• That annoying 'pub test'!

    From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.general,aus.politics on Sat Apr 25 00:04:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    *The Senate Inquiry the Gas Lobby Didn't Want*

    /Swollen Pickles, 24 Apr 2026/
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjp_JYtL30Y>

    "Australia is one of the world's biggest gas exporters. You'd think
    that'd make us rich. It hasn't. This week a Senate inquiry took a hard
    look at exactly how much tax gas companies actually pay and more
    importantly, how much they don't."

    ~~~~ ~~~~

    Just about anything one hears in the political public domain from the
    fossil fuel/mining lobby are transparently unashamed lies.

    Australia is a natural resources rich country, yet our riches are not
    making this country rich...far from it.
    C'me on guys...if Norway could deal with this nonsense situation
    properly, why can't we?

    Why can't we force these corporation to pay their fair share towards benefiting all of us, nor just their already filthy rich robber barons
    owners?
    --
    |urd||g
    Your ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.general,aus.politics on Sat Apr 25 11:19:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Sat, 25 Apr 2026 00:04:37 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

    *The Senate Inquiry the Gas Lobby Didn't Want*

    /Swollen Pickles, 24 Apr 2026/ ><https://youtu.be/5xDLO1SrkKI?si=693SSLZHq2OfTSAb>

    "Australia is one of the world's biggest gas exporters. You'd think
    that'd make us rich. It hasn't. This week a Senate inquiry took a hard
    look at exactly how much tax gas companies actually pay and more >importantly, how much they don't."

    ~~~~ ~~~~

    Just about anything one hears in the political public domain from the
    fossil fuel/mining lobby are transparently unashamed lies.

    Australia is a natural resources rich country, yet our riches are not
    making this country rich...far from it.
    C'me on guys...if Norway could deal with this nonsense situation
    properly, why can't we?

    Why can't we force these corporation to pay their fair share towards >benefiting all of us, nor just their already filthy rich robber barons >owners?

    If Australia benefited from Gas, Oil, Coal exports it would create the reasoning why not add value to them by using it in Australia.
    Suppose +rd%g see the sense in justifying carbon exports to be burnt
    in overseas countries, so the books show we have nothing to do with
    any proclaimed "carbon footprint"
    \
    --
    Petzl
    In a democracy of course you always get a choice
    Do you want to be governed by the red or by the blue
    itAs entirely up to you
    Do you want to be patronized or condescended to, by liars or by crooks you get to choose.
    Would you prefer your fundamental values to be insulted or ignored by con-men or by charlatans
    In short do you want your influence to be zero or nil
    and when would you like to be listened to, never or not at all, itAs your choice
    Do you want, some more choices.
    Take-it-or-leave-it
    Now thereAs a real choice
    we have proportional voting in Australia USE IT
    IAd be happy with any kind of representation wouldn't you

    I would like to see a new government and part of me doesn'tAgive a damn whoAs in it as long as it doesn'tAinclude anybody from the Labor, Liberal or Green party organizations that show itself to be without shame or principle

    All spineless and authoritarian both cowardly and war mongering at the same time
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.general,aus.politics on Sun Apr 26 00:57:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    |urd||g

    *The Senate Inquiry the Gas Lobby Didn't Want*

    /Swollen Pickles, 24 Apr 2026/
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjp_JYtL30Y>

    "Australia is one of the world's biggest gas exporters. You'd think
    that'd make us rich. It hasn't. This week a Senate inquiry took a hard
    look at exactly how much tax gas companies actually pay and more
    importantly, how much they don't."

    ~~~~ ~~~~

    Just about anything one hears in the political public domain from the
    fossil fuel/mining lobby are transparently unashamed lies.

    Australia is a natural resources rich country, yet our riches are not
    making this country rich...far from it.
    C'me on guys...if Norway could deal with this nonsense situation
    properly, why can't we?

    Why can't we force these corporation to pay their fair share towards
    benefiting all of us, nor just their already filthy rich robber barons
    owners?


    If Australia benefited from Gas, Oil, Coal exports it would create the reasoning why not add value to them by using it in Australia.

    So you admit that what the Coalition has been doing to Australia under
    their neo-liberal, robber baron free marketeering, sell out (AKA
    practically give away) most things in public property to their
    industrial mates. thereby following their ruthless capitalist
    ideological dogma for decades was a huge mistake?

    Suppose |urd||g see the sense...

    After all those years I have been telling the newsgroup where I stand on econopolitical issues you, Petz dear, still have no fucking
    comprehension of my already ad nauseam stated position on most things.

    But then that is no surprise to anyone on this newsgroup. You do not
    read nor watch anything that might disagree even the slightest with your alt-right blinkered view of the Universe. Instead of trying to
    comprehend those articles and videos I present to the newsgroup for discussion, you simply falsify the attached links to point to your
    favourite alt-right cyber sewers in a pathetic attempt to undermine my
    post's integrity.

    justifying carbon exports to be burnt
    in overseas countries, so the books show we have nothing to do with
    any proclaimed "carbon footprint"

    You would not be your horrible self, Petz dear, if you did not gleefully misrepresented everything I really stand for.

    Given the very important nature of fossil-carbon resources for the long
    term future of chemical industries/manufacturing I find their brain dead wastage for burning them for the generation of mega profits for ruling capitalist upper class absolutely unjustifiable. We now do have
    technologies which can completely replace their usage as fuel (with the possible exception of aviation). The bi-products of fossil fuel usage
    are fucking up our climate and cause environmental destruction as well
    as permanent damage to our collective human heath.
    And what do we, the people, get out of this as a "financial compensation
    for our great pain???
    Great! We are allowed to watch how self crowned capitalist overlords
    hoard unimaginable wealth at our detriment!

    So I'd say to you, Petz dear, just go back to your Goon Bag binge! At
    least that way you only cause harm to yourself while sparing any mental
    damage to other people's sanity.
    --
    |urd||g
    Your unforgetting and unforgiving newsgroup devil at your service
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.general,aus.politics on Sun Apr 26 11:41:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Sun, 26 Apr 2026 00:57:22 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    +rd%g

    *The Senate Inquiry the Gas Lobby Didn't Want*

    /Swollen Pickles, 24 Apr 2026/
    <https://youtu.be/5xDLO1SrkKI?si=693SSLZHq2OfTSAb>

    "Australia is one of the world's biggest gas exporters. You'd think
    that'd make us rich. It hasn't. This week a Senate inquiry took a hard
    look at exactly how much tax gas companies actually pay and more
    importantly, how much they don't."

    ~~~~ ~~~~

    Just about anything one hears in the political public domain from the
    fossil fuel/mining lobby are transparently unashamed lies.

    Australia is a natural resources rich country, yet our riches are not
    making this country rich...far from it.
    C'me on guys...if Norway could deal with this nonsense situation
    properly, why can't we?

    Why can't we force these corporation to pay their fair share towards
    benefiting all of us, nor just their already filthy rich robber barons
    owners?


    If Australia benefited from Gas, Oil, Coal exports it would create the
    reasoning why not add value to them by using it in Australia.

    So you admit that what the Coalition has been doing to Australia under
    their neo-liberal, robber baron free marketeering, sell out (AKA
    practically give away) most things in public property to their
    industrial mates. thereby following their ruthless capitalist
    ideological dogma for decades was a huge mistake?

    Suppose +rd%g see the sense...

    After all those years I have been telling the newsgroup where I stand on >econopolitical issues you, Petz dear, still have no fucking
    comprehension of my already ad nauseam stated position on most things.

    But then that is no surprise to anyone on this newsgroup. You do not
    read nor watch anything that might disagree even the slightest with your >alt-right blinkered view of the Universe. Instead of trying to
    comprehend those articles and videos I present to the newsgroup for >discussion, you simply falsify the attached links to point to your
    favourite alt-right cyber sewers in a pathetic attempt to undermine my >post's integrity.

    justifying carbon exports to be burnt
    in overseas countries, so the books show we have nothing to do with
    any proclaimed "carbon footprint"

    You would not be your horrible self, Petz dear, if you did not gleefully >misrepresented everything I really stand for.

    Given the very important nature of fossil-carbon resources for the long
    term future of chemical industries/manufacturing I find their brain dead >wastage for burning them for the generation of mega profits for ruling >capitalist upper class absolutely unjustifiable. We now do have
    technologies which can completely replace their usage as fuel (with the >possible exception of aviation). The bi-products of fossil fuel usage
    are fucking up our climate and cause environmental destruction as well
    as permanent damage to our collective human heath.
    And what do we, the people, get out of this as a "financial compensation
    for our great pain???
    Great! We are allowed to watch how self crowned capitalist overlords
    hoard unimaginable wealth at our detriment!

    So I'd say to you, Petz dear, just go back to your Goon Bag binge! At
    least that way you only cause harm to yourself while sparing any mental >damage to other people's sanity.

    There is no difference between Labor/Greens/Teals or Coalition
    Pauline Hanson's One Nation is where every vote is now going
    Whether her party will be any different remains to be seen?

    "Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists
    Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
    paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
    ThatAs the modern legislative business of parliament.
    When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
    countries we call it bribery.
    However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
    we call it lobbying.

    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-02-15/story-lab-one-nation-polling/106322978> Pauline HansonAs One Nation has seen the fastest polling rise in
    modern Australian politics. What is going on?
    --
    Petzl
    In a democracy of course you always get a choice
    Do you want to be governed by the red or by the blue
    itAs entirely up to you
    Do you want to be patronized or condescended to, by liars or by crooks you get to choose.
    Would you prefer your fundamental values to be insulted or ignored by con-men or by charlatans
    In short do you want your influence to be zero or nil
    and when would you like to be listened to, never or not at all, itAs your choice
    Do you want, some more choices.
    Take-it-or-leave-it
    Now thereAs a real choice
    we have proportional voting in Australia USE IT
    IAd be happy with any kind of representation wouldn't you

    I would like to see a new government and part of me doesn'tAgive a damn whoAs in it as long as it doesn'tAinclude anybody from the Labor, Liberal or Green party organizations that show itself to be without shame or principle

    All spineless and authoritarian both cowardly and war mongering at the same time
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.general,aus.politics on Sun Apr 26 04:58:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    |urd||g
    Petz
    |urd||g

    *The Senate Inquiry the Gas Lobby Didn't Want*
    /Swollen Pickles, 24 Apr 2026/
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjp_JYtL30Y>

    "Australia is one of the world's biggest gas exporters. You'd think
    that'd make us rich. It hasn't. This week a Senate inquiry took a hard >>>> look at exactly how much tax gas companies actually pay and more
    importantly, how much they don't."
    ~~~~ ~~~~

    Just about anything one hears in the political public domain from the
    fossil fuel/mining lobby are transparently unashamed lies.
    Australia is a natural resources rich country, yet our riches are not
    making this country rich...far from it.
    C'me on guys...if Norway could deal with this nonsense situation
    properly, why can't we?

    Why can't we force these corporation to pay their fair share towards
    benefiting all of us, nor just their already filthy rich robber barons >>>> owners?

    If Australia benefited from Gas, Oil, Coal exports it would create the
    reasoning why not add value to them by using it in Australia.

    So you admit that what the Coalition has been doing to Australia under
    their neo-liberal, robber baron free marketeering, sell out (AKA
    practically give away) most things in public property to their
    industrial mates. thereby following their ruthless capitalist
    ideological dogma for decades was a huge mistake?

    Suppose |urd||g see the sense...

    After all those years I have been telling the newsgroup where I stand on
    econopolitical issues you, Petz dear, still have no fucking
    comprehension of my already ad nauseam stated position on most things.

    But then that is no surprise to anyone on this newsgroup. You do not
    read nor watch anything that might disagree even the slightest with your
    alt-right blinkered view of the Universe. Instead of trying to
    comprehend those articles and videos I present to the newsgroup for
    discussion, you simply falsify the attached links to point to your
    favourite alt-right cyber sewers in a pathetic attempt to undermine my
    post's integrity.

    justifying carbon exports to be burnt
    in overseas countries, so the books show we have nothing to do with
    any proclaimed "carbon footprint"

    You would not be your horrible self, Petz dear, if you did not gleefully
    misrepresented everything I really stand for.

    Given the very important nature of fossil-carbon resources for the long
    term future of chemical industries/manufacturing I find their brain dead
    wastage of burning them for the generation of mega profits for ruling
    capitalist upper class absolutely unjustifiable. We now do have
    technologies which can completely replace their usage as fuel (with the
    possible exception of aviation). The bi-products of fossil fuel usage
    are fucking up our climate and cause environmental destruction as well
    as permanent damage to our collective human heath.
    And what do we, the people, get out of this as a "financial compensation
    for our great pain???
    Great! We are allowed to watch how self crowned capitalist overlords
    hoard unimaginable wealth at our detriment!

    So I'd say to you, Petz dear, just go back to your Goon Bag binge! At
    least that way you only cause harm to yourself while sparing any mental
    damage to other people's sanity.


    There is no difference between Labor/Greens/Teals or Coalition

    Bullshit! Your outright ignorance of domestic politics is staggering!

    Pauline Hanson's One Nation is where every vote is now going.

    Bullshit they do! Her lunatic party remains just as unelectable for the majority of Australians as it originally was before she obtained the
    most favoured Trump clone puppet status for the Murdoch owned media outlets.

    This is nothing more then your Goon Bag fumes induced al-right phantasm.
    ON is in fact even more beholden to those those robber baron
    billionaires than the Coalition or Labor, both financially and
    ideologically.

    /snip the rest of your UN-called for and clearly stupid pro-ON
    propaganda dump which seeks to sidestep the issues raised in my OP./

    Have another Goon Bag Pete dear instead of dumping even more fully
    retarded al-right propaganda crap.

    :-P
    --
    |urd||g
    Your relentless newsgroup devil at your service
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.general,aus.politics on Sun Apr 26 13:45:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On Sun, 26 Apr 2026 04:58:33 +0200, The Newsgroup Devil
    <Devil@Hell.biz> wrote:

    <https://youtu.be/5xDLO1SrkKI?si=693SSLZHq2OfTSAb>
    Welcome to Australia
    --
    Now under the commie troll name
    "The Newsgroup Devil"
    +rd%g the Armchair communist
    https://ibb.co/B2nG6Tb
    As Red as a tomato and nutritious as strychnine
    he is anti-system and anti-global capitalism.
    That is why his No1 purpose in life is to fight
    for mass immigration promoted by politicians and big business.
    He attacks working class resistance with bricks and eggs
    then go listen to a speech by the local MP about
    how great diversity is.
    He believes he is such a radical

    Communists View the Church as a Huge, Huge Firewall
    Against What They Want to Do
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.general,aus.politics on Sun Apr 26 14:07:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    There is no difference between Labor/Greens/Teals or Coalition
    More of your mindless bullshit
    Pauline Hanson's One Nation is where every vote is now going
    More of your mindless bullshit
    Whether her party will be any different remains to be seen?
    It has always been quite different but has never
    managed to get even a single MP elected to the
    only house that matters, the federal house of reps
    She may well get one in the Farrer by election due
    in just 2 weeks now given her candidate has promised
    a great raft of popularism and lots of the voter are too
    stupid and ignorant to realise that she has no chance
    of ever delivering any of those even tho both the Nats
    and Libs have stupidly preferenced her candidate
    "Our" Media and Major parties are run by lobbyists
    More of your mindless bullshit
    Lobbyists write the laws, parliament sells the laws,
    paid lucrative commissions for passing their laws.
    More of your mindless bullshit
    ThatrCOs the modern legislative business of parliament.
    More of your mindless bullshit
    When we talk about paying-off politicians in third-world
    countries we call it bribery.
    However, when we undertake the same process in parliament.
    we call it lobbying.
    More of your mindless bullshit
    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-02-15/story-lab-one-nation-polling/106322978>
    Pauline HansonrCOs One Nation has seen the fastest polling rise in
    modern Australian politics.
    What matters is whether she ever gets anything even
    remotely like enough seats in the federal HoR to matter
    What is going on?
    Just more stupid political piss and wind
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.general,aus.politics on Sun Apr 26 06:24:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/


    youtu.be

    Flush!

    Welcome to Australia

    You do not speak for Australia. In fact, you and deplorable ilk has
    never done so, Petz dear! :-P :-P :-P

    YAWN!
    --
    |urd||g
    Your somewhat bored newsgroup devil at your service
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to aus.general,aus.politics on Sun Apr 26 20:42:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    On 25/04/2026 8:04 am, The Newsgroup Devil wrote:
    *The Senate Inquiry the Gas Lobby Didn't Want*

    /Swollen Pickles, 24 Apr 2026/
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjp_JYtL30Y>

    "Australia is one of the world's biggest gas exporters. You'd think
    that'd make us rich. It hasn't. This week a Senate inquiry took a hard
    look at exactly how much tax gas companies actually pay and more importantly, how much they don't."

    ~~~~-a-a-a ~~~~

    I have wondered for a long time .... When we see one of those ships with
    the huge ball tanks sailing off to Asia/Europe/Wherever, how much have
    THEY paid per litre of Compressed Gas in those tanks. A couple of cents
    each maybe.

    Are WE our own worst enemies?? If Victoria brought all the gas that we
    need and THEN sold it off/distributed it, would we be better off??
    Rather than having lots of smaller companies buying little bits of Gas
    and THEN selling it off to us ... at a PROFIT to them.

    Same Same for NSW/SA/QLD/WA/Tas/whomever.

    Just a thought.
    --
    Daniel70
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.general,aus.politics on Mon Apr 27 02:45:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote
    The Newsgroup Devil wrote

    *The Senate Inquiry the Gas Lobby Didn't Want*
    /Swollen Pickles, 24 Apr 2026/
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjp_JYtL30Y>
    "Australia is one of the world's biggest gas exporters. You'd think
    that'd make us rich. It hasn't. This week a Senate inquiry took a hard
    look at exactly how much tax gas companies actually pay and more
    importantly, how much they don't."
    ~~~~ ~~~~

    I have wondered for a long time .... When we see one of those ships with the huge ball tanks sailing off to Asia/Europe/Wherever, how much have
    THEY paid per litre of Compressed Gas in those tanks. A couple of cents each maybe.

    They don't buy the gas, they are paid to move it

    Are WE our own worst enemies?? If Victoria brought all the gas thatwe need and THEN sold it off/distributed it, would we be better off??

    Nope. because the owners of the gas could charge what
    they like given Victoria would be competing with the
    countrys that currently have contracts with the gas suppliers

    Rather than having lots of smaller companies buying little bits of Gas

    That isnt what is happening currently

    and THEN selling it off to us ... at a PROFIT to them.

    Even Labor aint about to nationalise the gas

    Same Same for NSW/SA/QLD/WA/Tas/whomever.

    Just a thought.

    Its acually a steaming turd
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.general,aus.politics on Sun Apr 26 23:54:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    Daniel70
    |urd||g
    *The Senate Inquiry the Gas Lobby Didn't Want*

    /Swollen Pickles, 24 Apr 2026/
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjp_JYtL30Y>

    "Australia is one of the world's biggest gas exporters. You'd think
    that'd make us rich. It hasn't. This week a Senate inquiry took a hard
    look at exactly how much tax gas companies actually pay and more
    importantly, how much they don't."

    ~~~~-a-a-a ~~~~

    I have wondered for a long time .... When we see one of those ships with
    the huge ball tanks sailing off to Asia/Europe/Wherever, how much have
    THEY paid per litre of Compressed Gas in those tanks. A couple of cents
    each maybe.

    Are WE our own worst enemies?? If Victoria brought all the gas that we
    need and THEN sold it off/distributed it, would we be better off??
    Rather than having lots of smaller companies buying little bits of Gas
    and THEN selling it off to us ... at a PROFIT to them.

    Same Same for NSW/SA/QLD/WA/Tas/whomever.

    Just a thought.

    ... and a very valid one at that.

    The natural resources of Australia belongs to the people who live on
    this continent and not shady private enterprises. That is we why should
    first deal with the local demand and only *sell* for profit the surplus
    amount to other countries. Furthermore, I see absolutely no reason why Australians should have to pay world market pricing for stuff we already
    own.

    In my opinion all essential service sectors like energy supply should be
    in public hands (by that I do not necessarily mean that the sector have
    to be run by government bureaucrats). That is the only way to limit intolerable profiteering and large scale destruction/damage done to
    world's climate and our environment at a huge cost to the community by
    hard capitalist already billionaire crooks.

    Any eventual profits generated by this sector should be fully returned
    to the residents of this continent by supporting local infrastructure
    and social services. If Norway could do it why can't we? Full stop.
    --
    |urd||g
    Your on duty newsgroup devil at your service
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The Newsgroup Devil@Devil@Hell.biz to aus.general,aus.politics on Mon Apr 27 00:28:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.politics

    # /This is a reply to pre-filtered & auto edited post/
    # /All quoted inputs by kill-file residents have been expunged/

    Alzheimer Rod's hard capitalist wanker crap
    Daniel70
    +rd%g
    *The Senate Inquiry the Gas Lobby Didn't Want*
    a/Swollen Pickles, 24 Apr 2026/
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjp_JYtL30Y>
    a"Australia is one of the world's biggest gas exporters. You'd think
    that'd make us rich. It hasn't. This week a Senate inquiry took a
    hard look at exactly how much tax gas companies actually pay and more
    importantly, how much they don't."
    a~~~~aaa ~~~~

    I have wondered for a long time .... When we see one of those ships
    with the huge ball tanks sailing off to Asia/Europe/Wherever, how much
    have THEY paid per litre of Compressed Gas in those tanks. A couple of
    cents each maybe.

    They don't buy the gas, they are paid to move it

    Pathetic non-argument!

    Are WE our own worst enemies?? If Victoria brought all the gas
    that we need and THEN sold it off/distributed it, would we be better
    off??

    Nope. because the owners of the gas

    The real owners of the gas are the Australian people.
    One should not pay for a substance one already owns.
    The only payment that is justifiable should be for recovering the cost
    of extraction of the resource and the upkeep of delivery facilities for
    the users.

    could charge what
    they like given Victoria would be competing with the
    countrys that currently have contracts with the gas suppliers

    That is a fully idiotic system which was designed by neo-liberal free(?) marketeering hard capitalist crooks in order to stuff their own 'pocketses'!


    Rather than having lots of smaller companies buying little bits of Gas

    That isnt what is happening currently

    Sure. And that lies at the core of the current mess. Special thanks goes
    for it to previous Coalition governments' destructive sociopath
    activities. They have never really cared about the people. Profits for
    the mates first and then treat everything else as pesky annoyance.

    and THEN selling it off to us ... at a PROFIT to them.

    Even Labor aint about to nationalise the gas

    The reason for it is clear ... Labor has firmly established itself as a
    party of the capitalist centre-right.

    We are seeing the consequences of *not having* any significant Leftist
    input into the governance of Australia in order to keep things socially
    and economically well balanced.
    Oh, the delights of our neo-liberal hard capitalist reality.

    Same Same for NSW/SA/QLD/WA/Tas/whomever.
    Just a thought.

    acually a steaming turd

    ...is what you Alzheimer spew about all other posters in the newsgroup.
    This is your typical anger management disaster ego maniac verbal vomit
    output, as per usual. :-P
    --
    +rd%g
    Your unfriendly newsgroup devil at your service
    --- Synchronet 3.21f-Linux NewsLink 1.2