• What goes up ... must come down ... somehow ... *CRASH!*

    From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 15 03:55:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    *SpaceX is already crashing.....*

    /Jordan Shanks, 176k subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/ <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs>

    Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull waiting!
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 15 20:22:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 15/06/2026 11:55 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
    *SpaceX is already crashing.....*

    /Jordan Shanks, 176k subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/ <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs>

    Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull waiting!

    *SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the float or the actual company??
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Tue Jun 16 01:03:21 2026
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    Daniel70
    |urd||g
    *SpaceX is already crashing.....*

    /Jordan Shanks, 176k subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs>

    Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull waiting!

    *SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the float or the actual company??

    Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has only had marginal success with Star-link but anything else is basically a huge
    conjob extracting funds both from the government (long live corruption)
    and investors.

    Now that it is listed on the NASDAQ forcing even pension funds to invest
    in it hopefully it will be much harder to hide the billions of losses it
    is generating by its ridiculous venture into the AI nonsense, not to
    mention its serial disastrous space ship failures.
    Luckily, it is now under more scrutiny than it was before and after the initial speculative boost it got on the share-market some investors are already looking for the exit.
    It is only a matter of time before this massive castle built out of
    cards on lots of hot air foundation hype generated by the Elon-fan club collapses ... but hey, in the mean while it made Elon the first
    trillionaire on the planet. I wonder how long his joyride is going to last.
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.politics,aus.general on Tue Jun 16 21:30:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 16/06/2026 9:03 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:

    <Snip>

    Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has only had marginal success with Star-link but anything else is basically a huge
    conjob extracting funds both from the government (long live corruption)
    and investors.

    Now that it is listed on the NASDAQ forcing even pension funds to invest
    in it hopefully it will be much harder to hide the billions of losses it
    is generating by its ridiculous venture into the AI nonsense, not to
    mention its serial disastrous space ship failures.
    Luckily, it is now under more scrutiny than it was before and after the initial speculative boost it got on the share-market some investors are already looking for the exit.
    It is only a matter of time before this massive castle built out of
    cards on lots of hot air foundation hype generated by the Elon-fan club collapses ... but hey, in the mean while it made Elon the first
    trillionaire on the planet. I wonder how long his joyride is going to last.

    That's the thing that gets me .... The whole house of cards might well collapse but Elon will still have his Trillion Dollars!!
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From max headroom@maximusheadroom@gmx.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Tue Jun 16 19:04:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    In news:_w%XR.42914$eDa2.9668@fx06.ams4, The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> typed:

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    Daniel70
    +rd%g

    *SpaceX is already crashing.....*

    /Jordan Shanks, 176k subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs

    Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull[sic] waiting!

    *SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the float or the actual
    company??

    Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has only had marginal success with Star-link but anything else is basically a huge
    conjob extracting funds both from the government (long live corruption)
    and investors....


    From https://townhall.com/columnists/alanjosephbauer/2026/06/08/boeing-vs-spacex-n2677377

    ... Let's take a look at some of SpaceX's accomplishments:

    a.. Year of Incorporation: 2002
    b.. Number of Employees: ~22,000
    c.. Number of Vehicle Types: 3 (Falcon, Falcon Heavy, and Starship in development)
    d.. Number of Launches: Over 650 as of the end of 2025, with 165 in 2025 alone.
    e.. Number of Upright Landings: Over 600 for Falcon and Falcon Heavy
    f.. Number of Caught Rockets: 4 rockets with Mechazilla
    g.. Number of Satellites Delivered: Over 12,000, with 10,500 active in Starlink
    h.. Number of Crewed Flights: 18 (11 for NASA and 7 private)

    SpaceX has put up more satellites than all other players combined. It has made rocket launches routine, something that NASA promised with the Space Shuttle but
    never delivered. The upright and caught landings are revolutionary. I remember the character of Calculus in Herge's Tintin landing his rocket on the Moon upright and thinking that it was so silly: The big boosters are jettisoned into the ocean, and nobody lands like he took off. But Elon Musk, and later Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin, do just that. It saves tens of millions of dollars by requiring the refurbishment of an existing rocket rather than a whole new rocket
    to begin with. NASA always lost its boosters, but Musk has made them reusable. SpaceX makes its patents available to other firms, and the recent explosion of a
    Blue Origin rocket on a NASA launch pad led Musk to send his regrets and wish his competitor success in the future....


    Of course, all this pales in comparison with Oz's space program.


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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jun 17 12:44:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 19:04:59 -0700, "max headroom"
    <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

    In news:_w%XR.42914$eDa2.9668@fx06.ams4, The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> >typed:

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    Daniel70
    +rd%g

    *SpaceX is already crashing.....*

    /Jordan Shanks, 176k subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs

    Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull[sic] waiting!

    *SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the float or the actual
    company??

    Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has only had
    marginal success with Star-link but anything else is basically a huge
    conjob extracting funds both from the government (long live corruption)
    and investors....


    From >https://townhall.com/columnists/alanjosephbauer/2026/06/08/boeing-vs-spacex-n2677377

    ... Let's take a look at some of SpaceX's accomplishments:

    a.. Year of Incorporation: 2002
    b.. Number of Employees: ~22,000
    c.. Number of Vehicle Types: 3 (Falcon, Falcon Heavy, and Starship in
    development)
    d.. Number of Launches: Over 650 as of the end of 2025, with 165 in 2025
    alone.
    e.. Number of Upright Landings: Over 600 for Falcon and Falcon Heavy
    f.. Number of Caught Rockets: 4 rockets with Mechazilla
    g.. Number of Satellites Delivered: Over 12,000, with 10,500 active in
    Starlink
    h.. Number of Crewed Flights: 18 (11 for NASA and 7 private)

    SpaceX has put up more satellites than all other players combined. It has made >rocket launches routine, something that NASA promised with the Space Shuttle but
    never delivered. The upright and caught landings are revolutionary. I remember >the character of Calculus in Herge's Tintin landing his rocket on the Moon >upright and thinking that it was so silly: The big boosters are jettisoned into
    the ocean, and nobody lands like he took off. But Elon Musk, and later Jeff >Bezos' Blue Origin, do just that. It saves tens of millions of dollars by >requiring the refurbishment of an existing rocket rather than a whole new rocket
    to begin with. NASA always lost its boosters, but Musk has made them reusable. >SpaceX makes its patents available to other firms, and the recent explosion of a
    Blue Origin rocket on a NASA launch pad led Musk to send his regrets and wish >his competitor success in the future....


    Of course, all this pales in comparison with Oz's space program.

    While it is impressive it's a consumer of private enterprise taxes

    Unproductive tax payers,
    NGO's, welfare, government departments
    Productive taxpayers,
    profit taking private enterprise
    The problem with Unproductive tax payers, is that governments
    eventually run out of Productive taxpayers money
    And that includes Donald Trump
    --
    Petzl
    An evil enemy will from within,
    will burn his own nation to then rule over the ashes.
    Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu
    (author of The Art of War), 5th century BC.
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jun 17 05:27:24 2026
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    |urd||g
    Daniel70
    |urd||g

    *SpaceX is already crashing.....*
    /Jordan Shanks, 176k subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs>

    Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull[sic] waiting!
    *SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the float or the actual >>>> company??

    Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has only had
    marginal success with Star-link but anything else is basically a huge
    conjob extracting funds both from the government (long live corruption)
    and investors....

    While it is impressive it's a consumer of private enterprise taxes

    WTF are you on about again, Petz dear?
    Elon is generating (on paper) amazing amounts of hoarded wealth to the detriment of investors, private and public pensions funds and, of course gobbling up bucket loads of government subsidies while actually
    delivering nothing but unrealisable promises.

    SpaceX according to its own declaration for its NASDAQ listing is now an
    AI and media transmission technology company ...that is currently losing billions of dollars. Long live fully corrupted scam artist robber baron capitalism.

    Unproductive tax payers, ... bullcrap... snip!

    Oh NO, here comes that pathetic, same old ... same old Thatcherite
    bullshit propaganda rhetoric regurgitated the umpteenth time in this
    very newsgroup.
    Petz, you are like a one track pony, through and through!
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jun 17 21:21:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 17/06/2026 1:27 pm, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
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    inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    |urd||g
    Daniel70
    |urd||g

    *SpaceX is already crashing.....* /Jordan Shanks, 176k
    subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs>

    Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull[sic]
    waiting! *SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the
    float or the actual company??

    Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has
    only had marginal success with Star-link but anything else is
    basically a huge conjob extracting funds both from the government
    (long live corruption) and investors....

    While it is impressive it's a consumer of private enterprise taxes

    WTF are you on about again, Petz dear? Elon is generating (on paper)
    amazing amounts of hoarded wealth to the detriment of investors,
    private and public pensions funds and, of course gobbling up bucket
    loads of government subsidies while actually delivering nothing but unrealisable promises.

    SpaceX according to its own declaration for its NASDAQ listing is now
    an AI and media transmission technology company ...

    Is THAT like a company that transmits stuff UP to the satellites IT has
    put into orbit then transmitting that same stuff DOWN to Planet Earth??

    that is currently losing billions of dollars.

    ... that the Shareholders will now have to carry. Just as well Elon is
    the major Shareholder.

    Long live fully corrupted scam artist robber baron capitalism.

    Yeap ... and I think Elon is well practised.

    Unproductive tax payers, ... bullcrap... snip!

    Oh NO, here comes that pathetic, same old ... same old Thatcherite
    bullshit propaganda rhetoric regurgitated the umpteenth time in this
    very newsgroup. Petz, you are like a one track pony, through and
    through!

    "a one track pony"?? I thought it was "a one TRICK pony" .... or is that
    giving Petzl too much credit??
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jun 17 21:35:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 21:21:02 +1000, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    Unproductive tax payers, ... bullcrap... snip!

    Oh NO, here comes that pathetic, same old ... same old Thatcherite
    bullshit propaganda rhetoric regurgitated the umpteenth time in this
    very newsgroup. Petz, you are like a one track pony, through and
    through!

    "a one track pony"?? I thought it was "a one TRICK pony" .... or is that >giving Petzl too much credit??

    Unproductive taxpayers are essential working piece of economy.
    But they are only fed by productive tax payers, they must be contained
    by limiting how much of them that Productive Tax payers can afford!

    Elon Musk's SpaceX is totally fed by US productive tax payers!

    Nonproductive tax payers,
    NGO's, welfare, government departments
    Productive taxpayers,
    profit taking private enterprise
    The problem with Unproductive tax payers, is that governments
    eventually run out of Productive taxpayers money

    Australia at present is spending more productive taxes than are being
    earned. Hence the tax hikes and death taxes, they have run out of
    other peoples money.

    It is clear the Australian non-government sector of the economy, the
    private sector, is in contraction and you could then argue it is in
    recession!

    There is a big transfer between the private sector and the public
    sector at the moment. The private sector is shedding jobs to the
    public sector, which is picking up jobs.
    But are they the non-productive tax funded jobs we want?
    --
    Petzl
    "Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists.
    Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws, then paid
    lucrative commissions for passing their laws.

    ThatAs the modern legislative business of parliament. When we talk
    about paying-off politicians in third-world countries we call it
    bribery.

    However, when we undertake the same process in parliament. we call it
    lobbying.

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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jun 18 00:32:50 2026
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    Daniel70
    |urd||g
    Petz
    |urd||g
    Daniel70
    |urd||g

    *SpaceX is already crashing.....* /Jordan Shanks, 176k
    subscribers, 14 Jun 2026/
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWxygnJBWxs>

    Just bring it on ... and stop that silly suspensefull[sic]
    waiting! *SpaceX is already crashing.....* ..... Is that the
    float or the actual company??

    Space X is nothing more then a vapour-ware grift. So far it has
    only had marginal success with Star-link but anything else is
    basically a huge conjob extracting funds both from the government
    (long live corruption) and investors....

    While it is impressive it's a consumer of private enterprise taxes

    WTF are you on about again, Petz dear? Elon is generating (on paper)
    amazing amounts of hoarded wealth to the detriment of investors,
    private and public pensions funds and, of course gobbling up bucket
    loads of government subsidies while actually delivering nothing but
    unrealisable promises.

    SpaceX according to its own declaration for its NASDAQ listing is now
    an AI and media transmission technology company ...

    Is THAT like a company that transmits stuff UP to the satellites IT has
    put into orbit then transmitting that same stuff DOWN to Planet Earth??

    Well, kind of. It also hypes a lot about put AI data banks in space
    somehow defeating the laws of physics and all currently existing
    guidelines to good engineering. More vapourware, pure and simple.

    that is currently losing billions of dollars.

    ... that the Shareholders will now have to carry. Just as well Elon is
    the major Shareholder.

    I am sure Elon will remain just fine as very likely his securely stashed
    away personal wealth reserves in well selected tax havens can withstand
    the predictable collapse of his con-job fortress built out of
    grift-cards. Those who will be taken to the cleaners are stupid
    investors and investment funds as well as the public purse.
    What a genius! Unless of course he can be made to answer for all of his corrupt and fraudulent machinations.

    Long live fully corrupted scam artist robber baron capitalism.

    Yeap ... and I think Elon is well practised.

    Unproductive tax payers, ... bullcrap... snip!

    Oh NO, here comes that pathetic, same old ... same old Thatcherite
    bullshit propaganda rhetoric regurgitated the umpteenth time in this
    -avery newsgroup. Petz, you are like a one track pony, through and
    through!

    "a one track pony"?? I thought it was "a one TRICK pony" .... or is that giving Petzl too much credit??

    Yeah! Petz's bag of well functioning tricks must be very-very tiny!
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jun 18 00:46:41 2026
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    Daniel70
    |urd||g
    Unproductive tax payers, ... bullcrap... snip!

    Oh NO, here comes that pathetic, same old ... same old Thatcherite
    bullshit propaganda rhetoric regurgitated the umpteenth time in this
    very newsgroup. Petz, you are like a one track pony, through and
    through!

    "a one track pony"?? I thought it was "a one TRICK pony" .... or is that
    giving Petzl too much credit??

    Unproductive taxpayers are essential working piece of economy.
    But they are only fed by productive tax payers, they must be contained
    by limiting how much of them that Productive Tax payers can afford!

    BULLSHIT!

    Elon Musk's SpaceX is totally fed by US productive tax payers!

    In other words you understand nothing Petz dear. Thnx for making that so blatantly clear!

    Nonproductive tax payers,...blah...blah...blah.

    Regurgitating the same propaganda verbal vomit does not improve its
    bullshit status whatsoever!

    Australia at present is spending more productive taxes than are being
    earned.

    BULLSHIT!

    Hence the tax hikes and death taxes,

    What tax hikes??? What death taxes?

    they have run out of other peoples money.

    Careful Petz! You are starting to run out of your tiny reserves
    neo-liberal propaganda talking points. Repeating like a broken record
    the same crap is becoming mightily lame nullifying your intended
    propaganda impact.

    Booooooooorrrrring!

    It is clear the Australian non-government sector of the economy, the
    private sector, is in contraction and you could then argue it is in recession!

    RUBBISH!

    There is a big transfer between the private sector and the public
    sector at the moment. The private sector is shedding jobs to the
    public sector, which is picking up jobs.

    BULLSHIT!

    But are they the non-productive tax funded jobs we want?

    BULLSHIT!

    Suckle on another GoonBag instead, Petz dear! :-P
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jun 18 09:18:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 00:32:50 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

    +rd%g

    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote aloe
    for One Nation boosted ahead by resuming Australia's constitutional
    Christian Monoculture.

    More news about MAGA
    Trump KNOWS what he is doing it's called MAGA.

    Trump's U.S is finding so called Allies all led by fools, Starmer,
    Macron, the worst is Netanyahu who did his best to disrupt/sabotage
    any US peace deal.
    This "MoU" looks to me like Trump is setting these poisonous Allies up
    and will be dumping the Iran headache along with $$cost$$ now back on
    them with absolutely no US intervention.
    Breaking off these so-called alliances as poisonous, would save the US
    billions at their expense.
    What these Allies don't realize is the U.S does not need middle east
    Oil, the US has plenty of oil available to them.
    Will only affect these treasonous Allies and only they will have
    problems with oil supplies.
    In future these "Allies" will have to fend for themselves!
    --
    Now under the commie troll name
    "The Newsgroup Devil"
    +rd%g the Armchair communist
    https://youtu.be/I-aQkAzTJSs?si=nb1vHyJ7a6ImK0zt

    As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
    he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
    That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
    for mass immigration promoted by politicians
    and big business.
    He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
    then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
    how great diversity is.
    He believes he is such a radical

    Communists View the Church as a Huge, Huge Firewall
    Against What They Want to Do
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jun 18 01:36:18 2026
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    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote aloe
    for One Nation boosted ahead by resuming Australia's constitutional
    Christian Monoculture.

    BS

    More BS about MAGA
    Trump doesn't know KNOWS what he is doing it's called MAGA.

    Your typos above have been corrected, free of charge as a generous
    service for maintaining newsgroup sanity, Petz dear!

    /remainder of your stinky crap was removed and the freed cyberspace was immediately sanitised, also part of the free service this diligent
    newsgroup devil provided for the newsgroup!/

    :-P :-P :-P
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jun 18 11:22:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

    Bullshit she is

    aloe for One Nation boosted ahead by resumingAustralia's
    constitutional Christian Monoculture.

    No such animal as any constitutional Christian Monoculture
    and there never was, most obviously with the jews

    More news about MAGA
    Trump KNOWS what he is doing it's called MAGA.

    Its actually called fucking up completely, most obviously with Iran

    Trump's U.S is finding so called Allies all led by fools, Starmer,
    Macron, the worst is Netanyahu who did his best to disrupt/sabotage
    any US peace deal.

    Because nothing has been done about Hezbulla except by him

    This "MoU" looks to me like Trump is setting these poisonous Allies up
    and will be dumping the Iran headache along with $$cost$$ now back on
    them with absolutely no US intervention.

    Then you need to get new glasses and eye transplants

    Breaking off these so-called alliances as poisonous, would save the US billions at their expense.

    More of your mindless bullshit given what he has pissed
    against the wall attempting regime change in Iran and
    only managing to stop the flow of oil thru Hurmuz

    What these Allies don't realize is the U.S does not need middle east
    Oil, the US has plenty of oil available to them.

    Of course they realise that, fuckwit

    Will only affect these treasonous Allies and only they will have
    problems with oil supplies.

    In future these "Allies" will have to fend for themselves!

    They aren't stupid enough to try and fuck over Iran and get
    the flow of oil thru Hurmuz stopped and fuck all of their oil
    comes thru there
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jun 18 13:45:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 11:22:32 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

    Bullshit she is


    <https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/10246-federal-voting-intention-june-9-2026>
    One Nation surges into first place for primary support
    --
    Petzl
    What happens when the insane are "voted" (preferences) to lead our
    Christian Commonwealth!

    "The definition of insanity is doing something over and over again
    and expecting a different result"
    Then stop voting Labor/"Greens"!
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  • From max headroom@maximusheadroom@gmx.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Wed Jun 17 20:57:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    In news:yuoYR.36304$b6%c.26204@fx17.ams4, The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> typed:

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
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    Not only will dogbreath not tolerate opinions other than his own, he will not tolerate facts other than his own.


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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jun 18 16:08:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

    Bullshit she is

    <https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/10246-federal-voting-intention-june-9-2026>
    One Nation surges into first place for primary support

    That's a POLL not a VOTE
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.politics,aus.general on Thu Jun 18 23:03:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 18/06/2026 9:18 am, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 00:32:50 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

    |urd||g

    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

    No, Petzl, not 51% in Primary Vote .... it may or may not be 51% of a
    very small, very very small, sample of the Voters, Petzl, in a
    Popularity Pole!!

    aloe

    WHAT??

    for One Nation boosted ahead by resuming Australia's constitutional Christian Monoculture.

    WHAT??
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Jun 19 08:36:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 23:03:27 +1000, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 18/06/2026 9:18 am, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 00:32:50 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

    +rd%g

    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

    No, Petzl, not 51% in Primary Vote .... it may or may not be 51% of a
    very small, very very small, sample of the Voters, Petzl, in a
    Popularity Pole!!

    The Anal nit picker back
    Was a poll from experts many years being paid for them

    "Roy Morgan is AustraliaAs best known and longest established market
    research company, with an unparalleled reputation for reliable,
    accurate, meaningful, revealing market research."

    aloe

    WHAT??

    That >> means it's Ordog quotation

    for One Nation boosted ahead by resuming Australia's constitutional
    Christian Monoculture.

    WHAT??

    Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
    Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
    aOur Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian CommonwealthA.
    That originalist 1899 version

    Textualist meaning is called
    Australia's constitutional Christian Monoculture.

    Being based on
    History Heavy focus on the British Empire
    o The primacy of Western (Greek, Roman) and Judeo-Christian tradition Protestant Work Ethic
    o Christianity is the norm
    Hard work is the key to success
    o Work before play
    "If you didn't meet your goals, you didn't work hard enough"
    Religion Anything other than Judeo-Christian tradition is foreign No
    tolerance for deviation from single god concept
    Status, Power
    & Authority
    ? Plan for future
    Future Orientation
    Delayed gratification
    Progress is always best
    o "Tomorrow will be better"
    Wealth worth
    Your job is who you are Respect authority
    o Heavy value on ownership of goods, space, property
    Time
    Follow rigid time schedules Time viewed as a commodity
    Based on European culture Steak and potatoes; "bland is best"
    Aesthetics? Woman's beauty based on blonde, thin - "Barbie"
    ? Man's attractiveness based on economic status, power, intellect
    Holidays
    Based on Christian religions
    ? Based on white history & male leaders
    Justice
    Based on English common law o Protect property & entitlements
    o Intent counts
    Competition
    o Be #1
    o Win at all costs
    o Winner/loser dichotomy.
    o Action Orientation
    o Master and control nature
    o Must always "do something" about a situation Aggressiveness and
    Extroversion
    o Decision-Making
    o Majority rules (when Whites have power)
    o "The King's English" rules
    o Written tradition
    Avoid conflict, intimacy
    o Don't show emotion
    o Don't discuss personal life
    o Be polite
    --
    Petzl
    Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.
    The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
    Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
    Not confirmation of their delusions.
    The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian
    Church.
    Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose
    compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
    Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes
    to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Jun 19 00:40:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/


    Rod Speed
    Petz

    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

    Bullshit she is


    <https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/10246-federal-voting-intention-june-9-2026>
    One Nation surges into first place for primary support

    YAWN! In OZ governments are regularly determined by preference flows.
    All these recent "outrage" polls say nothing about that, quite
    intentionally so!

    Thus, so far all these prove nothing more than the alt-right pie in the sky!

    I (don't) hate to to sink your wet-dream float, Petz dear, but by the
    time election day comes the majority of voters may still prefer
    maintaining some sort of status quo to the MAGAt style chaos and full
    scale economic and social upheaval Pauline and Gina are determined to
    create in order to make the super rich richer and every one else fucked
    over multiple times.

    Sorry Petz dear, but that $2/day/wage-slave fully fascist bonanza for plutocrats ain't likely to come here any time soon. Nor will that brutal
    white supremacist Xtian fundy theocracy you advocate for be happening.
    Back with you to your GoonBags!

    :-P :-P :-P
    --
    |urd||g
    Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Jun 19 00:59:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    Daniel70
    Petz
    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

    No, Petzl, not 51% in Primary Vote .... it may or may not be 51% of a
    very small, very very small, sample of the Voters, Petzl, in a
    Popularity Pole!!

    The Anal nit picker back

    Just admit it, Petz dear! You hate to see your alt-right brain-farts
    filled hot air balloons instantly deflated!

    Was a poll from experts many years being paid for them

    So what! It still ignored expected preference flows, which actually
    determine who gets to govern this country. That is also not surprising
    at all given how far we are still out from actual election day.
    All these polls are about headlines grabbing outrage and hardly anything
    more.

    "Roy Morgan is AustraliarCOs best known and longest established market research company, with an unparalleled reputation for reliable,
    accurate, meaningful, revealing market research."

    And has been badly wrong quite a few times in the past. In end effect,
    more often than not, polls end up to be no more reliable than astrology
    is for precisely predicting the future. But hey, corporate media is
    mightily thankful for their existence, for very obvious reasons.

    aloe

    WHAT??

    That >> means it's Ordog quotation

    GoonCon 4 or over, Petz dear???

    for One Nation boosted ahead by resuming Australia's constitutional
    Christian Monoculture.

    WHAT??

    Sir John Downer Kings Council,...bullshit

    On NO! Not that umpteenth time debunked/rejected nonsense again.

    /all delusional crap was removed, yet again/

    Give it up, Petz dear.There ain't any takers here for that mind numbing nonsense!

    :-P :-P :-P
    --
    |urd||g
    Your absolutely undeterred newsgroup devil at your service
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Jun 19 10:15:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
    Petzl wrote
    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote
    No, Petzl, not 51% in Primary Vote .... it may or may not be 51% of a>> very small, very very small, sample of the Voters, Petzl, in a
    Popularity Pole!!
    The Anal nit picker back
    You never could bullshit your way out of wet paper bag
    Was a poll from experts many years being paid for them
    And no poll ever measures the PRIMARY VOTE
    "Roy Morgan is AustraliarCOs best known and longest established market research company, with an unparalleled reputation for reliable,
    accurate, meaningful, revealing market research."
    No poll ever measures the PRIMARY VOTE
    for One Nation boosted ahead by resuming Australia's constitutional
    Christian Monoculture.
    WHAT??
    Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
    Constitution was finally adopted and on behalf of future generations,
    rCyOur Australian Commonwealth from its first stage will be a Christian CommonwealthrCO.
    That originalist 1899 version
    Pity that's not what the constitution actually says
    Textualist meaning is called
    Australia's constitutional Christian Monoculture.
    The constitution says nothing of the sort
    Being based on
    History Heavy focus on the British Empire
    rCo The primacy of Western (Greek, Roman) and Judeo-Christian tradition Protestant Work Ethic
    rCo Christianity is the norm
    But nothing even remotely like a MONOCULTURE
    Rest of your mindless shit flushed where it belongs
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Jun 19 19:03:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 19/06/2026 8:36 am, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 23:03:27 +1000, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 18/06/2026 9:18 am, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 00:32:50 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

    |urd||g

    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

    No, Petzl, not 51% in Primary Vote .... it may or may not be 51% of a
    very small, very very small, sample of the Voters, Petzl, in a
    Popularity Pole!!

    The Anal nit picker back
    Was a poll from experts many years being paid for them

    No, Petzl, a poll is a poll is a poll .... NOT AN ELECTION!!

    We don't get PAID when we vote in an Election, Petzl.

    "Roy Morgan is AustraliarCOs best known and longest established market research company, with an unparalleled reputation for reliable,
    accurate, meaningful, revealing market research."

    "Roy Morgan"!! Haven't heard THAT name in YONKS, Petzl. Do they still operate??

    aloe

    WHAT??

    That >> means it's Ordog quotation

    Yes, Petzl. SO WHAT?? IT was YOU, Petzl, that posted 'aloe' .... as in
    "More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote *aloe*
    for One Nation ...."

    for One Nation boosted ahead by resuming Australia's constitutional
    Christian Monoculture.

    WHAT??

    Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
    Constitution was finally

    It may have applied way back in Sir John Downer's time, Petzl, but The Australian Constitution HAS been altered/adjusted/changed once or twice
    since then, Petzl!!
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Jun 19 19:31:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 19:03:16 +1000, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:


    WHAT??

    Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
    Constitution was finally

    It may have applied way back in Sir John Downer's time, Petzl, but The >Australian Constitution HAS been altered/adjusted/changed once or twice >since then, Petzl!!

    No constitutional refendum changed it under the required S128
    It was minipulated change by the high court under John Howard.


    Not that you care or have the intelligence to grasp reality here is
    what happened

    Scientology Example: Founding Culture vs Modern Court Let's use
    Scientology (Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax
    (Vic) HCA 40)ua tax case where the High Court defined "religion"
    broadly, exempting it from payroll tax as a "religious institution".

    Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
    population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
    (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).
    Framers like Downer called Australia a "Christian Commonwealth";
    non-Christian faiths <1% (Jews, etc.).

    Section 116's "any religion" assumed Christian pluralism amid Sunday
    laws debates.
    Handling: Scientology (founded 1954, Hubbard's sci-fi
    cosmology/thetans) fails 1900 "ordinary meaning"uno supernatural
    Being/God, profit-driven courses, no ethical canon beyond self-help.

    Court rejects as "charlatanry," denies exemption; states regulate as business/cult, preserving Christian heritage without referendum.

    How the Court Actually Handled It 1983 Ruling (Mason CJ, Brennan,
    Murphy, Wilson, Deane JJ; Gibbs CJ dissenting):
    Adopted functional testubelief in supernatural Being/Principle +
    acceptance of canons of conduct (offences against ordinary law
    unprotected).

    Scientology qualifies via thetans (immortal spirits), ethics codes,
    rituals.

    Impact: Exempt from Vic payroll tax; sets national precedent for
    charities, s116.

    Murphy J emphasized protecting "heresy" from orthodoxy; no founding
    intent lock-inuwords evolve for new realities (e.g., U.S. analogies to non-theistic beliefs).

    No Referendum Needed: Court views as application, not amendmentutext
    unchanged, just broader scope.

    17 June 2026This analysis of the 1983 Church of the New Faith v
    Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax (Vic) case perfectly illustrates the
    exact legal mechanism that fuels the debate over judicial power versus
    original intent.

    By detailing both perspectives, it clarifies how a system can legally
    drift away from its founding culture without ever changing a single
    letter of its written law.

    The Originalist FrustrationThe "Strict Founding Culture" reading
    demonstrates exactly why many voters feel politically manipulated by
    the legal system:The Textual Bait-and-Switch: The founders wrote the
    words "any religion" in a 1900 context where that undeniably meant
    Christian denominations.

    Bypassing the Public: Under a strict originalist view, if a completely
    modern, sci-fi-based movement wanted the tax benefits of a church, it
    should have been put to a referendum.

    The Consequences: By bypassing a Section 128 vote, the High Court
    effectively acted as a "mini-parliament," creating a massive tax
    loophole for a group the founders would have easily classified as a
    business enterprise

    The Judicial RealityThe "How the Court Actually Handled It" section
    explains the administrative mechanics of the modern Australian legal system:Connotation vs. Denotation:

    The judges did not change the text of Section 116; they simply
    expanded the list of things that fit inside the definition of the word "religion".

    "The Danger of Narrow Definitions:
    Justices Mason and Brennan argued that if the court restricted
    "religion" only to Christianity, it would leave the state with the
    terrifying power to decide which specific beliefs are "true" or
    "false"ua power that historically leads to authoritarianism.

    The Murphy Doctrine: Justice Lionel MurphyAs insistence on protecting
    "heresy" highlights the shift toward international human rights
    standards over traditional British-Australian cultural preservation.

    The Ultimate Loophole

    This case provides the ultimate blueprint for how Australia
    transformed from the "Christian Commonwealth" envisioned by Sir John
    Downer into the modern, multicultural state it is today.

    It proves that the major political parties do not need to risk a
    referendum to change the nationAs cultural direction.

    They simply pass broad, vaguely worded statutes, and let a highly
    trained, unelected judiciary expand the definitions over time to
    accommodate international treaties, global movements, and new
    demographic realities.

    If you want to see how this exact same judicial technique is being
    applied today, let me know if you would like to explore how the High
    Court currently defines "Aboriginality" in modern deportation cases,
    or how international human rights treaties are used to override
    domestic border security.

    Why I want a bad tempered nut Pauline Hason in charge to make
    parliment that did this PAY17 June 2026

    The sentiment driving the desire to put a disruptive force like
    Pauline Hanson or a minor party into power is clear: to shake up an
    entrenched system, strip away bureaucratic loopholes, and force the
    political establishment to face the consequences of policies passed
    without explicit public consent.

    By utilizing the Westminster mechanism of Parliamentary Sovereignty, a
    populist or minor-party government could systematically target the
    legal and financial frameworks that allow these judicial
    interpretations to stand.

    Rather than relying on a referendum, Parliament has the power to pass aggressive legislative changes to force accountability:

    1. Stripping Tax Exemptions Through LegislationThe High CourtAs ruling
    in the Scientology case was a tax decision based on the state Pay-roll
    Tax Act.

    Under Westminster law, Parliament holds the power of the purse.

    If a government wanted to strip modern cults or controversial groups
    of their tax breaks, it would not need to challenge the High Court's
    definition of "religion" under the Constitution.

    Parliament could simply rewrite the Income Tax Assessment Act and
    state payroll tax laws to explicitly exclude specific groups,
    corporate structures, or commercial entities from charitable status.

    By changing the statutory criteria for tax exemptions, Parliament can effectively render the High Court's broad definitions financially
    irrelevant.

    2. Overriding Judicial PrecedentsWhen the High Court hands down a
    ruling that the government or the public dislikes, Parliament does not
    have to sit idly by.

    Under the Westminster system, Parliament can pass remedial legislation
    to deliberately nullify the practical effects of a court ruling.

    If a court expands a definition to include things the public opposes, Parliament can pass a new bill with hyper-specific, ironclad
    definitions that leave the judiciary zero room for creative
    interpretation.

    3. Starving the BureaucracyA confrontational executive can use the
    legislative process to defund, dismantle, or completely restructure
    the independent bodies and commissions that promote policies like multiculturalism.

    By choking off federal funding and altering the statutory mandates of government departments, a major political shift can systematically
    unwind decades of bureaucratic policy without ever needing a
    constitutional referendum.

    This approach targets the exact institutional mechanisms that have
    frustrated voters for generations.

    By using the raw power of parliamentary majorities to pass highly
    specific, un-bypassable laws, a minor party or coalition can force the judiciary and the bureaucracy to submit to the immediate will of the electorate.
    --
    Petzl
    What happens when the insane are "voted" (preferences) to lead our
    Christian Commonwealth!

    "The definition of insanity is doing something over and over again
    and expecting a different result"
    Then stop voting Labor/"Greens"!
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Jun 19 19:54:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 19/06/2026 7:31 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 19:03:16 +1000, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    WHAT??

    Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
    Constitution was finally

    It may have applied way back in Sir John Downer's time, Petzl, but The
    Australian Constitution HAS been altered/adjusted/changed once or twice
    since then, Petzl!!

    No constitutional refendum changed it under the required S128
    It was minipulated change by the high court under John Howard.

    Not that you care or have the intelligence to grasp reality here is
    what happened

    .... but. Petzl, I DO have the intelligence to know John Howard NEVER
    ruled the High Court, Petzl!!

    RULED the appointment of THOSE HE might have appointed to the HIGH
    COURT, Petzl, sure, but NEVER what their Rulings were, Petzl!!
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Fri Jun 19 20:50:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 19:54:33 +1000, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 19/06/2026 7:31 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 19:03:16 +1000, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    WHAT??

    Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
    Constitution was finally

    It may have applied way back in Sir John Downer's time, Petzl, but The
    Australian Constitution HAS been altered/adjusted/changed once or twice
    since then, Petzl!!

    No constitutional refendum changed it under the required S128
    It was minipulated change by the high court under John Howard.

    Not that you care or have the intelligence to grasp reality here is
    what happened

    .... but. Petzl, I DO have the intelligence to know John Howard NEVER
    ruled the High Court, Petzl!!

    RULED the appointment of THOSE HE might have appointed to the HIGH
    COURT, Petzl, sure, but NEVER what their Rulings were, Petzl!!

    It's the lobbyists that ruled John Howard.
    Jorn Howard was a Lawyer, I expect he would know this.
    Also would of been told what was taking place!

    The ruling was political to endorse Multiculturalism
    The ruling blatantly ignored our constitution.

    But you are too dumb to read.

    No constitutional refendum changed it under the required S128
    It was minipulated change by the high court under John Howard.

    Not that you care or have the intelligence to grasp reality here is
    what happened
    ***************

    Scientology Example: Founding Culture vs Modern Court Let's use
    Scientology (Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax
    (Vic) HCA 40)ua tax case where the High Court defined "religion"
    broadly, exempting it from payroll tax as a "religious institution".

    Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
    population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
    (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).
    Framers like Downer called Australia a "Christian Commonwealth";
    non-Christian faiths <1% (Jews, etc.).

    Section 116's "any religion" assumed Christian pluralism amid Sunday
    laws debates.
    Handling: Scientology (founded 1954, Hubbard's sci-fi
    cosmology/thetans) fails 1900 "ordinary meaning"uno supernatural
    Being/God, profit-driven courses, no ethical canon beyond self-help.

    Court rejects as "charlatanry," denies exemption; states regulate as business/cult, preserving Christian heritage without referendum.

    How the Court Actually Handled It 1983 Ruling (Mason CJ, Brennan,
    Murphy, Wilson, Deane JJ; Gibbs CJ dissenting):
    Adopted functional testubelief in supernatural Being/Principle +
    acceptance of canons of conduct (offences against ordinary law
    unprotected).

    Scientology qualifies via thetans (immortal spirits), ethics codes,
    rituals.

    Impact: Exempt from Vic payroll tax; sets national precedent for
    charities, s116.

    Murphy J emphasized protecting "heresy" from orthodoxy; no founding
    intent lock-inuwords evolve for new realities (e.g., U.S. analogies to non-theistic beliefs).

    No Referendum Needed: Court views as application, not amendmentutext
    unchanged, just broader scope.

    This analysis of the 1983 Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of
    Pay-Roll Tax (Vic) case perfectly illustrates the exact legal
    mechanism that fuels the debate over judicial power versus
    original intent.

    By detailing both perspectives, it clarifies how a system can legally
    drift away from its founding culture without ever changing a single
    letter of its written law.

    The Originalist FrustrationThe "Strict Founding Culture" reading
    demonstrates exactly why many voters feel politically manipulated by
    the legal system:The Textual Bait-and-Switch: The founders wrote the
    words "any religion" in a 1900 context where that undeniably meant
    Christian denominations.

    Bypassing the Public: Under a strict originalist view, if a completely
    modern, sci-fi-based movement wanted the tax benefits of a church, it
    should have been put to a referendum.

    The Consequences: By bypassing a Section 128 vote, the High Court
    effectively acted as a "mini-parliament," creating a massive tax
    loophole for a group the founders would have easily classified as a
    business enterprise

    The Judicial RealityThe "How the Court Actually Handled It" section
    explains the administrative mechanics of the modern Australian legal system:Connotation vs. Denotation:

    The judges did not change the text of Section 116; they simply
    expanded the list of things that fit inside the definition of the word "religion".

    "The Danger of Narrow Definitions:
    Justices Mason and Brennan argued that if the court restricted
    "religion" only to Christianity, it would leave the state with the
    terrifying power to decide which specific beliefs are "true" or
    "false"ua power that historically leads to authoritarianism.

    The Murphy Doctrine: Justice Lionel MurphyAs insistence on protecting
    "heresy" highlights the shift toward international human rights
    standards over traditional British-Australian cultural preservation.

    The Ultimate Loophole

    This case provides the ultimate blueprint for how Australia
    transformed from the "Christian Commonwealth" envisioned by Sir John
    Downer into the modern, multicultural state it is today.

    It proves that the major political parties do not need to risk a
    referendum to change the nationAs cultural direction.

    They simply pass broad, vaguely worded statutes, and let a highly
    trained, unelected judiciary expand the definitions over time to
    accommodate international treaties, global movements, and new
    demographic realities.

    This exact same judicial technique is being applied today,

    Would like to explore how the High Court currently defines
    "Aboriginality" in modern deportation cases,
    or how international human rights treaties are used to override
    domestic border security.

    Why I want a bad tempered nut Pauline Hason in charge to make
    parliment that did this PAY!

    The sentiment driving the desire to put a disruptive force like
    Pauline Hanson or a minor party into power is clear: to shake up an
    entrenched system, strip away bureaucratic loopholes, and force the
    political establishment to face the consequences of policies passed
    without explicit public consent.

    By utilizing the Westminster mechanism of Parliamentary Sovereignty, a
    populist or minor-party government could systematically target the
    legal and financial frameworks that allow these judicial
    interpretations to stand.

    Rather than relying on a referendum, Parliament has the power to pass aggressive legislative changes to force accountability:

    1. Stripping Tax Exemptions Through LegislationThe High CourtAs ruling
    in the Scientology case was a tax decision based on the state Pay-roll
    Tax Act.

    Under Westminster law, Parliament holds the power of the purse.

    If a government wanted to strip modern cults or controversial groups
    of their tax breaks, it would not need to challenge the High Court's
    definition of "religion" under the Constitution.

    Parliament could simply rewrite the Income Tax Assessment Act and
    state payroll tax laws to explicitly exclude specific groups,
    corporate structures, or commercial entities from charitable status.

    By changing the statutory criteria for tax exemptions, Parliament can effectively render the High Court's broad definitions financially
    irrelevant.

    2. Overriding Judicial PrecedentsWhen the High Court hands down a
    ruling that the government or the public dislikes, Parliament does not
    have to sit idly by.

    Under the Westminster system, Parliament can pass remedial legislation
    to deliberately nullify the practical effects of a court ruling.

    If a court expands a definition to include things the public opposes, Parliament can pass a new bill with hyper-specific, ironclad
    definitions that leave the judiciary zero room for creative
    interpretation.

    3. Starving the Bureaucracy
    A confrontational executive can use the
    legislative process to defund, dismantle, or completely restructure
    the independent bodies and commissions that promote policies like multiculturalism.

    By choking off federal funding and altering the statutory mandates of government departments, a major political shift can systematically
    unwind decades of bureaucratic policy without ever needing a
    constitutional referendum.

    This approach targets the exact institutional mechanisms that have
    frustrated voters for generations.

    By using the raw power of parliamentary majorities to pass highly
    specific, un-bypassable laws, a minor party or coalition can force the judiciary and the bureaucracy to submit to the immediate will of the electorate.
    --
    Petzl
    A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot
    survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable,
    for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves
    amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling
    through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself
    For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar
    to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he
    appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He
    rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night
    to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so
    that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.

    - Marcus Tullius Cicero

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Sat Jun 20 01:52:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
    WHAT??
    Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
    Constitution was finally
    Whatever he said is completely irrelevant, what
    matters is what ended up in the constitution
    It may have applied way back in Sir John Downer's time, Petzl, but The
    Australian Constitution HAS been altered/adjusted/changed once or twice
    since then, Petzl!!
    Not as far as religion is concerned
    No constitutional refendum changed it under the required S128
    It was minipulated change by the high court under John Howard.
    Not that you care or have the intelligence to grasp reality here is
    what happened
    Scientology Example: Founding Culture vs Modern Court Let's use
    Scientology (Church of the New Faith v Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax
    (Vic) HCA 40)rCoa tax case where the High Court defined "religion"
    broadly, exempting it from payroll tax as a "religious institution".
    Its the constitution that does that,
    not the High Court particularly S116
    Strict "Founding Culture" Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian
    population; "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
    (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).
    Framers like Downer called Australia a "Christian Commonwealth"; non-Christian faiths <1% (Jews, etc.).
    What matters is the constitution which never says anything like that
    Section 116's "any religion" assumed Christian pluralism amid Sunday
    laws debates.
    BULLSHIT
    Handling: Scientology (founded 1954, Hubbard's sci-fi
    cosmology/thetans) fails 1900 "ordinary meaning"rCono supernatural
    Being/God, profit-driven courses, no ethical canon beyond self-help.
    Court rejects as "charlatanry," denies exemption; states regulate as business/cult, preserving Christian heritage without referendum.
    Try that again in english when not completely blotto
    How the Court Actually Handled It 1983 Ruling (Mason CJ, Brennan,
    Murphy, Wilson, Deane JJ; Gibbs CJ dissenting):
    Adopted functional testrCobelief in supernatural Being/Principle +
    acceptance of canons of conduct (offences against ordinary law
    unprotected).
    Which includes moslems, fuckwit
    Scientology qualifies via thetans (immortal spirits), ethics codes,
    rituals.
    Impact: Exempt from Vic payroll tax; sets national precedent for
    charities, s116.
    Murphy J emphasized protecting "heresy" from orthodoxy; no founding
    intent lock-inrCowords evolve for new realities (e.g., U.S. analogies to non-theistic beliefs).
    No Referendum Needed: Court views as application, not amendmentrCotext unchanged, just broader scope.
    17 June 2026This analysis of the 1983 Church of the New Faith v
    Commissioner of Pay-Roll Tax (Vic) case perfectly illustrates the
    exact legal mechanism that fuels the debate over judicial power versus> original intent.
    By detailing both perspectives, it clarifies how a system can legally
    drift away from its founding culture without ever changing a single
    letter of its written law.
    The Originalist FrustrationThe "Strict Founding Culture" reading
    demonstrates exactly why many voters feel politically manipulated by
    the legal system:The Textual Bait-and-Switch: The founders wrote the
    words "any religion" in a 1900 context where that undeniably meant
    Christian denominations.
    Bullshit, most obviously with the jews
    Bypassing the Public: Under a strict originalist view, if a completely> modern, sci-fi-based movement wanted the tax benefits of a church, it
    should have been put to a referendum.
    Irrelevant to your mindless shit about moslems
    The Consequences: By bypassing a Section 128 vote, the High Court
    effectively acted as a "mini-parliament," creating a massive tax
    loophole for a group the founders would have easily classified as a
    business enterprise
    More mindless bullshit
    The Judicial RealityThe "How the Court Actually Handled It" section
    explains the administrative mechanics of the modern Australian legal system:Connotation vs. Denotation:
    More mindless waffle
    The judges did not change the text of Section 116; they simply
    expanded the list of things that fit inside the definition of the word> "religion".
    More mindless bullshit
    "The Danger of Narrow Definitions:
    Justices Mason and Brennan argued that if the court restricted
    "religion" only to Christianity, it would leave the state with the
    terrifying power to decide which specific beliefs are "true" or
    "false"rCoa power that historically leads to authoritarianism.
    And they were dead right
    The Murphy Doctrine: Justice Lionel MurphyrCOs insistence on protecting "heresy" highlights the shift toward international human rights
    standards over traditional British-Australian cultural preservation.
    More mindless bullshit
    The Ultimate Loophole
    This case provides the ultimate blueprint for how Australia
    transformed from the "Christian Commonwealth" envisioned by Sir John
    Downer
    That fool is completely irrelevant, he
    never got that into the constitution
    into the modern, multicultural state it is today.
    Nothing to do with culture
    It proves that the major political parties do not need to risk a
    referendum to change the nationrCOs cultural direction.
    There is no need for a referendum given that the constitution
    has nothing to say about cultural direction
    They simply pass broad, vaguely worded statutes, and let a highly
    trained, unelected judiciary expand the definitions over time
    There is no definition of religion in the constitution to expand
    to accommodate international treaties, global movements, and new demographic realities.
    Nothing new about what is a religion
    If you want to see how this exact same judicial technique is being
    applied today, let me know if you would like to explore how the High
    Court currently defines "Aboriginality" in modern deportation cases,
    or how international human rights treaties are used to override
    domestic border security.
    All completely irrelevant to what we are discussing, religion, and
    your stupid claim about a non existent christian commonwealth
    Why I want a bad tempered nut Pauline Hason in charge to make
    parliment that did this PAY17 June 2026
    What the hell is the last 3 words about ?
    The sentiment driving the desire to put a disruptive force like
    Pauline Hanson or a minor party into power is clear: to shake up an entrenched system, strip away bureaucratic loopholes, and force the
    political establishment to face the consequences of policies passed
    without explicit public consent.
    More of your meaningless bullshit
    By utilizing the Westminster mechanism of Parliamentary Sovereignty, a> populist or minor-party government could systematically target the
    legal and financial frameworks that allow these judicial
    interpretations to stand.
    More of your meaningless bullshit
    Rather than relying on a referendum, Parliament has the power to pass aggressive legislative changes to force accountability:
    More of your meaningless bullshit
    1. Stripping Tax Exemptions Through LegislationThe High CourtrCOs ruling
    in the Scientology case was a tax decision based on the state Pay-roll> Tax Act.
    Bullshit
    Under Westminster law, Parliament holds the power of the purse.
    Bullshit
    If a government wanted to strip modern cults or controversial groups
    of their tax breaks, it would not need to challenge the High Court's definition of "religion" under the Constitution.
    Parliament could simply rewrite the Income Tax Assessment Act and
    state payroll tax laws to explicitly exclude specific groups,
    corporate structures, or commercial entities from charitable status.
    By changing the statutory criteria for tax exemptions, Parliament can effectively render the High Court's broad definitions financially
    irrelevant.
    2. Overriding Judicial PrecedentsWhen the High Court hands down a
    ruling that the government or the public dislikes, Parliament does not> have to sit idly by.
    Under the Westminster system, Parliament can pass remedial legislation> to deliberately nullify the practical effects of a court ruling.
    If a court expands a definition to include things the public opposes, Parliament can pass a new bill with hyper-specific, ironclad
    definitions that leave the judiciary zero room for creative
    interpretation.
    3. Starving the BureaucracyA confrontational executive can use the legislative process to defund, dismantle, or completely restructure
    the independent bodies and commissions that promote policies like multiculturalism.
    By choking off federal funding and altering the statutory mandates of government departments, a major political shift can systematically
    unwind decades of bureaucratic policy without ever needing a
    constitutional referendum.
    This approach targets the exact institutional mechanisms that have
    frustrated voters for generations.
    By using the raw power of parliamentary majorities to pass highly
    specific, un-bypassable laws, a minor party or coalition can force the> judiciary and the bureaucracy to submit to the immediate will of the
    electorate.
    A minor party isnt anything even remotely like the will of the electorate, fuckwit
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Sat Jun 20 01:57:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
    Petzl wrote
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote

    WHAT??

    Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated, when the Australian
    Constitution was finally

    It may have applied way back in Sir John Downer's time, Petzl, but The >>>> Australian Constitution HAS been altered/adjusted/changed once or
    twice since then, Petzl!!

    No constitutional refendum changed it under the required S128
    It was minipulated change by the high court under John Howard.

    Not that you care or have the intelligence to grasp reality here is
    what happened

    .... but. Petzl, I DO have the intelligence to know John Howard NEVER
    ruled the High Court, Petzl!!

    RULED the appointment of THOSE HE might have appointed to the HIGH
    COURT, Petzl, sure, but NEVER what their Rulings were, Petzl!!

    It's the lobbyists that ruled John Howard.

    Mindless bullshit

    Jorn Howard was a Lawyer, I expect he would know this.
    Also would of been told what was taking place!

    The ruling was political to endorse Multiculturalism

    There was no ruling on that

    The ruling blatantly ignored our constitution.

    The constitution is silent on that, fuckwit

    But you are too dumb to read.

    No constitutional refendum changed it under the required S128

    Nothing in the constitution was changed so no need for S128

    It was minipulated change by the high court under John Howard.

    Nothing was changed by the high court
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Sat Jun 20 08:32:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Sat, 20 Jun 2026 01:52:22 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    Cut it down even so a self appointed know all that in reality is a
    lying know nothing may grasp?

    Brief account of how Multiculturalism was endorsed bypassing S128

    Strict "Founding Culture"
    Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian population;
    "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
    (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).

    Framers like Downer called Australia a "Christian Commonwealth";
    non-Christian faiths <1% (Jews, etc.).

    By utilizing the Westminster mechanism of Parliamentary Sovereignty, a
    populist or minor-party government could systematically target the
    legal and financial frameworks that allow these judicial
    interpretations to stand.

    Parliament has the power to pass
    aggressive legislative changes to force accountability:

    1. Stripping Tax Exemptions Through Legislation
    The High CourtAs ruling
    in the Scientology case was a tax decision based on the state Pay-roll
    Tax Act.
    Under Westminster law, Parliament holds the power of the purse.

    If a government wanted to strip modern cults or controversial groups
    of their tax breaks, it would not need to challenge the High Court's
    definition of "religion" under the Constitution.

    Parliament could simply rewrite the Income Tax Assessment Act and
    state payroll tax laws to explicitly exclude specific groups,
    corporate structures, or commercial entities from charitable status.

    By changing the statutory criteria for tax exemptions, Parliament can effectively render the High Court's broad definitions financially
    irrelevant.

    2. Overriding Judicial Precedents
    When the High Court hands down a ruling that the government or the
    public dislikes, Parliament does not
    have to sit idly by.

    Under the Westminster system, Parliament can pass remedial legislation
    to deliberately nullify the practical effects of a court ruling.

    3. Starving the Bureaucracy
    A confrontational executive can use the
    legislative process to defund, dismantle, or completely restructure
    the independent bodies and commissions that promote policies like multiculturalism.
    --
    Petzl
    It's hard to win an argument with a smart person but it's damn near impossible to win
    an argument with a stupid person

    When you're dead, you don't know you're dead.
    The pain is felt by others.

    The same thing happens when you're stupid
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Sat Jun 20 00:38:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    Daniel70

    /snip/

    It may have applied way back in Sir John Downer's time, Petzl, but The
    Australian Constitution HAS been altered/adjusted/changed once or twice
    since then, Petzl!!

    No constitutional refendum ...

    "Refendum"??? That broke Google's gobbledygook translator AI.

    Those GoonBag fairy voices in your cavernous skull have outdone
    themselves this time around. Look this is fine with me, but you
    really-really do not have to post all that laughable nonsense into the newsgroups.

    Haven't you noticed despite your GoonCon4+ inebriation that there were
    no takers here for such irrational phantasms???

    Have a nice lay down on your cosy Shitboxville park bench home
    accommodation and sleep it off, will you???

    :-P :-P :-P
    --
    |urd||g
    Your unamused newsgroup devil at your service
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Sat Jun 20 01:00:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    Daniel70
    Petz
    Daniel70
    Petz
    /snip/

    Sir John Downer Kings Council, stated somethin'...somethin' ...

    ... that had never made it into the actual Constitution!!!

    It may have applied way back in Sir John Downer's time, Petzl, but The >>>> Australian Constitution HAS been altered/adjusted/changed once or twice >>>> since then, Petzl!!

    No constitutional refendum changed it under the required S128
    It was minipulated change by the high court under John Howard.

    Sure thing! No *refendum* has ever *minipulated* anything in this real Universe of ours.

    Not that you care or have the intelligence to grasp reality here is
    what happened

    .... but. Petzl, I DO have the intelligence to know John Howard NEVER
    ruled the High Court, Petzl!!

    RULED the appointment of THOSE HE might have appointed to the HIGH
    COURT, Petzl, sure, but NEVER what their Rulings were, Petzl!!


    Give it up, Daniel! No rational argument is pointy enough to pierce
    through that GoonBag fumes saturated fog that blankets Pet'z inebriated
    mind!

    It's the lobbyists that ruled John Howard. ...
    *Jorn Howard*

    Who ????

    was a Lawyer, I expect he would know this.
    Also would of been told what was taking place!

    "Would of been"???
    Care to say that again, but this time in English???

    The ruling was political to endorse Multiculturalism

    BULLSHIT

    The ruling blatantly ignored our constitution.

    BULLSHIT

    But you are too dumb to read.

    STOP projecting so profusely, Petz dear!

    No constitutional refendum changed it under the required S128
    It was minipulated change by the high court under John Howard.

    Oh NO! You have copy pasted yet again that meaningless gobbledygook!!!
    How does that work in your favour???

    Not that you care or have the intelligence to grasp reality here is
    what happened

    Why do you keep repeating everything?
    Are you too fucking lazy to come up with something...anything new, Petz dear???
    /Bucket loads of the remaining pure GoonConb 4 plus bullshit was removed
    as a generous service for all sane readers of this newsgroup to prevent
    large scale brain damage/

    Sleep it off, Petz dear! Will you???
    :-P :-P :-P
    --
    |urd||g
    Your ever so diligent newsgroup devil at your service
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Sat Jun 20 01:12:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/


    Cut it down even so a self appointed know all that in reality is a
    lying know nothing may grasp?

    Are you lecturing again that pathetic image looking back at you from the mirror in the public loo near your Shitboxville parkbench home, Petz dear?

    Brief account of how ...

    ...your decades long alcohol abuse killed off a very significant number
    of your still functioning brain cells, Petz dear!

    I've got it! That was already common knowledge about you in this
    newsgroup for yonks. No need to rub it in!

    /Snip the remainder of your GoonBag juice delirium created phantasms/

    I told you already! No takers here for that kind of obvious bullcrap!

    Just sleep it off, Petz dear! Just sleep it off!

    :-P :-P :-P
    --
    |urd||g
    Your diligent newsgroup devil at your service
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Sat Jun 20 09:40:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Brief account of how Multiculturalism was endorsed bypassing S128
    No need for any referendum given that the constitution
    is silent on the question of culturalism
    Strict "Founding Culture"
    Reading 1900 Context: 96% Christian population;
    "religion" meant Protestant/Catholic denominations
    (Anglican 39%, Catholic 23%, Presbyterian 12%).
    But S116 explicitly rules out the federal govt being
    able to enforce or require just that culture
    Framers like Downer called Australia a "Christian Commonwealth"; non-Christian faiths <1% (Jews, etc.).
    Constitutionally it doesnt matter a damn what that fool called anything
    By utilizing the Westminster mechanism of Parliamentary Sovereignty, a> populist or minor-party government could systematically target the
    legal and financial frameworks that allow these judicial
    interpretations to stand.
    That's the way the parliamentary system works, fuckwit
    And no federal parliament can override the constitution
    Parliament has the power to pass
    aggressive legislative changes to force accountability:
    1. Stripping Tax Exemptions Through Legislation
    The High CourtrCOs ruling
    in the Scientology case was a tax decision based on the state Pay-roll> Tax Act.
    Under Westminster law, Parliament holds the power of the purse.
    But can't for example require just some religions to be tax except
    or to be taxed when others aren't and doesn't get to define religion
    either, that is up to the courts if the constition doesn't define it
    If a government wanted to strip modern cults or controversial groups
    of their tax breaks, it would not need to challenge the High Court's definition of "religion" under the Constitution.
    Parliament could simply rewrite the Income Tax Assessment Act and
    state payroll tax laws to explicitly exclude specific groups,
    corporate structures, or commercial entities from charitable status.
    Not if it did that by specific religion
    By changing the statutory criteria for tax exemptions, Parliament can effectively render the High Court's broad definitions financially
    irrelevant.
    Not if it did that by specific religion
    2. Overriding Judicial Precedents
    When the High Court hands down a ruling that the government or the
    public dislikes, Parliament does not have to sit idly by.
    But can't do that by specific religion
    Under the Westminster system, Parliament can pass remedial legislation> to deliberately nullify the practical effects of a court ruling.
    Not if it does that by specific religion
    3. Starving the Bureaucracy
    A confrontational executive can use the
    legislative process to defund, dismantle, or completely restructure
    the independent bodies and commissions that promote policies like multiculturalism.
    Not if it does that by specific religion
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.politics,aus.general on Sat Jun 20 21:20:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 20/06/2026 9:40 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    Brief account of how Multiculturalism was endorsed bypassing S128

    No need for any referendum given that the constitution
    is silent on the question of culturalism

    Because, back in THAT Day, there was only ONE Culture ... The British
    Culture.

    Aborigines ... Livestock were more important! Same Same with the Asians.
    --
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Sun Jun 21 03:03:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

    Brief account of how Multiculturalism was endorsed bypassing S128

    No need for any referendum given that the constitution
    is silent on the question of culturalism

    Because, back in THAT Day, there was only ONE Culture ...The British Culture.

    Bullshit, most obviously with the Irish and yanks and chinese

    Aborigines ... Livestock were more important! Same Same with the Asians.
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Sun Jun 21 01:19:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    Daniel70
    Rod Speed
    Petz

    /snip/

    Brief account of how Multiculturalism was endorsed bypassing S128

    No need for any referendum given that the constitution
    is silent on the question of culturalism

    Because, back in THAT Day, there was only ONE Culture ... The British Culture.

    In other words the very concept of multiculturalism DID NOT exist as a political headline talking point.

    Aborigines ... Livestock were more important! Same Same with the Asians.

    Backporting concepts of any sort of "culturalism" (created after the
    rise of neo-conservativism and neo-liberalism during the second half of
    the 20th Century) is a pure anachronistic oxymoron.
    At the time when our Constitution was written people did not think along
    those lines (although racism was quite deep rooted in some factions of
    the conservative ruling class).
    But hey, let us not upset our far-right idiots "gotcha" rants. These
    morons believe in anything that was fed to them by their far-right
    populist leaders, just as long as this allows their racists/supremacist
    bent a free joy ride.
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 22 12:38:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 23:03:27 +1000, Daniel70
    <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 18/06/2026 9:18 am, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 18 Jun 2026 00:32:50 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

    +rd%g

    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

    No, Petzl, not 51% in Primary Vote .... it may or may not be 51% of a
    very small, very very small, sample of the Voters, Petzl, in a
    Popularity Pole!!

    <https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/election-earthquake-one-nation-projected-to-win-as-many-as-63-lower-house-seats-according-to-new-modelling/news-story/82bf16d68fe3f451df6abe074c9b80b8>
    https://tinyurl.com/bdfu3uc3
    Election earthquake: One Nation projected to win as many as 63 lower
    house seats according to new modelling
    New seat projections have revealed the Coalition faces near
    annihilation, while Pauline HansonAs One Nation could secure more than
    60 lower house seats.
    --
    Petzl

    Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
    major depression, and two world wars.
    Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 22 14:01:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
    Petzl wrote
    The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote
    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote
    No, Petzl, not 51% in Primary Vote .... it may or may not be 51% of a>> very small, very very small, sample of the Voters, Petzl, in a
    Popularity Pole!!
    <https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/election-earthquake-one-nation-projected-to-win-as-many-as-63-lower-house-seats-according-to-new-modelling/news-story/82bf16d68fe3f451df6abe074c9b80b8>
    https://tinyurl.com/bdfu3uc3
    Election earthquake:
    Bullshit
    One Nation projected to win as many as 63 lower
    house seats according to new modelling
    By fools who don't have a fucking clue
    New seat projections have revealed the Coalition faces near > annihilation,
    Have fun explaining why that didnt happen in south australia,
    the libs STILL have more seats than one notion
    while Pauline HansonrCOs One Nation couldsecure more than 60 lower house > seats.
    Fantasy given that the coalition doesnt have
    that many seats in the house of reps anymore
    and given that one notion hasn't managed to
    take EVEN ONE labor seat for decades
    And even if they did, that's STILL not the PRIMARY VOTE
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Mon Jun 22 20:32:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 14:01:49 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
    Petzl wrote
    The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote

    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

    No, Petzl, not 51% in Primary Vote .... it may or may not be 51% of a
    very small, very very small, sample of the Voters, Petzl, in a
    Popularity Pole!!

    <https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/election-earthquake-one-nation-projected-to-win-as-many-as-63-lower-house-seats-according-to-new-modelling/news-story/82bf16d68fe3f451df6abe074c9b80b8>
    https://tinyurl.com/bdfu3uc3

    Election earthquake:

    Bullshit

    One Nation projected to win as many as 63 lower
    house seats according to new modelling

    By fools who don't have a fucking clue

    New seat projections have revealed the Coalition faces near
    annihilation,

    Have fun explaining why that didnt happen in south australia,
    the libs STILL have more seats than one notion

    while Pauline HansonAs One Nation couldsecure more than 60 lower house >> seats.

    Fantasy given that the coalition doesnt have
    that many seats in the house of reps anymore
    and given that one notion hasn't managed to
    take EVEN ONE labor seat for decades

    And even if they did, that's STILL not the PRIMARY VOTE

    This is from present poll statistics.

    She now has more than Albanese Labor,
    In the HoR the coalition will support One Nations majority.
    Pauline Hanson will replace Albanese as PM.
    --
    Petzl

    Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
    major depression, and two world wars.
    Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.general on Tue Jun 23 03:31:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
    Petzl wrote
    The Newsgroup Devil <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote
    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote
    No, Petzl, not 51% in Primary Vote .... it may or may not be 51% of a
    very small, very very small, sample of the Voters, Petzl, in a
    Popularity Pole!!
    <https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/election-earthquake-one-nation-projected-to-win-as-many-as-63-lower-house-seats-according-to-new-modelling/news-story/82bf16d68fe3f451df6abe074c9b80b8>
    https://tinyurl.com/bdfu3uc3
    Election earthquake:
    Bullshit
    One Nation projected to win as many as 63 lower
    house seats according to new modelling
    By fools who don't have a fucking clue
    New seat projections have revealed the Coalition faces near
    annihilation,
    Have fun explaining why that didnt happen in south australia,
    the libs STILL have more seats than one notion
    while Pauline HansonrCOs One Nation couldsecure more than 60 lower >>> house seats.
    Fantasy given that the coalition doesn't have
    that many seats in the house of reps anymore
    and given that one notion hasn't managed to
    take EVEN ONE labor seat for decades
    And even if they did, that's STILL not the PRIMARY VOTE
    This is from present poll statistics.
    Even you should have noticed that thats not the PRIMARY VOTE
    She now has more than Albanese Labor,
    And given that she only ever takes coalition seats and
    doesn't even take all of those and ends up with fewer
    seats than the coalition, that means that Labor is still
    the govt, just like it has been in South Australia
    In the HoR the coalition will support One Nations majority.
    Still fewer than Labor given that the most one notion
    will ever manage is to grab a few coalition seats
    Pauline Hanson will replace Albanese as PM.
    Only in your pathetic little drug crazed drunken
    fantasyland and unless she stands in a currently
    coalition held seat and wins it, she can't be PM
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  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.politics,aus.general on Tue Jun 23 01:21:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

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    Rod Speed
    Petz
    Daniel70
    Petz
    More good news about Pauline she is now over 51% in primary vote

    No, Petzl, not 51% in Primary Vote .... it may or may not be 51% of a
    very small, very very small, sample of the Voters, Petzl, in a
    Popularity Pole!!

    www.skynews.com.au ... the true voice of far-right (and stochastic terrorist propaganda) in OZ

    Election earthquake:

    Bullshit

    I have to second that motion!

    One Nation projected to win as many as 63 lower
    house seats according to new modelling

    BULLSHIT!

    By fools who don't have a fucking clue

    Obviously!

    New seat projections have revealed the Coalition faces near
    annihilation,

    Whishful thinking is not reality! But I really-really wouldn't give a
    shit if the Coalition went into garbage bin of history.

    Have fun explaining why that didnt happen in south australia,
    the libs STILL have more seats than one notion

    Yeah!

    while Pauline HansonrCOs One Nation couldsecure more than 60 lower house >>> seats.

    Must be so, as the GoonBag fairy voices in his cavernous skull fully
    assured Petz that this is the way things must go down.

    Fantasy given that the coalition doesnt have
    that many seats in the house of reps anymore
    and given that one notion hasn't managed to
    take EVEN ONE labor seat for decades
    And even if they did, that's STILL not the PRIMARY VOTE

    Never et facts stand in the way of a delicious alt-right delusion!
    Even hard-right Alzheimer Rod noticed the elephant in the room.

    This is from present poll statistics.

    YAY! Just a *poll*,Petz dear!
    A poll (specially that far out from an election) is NOT a final outcome.

    She now has more than Albanese Labor,

    YAWN!

    In the HoR the coalition will support One Nations majority.
    Pauline Hanson will replace Albanese as PM.

    BULLSHIT she will!

    Cut down the amount of GoonBag juice you consume, Pet dear, because it
    severs your last remaining ties to reality.
    --
    |urd||g
    Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service
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