• Re: the (alleged) Mushroom murderer

    From Mr Jesse J Bruce@manager@jjb.id.au to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Sat Jul 26 16:16:04 2025
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    Peter Jason wrote:
    On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 14:14:30 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
    MightyMouse wrote

    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about? >>>> has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it was >>>> just a 'terrible accident'? and the judge wasn't helping with his
    instructions to the jury which were (in essence) that her lies don't
    matter.

    We've seen plenty of TV dramas where an innocent person inculpates
    themself by seeking to hide evidence that might tend to make them look
    guilty even though they're not.

    Now, of course, they are TV dramas, not real life, but they raisethe
    question of whether someone could behave that way in reality.

    We know that does happen in reality in other trials, including the
    one where the airline pilot shot two individuals in the alpine forests
    in victoria and tried that route to get away with it and failed to do that >>
    How sure can we be that the accused in this case has not done that?

    Certain given that she deliberately didnt poison herself or her kids

    And remember, the task for the jury is to find guilt beyond reasonable
    doubt.

    I'm glad I'm not on that jury.

    I'm not, I would convince the fools to find her guilty because that is
    what she is

    And poison has always been a woman's way; throughout history.

    poison only comes from something dead,ask the natives
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  • From squeak!@"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Tue Jul 1 11:12:47 2025
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    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about?
    has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it was
    just a 'terrible accident'? and the judge wasn't helping with his
    instructions to the jury which were (in essence) that her lies don't matter.
    --
    Always tell the truth,
    there's less to remember!

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Tue Jul 1 12:09:19 2025
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    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote

    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about?

    About whether it is beyond reasonable doubt that she killed them
    deliberately

    has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it was
    just a 'terrible accident'?

    And why she told so many lies and tried to wipe her phone
    remotely three times after the cops had grabbed it.

    and the judge wasn't helping with his instructions to the jury which
    were (inessence) that her lies don't matter.

    Yep, he is a terminal fuckwit

    Presumably that stupidity has fooled some of the jury
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  • From Sylvia Else@sylvia@email.invalid to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Tue Jul 1 11:37:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.legal

    On 01-July-25 9:12 am, MightyMouse wrote:

    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about?
    has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it was
    just a 'terrible accident'? and the judge wasn't helping with his instructions to the jury which were (in essence) that her lies don't
    matter.


    We've seen plenty of TV dramas where an innocent person inculpates
    themself by seeking to hide evidence that might tend to make them look
    guilty even though they're not.

    Now, of course, they are TV dramas, not real life, but they raise the
    question of whether someone could behave that way in reality.

    How sure can we be that the accused in this case has not done that?

    And remember, the task for the jury is to find guilt beyond reasonable
    doubt.

    I'm glad I'm not on that jury.

    Sylvia.


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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Tue Jul 1 14:14:30 2025
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    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
    MightyMouse wrote

    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about?
    has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it was
    just a 'terrible accident'? and the judge wasn't helping with his
    instructions to the jury which were (in essence) that her lies don't
    matter.

    We've seen plenty of TV dramas where an innocent person inculpates
    themself by seeking to hide evidence that might tend to make them look guilty even though they're not.

    Now, of course, they are TV dramas, not real life, but they raisethe question of whether someone could behave that way in reality.

    We know that does happen in reality in other trials, including the
    one where the airline pilot shot two individuals in the alpine forests
    in victoria and tried that route to get away with it and failed to do that

    How sure can we be that the accused in this case has not done that?

    Certain given that she deliberately didnt poison herself or her kids

    And remember, the task for the jury is to find guilt beyond reasonable doubt.

    I'm glad I'm not on that jury.

    I'm not, I would convince the fools to find her guilty because that is
    what she is
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  • From squeak!@"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Tue Jul 1 16:40:43 2025
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    Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 01-July-25 9:12 am, MightyMouse wrote:

    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate
    about? has she now told enough lies in court to con them into
    thinking it was just a 'terrible accident'? and the judge wasn't
    helping with his instructions to the jury which were (in essence)
    that her lies don't matter.


    We've seen plenty of TV dramas where an innocent person inculpates
    themself by seeking to hide evidence that might tend to make them look guilty even though they're not.

    Now, of course, they are TV dramas, not real life, but they raise the question of whether someone could behave that way in reality.

    How sure can we be that the accused in this case has not done that?

    And remember, the task for the jury is to find guilt beyond reasonable doubt.

    yes, and it's reasonable there's no doubt she's guilty..

    1. she was the only person who didn't get sick from eating the wellingtons
    2. she prepared the meals, and declined help in doing so
    3. her meal was on a separate plate to identify it
    4. she had researched poisonous mushroom locations on her computer
    5. she had been to those locations
    6. she claimed she got the mushrooms from an Asian grocery, but couldn't
    say where it was despite being familiar with the area
    7. she claimed she got sick too but the hospital found nothing wrong
    with her
    8. she bought a food processor prior to preparing the meal, and
    destroyed it soon afterwards
    9. she destroyed her phone after the police commenced their investigation
    10. she lied about having cancer to get the relatives to come to the dinner
    11. she lied to the police on numerous occasions
    12. probably other things too i've missed


    I'm glad I'm not on that jury.

    I'm glad you're not too. have fun explaining how the poisoning could
    have been accidental given that the meals were all prepared from the
    same ingredients and she was the only person who never got poisoned?


    Sylvia.


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  • From squeak!@"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Tue Jul 1 16:52:24 2025
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    Rod Speed wrote:
    MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote

    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about?

    About whether it is beyond reasonable doubt that she killed them deliberately

    I was suggesting there is no doubt


    has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it
    was just a 'terrible accident'?

    And why she told so many lies and tried to wipe her phone
    remotely three times after the cops had grabbed it.

    I didn't know that. and that was a newer phone. the phone she had been
    using has never been found


    and the judge wasn't helping with his instructions to the jury which
    were (in essence) that her lies don'ta matter.

    Yep, he is a terminal fuckwit

    Presumably that stupidity has fooled some of the jury

    yes
    --
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    there's less to remember!

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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Fri Jul 4 12:02:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.legal

    On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 11:37:08 +0800, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 01-July-25 9:12 am, MightyMouse wrote:

    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about?
    has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it was
    just a 'terrible accident'? and the judge wasn't helping with his
    instructions to the jury which were (in essence) that her lies don't
    matter.


    We've seen plenty of TV dramas where an innocent person inculpates
    themself by seeking to hide evidence that might tend to make them look >guilty even though they're not.

    Now, of course, they are TV dramas, not real life, but they raise the >question of whether someone could behave that way in reality.

    How sure can we be that the accused in this case has not done that?

    And remember, the task for the jury is to find guilt beyond reasonable >doubt.

    I'm glad I'm not on that jury.

    Sylvia.


    TV dramas & much else have brainwashed the population into false
    expectations on almost everything.
    Good people are attractive,
    Bad people are ugly and sport all sorts of tics.
    Everyone drives the latest cars, and all dwellings are spick and span, containing wives with no blemishes.

    And where was populism born?
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Fri Jul 4 12:03:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.legal

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 14:14:30 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
    MightyMouse wrote

    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about? >>> has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it was >>> just a 'terrible accident'? and the judge wasn't helping with his
    instructions to the jury which were (in essence) that her lies don't
    matter.

    We've seen plenty of TV dramas where an innocent person inculpates
    themself by seeking to hide evidence that might tend to make them look
    guilty even though they're not.

    Now, of course, they are TV dramas, not real life, but they raisethe
    question of whether someone could behave that way in reality.

    We know that does happen in reality in other trials, including the
    one where the airline pilot shot two individuals in the alpine forests
    in victoria and tried that route to get away with it and failed to do that

    How sure can we be that the accused in this case has not done that?

    Certain given that she deliberately didnt poison herself or her kids

    And remember, the task for the jury is to find guilt beyond reasonable
    doubt.

    I'm glad I'm not on that jury.

    I'm not, I would convince the fools to find her guilty because that is
    what she is

    And poison has always been a woman's way; throughout history.
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Fri Jul 4 12:06:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.legal

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 14:14:30 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
    MightyMouse wrote

    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about? >>> has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it was >>> just a 'terrible accident'? and the judge wasn't helping with his
    instructions to the jury which were (in essence) that her lies don't
    matter.

    We've seen plenty of TV dramas where an innocent person inculpates
    themself by seeking to hide evidence that might tend to make them look
    guilty even though they're not.

    Now, of course, they are TV dramas, not real life, but they raisethe
    question of whether someone could behave that way in reality.

    We know that does happen in reality in other trials, including the
    one where the airline pilot shot two individuals in the alpine forests
    in victoria and tried that route to get away with it and failed to do that

    How sure can we be that the accused in this case has not done that?

    Certain given that she deliberately didnt poison herself or her kids

    And remember, the task for the jury is to find guilt beyond reasonable
    doubt.

    I'm glad I'm not on that jury.

    I'm not, I would convince the fools to find her guilty because that is
    what she is

    How soon before a hung jury?
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Fri Jul 4 14:51:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.legal

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
    MightyMouse wrote

    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about?
    has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it was
    just a 'terrible accident'? and the judge wasn't helping with his
    instructions to the jury which were (in essence) that her lies don't
    matter.

    We've seen plenty of TV dramas where an innocent person inculpates
    themself by seeking to hide evidence that might tend to make them look
    guilty even though they're not.

    Now, of course, they are TV dramas, not real life, but they raise the
    question of whether someone could behave that way in reality.

    How sure can we be that the accused in this case has not done that?

    And remember, the task for the jury is to find guilt beyond reasonable
    doubt.

    I'm glad I'm not on that jury.

    TV dramas & much else have brainwashed the populationinto false expectations on almost everything.

    That almost everything is overstated

    Good people are attractive,
    Bad people are ugly and sport all sorts of tics.
    Everyone drives the latest cars, and all dwellings are spick and span, containing wives with no blemishes.

    And where was populism born?

    If was around LONG before and TV drama or
    even newspapers and even before the romans
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Fri Jul 4 14:54:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.legal

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
    MightyMouse wrote

    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about? >>>> has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it was >>>> just a 'terrible accident'? and the judge wasn't helping with his
    instructions to the jury which were (in essence) that her lies don't
    matter.

    We've seen plenty of TV dramas where an innocent person inculpates
    themself by seeking to hide evidence that might tend to make them look
    guilty even though they're not.

    Now, of course, they are TV dramas, not real life, but they raisethe
    question of whether someone could behave that way in reality.

    We know that does happen in reality in other trials, including the
    one where the airline pilot shot two individuals in the alpine forests
    in victoria and tried that route to get away with it and failed to do
    that

    How sure can we be that the accused in this case has not done that?

    Certain given that she deliberately didnt poison herself or her kids

    And remember, the task for the jury is to find guilt beyond reasonable
    doubt.

    I'm glad I'm not on that jury.

    I'm not, I would convince the fools to find her guilty because that is
    what she is

    And poison has always been a woman's way; throughout history.

    Indeed, which isnt surprising given that they are generally
    weaker than most men and mostly do the food preparation
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Fri Jul 4 14:59:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.legal

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
    MightyMouse wrote

    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about? >>>> has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it was >>>> just a 'terrible accident'? and the judge wasn't helping with his
    instructions to the jury which were (in essence) that her lies don't
    matter.

    We've seen plenty of TV dramas where an innocent person inculpates
    themself by seeking to hide evidence that might tend to make them look
    guilty even though they're not.

    Now, of course, they are TV dramas, not real life, but they raisethe
    question of whether someone could behave that way in reality.

    We know that does happen in reality in other trials, including the
    one where the airline pilot shot two individuals in the alpine forests
    in victoria and tried that route to get away with it and failed to do
    that

    How sure can we be that the accused in this case has not done that?

    Certain given that she deliberately didnt poison herself or her kids

    And remember, the task for the jury is to find guilt beyond reasonable
    doubt.

    I'm glad I'm not on that jury.

    I'm not, I would convince the fools to find her guilty because that is
    what she is

    How soon before a hung jury?

    Hard to predict the timescale with any jury
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  • From squeak!@"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Fri Jul 4 16:11:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: aus.legal

    Peter Jason wrote:
    On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 14:14:30 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
    MightyMouse wrote
    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about? >>>> has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it was >>>> just a 'terrible accident'? and the judge wasn't helping with his
    instructions to the jury which were (in essence) that her lies don't
    matter.
    We've seen plenty of TV dramas where an innocent person inculpates
    themself by seeking to hide evidence that might tend to make them look
    guilty even though they're not.
    Now, of course, they are TV dramas, not real life, but they raisethe
    question of whether someone could behave that way in reality.
    We know that does happen in reality in other trials, including the
    one where the airline pilot shot two individuals in the alpine forests
    in victoria and tried that route to get away with it and failed to do that >>
    How sure can we be that the accused in this case has not done that?
    Certain given that she deliberately didnt poison herself or her kids

    And remember, the task for the jury is to find guilt beyond reasonable
    doubt.
    I'm glad I'm not on that jury.
    I'm not, I would convince the fools to find her guilty because that is
    what she is
    And poison has always been a woman's way; throughout history.

    that's true!
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  • From squeak!@"squeak!"@cheesefactory.com to aus.cars,aus.computers,aus.legal on Fri Jul 4 16:18:16 2025
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    Peter Jason wrote:
    On Tue, 01 Jul 2025 14:14:30 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
    MightyMouse wrote
    The jury is still deliberating, but what is there to deliberate about? >>>> has she now told enough lies in court to con them into thinking it was >>>> just a 'terrible accident'? and the judge wasn't helping with his
    instructions to the jury which were (in essence) that her lies don't
    matter.
    We've seen plenty of TV dramas where an innocent person inculpates
    themself by seeking to hide evidence that might tend to make them look
    guilty even though they're not.
    Now, of course, they are TV dramas, not real life, but they raisethe
    question of whether someone could behave that way in reality.
    We know that does happen in reality in other trials, including the
    one where the airline pilot shot two individuals in the alpine forests
    in victoria and tried that route to get away with it and failed to do that >>
    How sure can we be that the accused in this case has not done that?
    Certain given that she deliberately didnt poison herself or her kids

    And remember, the task for the jury is to find guilt beyond reasonable
    doubt.
    I'm glad I'm not on that jury.
    I'm not, I would convince the fools to find her guilty because that is
    what she is
    How soon before a hung jury?

    not long now I suspect. third day of delibs isn't it? I suspect her
    defence has done their job well, and the idiot judge, and of course all
    her lies, and they're all hung up on 'reasonable doubt'. what they
    should be thinking tho is how is it reasonable to believe it was
    accidental, because there's no way it could have been.
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