequences: By bypassing a Section 128 vote, the High Court
    effectively acted as a "mini-parliament," creating a massive tax
    loophole for a group the founders would have easily classified as a
    business enterprise

    The Judicial Reality
    The "How the Court Actually Handled It" section
    explains the administrative mechanics of the modern Australian legal
    system:
    Connotation vs. Denotation:
    The judges did not change the text of Section 116; they simply
    expanded the list of things that fit inside the definition of the word "religion".
    "The Danger of Narrow Definitions:
    Justices Mason and Brennan argued that if the court restricted
    "religion" only to Christianity, it would leave the state with the
    terrifying power to decide which specific beliefs are "true" or
    "false"ua power that historically leads to authoritarianism.

    The Murphy Doctrine: Justice Lionel MurphyAs insistence on protecting
    "heresy" highlights the shift toward international human rights
    standards over traditional British-Australian cultural preservation.

    The Ultimate Loophole
    This case provides the ultimate blueprint for how Australia
    transformed from the "Christian Commonwealth" envisioned by Sir John
    Downer into the modern, multicultural state it is today.

    It proves that the major political parties do not need to risk a
    referendum to change the nationAs cultural direction.

    They simply pass broad, vaguely worded statutes, and let a highly
    trained, unelected judiciary expand the definitions over time to
    accommodate international treaties, global movements, and new
    demographic realities
    --
    Petzl

    Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
    major depression, and two world wars.
    Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 29 14:11:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

    What "Little Aussie Battlers"?
    We the taxpaying few,

    Mindless bullshit on the few claim

    Almost everyone pays some tax, even if its only the GST

    are aghast at the stampede to country estates,
    fishing holes, Bali, Port Douglas, etc and so forth.

    More mindless bullshit

    The roads are
    CLOGGED with the aforementioned "battlers" in their hi-end autos
    rushing to spend (on credit cards) moneys better saved for the rainy
    day fast approaching!

    More mindless bullshit on the fast approaching

    I hope Pauline introduces a departure tax,a hi-end auto tax, and a
    road-user tax on school holidays.

    Not going to happen given that she will never
    be in any position to ever introduce any tax

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 29 14:29:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote
    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers
    And you like most listened to her speech?
    I did and that's what she said
    I heard her say
    "Fit in or fuck off"
    She never said anything like that even using different words
    So you watched (if you did at all) on ABC
    Yep, watched it on iView
    As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
    Pauline Hanson Monoculture
    She has since rabbited on about it elsewhere as well
    How multiculturalism was endorsed by the High Court of Australia
    Bullshit it ever did
    By redefining Religion by talking around it.
    No religion was ever redefined and multiculture
    has always been around LONG before there was
    ever any federal constitution or any High Court
    Scientology Example: Founding Culture vs Modern Court Let's use
    Scientology (Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax
    (Vic) HCA 40)rCoa tax case where the High Court defined "religion"
    broadly, exempting it from payroll tax as a "religious institution".
    Irrelevant to multiculturalism, that was JUST making it clear
    what the court believed that the tax law applied to and didn't
    refine religion at all
    Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
    population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
    (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).
    Mindless bullshit the jews, chinese, afghans, abos. sikhs etc
    Framers like Downer called Australia a "Christian Commonwealth";
    And S116 says the exact opposite
    non-Christian faiths <1% (Jews, etc.).
    Section 116's "any religion" assumed Christian pluralism amid Sunday
    laws debates.
    Bullshit it did anything of the sort
    Handling: Scientology (founded 1954, Hubbard's sci-fi
    cosmology/thetans) fails 1900 "ordinary meaning"rCono supernatural
    Being/God, profit-driven courses, no ethical canon beyond self-help.
    More mindless bullshit given the real meaning of that word
    which includes some belief in some supernatural being and
    obviously included a hell of a lot more than just christianity
    Court rejects as "charlatanry," denies exemption; states regulate as business/cult, preserving Christian heritage without referendum.
    Irrelevant to the real meaning of religion which includes
    some belief in some supernatural being and obviously
    includes a hell of a lot more than just christianity
    And some religions don't even include any belief in some
    supernatural being
    How the Court Actually Handled It 1983 Ruling (Mason CJ, Brennan,
    Murphy, Wilson, Deane JJ; Gibbs CJ dissenting):
    Adopted functional testrCobelief in supernatural Being/Principle +
    acceptance of canons of conduct (offences against ordinary law
    unprotected).
    Scientology qualifies via thetans (immortal spirits), ethics codes,
    rituals.
    Impact: Exempt from Vic payroll tax; sets national precedent for
    charities, s116.
    All irrelevant to multiculturalism
    Murphy J emphasized protecting "heresy" from orthodoxy; no founding
    intent lock-inrCowords evolve for new realities (e.g., U.S. analogies to non-theistic beliefs).
    No Referendum Needed: Court views as application, not amendmentrCotext unchanged, just broader scope.
    <reams of crap irrelevant to multiculturalism flushed where it belongs>
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 29 15:01:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 14:29:28 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

    And you like most listened to her speech?

    I did and that's what she said

    I heard her say
    "Fit in or fuck off"

    She never said anything like that even using different words

    So you watched (if you did at all) on ABC

    Yep, watched it on iView

    As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference
    https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
    Pauline Hanson Monoculture

    She has since rabbited on about it elsewhere as well

    How multiculturalism was endorsed by the High Court of Australia

    Bullshit it ever did

    By redefining Religion by talking around it.

    No religion was ever redefined and multiculture
    has always been around LONG before there was
    ever any federal constitution or any High Court

    Scientology Example: Founding Culture vs Modern Court Let's use
    Scientology (Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax
    (Vic) HCA 40)ua tax case where the High Court defined "religion"
    broadly, exempting it from payroll tax as a "religious institution".

    Irrelevant to multiculturalism, that was JUST making it clear
    what the court believed that the tax law applied to and didn't
    refine religion at all

    Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
    population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
    (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).

    Mindless bullshit the jews, chinese, afghans, abos. sikhs etc

    Australian colonists demanded Australia become a Christian only
    Monoculture, without that guarantee Federation would of been still
    born.

    Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
    Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
    aOur Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian CommonwealthA.



    The Originalist Frustration

    The "Strict Founding Culture" reading demonstrates exactly why many
    voters feel politically manipulated by

    the legal system:
    The Textual Bait-and-Switch: The founders wrote the
    words "any religion" in a 1900 context where that
    undeniably only meant Christian denominations.

    Bypassing the Public:
    Under a strict originalist view, if a completely modern, sci-fi-based
    movement wanted the tax benefits of a church, it should have been put
    to a referendum.

    The Consequences:
    By bypassing a Section 128 vote, the High Court effectively acted as a "mini-parliament," creating a massive tax loophole for a group the
    founders would have easily classified as a business enterprise

    The Judicial Reality
    The "How the Court Actually Handled It" section explains the
    administrative mechanics of the modern Australian legal system
    Connotation vs. Denotation:
    The judges did not change the text of Section 116; they simply
    expanded the list of things that fit inside the definition of the word "religion".

    "The Danger of Narrow Definitions:
    Justices Mason and Brennan argued that if the court restricted
    "religion" only to Christianity, it would leave the state with the
    terrifying power to decide which specific beliefs are "true" or
    "false"ua power that historically leads to authoritarianism.

    The Murphy Doctrine: Justice Lionel MurphyAs insistence on protecting
    "heresy" highlights the shift toward international human rights
    standards over traditional British-Australian cultural preservation.

    The Ultimate Loophole
    This case provides the ultimate blueprint for how Australia
    transformed from the "Christian Commonwealth" envisioned by Sir John
    Downer into the modern, multicultural state it is today.

    It proves that the major political parties do not need to risk a
    referendum to change the nationAs cultural direction.

    They simply pass broad, vaguely worded statutes, and let a highly
    trained, unelected judiciary expand the definitions over time to
    accommodate international treaties, global movements, and new
    demographic realities
    --
    Petzl
    It's hard to win an argument with a smart person but it's damn near impossible to win
    an argument with a stupid person

    When you're dead, you don't know you're dead.
    The pain is felt by others.

    The same thing happens when you're stupid
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  • From Oped@oped@usenet.example to aus.politics on Mon Jun 29 15:46:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/6/26 12:03, Petzl wrote:

    Great post Petz. It goes to show that s.116 or anything resembling a
    'bill of rights' should never have been put into the Constitution.

    How anybody could regard something like Scientology as a 'religion'
    rather than a satanic cult is beyond me.

    Obviously these judges are some brand of atheist with an animus against Christianity, and they exploited their unelected positions to do the damage.



    As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
    Pauline Hanson Monoculture

    How multiculturalism was endorsed by the High Court of Australia
    By redefining Religion by talking around it.

    Scientology Example: Founding Culture vs Modern Court Let's use
    Scientology (Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax
    (Vic) HCA 40)rCoa tax case where the High Court defined "religion"
    broadly, exempting it from payroll tax as a "religious institution".

    Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
    population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
    (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).
    Framers like Downer called Australia a "Christian Commonwealth"; non-Christian faiths <1% (Jews, etc.).

    Section 116's "any religion" assumed Christian pluralism amid Sunday
    laws debates.
    Handling: Scientology (founded 1954, Hubbard's sci-fi
    cosmology/thetans) fails 1900 "ordinary meaning"rCono supernatural
    Being/God, profit-driven courses, no ethical canon beyond self-help.

    Court rejects as "charlatanry," denies exemption; states regulate as business/cult, preserving Christian heritage without referendum.

    How the Court Actually Handled It 1983 Ruling (Mason CJ, Brennan,
    Murphy, Wilson, Deane JJ; Gibbs CJ dissenting):
    Adopted functional testrCobelief in supernatural Being/Principle +
    acceptance of canons of conduct (offences against ordinary law
    unprotected).

    Scientology qualifies via thetans (immortal spirits), ethics codes,
    rituals.

    Impact: Exempt from Vic payroll tax; sets national precedent for
    charities, s116.

    Murphy J emphasized protecting "heresy" from orthodoxy; no founding
    intent lock-inrCowords evolve for new realities (e.g., U.S. analogies to non-theistic beliefs).

    No Referendum Needed: Court views as application, not amendmentrCotext unchanged, just broader scope.

    This analysis of the 1983 Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of
    Pay-Roll Tax (Vic) case perfectly illustrates the exact legal
    mechanism that fuels the debate over judicial power versus
    original intent.

    By detailing both perspectives, it clarifies how a system can legally
    drift away from its founding culture without ever changing a single
    letter of its written law.

    The Originalist Frustration

    The "Strict Founding Culture" reading demonstrates exactly why many
    voters feel politically manipulated by

    the legal system:
    The Textual Bait-and-Switch: The founders wrote the
    words "any religion" in a 1900 context where that undeniably meant
    Christian denominations.

    Bypassing the Public: Under a strict originalist view, if a completely modern, sci-fi-based movement wanted the tax benefits of a church, it
    should have been put to a referendum.

    The Consequences: By bypassing a Section 128 vote, the High Court
    effectively acted as a "mini-parliament," creating a massive tax
    loophole for a group the founders would have easily classified as a
    business enterprise

    The Judicial Reality
    The "How the Court Actually Handled It" section
    explains the administrative mechanics of the modern Australian legal
    system:
    Connotation vs. Denotation:
    The judges did not change the text of Section 116; they simply
    expanded the list of things that fit inside the definition of the word "religion".
    "The Danger of Narrow Definitions:
    Justices Mason and Brennan argued that if the court restricted
    "religion" only to Christianity, it would leave the state with the
    terrifying power to decide which specific beliefs are "true" or
    "false"rCoa power that historically leads to authoritarianism.

    The Murphy Doctrine: Justice Lionel MurphyrCOs insistence on protecting "heresy" highlights the shift toward international human rights
    standards over traditional British-Australian cultural preservation.

    The Ultimate Loophole
    This case provides the ultimate blueprint for how Australia
    transformed from the "Christian Commonwealth" envisioned by Sir John
    Downer into the modern, multicultural state it is today.

    It proves that the major political parties do not need to risk a
    referendum to change the nationrCOs cultural direction.

    They simply pass broad, vaguely worded statutes, and let a highly
    trained, unelected judiciary expand the definitions over time to
    accommodate international treaties, global movements, and new
    demographic realities

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  • From Oped@oped@usenet.example to aus.politics on Mon Jun 29 15:51:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/6/26 12:03, Petzl wrote:

    Great post Petz. It goes to show that s.116 or anything resembling a
    'bill of rights' should never have been put into the Constitution.

    How anybody could regard something like Scientology as a 'religion'
    rather than a satanic cult is beyond me.

    Obviously these judges are some brand of atheist with an animus against Christianity, and they exploited their unelected positions to do the damage.



    As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
    Pauline Hanson Monoculture

    How multiculturalism was endorsed by the High Court of Australia
    By redefining Religion by talking around it.

    Scientology Example: Founding Culture vs Modern Court Let's use
    Scientology (Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax
    (Vic) HCA 40)rCoa tax case where the High Court defined "religion"
    broadly, exempting it from payroll tax as a "religious institution".

    Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
    population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
    (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).
    Framers like Downer called Australia a "Christian Commonwealth"; non-Christian faiths <1% (Jews, etc.).

    Section 116's "any religion" assumed Christian pluralism amid Sunday
    laws debates.
    Handling: Scientology (founded 1954, Hubbard's sci-fi
    cosmology/thetans) fails 1900 "ordinary meaning"rCono supernatural
    Being/God, profit-driven courses, no ethical canon beyond self-help.

    Court rejects as "charlatanry," denies exemption; states regulate as business/cult, preserving Christian heritage without referendum.

    How the Court Actually Handled It 1983 Ruling (Mason CJ, Brennan,
    Murphy, Wilson, Deane JJ; Gibbs CJ dissenting):
    Adopted functional testrCobelief in supernatural Being/Principle +
    acceptance of canons of conduct (offences against ordinary law
    unprotected).

    Scientology qualifies via thetans (immortal spirits), ethics codes,
    rituals.

    Impact: Exempt from Vic payroll tax; sets national precedent for
    charities, s116.

    Murphy J emphasized protecting "heresy" from orthodoxy; no founding
    intent lock-inrCowords evolve for new realities (e.g., U.S. analogies to non-theistic beliefs).

    No Referendum Needed: Court views as application, not amendmentrCotext unchanged, just broader scope.

    This analysis of the 1983 Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of
    Pay-Roll Tax (Vic) case perfectly illustrates the exact legal
    mechanism that fuels the debate over judicial power versus
    original intent.

    By detailing both perspectives, it clarifies how a system can legally
    drift away from its founding culture without ever changing a single
    letter of its written law.

    The Originalist Frustration

    The "Strict Founding Culture" reading demonstrates exactly why many
    voters feel politically manipulated by

    the legal system:
    The Textual Bait-and-Switch: The founders wrote the
    words "any religion" in a 1900 context where that undeniably meant
    Christian denominations.

    Bypassing the Public: Under a strict originalist view, if a completely modern, sci-fi-based movement wanted the tax benefits of a church, it
    should have been put to a referendum.

    The Consequences: By bypassing a Section 128 vote, the High Court
    effectively acted as a "mini-parliament," creating a massive tax
    loophole for a group the founders would have easily classified as a
    business enterprise

    The Judicial Reality
    The "How the Court Actually Handled It" section
    explains the administrative mechanics of the modern Australian legal
    system:
    Connotation vs. Denotation:
    The judges did not change the text of Section 116; they simply
    expanded the list of things that fit inside the definition of the word "religion".
    "The Danger of Narrow Definitions:
    Justices Mason and Brennan argued that if the court restricted
    "religion" only to Christianity, it would leave the state with the
    terrifying power to decide which specific beliefs are "true" or
    "false"rCoa power that historically leads to authoritarianism.

    The Murphy Doctrine: Justice Lionel MurphyrCOs insistence on protecting "heresy" highlights the shift toward international human rights
    standards over traditional British-Australian cultural preservation.

    The Ultimate Loophole
    This case provides the ultimate blueprint for how Australia
    transformed from the "Christian Commonwealth" envisioned by Sir John
    Downer into the modern, multicultural state it is today.

    It proves that the major political parties do not need to risk a
    referendum to change the nationrCOs cultural direction.

    They simply pass broad, vaguely worded statutes, and let a highly
    trained, unelected judiciary expand the definitions over time to
    accommodate international treaties, global movements, and new
    demographic realities

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics on Mon Jun 29 16:55:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 15:46:45 +1000, Oped <oped@usenet.example> wrote:

    On 29/6/26 12:03, Petzl wrote:

    Great post Petz. It goes to show that s.116 or anything resembling a
    'bill of rights' should never have been put into the Constitution.

    How anybody could regard something like Scientology as a 'religion'
    rather than a satanic cult is beyond me.

    Obviously these judges are some brand of atheist with an animus against >Christianity, and they exploited their unelected positions to do the damage.

    Scientology is banned in many counties as a scam,
    here are a few
    Scientology has been shut down in Greece, indicted in Spain, its
    activities restricted in Russia, rebuffed by Sweden's highest court,
    expelled from college campuses in Norway, convicted of crimes in
    Canada and denied status as a charitable organization or a religion in
    most European countries.

    In Australia the Arab lobby wanted Islam legalized the high court was
    used to do this using Scientology as a funded tax dodge.

    With Christianity as a Monoculture it does not impact anyone who does
    not wish to become part of it. But it denied other faiths from
    becoming a Tax payer funded religion, also applies to Schools.


    As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference
    https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
    Pauline Hanson Monoculture

    How multiculturalism was endorsed by the High Court of Australia
    By redefining Religion by talking around it.

    Scientology Example: Founding Culture vs Modern Court Let's use
    Scientology (Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax
    (Vic) HCA 40)ua tax case where the High Court defined "religion"
    broadly, exempting it from payroll tax as a "religious institution".

    Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
    population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
    (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).
    Framers like Downer called Australia a "Christian Commonwealth";
    non-Christian faiths <1% (Jews, etc.).

    Section 116's "any religion" assumed Christian pluralism amid Sunday
    laws debates.
    Handling: Scientology (founded 1954, Hubbard's sci-fi
    cosmology/thetans) fails 1900 "ordinary meaning"uno supernatural
    Being/God, profit-driven courses, no ethical canon beyond self-help.

    Court rejects as "charlatanry," denies exemption; states regulate as
    business/cult, preserving Christian heritage without referendum.

    How the Court Actually Handled It 1983 Ruling (Mason CJ, Brennan,
    Murphy, Wilson, Deane JJ; Gibbs CJ dissenting):
    Adopted functional testubelief in supernatural Being/Principle +
    acceptance of canons of conduct (offences against ordinary law
    unprotected).

    Scientology qualifies via thetans (immortal spirits), ethics codes,
    rituals.

    Impact: Exempt from Vic payroll tax; sets national precedent for
    charities, s116.

    Murphy J emphasized protecting "heresy" from orthodoxy; no founding
    intent lock-inuwords evolve for new realities (e.g., U.S. analogies to
    non-theistic beliefs).

    No Referendum Needed: Court views as application, not amendmentutext
    unchanged, just broader scope.

    This analysis of the 1983 Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of
    Pay-Roll Tax (Vic) case perfectly illustrates the exact legal
    mechanism that fuels the debate over judicial power versus
    original intent.

    By detailing both perspectives, it clarifies how a system can legally
    drift away from its founding culture without ever changing a single
    letter of its written law.

    The Originalist Frustration

    The "Strict Founding Culture" reading demonstrates exactly why many
    voters feel politically manipulated by

    the legal system:
    The Textual Bait-and-Switch: The founders wrote the
    words "any religion" in a 1900 context where that undeniably meant
    Christian denominations.

    Bypassing the Public: Under a strict originalist view, if a completely
    modern, sci-fi-based movement wanted the tax benefits of a church, it
    should have been put to a referendum.

    The Consequences: By bypassing a Section 128 vote, the High Court
    effectively acted as a "mini-parliament," creating a massive tax
    loophole for a group the founders would have easily classified as a
    business enterprise

    The Judicial Reality
    The "How the Court Actually Handled It" section
    explains the administrative mechanics of the modern Australian legal
    system:
    Connotation vs. Denotation:
    The judges did not change the text of Section 116; they simply
    expanded the list of things that fit inside the definition of the word
    "religion".
    "The Danger of Narrow Definitions:
    Justices Mason and Brennan argued that if the court restricted
    "religion" only to Christianity, it would leave the state with the
    terrifying power to decide which specific beliefs are "true" or
    "false"ua power that historically leads to authoritarianism.

    The Murphy Doctrine: Justice Lionel MurphyAs insistence on protecting
    "heresy" highlights the shift toward international human rights
    standards over traditional British-Australian cultural preservation.

    The Ultimate Loophole
    This case provides the ultimate blueprint for how Australia
    transformed from the "Christian Commonwealth" envisioned by Sir John
    Downer into the modern, multicultural state it is today.

    It proves that the major political parties do not need to risk a
    referendum to change the nationAs cultural direction.

    They simply pass broad, vaguely worded statutes, and let a highly
    trained, unelected judiciary expand the definitions over time to
    accommodate international treaties, global movements, and new
    demographic realities
    --
    Petzl
    "Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists

    Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
    paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
    ThatAs the modern legislative business of parliament.

    When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
    countries we call it bribery.
    However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
    we call it lobbying.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 29 17:33:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote
    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers>>>>>>>>> And you like most listened to her speech?
    I did and that's what she said
    I heard her say
    "Fit in or fuck off"
    She never said anything like that even using different words
    So you watched (if you did at all) on ABC
    Yep, watched it on iView
    As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference
    https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
    Pauline Hanson Monoculture
    She has since rabbited on about it elsewhere as well
    Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
    population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
    (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).
    Mindless bullshit given the jews, chinese, afghans, abos. sikhs etc
    Australian colonists demanded Australia become a Christian only
    Monoculture,
    That never happened, most obviously with the jews, afghans, abos. sikhs etc
    without that guarantee Federation would of been still born.
    Complete and utter pig ignorant bullshit
    Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
    Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
    rCyOur Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian CommonwealthrCO.
    And the constitution ended up with S116 ANYWAY
    The Originalist Frustration
    The "Strict Founding Culture" reading demonstrates exactly why many
    voters feel politically manipulated by
    the legal system:
    The Textual Bait-and-Switch: The founders wrote the
    words "any religion" in a 1900 context where that
    undeniably only meant Christian denominations.
    Mindless bullshit given the jews, chinese, afghans, abos. sikhs etc
    Bypassing the Public:
    Under a strict originalist view, if a completely modern, sci-fi-based movement wanted the tax benefits of a church, it should have been put
    to a referendum.
    More mindless bullshit as your previous steaming turd said
    The Consequences:
    By bypassing a Section 128 vote, the High Court effectively acted as a> "mini-parliament," creating a massive tax loophole for a group the
    founders would have easily classified as a business enterprise
    There never was any bypassing of S128 because
    there was no change to the constitution
    The Judicial Reality
    The "How the Court Actually Handled It" section explains the
    administrative mechanics of the modern Australian legal system
    Connotation vs. Denotation:
    The judges did not change the text of Section 116; they simply
    expanded the list of things that fit inside the definition of the word> "religion".
    There was no expansion because religion is not defined in the constitution
    "The Danger of Narrow Definitions:
    Justices Mason and Brennan argued that if the court restricted
    "religion" only to Christianity, it would leave the state with the
    terrifying power to decide which specific beliefs are "true" or
    "false"rCoa power that historically leads to authoritarianism.
    And that is correct
    The Murphy Doctrine: Justice Lionel MurphyrCOs insistence on protecting "heresy"
    There is no such doctrine
    highlights the shift toward international human rights standards
    More mindless bullshit given that WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD MULTICULTURALISM
    over traditional British-Australian cultural preservation.
    No such animal
    The Ultimate Loophole
    This case provides the ultimate blueprint for how Australia
    transformed from the "Christian Commonwealth" envisioned by Sir John
    Downer into the modern, multicultural state it is today.
    While he wanted that, that never happened
    so there never was any transformation
    It proves that the major political parties do not need to risk a
    referendum to change the nationrCOs cultural direction.
    There never was any change in cultural direction given
    that WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD MULTICULTURALISM
    They simply pass broad, vaguely worded statutes, and let a highly
    trained, unelected judiciary expand the definitions over time to
    accommodate international treaties, global movements, and new
    demographic realities
    That never happened given that WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD MULTICULTURALISM
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics on Mon Jun 29 17:38:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Oped <oped@usenet.example> wrote
    Petzl wrote

    Great post Petz. It goes to show that s.116 or anything resembling a
    'bill of rights' should never have been put into the Constitution.

    How anybody could regard something like Scientology as a 'religion'
    rather than a satanic cult is beyond me.

    Your problem given that plenty of other religions don't have
    any supernatural involved

    Obviously these judges are some brand of atheist with an animus against Christianity,

    In fact they were ALL practicing christians

    and they exploited their unelected positions to do the damage.

    There is no damage
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics on Mon Jun 29 17:58:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    Scientology is banned in many counties as a scam,

    And S116 means that that can't happen here

    here are a few
    Scientology has been shut down in Greece, indicted in Spain,

    Pity about the Spanish Inquisition

    its activities restricted in Russia,

    Those fools tried to stamp out christianity

    rebuffed by Sweden's highest court,

    More of your pig ignorant bullshit https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ce929303-87c3-4266-85eb-f9eb0614214b

    expelled from college campuses in Norway,

    Never happened

    convicted of crimes in Canada

    and denied status as a charitable organization or a religion in
    most European countries.

    Complete and utter pack of lies

    In Australia the Arab lobby wanted Islam legalized

    It was never illegal

    the high court was
    used to do this using Scientology as a funded tax dodge.

    Never happened

    With Christianity as a Monoculture

    It never was anything of the sort

    it does not impact anyone who does
    not wish to become part of it. But it denied other faiths from
    becoming a Tax payer funded religion,

    Complete and utter bullshit

    also applies to Schools.

    Complete and utter bullshit
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Tue Jun 30 08:00:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 17:33:35 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    wrote
    -- <https://www.perplexity.ai/search/rod-speed-usenet-troll-iBra.u6iSuy..0dwUJuvhQ#0>
    https://tinyurl.com/z5hh3shh
    Rod Speed is known in Usenet communities as a notorious
    argumentative figure often labeled a troll.

    So says Rod speed a egotistical self appointed know-all who knows nothing
    Rod has been on newgroups since the 80's and still the same

    Rod Speed a annoying Australian can type faster than you can talk
    Best to ignore or he will continue to bait you
    Rod speed a egotistical self appointed know-all who knows nothing
    Rod has been on newgroups since the 80's and still the same

    When he starts short vulgar bursts just stop replying--

    If you want to practice talking to his idiot responses Australia has a
    bot to practice with or he white ants you overtime you post!
    "The Rod Speed Bot"
    https://www.sensationbot.com/jschat.php?db=rodspeed

    ROD SPEED A SELF APPOINTED EGOTISTICAL KNOW-ALL WHO KNOWS NOTHING
    JUST FULL OF
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    IT DOESN'T MATTER IF ROD SPEED'S HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE,
    HIS HEAD IS UP HIS OWN ARSE, ALWAYS FARTING EYLASHES!
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics on Tue Jun 30 08:00:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 17:58:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    wrote
    -- <https://www.perplexity.ai/search/rod-speed-usenet-troll-iBra.u6iSuy..0dwUJuvhQ#0>
    https://tinyurl.com/z5hh3shh
    Rod Speed is known in Usenet communities as a notorious
    argumentative figure often labeled a troll.

    So says Rod speed a egotistical self appointed know-all who knows nothing
    Rod has been on newgroups since the 80's and still the same

    Rod Speed a annoying Australian can type faster than you can talk
    Best to ignore or he will continue to bait you
    Rod speed a egotistical self appointed know-all who knows nothing
    Rod has been on newgroups since the 80's and still the same

    When he starts short vulgar bursts just stop replying--

    If you want to practice talking to his idiot responses Australia has a
    bot to practice with or he white ants you overtime you post!
    "The Rod Speed Bot"
    https://www.sensationbot.com/jschat.php?db=rodspeed

    ROD SPEED A SELF APPOINTED EGOTISTICAL KNOW-ALL WHO KNOWS NOTHING
    JUST FULL OF
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    IT DOESN'T MATTER IF ROD SPEED'S HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE,
    HIS HEAD IS UP HIS OWN ARSE, ALWAYS FARTING EYLASHES!
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Tue Jun 30 00:21:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    ....

    Oh NO!
    Petz has run out of additional brain-numbing bullshit to post, so no he
    keeps on posting empty space.

    :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P
    --
    |urd||g
    Your unfriendly newsgroup devil at your service
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Tue Jun 30 10:46:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 00:21:43 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

    Oh NO!
    Petz has run out of additional brain-numbing bullshit to post, so no he >keeps on posting empty space.

    No good posing to empty spaces like +rd%g
    +rd%g's cholesterol levels are too low, impacting his brain function
    --
    Now under the commie troll name
    "The Newsgroup Devil"
    +rd%g the Armchair communist
    https://youtu.be/I-aQkAzTJSs?si=nb1vHyJ7a6ImK0zt

    As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
    he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
    That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
    for mass immigration promoted by politicians
    and big business.
    He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
    then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
    how great diversity is.
    He believes he is such a radical

    Communists View the Church as a Huge, Huge Firewall
    Against What They Want to Do
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Tue Jun 30 03:01:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    |urd||g

    Oh NO!
    Petz has run out of additional brain-numbing bullshit to post, so now he
    keeps on posting empty space.

    No good posing to empty spaces like |urd||g
    |urd||g's cholesterol levels are too low, impacting his brain function

    ROTFLOL!
    That must be one of your lamest replies ever, Petz dear, in tying to
    justify your inability to respond at all to people who are critical of
    your insults on the newsgroup's sanity.

    :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P

    PS: How is your much fabled Xtian fundy theocracy monoculture plans
    championed by One Nation for OZ are coming along? I heard via the
    grapevine that it has lost some of its shiny varnish for the majority of
    the OZ electorates.
    --
    |urd||g
    Your amused newsgroup devil at your service
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  • From Oped@oped@usenet.example to aus.politics,aus.general on Tue Jun 30 13:07:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 29/6/26 12:03, Petzl wrote:



    As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
    Pauline Hanson Monoculture


    The speech is quite interesting and well worth viewing.

    In particular at the beginning she quotes some very interesting figures
    on not only immigration, but poverty in Australia.

    This is alone might explain and her rise in political significance.
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Tue Jun 30 16:29:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 13:07:58 +1000, Oped <oped@usenet.example> wrote:

    On 29/6/26 12:03, Petzl wrote:



    As far as I know it was only on the National Press Conference
    https://youtu.be/kSYatJcVELU?si=rRfE1QY-HgJ8x3RD
    Pauline Hanson Monoculture


    The speech is quite interesting and well worth viewing.

    In particular at the beginning she quotes some very interesting figures
    on not only immigration, but poverty in Australia.

    This is alone might explain and her rise in political significance.

    Trouble truth is not what the lobbyist run media are printing.
    Just realigning excerpts in ways to malign her
    --
    Petzl
    "Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists

    Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
    paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
    ThatAs the modern legislative business of parliament.
    When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
    countries we call it bribery.
    However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
    we call it lobbying.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.politics,aus.general on Tue Jun 30 19:36:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 30/06/2026 11:01 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    |urd||g

    Oh NO!
    Petz has run out of additional brain-numbing bullshit to post, so now he >>> keeps on posting empty space.

    No good posing to empty spaces like |urd||g
    |urd||g's cholesterol levels are too low, impacting his brain function

    ROTFLOL!
    That must be one of your lamest replies ever, Petz dear, in tying to
    justify your inability to respond at all to people who are critical of
    your insults on the newsgroup's sanity.

    :-P-a-a-a :-P-a-a-a :-P-a-a-a :-P-a-a :-P

    PS: How is your much fabled Xtian fundy theocracy monoculture plans championed by One Nation for OZ are coming along? I heard via the
    grapevine that it has lost some of its shiny varnish for the majority of
    the OZ electorates.

    Yeah, I was watching ABC 24 today and they showed a Poll result which
    had Labor at about 40%, ON at about 22% and coalition at about 15% (or something like that).

    So better for Labor, not so good for Coalition!!
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jul 1 07:49:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 19:36:42 +1000, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 30/06/2026 11:01 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    +rd%g

    Oh NO!
    Petz has run out of additional brain-numbing bullshit to post, so now he >>>> keeps on posting empty space.

    No good posing to empty spaces like +rd%g
    +rd%g's cholesterol levels are too low, impacting his brain function

    ROTFLOL!
    That must be one of your lamest replies ever, Petz dear, in tying to
    justify your inability to respond at all to people who are critical of
    your insults on the newsgroup's sanity.

    :-Paaa :-Paaa :-Paaa :-Paa :-P

    PS: How is your much fabled Xtian fundy theocracy monoculture plans
    championed by One Nation for OZ are coming along? I heard via the
    grapevine that it has lost some of its shiny varnish for the majority of
    the OZ electorates.

    Yeah, I was watching ABC 24 today and they showed a Poll result which
    had Labor at about 40%, ON at about 22% and coalition at about 15% (or >something like that).

    So better for Labor, not so good for Coalition!!

    So a ABC poll would not be biased, part of us being a Monoculture is
    for the ABC to rely on it's own funding?
    But then you can't figure why a Bus takes longer in getting me home!

    The people turning to One Nation are doing so because theyAve seen
    what the Coalition and Labor did. They watched an elite political
    class impose ruinous rules and regulations upon our country. They
    endured economic and cultural experiments conducted by a protected
    political species. They voted but werenAt heard.
    Monoculture Australian voters are seeing these absolute Willards have
    taken Australian fortunes and turned them into a trillion-dollar debt.
    TheyAve converted Australia from an energy supersource into a climate
    panic zone where families canAt pay power bills.
    TheyAve erased our geographic and political independence by shackling
    us to the unelected and unaccountable UN.

    <https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/one-nation-records-historic-result-in-latest-poll-since-hansons-monoculture-call-despite-albanese-rejecting-it-as-nonsense/news-story/3ecdbeb123199de72a7c12b4fb9efbd2>
    https://tinyurl.com/mryt98h9
    Australians inclined to support One Nation have seen all of this.
    They have seen, during the past 20 years, how everything bad about
    Australia is caused by governments.

    Now, of course, youAre hearing from the major parties and apologists
    for mainstream politics that One Nation isnAt ready for government.
    --
    Petzl
    "Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists

    Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
    paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
    ThatAs the modern legislative business of parliament.

    When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
    countries we call it bribery.
    However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
    we call it lobbying.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jul 1 08:58:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
    The Newsgroup Devil wrote
    How is your much fabled Xtian fundy theocracy monoculture plans
    championed by One Nation for OZ are coming along? I heard via the
    grapevine that it has lost some of its shiny varnish for the majority >>> of the OZ electorates.
    Yeah, I was watching ABC 24 today and they showed a Poll result which>> had Labor at about 40%, ON at about 22% and coalition at about 15% (or
    something like that).
    So better for Labor, not so good for Coalition!!
    So a ABC poll would not be biased,
    The ABC doesn't do polls, it was reporting someone else's poll
    part of us being a Monoculture is forthe ABC to rely on it's own > funding?
    Nothing whatever to do with monoculture
    The people turning to One Nation are doing so because theyrCOve seen
    what the Coalition and Labor did.
    Nope, they have actually been stupid enough
    to be fooled by Hanson's mindless bullshit and
    given that she hasn't taken a labor seat for more
    than 30 years, and didn't hold any of those for
    more than a couple of years, well before the
    next state election, that obviously had NOTHING
    to do with federal labor and was at most about
    the Beatie labor govt in Qld at that time
    They watched an elite political class
    We don't have anything even remotely like that
    impose ruinous rules and regulations upon our country.
    Nothing ruinous about any of those which
    has happened under the Albo govt which is
    when one notion surged in the useless polls
    They endured economic and cultural experimentsconducted by a > protected political species.
    Mindless bullshit given what happened to Dutton
    and the coalition in the most recent federal election
    They voted but werenrCOt heard.
    Mindless bullshit given what happened to Dutton
    and the coalition in the most recent federal election
    Monoculture Australian voters
    There has never been anything even remotely like
    that in this country even when the white australia
    policy was all the rage given jews, roman catholics
    and protestants
    are seeing these absolute Willards
    Whatever that shit is about
    have taken Australian fortunes and turned them into a trillion-dollar > debt.
    More mindless bullshit given that the coalition actually
    had some federal govt years with no federal debt
    TheyrCOve converted Australia from an energy supersource
    It was never that
    into a climate panic zone where families canrCOt pay power bills.
    There were always some that couldnt pay their power
    bills because they were financially incompetant and
    chose to spend what income they had one illegal
    drugs and cigarettes instead of their bills
    TheyrCOve erased our geographic and political independence
    Complete and utter mindless bullshit
    by shackling us to the unelected and unaccountable UN.
    Complete and utter mindless bullshit
    <https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/one-nation-records-historic-result-in-latest-poll-since-hansons-monoculture-call-despite-albanese-rejecting-it-as-nonsense/news-story/3ecdbeb123199de72a7c12b4fb9efbd2>
    https://tinyurl.com/mryt98h9
    Pity about what this says about polls https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3emvezsmjn0kxrom0ehds/IMG_3651.JPG?rlkey=4oop4xxgvmbvenmewz096h6vs&dl=0
    Australians inclined to support One Nation have seen all of this.
    They have seen, during the past 20 years, how everything bad about
    Australia is caused by governments.
    More completely mindless bullshit with covid alone
    Now, of course, yourCOre hearing from the major parties and apologists
    for mainstream politics that One Nation isnrCOt ready for government.
    And Hanson has just proved that, yet again
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jul 1 01:13:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/


    Daniel70 >> |urd||g>>> Petz>>>> |urd||g>>>>>>>>> Oh NO!>>>>> Petz has run out of
    additional brain-numbing bullshit to post, so now he>>>>> keeps on
    posting empty space.>>>>>>>>> No good posing to empty spaces like
    |urd||g>>>> |urd||g's cholesterol levels are too low, impacting his brain function>>>>>> ROTFLOL!>>> That must be one of your lamest replies ever,
    Petz dear, in tying to>>> justify your inability to respond at all to
    people who are critical of>>> your insults on the newsgroup's sanity.

    PS: How is your much fabled Xtian fundy theocracy monoculture plans
    championed by One Nation for OZ are coming along? I heard via the
    grapevine that it has lost some of its shiny varnish for the majority of >>> the OZ electorates.

    Yeah, I was watching ABC 24 today and they showed a Poll result which
    had Labor at about 40%, ON at about 22% and coalition at about 15% (or
    something like that).

    So better for Labor, not so good for Coalition!!

    So a ABC poll would not be biased,

    So when ABC brings the news about a poll result, you assume it was
    conducted by the ABC???
    Absolute moron! There was NO ABC poll!

    part of us being a Monoculture is for the ABC to rely on it's own funding?

    Speak for your fundamentalist idiot self, Petz dear! The bulk of the Australian population today is NOT a monoculture (thank goodness for
    that) so suck it up sunshine!

    But then you can't figure why a Bus takes longer in getting me home!

    When are you back from your Siberian excursion Petz dear?
    Maybe you should consider delaying your return. Your fish&chips auntie's fascist monocultural theocracy does not seem to be progressing with the lightening speed as it was predicted by Murdoch and Sky News.

    The people turning to One Nation are doing so because

    ...either they are absolutely gullible and fully brain-washed or they
    are simply raging racist sociopath idiots like you for instance!

    theyrCOve seen
    what the Coalition and Labor did.

    Yeah, The majority of voters have clearly seen what the Coalition have
    been doing over the past couple of decades and hence decided to stick
    with Labor instead.

    If you have problems with democratic majorities please feel free to
    arrange a permanent resident status in theocratic-monoculture shithole
    country somewhere near your current location, Petz dear!

    They watched an elite political
    class impose ruinous rules and regulations upon our country.

    That is your beloved capitalism at work. Suck it up sunshine.

    /heavy duty bullshit snipper activated/

    skynews ...

    ...the trademark propaganda outlet for alt-right grifting, scamming and
    lying for benefit of the power obsessed upper-class.
    NEXT!

    One Nation isnrCOt ready for government.

    One Nation isn't fit to govern any decent human beings anywhere on this
    planet of ours.

    :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P
    --
    |urd||g
    Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jul 1 09:18:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2026 14:11:00 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

    What "Little Aussie Battlers"?
    We the taxpaying few,

    Mindless bullshit on the few claim

    Almost everyone pays some tax, even if its only the GST

    are aghast at the stampede to country estates,
    fishing holes, Bali, Port Douglas, etc and so forth.

    More mindless bullshit

    The roads are
    CLOGGED with the aforementioned "battlers" in their hi-end autos
    rushing to spend (on credit cards) moneys better saved for the rainy
    day fast approaching!

    More mindless bullshit on the fast approaching
    Well, something's gonna happen. Too many chiefs & not enough injuns!

    I hope Pauline introduces a departure tax,a hi-end auto tax, and a
    road-user tax on school holidays.

    Not going to happen given that she will never
    be in any position to ever introduce any tax

    Yes, that is true, but her following has put the wind up the other
    parties who will now adjust their policies accordingly.
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jul 1 01:20:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/


    Trouble truth is not what the lobbyist run media are printing.

    Bzzzzt! Lobbyists do not run the media!

    GoonCon 4 again?

    Just realigning excerpts in ways to malign her

    Keep on worshipping the fish&chips auntie till the cows come home, Petz
    dear!
    --
    |urd||g
    Your forever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jul 1 09:33:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 01:13:58 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:


    One Nation isnAt ready for government.

    One Nation isn't fit to govern any decent human beings anywhere on this >planet of ours.

    Coming from a Stalinist that's rich.
    Feeding his regime by murdering 8 million of his citizens sounds very
    much like what Albanese is doing.
    Doing the 1987 Keating thing to takeaway asset value of peoples
    houses, to house and home his mass immigration of dole receiving Isis terrorists is more important.

    To have Australia a Monoculture of course makes sense.

    Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
    Albanese Labor in 2026!

    The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
    Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest
    rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
    new construction!

    House prices fall in four capital cities as Sydney values drop nearly
    $50,000 in June this year.

    Now, of course, youAre hearing from the major parties and apologists
    for mainstream politics that One Nation isnAt ready for government.


    :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P

    --
    +rd%g
    Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service
    --
    Petzl

    Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
    major depression, and two world wars.
    Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jul 1 09:40:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 01:20:36 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/


    Trouble truth is not what the lobbyist run media are printing.

    Bzzzzt! Lobbyists do not run the media!

    GoonCon 4 again?

    Just realigning excerpts in ways to malign her

    Keep on worshipping the fish&chips auntie till the cows come home, Petz >dear!

    The Penrith area is about to become a flood zone again already you
    property is down $100,000 and dropping, better start looking for a
    bridge to live under.
    You will be voting for the fish&chips auntie there's become no
    choice.
    --
    Petzl
    "Our" Media and Major parties are run,
    owned and operated by lobbyists.

    Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
    paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
    ThatAs the modern legislative business of parliament.

    When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
    countries we call it bribery.
    However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
    we call it lobbying.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jul 1 10:28:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

    let slip she doesn't really care about little Aussie battlers

    What "Little Aussie Battlers"?

    We the taxpaying few,

    Mindless bullshit on the few claim

    Almost everyone pays some tax, even if its only the GST

    are aghast at the stampede to country estates,
    fishing holes, Bali, Port Douglas, etc and so forth.

    More mindless bullshit

    The roads are
    CLOGGED with the aforementioned "battlers" in their hi-end autos
    rushing to spend (on credit cards) moneys better saved for the rainy
    day fast approaching!

    More mindless bullshit on the fast approaching

    Well, something's gonna happen.

    Yep, we carry on regardless and do fine, as always

    Too many chiefs & not enough injuns!

    More mindless bullshit

    I hope Pauline introduces a departure tax,a hi-end auto tax, and a
    road-user tax on school holidays.

    Not going to happen given that she will never
    be in any position to ever introduce any tax

    Yes, that is true, but her following has put the wind up the other parties

    Bullshit it has

    who will now adjust their policies accordingly.

    Hasn't happened with the most recent budget

    Have fun listing even a single thing that is due to Hanson

    Hasn't even happened with even a single coalition or green policy either
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jul 1 10:49:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote
    One Nation isnrCOt ready for government.
    One Nation isn't fit to govern any decent human beings anywhere on this
    planet of ours.
    Coming from a Stalinist that's rich.
    Feeding his regime by murdering 8 million of his citizens sounds very
    much like what Albanese is doing.
    Then you need a new hearing aid or your first hearing aid
    Albo hasn't murdered anyone
    Doing the 1987 Keating thing to takeaway asset value of peoples
    houses,
    Albo has done nothing of the sort
    to house and home his mass immigration of dole receiving Isis
    terrorists is more important.
    There has been no mass immigration of dole receiving Isis terrorists
    To have Australia a Monoculture of course makes sense.
    Not even possible and never has been given the abos
    Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
    Albanese Labor in 2026!
    More mindless bullshit, as always from you
    Hawke was the PM in 1987 and Albo isn't doing the
    income tax rate changes that happened then, or
    changing the handouts to familys that they did then
    The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
    There was no disaster then
    Labor under Paul Keating in 1987,
    Keating was never the labor 'leader' then
    properties crashing, bank interest rates hitting 20%.
    That came later
    rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket,
    More mindless bullshit
    little new construction!
    More mindless bullshit
    House prices fall in four capital cities as Sydney values drop nearly
    $50,000 in June this year.
    Which is sweet fuck all in the $1M value of
    most houses and $500K of most unit prices
    Now, of course, yourCOre hearing from the major parties and apologists
    for mainstream politics that One Nation isnrCOt ready for government.
    Of course it isn't. She hasn't proposed a damned thing
    that will do anything about what she howls about
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jul 1 10:57:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    Trouble truth is not what the lobbyist run media are printing.

    Bzzzzt! Lobbyists do not run the media!

    He's right, for once

    GoonCon 4 again?

    Just realigning excerpts in ways to malign her

    Keep on worshipping the fish&chips auntie till the cows come home, Petz
    dear!

    The Penrith area is about to become a flood zone again

    Bullshit

    already you property is down $100,000 and dropping,

    Bullshit
    https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ae1983ed-31df-447b-88d7-5b5d88eaf615

    better start looking for a bridge to live under.

    No need to do that even if the property value does drop and it isnt doing that

    You will be voting for the fish&chips auntie there's become no
    choice.

    She won't be the candidate in his seat, fool
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jul 1 19:49:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 1/07/2026 9:40 am, Petzl wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 01:20:36 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/


    Trouble truth is not what the lobbyist run media are printing.

    Bzzzzt! Lobbyists do not run the media!

    GoonCon 4 again?

    Just realigning excerpts in ways to malign her

    Keep on worshipping the fish&chips auntie till the cows come home, Petz
    dear!

    The Penrith area is about to become a flood zone again already you
    property is down $100,000 and dropping, better start looking for a
    bridge to live under.

    Oh!! Oh!! Oh!! Petzl, can I appoint YOU as my local Property agent
    advising me of Penrith Properties I should BUY?? .... I mean, *IF*
    prices *ARE* falling!!

    Oh!! No, WAIT!! I mean Penrith *IS* about 35-40 km from Parramatta!!

    Bugger that!!
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jul 1 21:23:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 19:49:29 +1000, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Keep on worshipping the fish&chips auntie till the cows come home, Petz
    dear!

    The Penrith area is about to become a flood zone again already you
    property is down $100,000 and dropping, better start looking for a
    bridge to live under.

    Oh!! Oh!! Oh!! Petzl, can I appoint YOU as my local Property agent
    advising me of Penrith Properties I should BUY?? .... I mean, *IF*
    prices *ARE* falling!!

    You have a average price drop but areas like Parramatta are likey to
    have differnt sales figures to that of Penrith.
    Just google "real estate penrith area sales history"
    AI will show belated results


    Oh!! No, WAIT!! I mean Penrith *IS* about 35-40 km from Parramatta!!

    They have a Metro service to St Marys which should become a large
    employment area
    https://www.sydneymetro.info/westernsydneyairportline

    Bugger that!!
    Take care with a spooked property market,
    Agents are saying sales slow
    I asked
    With Capital gains Tax removal are Agents are saying sales slow https://share.google/aimode/OpCP4rz8pT0RStUr2
    Yes, real estate agents and industry analysts are attributing slow
    sales and crashing auction clearance rates to the government's
    controversial tax reforms.
    The changes, which passed into law following the Federal Budget, have
    caused buyer uncertainty, a severe drop in investor activity, and
    plummeting property values.
    The core issues agents are observing in the market:
    The "Tax Ball and Chain": Real estate bodies note that ending the 50%
    capital gains tax discount and restricting negative gearing on
    established homes have significantly chilled market turnover.
    Plummeting Clearances:
    Agents report that auction clearance rates in major cities have
    dropped to historic lows (some nearing Global Financial Crisis levels)
    as investors and buyers flee the market.
    Price Drops: Analysts at Prop Track and Cotality have recorded drops
    in home valuesumost notably in Sydney and Melbourneupartially driven
    by this sudden shift in buyer sentiment.Industry Perspective and
    Resources:
    Mixed Opinions on Impact:
    While agents cite falling clearance rates and buyer panic, some
    economists argue that the policy is designed to cool overheated
    property cycles and boost opportunities for first-home buyers.
    --
    Petzl

    Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
    major depression, and two world wars.
    Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jul 2 01:05:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/


    |urd||g
    Petz
    One Nation isnrCOt ready for government.

    One Nation isn't fit to govern any decent human beings anywhere on this
    planet of ours.

    Coming from a Stalinist that's rich.

    Given the countless number of times I have spoken up against Stalinism
    in this very newsgroup your wilful lack of comprehension is now proven
    with absolute certainty.

    But hey, everyone here immediately recognises this as your frustrated
    attempt at changing the subject of debate which your are currently
    losing quite badly! Yes, this is despite yet another attack dump against
    what you allege communism is in your illiterate confused mind as some
    sort of debate winning knock-out punch against me.

    Alas this old, tried and failed tactic of yours ain't working no more!
    :-P :-P :-P :-P

    Nor is your fully fascist theocratic monoculture in OZ anywhere near
    becoming a reality given the will of the majority of voters, despite all
    your alcohol drenched wet dreams about it.

    To have Australia a Monoculture of course makes sense.

    YAWN!
    Back to your GoonBags, Petz dear!

    Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
    Albanese Labor in 2026!

    Bullshit!

    The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
    Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest
    rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
    new construction!

    Bullshit!


    House prices fall in four capital cities as Sydney values drop nearly
    $50,000 in June this year.

    Bullshit!


    Now, of course, yourCOre hearing from the major parties and apologists
    for mainstream politics that One Nation isnrCOt ready for government.

    All sane human beings reject the idea of a fish&chips aunty led
    nightmare government.

    Suck it up Petz dear!
    Look at the upside: No one would give a damn if you permanently fucked
    off from OZ to a fascist theocracy loving alt-right dystopia of you own choosing. Bye-bye!

    :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P
    --
    |urd||g
    Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jul 2 09:58:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 01:05:24 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

    Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
    Albanese Labor in 2026!

    Bullshit!

    The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
    Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest
    rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
    new construction!

    Bullshit!

    I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
    elevator.

    One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.

    Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions,
    one major depression, and two world wars.
    Doubt if it will survive a Albanese Labor Government.


    In the late 1980s (Hawke Labor), property was hammered by soaring
    interest rates, recession, tight credit, rising rents, and weak new construction.
    spooked property market,

    Agents are saying sales slow
    I asked
    With Capital gains Tax removal are Agents are saying sales slow https://share.google/aimode/OpCP4rz8pT0RStUr2
    Yes, real estate agents and industry analysts are attributing slow
    sales and crashing auction clearance rates to the government's
    controversial tax reforms.
    The changes, which passed into law following the Federal Budget, have
    caused buyer uncertainty, a severe drop in investor activity, and
    plummeting property values.
    The core issues agents are observing in the market:
    The "Tax Ball and Chain": Real estate bodies note that ending the 50%
    capital gains tax discount and restricting negative gearing on
    established homes have significantly chilled market turnover.
    Plummeting Clearances:
    Agents report that auction clearance rates in major cities have
    dropped to historic lows (some nearing Global Financial Crisis levels)
    as investors and buyers flee the market.
    Price Drops: Analysts at Prop Track and Cotality have recorded drops
    in home valuesumost notably in Sydney and Melbourneupartially driven
    by this sudden shift in buyer sentiment.Industry Perspective and
    Resources:
    Mixed Opinions on Impact:
    While agents cite falling clearance rates and buyer panic, some
    economists argue that the policy is designed to cool overheated
    property cycles and boost opportunities for first-home buyers.
    --
    Now under the commie troll name
    "The Newsgroup Devil"
    +rd%g the Armchair communist
    https://youtu.be/I-aQkAzTJSs?si=nb1vHyJ7a6ImK0zt

    As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
    he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
    That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
    for mass immigration promoted by politicians
    and big business.
    He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
    then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
    how great diversity is.
    He believes he is such a radical

    Communists View the Church as a Huge, Huge Firewall
    Against What They Want to Do
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jul 2 10:48:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
    Albanese Labor in 2026!
    Bullshit with the 'recession we had to have'
    Bullshit!

    The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
    Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest>>> rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
    new construction!
    Bullshit!
    I know is that once markets get spooked,
    That hasn't happened
    prices can fall like an elevator.
    That has never happened with property prices in Sydney or Melburg
    One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.
    Even more mindless bullshit given that the bank of
    mum and dad doesn't depend on property prices
    Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions,
    one major depression, and two world wars.
    Doubt if it will survive a Albanese Labor Government.
    Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something
    In the late 1980s (Hawke Labor), property was hammered by soaring
    interest rates, recession, tight credit, rising rents, and weak new construction.
    spooked property market,
    But didn't see property prices fall like an elevator.
    Agents are saying sales slow
    That always happens when interest rates increase
    and that was not done by the govt, that was done
    by the reserve bank
    I asked
    With Capital gains Tax removal are Agents are saying sales slow https://share.google/aimode/OpCP4rz8pT0RStUr2
    Yes, real estate agents and industry analysts are attributing slow
    sales and crashing auction clearance rates to the government's
    controversial tax reforms.
    And nothing those clowns ever say is reality
    The changes, which passed into law following the Federal Budget, have
    caused buyer uncertainty,
    Hardly surpising given that quite a bit of the detail with
    widows and trust detail still hasn't been fully spelt out
    a severe drop in investor activity,
    Hardly surpising given that negative gearing is
    no longer available on newly purchased property
    and plummeting property values.
    That hasn't happened. So much for your steaming turd of an AI
    The core issues agents are observing in the market:
    The "Tax Ball and Chain": Real estate bodies
    Wota stunningly impeccible source
    Those buggers are always trying to boost the market
    note that ending the 50% capital gains tax discount
    And replacing it with a stupidly complicated way of
    calculating real capital gain, and imposing a 30%
    tax rate even for those whose income is below the
    rate at which they need to pay any income tax at all
    and eliminating the averaging over a number of years
    and restricting negative gearing on establishedhomes have > significantly chilled market turnover.
    And so has the increased interest rates
    Plummeting Clearances:
    There has been no plummeting, again, your stupid AI
    Agents report that auction clearance rates in major cities have
    dropped to historic lows (some nearing Global Financial Crisis levels)> as investors and buyers flee the market.
    Even sillier on the buyers claim
    Price Drops: Analysts at Prop Track and Cotality have recorded drops
    in home valuesrComost notably in Sydney and MelbournerCo
    By sweet fuck all
    partially driven
    by this sudden shift in buyer sentiment.Industry Perspective and
    Resources:
    Mixed Opinions on Impact:
    While agents cite falling clearance rates and buyer panic, some
    economists argue that the policy is designed to cool overheated
    property cycles and boost opportunities for first-home buyers.
    And that is clearly what has happened
    And you fucked AI doesn't even mention interest rates
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jul 2 03:09:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    |urd||g

    Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
    Albanese Labor in 2026!

    Bullshit!

    The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
    Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest
    rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
    new construction!

    Bullshit!

    I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
    elevator.

    Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and
    political predictions are worth, Petz dear!

    Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual
    high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits
    hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets
    their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times
    may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their gravy-train
    run.

    But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they
    attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of delaying
    the inevitable.

    One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.

    ?????
    Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?

    Hey Petz, my wife and I have made sure that ain't going to be the case
    for my kids. They will get everything we own! So there you go... :-P

    Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions,
    one major depression, and two world wars.

    In fact, it will definitely survive the fish&chips auntie generated
    shitstorm, just as it will survive all your inebriated alt-right
    theocracy monoculture tantrums in cyberspace.

    And your point was, in case you thought to have one???

    Doubt if it will survive a Albanese Labor Government.

    Bullshit.
    In fact, if Albo would grow a little bit more spine and implemented even
    more measures to stop the country's wealth being all sucked up by the corporate upperclass Labor could make future generations' lives so much easier!

    /bucket loads of Petz-Bullshit was flushed as a generous free service
    provided by your diligent newsgroup devil to all sane Usenetizens
    visiting this newsgroup/
    --
    |urd||g
    Your overworked newsgroup devil at your service
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jul 2 20:25:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 2/07/2026 9:05 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/


    |urd||g
    Petz
    One Nation isnrCOt ready for government.

    One Nation isn't fit to govern any decent human beings anywhere on this
    planet of ours.

    Coming from a Stalinist that's rich.

    Given the countless number of times I have spoken up against Stalinism
    in this very newsgroup your wilful lack of comprehension is now proven
    with absolute certainty.

    But hey, everyone here immediately recognises this as your frustrated attempt at changing the subject of debate which your are currently
    losing quite badly! Yes, this is despite yet another attack dump against what you allege communism is in your illiterate confused mind as some
    sort of debate winning knock-out punch against me.

    Alas this old, tried and failed tactic of yours ain't working no more!
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a :-P-a-a-a :-P-a-a-a :-P-a-a-a :-P

    Nor is your fully fascist theocratic monoculture in OZ anywhere near becoming a reality given the will of the majority of voters, despite all your alcohol drenched wet dreams about it.

    To have Australia a Monoculture of course makes sense.

    YAWN!
    Back to your GoonBags, Petz dear!

    No, we should ALL be AUSTRALIANS, first and foremost.

    Doesn't matter if our ancestors came out here 20,000 years ago, 200
    years ago or 20 months ago.

    'We or our ancestors' came here for a better life so 'we' should be
    trying to make this life HERE as *GOOD* as it can possibly be! (and
    forgot about what is now happening 'over there'!!
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jul 2 21:55:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 2/07/2026 11:09 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    |urd||g

    Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
    Albanese Labor in 2026!

    I suppose Paul WAS Treasurer .... so might have had some impact on the markets.

    Bullshit!

    The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
    Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest
    rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little
    new construction!

    Bullshit!

    I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
    elevator.

    Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and
    political predictions are worth, Petz dear!

    Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual
    high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits
    hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets
    their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times
    may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their gravy-train run.

    But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of delaying
    the inevitable.

    One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.

    ?????
    Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?

    No, I'm thing Petzl means that the price on Mum and Dad's House (i.e.
    the Family Home) has fallen sooooo much that Mum and Dad will not be
    able to back the Kids when they want to buy property.

    A reasonable thought. Hmmm! Did I just type that??
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jul 2 21:55:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 20:25:11 +1000, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:


    YAWN!
    Back to your GoonBags, Petz dear!

    No, we should ALL be AUSTRALIANS, first and foremost.

    Doesn't matter if our ancestors came out here 20,000 years ago, 200
    years ago or 20 months ago.

    'We or our ancestors' came here for a better life so 'we' should be
    trying to make this life HERE as *GOOD* as it can possibly be! (and
    forgot about what is now happening 'over there'!!
    --
    Daniel70

    Now we are being censored from being a Monoculture?
    Seems only OK to watch n TV in the US?
    Too violent for me! https://x.com/RightSide_Uk/status/2071110967476285442/video/1
    Citizen.Vigilante.2026
    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/citizen_vigilante
    94-95% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
    Highest score of 2026.
    --
    Petzl

    oThe Australian dream is hard but itAs obtainable and you have to do
    the work.
    You have to roll your sleeves up and sacrifice.o
    But with socialism oitAs awhy do I have to do that when I can just
    take it from them?A

    ThereAs this illusion that quality of life is more important than work
    ethic.

    aI want it nowA and one groupAs telling them aYou donAt have to be
    educated, all you have to do is blame everything on somebody else and
    theyAll support you.A

    ItAs aWhy should I work when youAre saying I donAt have to!A
    There are more people willing to take a free lunch than go out and
    build the sandwich.

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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jul 2 22:12:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 21:55:12 +1000, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
    elevator.

    Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and
    political predictions are worth, Petz dear!

    Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual
    high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits
    hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets
    their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times
    may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their gravy-train
    run.

    But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they
    attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of delaying
    the inevitable.

    One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.

    ?????
    Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?

    No, I'm thinking Petzl means that the price on Mum and Dad's House (i.e.
    the Family Home) has fallen sooooo much that Mum and Dad will not be
    able to back the Kids when they want to buy property.

    A reasonable thought. Hmmm! Did I just type that??
    --
    Daniel70

    Being retired my money is in savings
    As soon as the Interest rates go above 10% like they did with
    treasurer Keating, will be judging when to sink my funds in to 10 year
    bank term interest.

    All I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
    elevator.
    In the late 1980s (Hawke Labor), property was hammered by soaring
    interest rates, recession, tight credit, rising rents, and weak new construction.

    This Alabanese repeat og Keating only started last month! <https://www.skynews.com.au/business/finance/housing-market-slump-driven-by-labors-capital-gains-tax-negative-gearing-changes-could-slow-down-total-economy/news-story/e09a69d40ca6d1367b0d78d391c36867>
    https://tinyurl.com/bdezawuj
    Housing market slump driven by LaborAs capital gains tax, negative
    gearing changes could 'slow down' total economy
    Macquarie bank analyst Victor German estimated that new lending flows
    for owner occupiers are down between 10 to 20 per cent, while new
    investors are down as much as 50 per cent.
    --
    Petzl

    Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
    major depression, and two world wars.
    Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jul 2 22:27:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 2/07/2026 10:12 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 21:55:12 +1000, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
    elevator.

    Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and
    political predictions are worth, Petz dear!

    Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual
    high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits
    hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets
    their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times
    may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their gravy-train >>> run.

    But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they
    attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of delaying
    the inevitable.

    One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.

    ?????
    Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?

    No, I'm thinking Petzl means that the price on Mum and Dad's House (i.e.
    the Family Home) has fallen sooooo much that Mum and Dad will not be
    able to back the Kids when they want to buy property.

    A reasonable thought. Hmmm! Did I just type that??

    Being retired my money is in savings

    Own my own Home, Car, etc.

    One week I get about $800 CommSuper per fortnight, the alternate week I
    get about $800 Old Age Pension per fortnight.

    So what I had accumulated in *MY* Super over the years (about $150,000)
    has become MY Monopoly Money .... well, after I had loaned about $50,000 (total) to Relatives. I'm using it to *PLAY* on the Stock Market myself
    .... making about $35,000 over the past three years or so.

    As soon as the Interest rates go above 10% like they did with
    treasurer Keating, will be judging when to sink my funds in to 10 year
    bank term interest.

    ... and I'll be making MORE money myself, too.

    All I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an elevator.

    Who cares?? It's Monopoly Money.

    In the late 1980s (Hawke Labor), property was hammered by soaring
    interest rates, recession, tight credit, rising rents, and weak new construction.

    Who cares??

    This Alabanese repeat og Keating only started last month! <https://www.skynews.com.au/business/finance/housing-market-slump-driven-by-labors-capital-gains-tax-negative-gearing-changes-could-slow-down-total-economy/news-story/e09a69d40ca6d1367b0d78d391c36867>
    https://tinyurl.com/bdezawuj
    Housing market slump driven by LaborrCOs capital gains tax, negative
    gearing changes could 'slow down' total economy

    Who cares??

    Macquarie bank analyst Victor German estimated that new lending flows
    for owner occupiers are down between 10 to 20 per cent, while new
    investors are down as much as 50 per cent.

    Who cares??
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Jul 3 02:17:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Thu, 02 Jul 2026 21:55:12 +1000, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 2/07/2026 11:09 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    +rd%g

    Everything Paul Keating Labor did in 1987 is near being repeated by
    Albanese Labor in 2026!

    I suppose Paul WAS Treasurer .... so might have had some impact on the > markets.

    Bullshit!

    The rest of this repeated disaster is now happening again?
    Labor under Paul Keating in 1987, properties crashing, bank interest >>>>> rates hitting 20%. rentals became scarce and rents sky rocket, little >>>>> new construction!

    Bullshit!

    I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
    elevator.
    Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and >> political predictions are worth, Petz dear!
    Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual >> high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits >> hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets >> their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times >> may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their >> gravy-train run.
    But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they >> attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of delaying >> the inevitable.

    One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.
    ?????
    Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?

    No, I'm thing Petzl means that the price on Mum and Dad's House (i.e. > the Family Home) has fallen sooooo much that Mum and Dad will not be > able to back the Kids when they want to buy property.
    House prices haven't dropped much and won't
    A reasonable thought. Hmmm! Did I just type that??
    Nope, that was the wacky weed talking, boy :(
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Jul 3 02:24:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
    I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
    elevator.
    Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and
    political predictions are worth, Petz dear!
    Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual
    high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits
    hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets
    their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times
    may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their >>> gravy-train run.
    But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they
    attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of delaying
    the inevitable.
    One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.
    ?????
    Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?
    No, I'm thinking Petzl means that the price on Mum and Dad's House (i.e.
    the Family Home) has fallen sooooo much that Mum and Dad will not be
    able to back the Kids when they want to buy property.
    A reasonable thought. Hmmm! Did I just type that??
    Being retired my money is in savings
    Most of mine is in investments and super
    As soon as the Interest rates go above 10%
    Not going to happen
    like they did with
    treasurer Keating, will be judging when to sink my funds in to 10 year> bank term interest.
    All I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an elevator.
    That has never happened with property prices in out lifetimes
    In the late 1980s (Hawke Labor), property was hammered by soaring
    interest rates, recession, tight credit, rising rents, and weak new construction.
    This Alabanese repeat og Keating only started last month!
    Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasys
    <https://www.skynews.com.au/business/finance/housing-market-slump-driven-by-labors-capital-gains-tax-negative-gearing-changes-could-slow-down-total-economy/news-story/e09a69d40ca6d1367b0d78d391c36867>
    https://tinyurl.com/bdezawuj
    Housing market slump driven by LaborrCOs capital gains tax, negative
    gearing changes could 'slow down' total economy
    That is nothing even remotely like fall like an elevator.
    And that fool doesn't even mention interest rates
    Macquarie bank analyst Victor German estimated that new lending flows
    for owner occupiers are down between 10 to 20 per cent,
    That is nothing even remotely like fall like an elevator.
    while new investors are down as much as 50 per cent.
    Which isn't PROPERTY PRICES, fuckwit
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Jul 3 02:29:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
    Petzl wrote
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
    I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
    elevator.
    Zero, zilch, nort, nada! This is exactly what your economic and
    political predictions are worth, Petz dear!
    Having said that, it is now becoming a certainty that those usual
    high-fling speculators, grifters and scammers, all those profits
    hoarding financial ghouls who so far looked upon the property markets
    their easy-peasy cash cow now suddenly realising that their good times >>>> may be over thanks to Labor finally putting an stop to their >>>> gravy-train run.
    But naturally, before they are leaving for other hunting grounds they
    attempt to put on a last ditch nasty scare campaign in hope of >>>> delaying the inevitable.
    One's children can now say goodbye to the bank of mum and dad.
    ?????
    Do you mean they are somehow stopped to inherit anything? By who?
    No, I'm thinking Petzl means that the price on Mum and Dad's House >>> (i.e.
    the Family Home) has fallen sooooo much that Mum and Dad will not be>>> able to back the Kids when they want to buy property.
    A reasonable thought. Hmmm! Did I just type that??
    Being retired my money is in savings
    Own my own Home, Car, etc.
    Me too, don't owe anyone anything
    One week I get about $800 CommSuper per fortnight,
    I don't have a super pension, I just leave it in there
    the alternate week I get about $800 Old Age Pension per fortnight.
    I haven't bothered to do the paperwork and
    have been able to do that for 15 fucking years
    So what I had accumulated in *MY* Super over the years (about $150,000) > has become MY Monopoly Money .... well, after I had loaned about $50,000 > (total) to Relatives. I'm using it to *PLAY* on the Stock Market myself > .... making about $35,000 over the past three years or so.
    Yeah. I still have plenty in the stock market
    As soon as the Interest rates go above 10% like they did with
    treasurer Keating, will be judging when to sink my funds in to 10 year
    bank term interest.
    ... and I'll be making MORE money myself, too.
    All I know is that once markets get spooked, prices can fall like an
    elevator.
    Who cares?? It's Monopoly Money.
    In the late 1980s (Hawke Labor), property was hammered by soaring
    interest rates, recession, tight credit, rising rents, and weak new
    construction.
    Who cares??
    This Alabanese repeat og Keating only started last month!
    <https://www.skynews.com.au/business/finance/housing-market-slump-driven-by-labors-capital-gains-tax-negative-gearing-changes-could-slow-down-total-economy/news-story/e09a69d40ca6d1367b0d78d391c36867>
    https://tinyurl.com/bdezawuj
    Housing market slump driven by LaborrCOs capital gains tax, negative
    gearing changes could 'slow down' total economy
    Who cares??
    Macquarie bank analyst Victor German estimated that new lending flows>> for owner occupiers are down between 10 to 20 per cent, while new
    investors are down as much as 50 per cent.
    Who cares??
    Why are you such a careless person, boy ?
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Jul 3 01:49:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Daniel70 wrote:
    On 2/07/2026 9:05 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/


    |urd||g
    Petz
    One Nation isnrCOt ready for government.

    One Nation isn't fit to govern any decent human beings anywhere on this >>>> planet of ours.

    Coming from a Stalinist that's rich.

    Given the countless number of times I have spoken up against Stalinism
    in this very newsgroup your wilful lack of comprehension is now proven
    with absolute certainty.

    But hey, everyone here immediately recognises this as your frustrated
    attempt at changing the subject of debate which your are currently
    losing quite badly! Yes, this is despite yet another attack dump
    against what you allege communism is in your illiterate confused mind
    as some sort of debate winning knock-out punch against me.

    Alas this old, tried and failed tactic of yours ain't working no more!
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a :-P-a-a-a :-P-a-a-a :-P-a-a-a :-P

    Nor is your fully fascist theocratic monoculture in OZ anywhere near
    becoming a reality given the will of the majority of voters, despite
    all your alcohol drenched wet dreams about it.

    To have Australia a Monoculture of course makes sense.

    YAWN!
    Back to your GoonBags, Petz dear!

    No, we should ALL be AUSTRALIANS, first and foremost.

    We already are!

    This is some sort of from seppo land imported nonsense to OZ
    emphasising where people came from.

    Afro-American, Italian-American, Latino-American,Asian-American, etc...etc...etc.
    That is not a good recipe for creating good social cohesion. Just look
    at the mess septics find themselves in currently.

    So let us not make that same mistake here.


    Doesn't matter if our ancestors came out here 20,000 years ago, 200
    years ago or 20 months ago.


    We all live in OZ, so of course, we have to find a way to work together
    towards maintaining a society that provides the basic creature comfort
    to everyone living here regardless of skin melanin content, of religious/non-religious affiliations and of differing ancestral cultural heritage.

    That concept is what functioning social cohesion means, not any sort of
    forced monoculture that has different meaning for each power hungry
    loudly screaming extremist group.

    Alas:
    Social Cohesion and "Monoculture" (rao White Xtian Nationalists) are two different cattle of fish.

    That is the baseline! But of course, we as occupants of this continent
    should always remember that we are still all members of the human race
    and understand the need for making the whole world a place fit for
    dignified human existence for everyone.

    'We or our ancestors' came here for a better life so 'we' should be
    trying to make this life HERE as *GOOD* as it can possibly be! (and
    forgot about what is now happening 'over there'!!

    That is already the case for almost all migrants, otherwise why would
    they have gone through all the hardship getting here. It is sadly a
    popular pastime for some to spout nonsense calling immigration to
    Australia a child's play.
    It takes a lot of effort getting through mountains of bureaucratic
    hurdles, taking on a significant financial burden paying fees,
    dissolving existing household, settling all outstanding obligations,
    packing up your belongings, leaving friends and family behind and moving
    into the uncertainties of having to start over everything from scratch
    at your destination.
    I have done that a number of times during my life and can tell you that
    this sort of thing takes its a nasty toll on one both physically and
    mentally.

    And just imagine how much worse this can be for those who are fleeing
    from a warzone, escaping persecution and/or outright genocide!

    That is exactly why I simply can't stand hearing all the uninformed
    rubbish some idiots spew about immigration and immigrants.
    They clearly have not experienced it themselves.

    So in summary: fuck all who are selling this hate and racism inspired "monoculture" rhetoric!
    They don't belong here! In fact, they don't even belong to the human
    race any more.
    Hey Elon, fly them all to Mars (sorry little green Martians, hell on
    Mars is about to become a reality)!
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Jul 3 02:02:21 2026
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    Daniel70
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    YAWN!
    Back to your GoonBags, Petz dear!

    No, we should ALL be AUSTRALIANS, first and foremost.

    Doesn't matter if our ancestors came out here 20,000 years ago, 200
    years ago or 20 months ago.

    'We or our ancestors' came here for a better life so 'we' should be
    trying to make this life HERE as *GOOD* as it can possibly be! (and
    forgot about what is now happening 'over there'!!

    Now we are being censored from being a Monoculture?

    Petz, how many times do you have to be told that Australia is not now
    nor ever have been a "monoculture". Stop cramming your head with Xtian
    fundy racist propaganda nonsense.

    BTW who the fuck do you think is censoring anything???
    Pointing out that something is a ridiculous nonsense is NOT censorship!

    But we definitely know what would happens if your fascist ilk ever came
    to power: Your alt-right fun would begin with book burnings galore,
    eh??? First the books then the people!

    Seems only OK to watch n TV in the US?

    Only full idiots would do that!

    Too violent for me!

    I thought you loved the violence of killing of atheists, Muslims,
    socialists and communists galore, Petz dear!

    :-P :-P :-P :-P
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