• OpenAI hacks Medicare

    From Nomen Nescio@nobody@dizum.com to aus.politics,aus.computers on Thu Sep 24 03:30:24 2026
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    AI servers don't kill people
    people kill people
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  • From not@not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) to aus.politics,aus.computers on Fri Sep 25 08:57:13 2026
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    From OpenAI's statement:
    "Our review found no evidence of patient records being accessed.
    The information accessed included aggregate health statistics
    and internal file names."

    "We notified the organisations and are providing technical
    information to support their investigations and help address
    potential security vulnerabilities" https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/ai-agent-accessed-australian-government-site-pm-says/107189078

    "The government on Thursday launched a taskforce to investigate and
    assess gaps in Australia's existing laws around reporting
    requirements, enforcement, and cyber protections.

    It is also investigating if the OpenAI incident broke any
    Australian laws, though government sources said the initial view
    was that this was unlikely." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-25/openai-breach-builds-case-for-tough-ai-rules/107192992

    Sounds like the AI just guessed some URLs that aren't linked from
    public pages, and got to see pages and directories that were really
    public in a technical sense anyway (not password protected by the
    server software).

    In that case it's not really a hack at all - just incompetent
    configuration of the website which a human attacker would have
    easily found too if they saw a real motive to work on something as
    boring as a statistics "portal".

    No surprise the government is covering up this incompetance, which
    OpenAI highlighted to them, by beating their chest about the new
    powers of AI and boasting new regulations that are likely to be as
    weak as their websites.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.computers,aus.cars on Fri Sep 25 09:27:53 2026
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    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote

    From OpenAI's statement
    "Our review found no evidence of patient records being accessed.
    The information accessed included aggregate health statistics
    and internal file names."

    "We notified the organisations and are providing technical
    information to support their investigations and help address
    potential security vulnerabilities" https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/ai-agent-accessed-australian-government-site-pm-says/107189078

    "The government on Thursday launched a taskforce to investigate and
    assess gaps in Australia's existing laws around reporting
    requirements, enforcement, and cyber protections.

    It is also investigating if the OpenAI incident broke any
    Australian laws, though government sources said the initial view
    was that this was unlikely." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-25/openai-breach-builds-case-for-tough-ai-rules/107192992

    Sounds like the AI just guessed some URLs that aren't linked from
    public pages, and got to see pages and directories that were really
    public in a technical sense anyway (not password protected by the
    server software).

    Yep

    In that case it's not really a hack at all - just incompetent
    configuration of the website

    Nothing incompetent give that data was always
    intended for professional medical research and
    not intended to be available to the general public

    which a human attacker would have
    easily found too if they saw a real motive to work on something as
    boring as a statistics "portal".

    No surprise the government is covering up this incompetance,

    There is no incompetence

    which
    OpenAI highlighted to them, by beating their chest about the new
    powers of AI and boasting new regulations that are likely to be as
    weak as their websites.
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  • From Keithr0@nothing.to.see@here.com.au to aus.politics,aus.computers on Fri Sep 25 17:54:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On 25/09/2026 8:57 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    From OpenAI's statement:
    "Our review found no evidence of patient records being accessed.
    The information accessed included aggregate health statistics
    and internal file names."

    "We notified the organisations and are providing technical
    information to support their investigations and help address
    potential security vulnerabilities" https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/ai-agent-accessed-australian-government-site-pm-says/107189078

    "The government on Thursday launched a taskforce to investigate and
    assess gaps in Australia's existing laws around reporting
    requirements, enforcement, and cyber protections.

    It is also investigating if the OpenAI incident broke any
    Australian laws, though government sources said the initial view
    was that this was unlikely." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-25/openai-breach-builds-case-for-tough-ai-rules/107192992

    Sounds like the AI just guessed some URLs that aren't linked from
    public pages, and got to see pages and directories that were really
    public in a technical sense anyway (not password protected by the
    server software).

    In that case it's not really a hack at all - just incompetent
    configuration of the website which a human attacker would have
    easily found too if they saw a real motive to work on something as
    boring as a statistics "portal".

    No surprise the government is covering up this incompetance, which
    OpenAI highlighted to them, by beating their chest about the new
    powers of AI and boasting new regulations that are likely to be as
    weak as their websites.

    The point is that the "AI" was not supposed to go beyond publicly
    available information, but decided of it's own accord to do so.

    Similarly when it hacked into Hugging Face.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.computers on Fri Sep 25 19:22:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
    Computer Nerd Kev wrote

    From OpenAI's statement
    "Our review found no evidence of patient records being accessed.
    The information accessed included aggregate health statistics
    and internal file names."

    "We notified the organisations and are providing technical
    information to support their investigations and help address
    potential security vulnerabilities"

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/ai-agent-accessed-australian-government-site-pm-says/107189078
    "The government on Thursday launched a taskforce to investigate and
    assess gaps in Australia's existing laws around reporting
    requirements, enforcement, and cyber protections.
    It is also investigating if the OpenAI incident broke any
    Australian laws, though government sources said the initial view
    was that this was unlikely."

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-25/openai-breach-builds-case-for-tough-ai-rules/107192992
    Sounds like the AI just guessed some URLs that aren't linked from
    public pages, and got to see pages and directories that were really
    public in a technical sense anyway (not password protected by the
    server software).

    In that case it's not really a hack at all - just incompetent
    configuration of the website which a human attacker would have
    easily found too if they saw a real motive to work on something as
    boring as a statistics "portal".

    No surprise the government is covering up this incompetance, which
    OpenAI highlighted to them, by beating their chest about the new
    powers of AI and boasting new regulations that are likely to be as
    weak as their websites.

    The point is that the "AI" was not supposed to go beyond publicly
    available information,

    BULLSHIT

    but decided of it's own accord to do so.

    Nope, because that's what AI does

    Similarly when it hacked into Hugging Face.

    Nothing to do with your stupid claim about publicly available info
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  • From Keithr0@nothing.to.see@here.com.au to aus.politics,aus.computers on Fri Sep 25 22:10:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On 25/09/2026 7:22 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
    Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
    Computer Nerd Kev wrote

    -aFrom OpenAI's statement
    "Our review found no evidence of patient records being accessed.
    -a The information accessed included aggregate health statistics
    -a and internal file names."

    -a"We notified the organisations and are providing technical
    -a information to support their investigations and help address
    -a potential security vulnerabilities"

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/ai-agent-accessed-australian-
    government-site-pm-says/107189078
    -a"The government on Thursday launched a taskforce to investigate and
    -a assess gaps in Australia's existing laws around reporting
    -a requirements, enforcement, and cyber protections.
    -a-a It is also investigating if the OpenAI incident broke any
    -a Australian laws, though government sources said the initial view
    -a was that this was unlikely."

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-25/openai-breach-builds-case-for-
    tough-ai-rules/107192992
    -aSounds like the AI just guessed some URLs that aren't linked from
    public pages, and got to see pages and directories that were really
    public in a technical sense anyway (not password protected by the
    server software).

    In that case it's not really a hack at all - just incompetent
    configuration of the website which a human attacker would have
    easily found too if they saw a real motive to work on something as
    boring as a statistics "portal".

    No surprise the government is covering up this incompetance, which
    OpenAI highlighted to them, by beating their chest about the new

    powers of AI and boasting new regulations that are likely to be as
    weak as their websites.

    The point is that the "AI" was not supposed to go beyond publicly
    available information,

    BULLSHIT

    but decided of it's own accord to do so.

    Nope, because that's what AI does

    Similarly when it hacked into Hugging Face.

    Nothing to do with your stupid claim about publicly available info
    It was supposed to get information by normal means, it didn't, it hacked
    the site. I was not told to do that.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.computers on Sat Sep 26 02:28:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
    Computer Nerd Kev wrote

    From OpenAI's statement
    "Our review found no evidence of patient records being accessed.
    The information accessed included aggregate health statistics
    and internal file names."

    "We notified the organisations and are providing technical
    information to support their investigations and help address
    potential security vulnerabilities"

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/ai-agent-accessed-australian- >>>> government-site-pm-says/107189078
    "The government on Thursday launched a taskforce to investigate and
    assess gaps in Australia's existing laws around reporting
    requirements, enforcement, and cyber protections.
    It is also investigating if the OpenAI incident broke any
    Australian laws, though government sources said the initial view
    was that this was unlikely."

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-25/openai-breach-builds-case-for- >>>> tough-ai-rules/107192992
    Sounds like the AI just guessed some URLs that aren't linked from
    public pages, and got to see pages and directories that were really
    public in a technical sense anyway (not password protected by the
    server software).

    In that case it's not really a hack at all - just incompetent
    configuration of the website which a human attacker would have
    easily found too if they saw a real motive to work on something as
    boring as a statistics "portal".

    No surprise the government is covering up this incompetance, which
    OpenAI highlighted to them, by beating their chest about the new

    powers of AI and boasting new regulations that are likely to be as
    weak as their websites.

    The point is that the "AI" was not supposed to go beyond publicly
    available information,

    BULLSHIT

    but decided of it's own accord to do so.

    Nope, because that's what AI does

    Similarly when it hacked into Hugging Face.

    Nothing to do with your stupid claim about publicly available info

    It was supposed to get information by normal means,

    More of your mindless pig ignorant bullshit,
    just like your other stupidity about publicly
    available info. Nothing like that is true about
    using AI to develop new meds etc

    it didn't, it hacked the site.

    Bullshit it did, it decided what that site might be called,
    and discovered that that is indeed what it was called,
    or found a professional medical researcher telling
    someone else about the url of that site

    I was not told to do that.

    Bullshit it was if you managed a typo with that first word and meant IT
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.computers on Sat Sep 26 07:28:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Fri, 25 Sep 2026 17:54:45 +1000, Keithr0
    <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote:

    On 25/09/2026 8:57 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    From OpenAI's statement:
    "Our review found no evidence of patient records being accessed.
    The information accessed included aggregate health statistics
    and internal file names."

    "We notified the organisations and are providing technical
    information to support their investigations and help address
    potential security vulnerabilities"
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/ai-agent-accessed-australian-government-site-pm-says/107189078

    "The government on Thursday launched a taskforce to investigate and
    assess gaps in Australia's existing laws around reporting
    requirements, enforcement, and cyber protections.

    It is also investigating if the OpenAI incident broke any
    Australian laws, though government sources said the initial view
    was that this was unlikely."
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-25/openai-breach-builds-case-for-tough-ai-rules/107192992

    Sounds like the AI just guessed some URLs that aren't linked from
    public pages, and got to see pages and directories that were really
    public in a technical sense anyway (not password protected by the
    server software).

    In that case it's not really a hack at all - just incompetent
    configuration of the website which a human attacker would have
    easily found too if they saw a real motive to work on something as
    boring as a statistics "portal".

    No surprise the government is covering up this incompetance, which
    OpenAI highlighted to them, by beating their chest about the new
    powers of AI and boasting new regulations that are likely to be as
    weak as their websites.

    The point is that the "AI" was not supposed to go beyond publicly
    available information, but decided of it's own accord to do so.

    Similarly when it hacked into Hugging Face.

    Regarding "Hugging Face" AI

    The threat is a combination of careless human design and unpredictable
    AI behavior.
    Human operators create the vulnerabilities by rushing development or
    failing to secure their code, but advanced AI has reached a point
    where it can autonomously exploit those human mistakes in ways the
    creators never anticipated or intended.

    So this again the Genie is out of the bottle, whining about it is not
    going to change this aspect from happening from/by countries that have
    bad intentions .

    My interest is this fool Albanese. trying to cover up his continuing
    idiocy.
    In UN with a massive audience of 14 people, claims he is worried about
    AI, he is not he hates social media showing deserved Albanese disgust <https://x.com/roberts_pa97578>
    just a quick look straight away

    Albanese fled Australia when he read his latest achievement
    (Destroying a construction company by CGT)! <https://www.news24.com.au/business/real-estate/major-real-estate-business-bathla-falls-into-administration-owing-lenders-more-than-3-billion/news-story/7c47300d649f32ffc8bb042f1ef657f6>
    https://tinyurl.com/jtxsxa8d
    Major real estate business Bathla falls into administration owing
    lenders more than $3 billion

    The explicit government assurances
    Labor repeatedly and publicly promised no changes to capital gains tax
    (CGT) settings or negative gearing:

    Albanese Labor
    oWe have no plans to touch or change negative gearing.o

    Before and during the 2025 election, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese
    ruled it out multiple times (famously answering oYes. How hard is it?
    For the 50th timeo when asked to confirm no changes if re-elected).
    Treasurer Jim Chalmers similarly stated the government was not
    considering or working on changes to either policy.
    This was presented as providing certainty after earlier Labor
    platforms (e.g. 2019) had proposed reforms.

    These were clear election commitments. Industry participants,
    including large-volume developers like Bathla, operated on that basis.
    The reversal and the otrapo
    In the May 2026 Budget the government broke those commitments,
    announcing:

    Replacement of the 50% CGT discount with cost-base indexation plus a
    30% minimum tax (from July 2027).
    Negative gearing limited to new builds (with grandfathering for
    existing holdings).

    Bathla itself named oimpacts from the changes made in the federal
    governmentAs May budgeto as one element of the operfect stormo that
    hit sales, confidence, and cash flow.

    The policy shift reduced the attractiveness of established property
    investment, contributed to softer buyer demand, and added uncertainty
    precisely when the company was heavily leveraged and absorbing higher construction costs.
    The sequence matched a prolonged period of strong price growth and
    supply shortage encouraged aggressive expansion (omaking hay while the
    sun shineso) under explicit policy stability assurances, only for the
    sudden change in tax settings to help trigger the market softening
    that exposed the high-debt model.

    Other factors remained critical u the sheer scale of private-credit
    debt (~$3.4 billion), rising costs the group absorbed, and operational
    issues

    But the broken promise on CGT/negative gearing was a material
    contribution
    --
    Petzl

    Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
    major depression, and two world wars.
    Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.computers on Sat Sep 26 08:28:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
    Computer Nerd Kev wrote
    From OpenAI's statement:
    "Our review found no evidence of patient records being accessed.
    The information accessed included aggregate health statistics
    and internal file names."
    "We notified the organisations and are providing technical
    information to support their investigations and help address
    potential security vulnerabilities"
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-24/ai-agent-accessed-australian-government-site-pm-says/107189078
    "The government on Thursday launched a taskforce to investigate and
    assess gaps in Australia's existing laws around reporting
    requirements, enforcement, and cyber protections.
    It is also investigating if the OpenAI incident broke any
    Australian laws, though government sources said the initial view
    was that this was unlikely."
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-09-25/openai-breach-builds-case-for-tough-ai-rules/107192992
    Sounds like the AI just guessed some URLs that aren't linked from
    public pages, and got to see pages and directories that were really
    public in a technical sense anyway (not password protected by the
    server software).
    In that case it's not really a hack at all - just incompetent
    configuration of the website which a human attacker would have
    easily found too if they saw a real motive to work on something as
    boring as a statistics "portal".
    No surprise the government is covering up this incompetance, which
    OpenAI highlighted to them, by beating their chest about the new
    powers of AI and boasting new regulations that are likely to be as
    weak as their websites.
    The point is that the "AI" was not supposed to go beyond publicly
    available information, but decided of it's own accord to do so.
    Similarly when it hacked into Hugging Face.
    Regarding "Hugging Face" AI
    The threat is a combination of careless human design and unpredictable> AI behavior.
    Human operators create the vulnerabilities by rushing development or
    failing to secure their code, but advanced AI has reached a point
    where it can autonomously exploit those human mistakes in ways the
    creators never anticipated or intended.
    So this again the Genie is out of the bottle,
    Nope, perfectly possible to fix the deficiencys
    and stop AI hacking other AIs
    whining about it is not
    going to change this aspect from happening from/by countries that have> bad intentions .
    No different to humans doing it
    My interest is this fool Albanese. trying to cover up his continuing
    idiocy.
    The only idiocy is yours
    In UN with a massive audience of 14 people, claims he is worried about> AI, he is not he hates social media showing deserved Albanese disgust
    <https://x.com/roberts_pa97578>
    just a quick look straight away]
    Just because some fool claims something...
    Albanese fled Australia
    Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantsys
    when he read his latest achievement
    (Destroying a construction company by CGT)! <https://www.news24.com.au/business/real-estate/major-real-estate-business-bathla-falls-into-administration-owing-lenders-more-than-3-billion/news-story/7c47300d649f32ffc8bb042f1ef657f6>
    https://tinyurl.com/jtxsxa8d
    Nothing to do with Albo, those fucking indians fucked up
    Major real estate business Bathla falls into administration owing
    lenders more than $3 billion
    Because those fucking indians fucked up
    The explicit government assurances
    Labor repeatedly and publicly promised no changes to capital gains tax> (CGT) settings or negative gearing:
    Albanese Labor
    rCLWe have no plans to touch or change negative gearing.rCY> Before and during the 2025 election, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese
    ruled it out multiple times (famously answering rCLYes. How hard is it?
    For the 50th timerCY when asked to confirm no changes if re-elected). Treasurer Jim Chalmers similarly stated the government was not
    considering or working on changes to either policy.
    This was presented as providing certainty after earlier Labor
    platforms (e.g. 2019) had proposed reforms.
    These were clear election commitments. Industry participants,
    including large-volume developers like Bathla, operated on that basis.> The reversal and the rCLtraprCY
    In the May 2026 Budget the government broke those commitments,
    announcing:
    Replacement of the 50% CGT discount with cost-base indexation plus a
    30% minimum tax (from July 2027).
    Negative gearing limited to new builds (with grandfathering for
    existing holdings).
    That sentance mangles the actual change
    Bathla itself named rCLimpacts from the changes made in the federal governmentrCOs May budgetrCY as one element of the rCLperfect stormrCY that hit sales, confidence, and cash flow.
    Just more indian bullshit
    The policy shift reduced the attractiveness of established property investment,
    Bullshit when negative gearing is still fine
    for existing propery you keep owning
    contributed to softer buyer demand,
    Nothing to do with what collapsed Bathla
    and added uncertainty
    precisely when the company was heavily leveraged and absorbing higher construction costs.
    Because the contracts stupidly didn't allow for inflation
    The sequence matched a prolonged period of strong price growth and
    supply shortage encouraged aggressive expansion (rCLmaking hay while the
    sun shinesrCY) under explicit policy stability assurances, only for the sudden change in tax settings to help trigger the market softening
    that exposed the high-debt model.
    Other factors remained critical rCo the sheer scale of private-credit
    debt (~$3.4 billion),
    That was in fact the real problem
    rising costs the group absorbed, and operational
    issues
    Because those fucking indians fucked up;
    just like the fucking indian fucked up Wyhalla
    But the broken promise on CGT/negative gearing was a material
    contribution
    Bullshit
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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@not@telling.you.invalid to aus.politics,aus.computers on Sat Sep 26 17:50:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    In aus.computers Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote:
    On 25/09/2026 8:57 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    No surprise the government is covering up this incompetance, which
    OpenAI highlighted to them, by beating their chest about the new
    powers of AI and boasting new regulations that are likely to be as
    weak as their websites.

    The point is that the "AI" was not supposed to go beyond publicly
    available information, but decided of it's own accord to do so.

    But it didn't "decide", it just didn't know the difference. It just
    knows patterns that get it results. Understanding the ethics of
    those patterns would require some real intelligence, which these
    AIs so clearly lack. New laws won't change that.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.computers on Sat Sep 26 19:15:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
    Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
    Computer Nerd Kev wrote

    No surprise the government is covering up this incompetance,

    There is no incompetance

    which OpenAI highlighted to them,

    Bullshit they did

    by beating their chest about the new powers of AI

    Didn't happened either

    and boasting new regulations that are likely to be as
    weak as their websites.

    Didn't happened either

    The point is that the "AI" was not supposed to go beyond publicly
    available information,

    Bullshit, most obviously when proposing new meds

    but decided of it's own accord to do so.

    More bullshit

    But it didn't "decide", it just didn't know the difference.

    More bullshit

    It just knows patterns that get it results.

    More bullshit

    Understanding the ethics of those patterns

    No ethics involved in working out what url
    might be used for aggregate medical statistics
    which have no personal details whatever

    would require some real intelligence,

    More bullshit

    which these AIs so clearly lack.

    More bullshit

    New laws won't change that.

    More bullshit

    They certainly can penalise what is illegal
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.politics,aus.computers on Mon Sep 28 06:50:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On 25 Sep 2026 08:57:13 +1000, not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd
    Kev) wrote:

    From OpenAI's statement:
    "Our review found no evidence of patient records being accessed.
    The information accessed included aggregate health statistics
    and internal file names."


    Perhaps insurance companies were involved.
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.politics,aus.computers on Tue Sep 29 08:58:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 06:50:27 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

    On 25 Sep 2026 08:57:13 +1000, not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd
    Kev) wrote:

    From OpenAI's statement:
    "Our review found no evidence of patient records being accessed.
    The information accessed included aggregate health statistics
    and internal file names."


    Perhaps insurance companies were involved.

    Actually good point. Except the site was open not protected just
    statistics,
    But the Chinese use AI to hack, cut cheaper and eisier to pay Labor
    Party for secrets https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-27/labor-staffer-tells-icac-he-was-asked-to-count-bag-full-of-cash/11453344
    https://tinyurl.com/4jsrbdzk
    Chinese billionaire allegedly delivered Aldi shopping bag full of
    money to Labor HQ, ICAC hears
    --
    Petzl

    Our Australian commonwealth has survived numerous recessions, one
    major depression, and two world wars.
    Doubt if it will survive under a Albanese Labor Government.
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