After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
John_H wrote
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
Can you use a Ni-MH battery in it?
Will the in-built charging system suffice for a Ni-MH battery?
I generally replace like for like in those circumstances and use NiCad
to replace NiCad. That said, I had a triple set of those phones and it
was cheaper to buy a new set of *phones* than bother with a set of 3 batteries. Yes, they were all on the way out.
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsungmobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
On 31/07/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
**If the 'phone was designed to use NiCad batteries, then that is what
you should use. NiCad and NiMh batteries have different charging >requirements.
John_H <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
Ni-MH.
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
About the same time again.
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsungmobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
But that is a Li ion battery so quite different.
On 31/7/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phoneCan you use a Ni-MH battery in it?
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
Will the in-built charging system suffice for a Ni-MH battery?
I generally replace like for like in those circumstances and use NiCad to replace NiCad.--
That said, I had a triple set of those phones and it was cheaper to buy a new set of
*phones* than bother with a set of 3 batteries. Yes, they were all on the way out.
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
John_H wrote
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
Can you use a Ni-MH battery in it?
You can with most Panasonics.
--Will the in-built charging system suffice for a Ni-MH battery?
It is with Panasonics that are designed to take either.
I generally replace like for like in those circumstances and use NiCad
to replace NiCad. That said, I had a triple set of those phones and it
was cheaper to buy a new set of *phones* than bother with a set of 3
batteries. Yes, they were all on the way out.
I always got cordless phones with standard AA batterys, so that never >happened with those.
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 31/07/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
**If the 'phone was designed to use NiCad batteries, then that is what
you should use. NiCad and NiMh batteries have different charging
requirements.
It predates Ni-MH but both are cuurently available as replacements.
It's the differences in the charging systems that concern but I'm
unsure as to whether it really matters.
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 31/07/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
**If the 'phone was designed to use NiCad batteries, then that is what
you should use. NiCad and NiMh batteries have different charging
requirements.
It predates Ni-MH but both are cuurently available as replacements.
It's the differences in the charging systems that concern but I'm
unsure as to whether it really matters.
On 1/08/2022 7:54 am, John_H wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 31/07/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
**If the 'phone was designed to use NiCad batteries, then that is what
you should use. NiCad and NiMh batteries have different charging
requirements.
It predates Ni-MH but both are cuurently available as replacements.
It's the differences in the charging systems that concern but I'm
unsure as to whether it really matters.
**It can matter. Use NiCads.
Trevor Wilson wrote
John_H wrote
Trevor Wilson wrote
John_H wrote
whatAfter 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
**If the 'phone was designed to use NiCad batteries, then that is
you should use. NiCad and NiMh batteries have different charging
requirements.
It predates Ni-MH but both are cuurently available as replacements.
It's the differences in the charging systems that concern but I'm
unsure as to whether it really matters.
It can matter. Use NiCads.
Shame how they are banned from retail sale over most of the world.
Cadmium is toxic and persistent in the environment.
Even CdS photo cells are banned in the EU etc.
Trevor Wilson wrote:
=================
On 1/08/2022 7:54 am, John_H wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:**It can matter. Use NiCads.
On 31/07/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile >>>>> which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
**If the 'phone was designed to use NiCad batteries, then that is what >>>> you should use. NiCad and NiMh batteries have different charging
requirements.
It predates Ni-MH but both are cuurently available as replacements.
It's the differences in the charging systems that concern but I'm
unsure as to whether it really matters.
** Shame how they are banned from retail sale over most of the world.
Cadmium is toxic and persistent in the environment.
Even CdS photo cells are banned in the EU etc.
On 31/07/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement).-a The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
**If the 'phone was designed to use NiCad batteries, then that is what
you should use. NiCad and NiMh batteries have different charging requirements.
It can matter. Use NiCads.
Shame how they are banned from retail sale over most of the world.
Cadmium is toxic and persistent in the environment.
Bullshit they are and they clearly aren't banned here and that's what matters.
Even CdS photo cells are banned in the EU etc.
Irrelevant to what John should use.
**It can matter. Use NiCads.
** Shame how they are banned from retail sale over most of the world. Cadmium is toxic and persistent in the environment.
Even CdS photo cells are banned in the EU etc.
**WES stock some of the best NiCads available (Sanyo).
CDS cells are also available from a number of sources in Australia.
The EU does some weird shit,
Rod Speed wrote
It can matter. Use NiCads.
Shame how they are banned from retail sale over most of the world.
Cadmium is toxic and persistent in the environment.
Bullshit they are and they clearly aren't banned here and that's what
matters.
But we do not make them here
and few companies make them at all now.
New products do NOT use them, they are 100% OBSOLETE !!!
Even CdS photo cells are banned in the EU etc.
Irrelevant to what John should use.
Massively relevant to finding any.
Trevor Wilson wrote
It can matter. Use NiCads.
Shame how they are banned from retail sale over most of the world.
Cadmium is toxic and persistent in the environment.
Even CdS photo cells are banned in the EU etc.
WES stock some of the best NiCads available (Sanyo).
So fucking what ?
FYI:
Sanyo AA NiCds do not work my Canon camera - at all.
Any NiMH AA works just fine.
CDS cells are also available from a number of sources in Australia.
So fucking what ?
The EU does some weird shit,
And controls at least half the world's marketplace.
On 01-Aug-22 7:54 am, John_H wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 31/07/2022 10:12 am, John_H wrote:
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
**If the 'phone was designed to use NiCad batteries, then that is what
you should use. NiCad and NiMh batteries have different charging
requirements.
It predates Ni-MH but both are cuurently available as replacements.
It's the differences in the charging systems that concern but I'm
unsure as to whether it really matters.
If it predates NiMH, then it's unlikely to be designed to charge them >properly.
Stick with what's known to work.
Sylvia Else wrote
John_H wrote
Trevor Wilson wrote
John_H wrote
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current >>>>> options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile >>>>> which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
**If the 'phone was designed to use NiCad batteries, then that is what >>>> you should use. NiCad and NiMh batteries have different charging
requirements.
It predates Ni-MH but both are cuurently available as replacements.
It's the differences in the charging systems that concern but I'm
unsure as to whether it really matters.
If it predates NiMH, then it's unlikely to be designed to charge them
properly.
Stick with what's known to work.
I failed to mention that the nicad is twice the price but there's also
a possibility they'll no longer be available further down the track.
Nor do I want the hassle of replacing the phone as the cradle is
screwed to the wall.
Consequently I've decided to stick with nicad and hope it lasts
another 15 years..
Thanks to all who replied.
I failed to mention that the nicad is twice the price
but there's also
a possibility they'll no longer be available further down the track.
Nor do I want the hassle of replacing the phone as the cradle is
screwed to the wall.
Consequently I've decided to stick with nicad and hope it lasts
another 15 years..
John_H wrote:
Consequently I've decided to stick with nicad and hope it lasts
another 15 years..
** Wot an pie eyed optimist.
Any NiCds you buy today are likely to be old stock - up to 10 years old.
John_H wrote
I failed to mention that the nicad is twice the price
** You never mentioned what size: AA, AAA or button cell pack ?
but there's also
a possibility they'll no longer be available further down the track.
Very few made any more.
Nor do I want the hassle of replacing the phone as the cradle is
screwed to the wall.
Poor diddums.
Consequently I've decided to stick with nicad and hope it lasts
another 15 years..
Wot an pie eyed optimist.
Any NiCds you buy today are likely to be old stock - up to 10 years old.--- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
John_H wrote:
============
I failed to mention that the nicad is twice the price
** You never mentioned what size: AA, AAA or button cell pack ?
but there's also
a possibility they'll no longer be available further down the track.
** Very few made any more.
Nor do I want the hassle of replacing the phone as the cradle is
screwed to the wall.
** Poor diddums.
Consequently I've decided to stick with nicad and hope it lasts
another 15 years..
** Wot an pie eyed optimist.
Any NiCds you buy today are likely to be old stock - up to 10 years old.
Any NiCds you buy today are likely to be old stock - up to 10 years old. Dunno about that, Wes still list Japanese nicad cells (Sanyo orPanasonic) although that may cease at any time in the future.
Not sure that age matters much either as they seem to last forever
until the first charge.
John_H wrote:
============
Any NiCds you buy today are likely to be old stock - up to 10 years old.Dunno about that, Wes still list Japanese nicad cells (Sanyo or
Panasonic) although that may cease at any time in the future.
Not sure that age matters much either as they seem to last forever
until the first charge.
** Absurd crap.
NiCds do not usually have a long shelf life.
They corrode and leak if allowed to go flat.
Just like Alkaline cells do.
Any NiCds you buy today are likely to be old stock - up to 10 years old. >> Dunno about that, Wes still list Japanese nicad cells (Sanyo orPanasonic) although that may cease at any time in the future.
Not sure that age matters much either as they seem to last forever
until the first charge.
** Absurd crap.
NiCds do not usually have a long shelf life.
They corrode and leak if allowed to go flat.
Just like Alkaline cells do.
Why don't the 10 year old ones leak?
Why don't the 10 year old ones leak?** They fucking do !!
I have seen may items destroyed by leaking NiCds, including some of my own.
John_H wrote:
============
old.
Any NiCds you buy today are likely to be old stock - up to 10 years
Dunno about that, Wes still list Japanese nicad cells (Sanyo or
Panasonic) although that may cease at any time in the future.
Not sure that age matters much either as they seem to last forever
until the first charge.
** Absurd crap.
NiCds do not usually have a long shelf life.
They corrode and leak if allowed to go flat.
Just like Alkaline cells do.
Why don't the 10 year old ones leak?
They fucking do !!
I have seen may items destroyed by leaking NiCds, including some of my
own.
FYI I do electronics repair for a living.
After 15 or so years the nicad battery in our 30y.o. portable phone
has chucked it in (it's only ever had one replacement). The current
options are nicad or Ni-MH.
Which way should I go?
If Ni-MH how long is it likely to last?
I only get around 4 years between replacements with a Samsung mobile
which presumably has a smart charger, hence the question.
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