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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Andy Bennett <aben@ben37j.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

looking to repair a couple of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination
But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Talking of toasters - we are (apparently) really weird and like our >> toast really thick, dark and crisp on the outside and lovely warm bread >> on the inside.

Me too

Most of the population appears to prefer thin rusk-like objects.

True
Mate of mine showed up one morning when I was having my
breakfast which is just a massive great slab of my toast and
said 'what the hell is that' :-)

We have been on a quest for (our opinion) a decent toaster for most of >> our 50 years of married life, nearly all appearing to take far too long >> and generate the rusk variety of toast regardless of the thickness of >> slice. Even using the oven grill dries out the slices somewhat.

And its a damned nuisance to have to do it so manually.
I much prefer a proper pop up toaster

Most appear to abide by the rule of approximately 400W allocated to >> each slot, so a 4 slice toaster is typically 1600W and a two slice 800 >> to 1000W.
I recently stumbled on a Russell Hobbs "Distinctions" toaster which is >> a 2 slicer but claimed to be 1600W - a lovely 800W per slice.
I did a few cross checks to ensure they were not telling porkies and >> purchased one - probably pricey at u44 from amazon but certainly a lot >> cheaper than the crap Dualit we have owned in the past.

I've been getting mine from garage/car boot sales, mostly for $5 or $10
so its cheap to try because you can't really try toasters in the shop to
see how well they handle very thick slices of bread and even the ones
that claim to do crumpets isnt really much use for our bread

Has nice wide long slots too - ideal for our 1 inch thick slices.
This produces our desired toast at last! You have to keep your eye on >> it as it is VERY fast and can easily generate cremated slices for the >> unwary, but once fully tuned works a treat. I can at last go to my >> grave eating decent toast.

Thanks for that, might try one if the repair turns out to be not > feasible.

Turns out that fixing the best of the toasters wasnt easy. You have
to dismantle it completely to be able to repair the burnt out wire
and its made with metal bits that go thru slots and are then bent.
Can't see those lasting when unbent and rebent and the toasters
weren't great even before they failed, particularly getting too thick
toast out when that jammed
So I bought the one you recommended. Not sold
in my country or yours that I could find only but
I could get it from amazon in germany and didnt
have to pay freight from there to australia
Stupid price, but I will never spend all my
savings before I kark it so what the hell
Works very well except for the fact that it
doesnt toast both sides the same, even if you
turn the toast around when half way thru,
so it can't be a design geometry problem.
I did consider that is due to one side of the slice having
been exposed to the air in a plastic bag for 24 hours
since I normally only toast a single slice of the multigrain
vertical loaf out of the bread machine every day for
breakfast but I just tried cutting an extra slice off and
keeping it in a plastic bag for 24 hours and turning it
half way thru, but that didnt make any difference, still
one side toasted more than the other
The difference is just visible, not so brown, in
fact closer to white than brown. Can't work out
what that can be due to, maybe the vertical loaf
just varys in density down the loaf
I used to get the same effect with the other toasters that died
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Not for me. The reason I toast the thickest slabs of
the multigrain bread that still fits in the toaster that
takes the thickest toast is because I prefer toast which
is toast on the outside and still bread in the middle.

I have always preferred toast like that, I used to call
it toast with bread in the middle when I was a little kid

Some people avoid toasters for a similar reason - they can just grill
one side of the bread
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Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Not for me. The reason I toast the thickest slabs of
the multigrain bread that still fits in the toaster that
takes the thickest toast is because I prefer toast which
is toast on the outside and still bread in the middle.
I have always preferred toast like that, I used to call
it toast with bread in the middle when I was a little kid

Some people avoid toasters for a similar reason - they can just grill
one side of the bread

The problem with that approach is that its
much slower given you have to fire up the
grill and monitor the slice all the time,

And I don't find that an air fryer produces
an acceptable result toast wise
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Rod Speed wrote:

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Andy Bennett <aben@ben37j.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

looking to repair a couple of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination
aBut I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Talking of toasters - we are (apparently) really weird and like our
toast really thick, dark and crisp on the outside and lovely warm
bread on the inside.

Me too

Most of the population appears to prefer thin rusk-likea objects.

True

Mate of mine showed up one morning when I was having my
breakfast which is just a massive great slab of my toast and
said 'what the hell is that' :-)

We have been on a quest for (our opinion) a decent toaster for most
of our 50 years of married life, nearly all appearing to take far
too long and generate the rusk variety of toast regardless of the
thickness of slice. Even using the oven grill dries out the slices
somewhat.

And its a damned nuisance to have to do it so manually.
I much prefer a proper pop up toaster

Most appear to abide by the rule of approximately 400W allocated to
each slot, so a 4 slice toaster is typically 1600W and a two slice
800 to 1000W.

I recently stumbled on a Russell Hobbs "Distinctions" toaster which
is a 2 slicer but claimed to be 1600W - a lovely 800W per slice.

I did a few cross checks to ensure they were not telling porkies and
purchased one - probably pricey at u44 from amazon but certainly a
lot cheaper than the crap Dualit we have owned in the past.

I've been getting mine from garage/car boot sales, mostly for $5 or $10
so its cheap to try because you can't really try toasters in the shop to
see how well they handle very thick slices of bread and even the ones
that claim to do crumpets isnt really much use for our bread

Has nice wide long slots too - ideal for our 1 inch thick slices.

This produces our desired toast at last! You have to keep your eye
on it as it is VERY fast and can easily generate cremated slices for
the unwary, but once fully tuned works a treat. I can at last go to
my grave eating decent toast.

Thanks for that, might try one if the repair turns out to be not
feasible.

Turns out that fixing the best of the toasters wasnt easy. You have
to dismantle it completely to be able to repair the burnt out wire
and its made with metal bits that go thru slots and are then bent.
Can't see those lasting when unbent and rebent and the toasters
weren't great even before they failed, particularly getting too thick
toast out when that jammed

So I bought the one you recommended. Not sold
in my country or yours that I could find only but
I could get it from amazon in germany and didnt
have to pay freight from there to australia

Stupid price, but I will never spend all my
savings before I kark it so what the hell

Works very well except for the fact that it
doesnt toast both sides the same, even if you
turn the toast around when half way thru,
so it can't be a design geometry problem.

I did consider that is due to one side of the slice having
been exposed to the air in a plastic bag for 24 hours
since I normally only toast a single slice of the multigrain
vertical loaf out of the bread machine every day for
breakfast but I just tried cutting an extra slice off and
keeping it in a plastic bag for 24 hours and turning it
half way thru, but that didnt make any difference, still
one side toasted more than the other

The difference is just visible, not so brown, in
fact closer to white than brown. Can't work out
what that can be due to, maybe the vertical loaf
just varys in density down the loaf

I used to get the same effect with the other toasters that died

that's usually due to one side of the bread having more moisture than
the other. if you dry out the slices at room temperature in a vertical
rack so not lying down on one side you shouldn't have that problem
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The problem with that approach is that its
much slower given you have to fire up the
grill and monitor the slice all the time,

And I don't find that an air fryer produces
an acceptable result toast wise

I am not so keen on air fryers as toasters either, but at least you can
have the bread as thick as you like

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Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote

The problem with that approach is that its
much slower given you have to fire up the
grill and monitor the slice all the time,

And I don't find that an air fryer produces
an acceptable result toast wise

I am not so keen on air fryers as toasters either, butat least you can
have the bread as thick as you like

Sure but I have fixed that problem with the new toaster
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Rod Speed wrote:

Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote

The problem with that approach is that its
much slower given you have to fire up the
grill and monitor the slice all the time,

And I don't find that an air fryer produces
an acceptable result toast wise

I am not so keen on air fryers as toasters either, butat least you
can have the bread as thick as you like

Sure but I have fixed that problem with the new toaster

you could try this .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI3xcIlZlDg&t=2s

:)
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Axel <none@not.here> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Andy Bennett <aben@ben37j.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

looking to repair a couple of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination
But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Talking of toasters - we are (apparently) really weird and like our >>>> toast really thick, dark and crisp on the outside and lovely warm >>>> bread on the inside.

Me too

Most of the population appears to prefer thin rusk-like objects.

True
Mate of mine showed up one morning when I was having my
breakfast which is just a massive great slab of my toast and
said 'what the hell is that' :-)

We have been on a quest for (our opinion) a decent toaster for most >>>> of our 50 years of married life, nearly all appearing to take far too >>>> long and generate the rusk variety of toast regardless of the >>>> thickness of slice. Even using the oven grill dries out the slices >>>> somewhat.

And its a damned nuisance to have to do it so manually.
I much prefer a proper pop up toaster

Most appear to abide by the rule of approximately 400W allocated to >>>> each slot, so a 4 slice toaster is typically 1600W and a two slice >>>> 800 to 1000W.
I recently stumbled on a Russell Hobbs "Distinctions" toaster which >>>> is a 2 slicer but claimed to be 1600W - a lovely 800W per slice.
I did a few cross checks to ensure they were not telling porkies and >>>> purchased one - probably pricey at u44 from amazon but certainly a >>>> lot cheaper than the crap Dualit we have owned in the past.

I've been getting mine from garage/car boot sales, mostly for $5 or $10
so its cheap to try because you can't really try toasters in the >>> shop to
see how well they handle very thick slices of bread and even the ones
that claim to do crumpets isnt really much use for our bread

Has nice wide long slots too - ideal for our 1 inch thick slices.
This produces our desired toast at last! You have to keep your eye on >>>> it as it is VERY fast and can easily generate cremated slices for the >>>> unwary, but once fully tuned works a treat. I can at last go to my >>>> grave eating decent toast.

Thanks for that, might try one if the repair turns out to be not >>> feasible.

Turns out that fixing the best of the toasters wasnt easy. You have
to dismantle it completely to be able to repair the burnt out wire
and its made with metal bits that go thru slots and are then bent.
Can't see those lasting when unbent and rebent and the toasters
weren't great even before they failed, particularly getting too thick>> toast out when that jammed
So I bought the one you recommended. Not sold
in my country or yours that I could find only but
I could get it from amazon in germany and didnt
have to pay freight from there to australia
Stupid price, but I will never spend all my
savings before I kark it so what the hell
Works very well except for the fact that it
doesnt toast both sides the same, even if you
turn the toast around when half way thru,
so it can't be a design geometry problem.
I did consider that is due to one side of the slice having
been exposed to the air in a plastic bag for 24 hours
since I normally only toast a single slice of the multigrain
vertical loaf out of the bread machine every day for
breakfast but I just tried cutting an extra slice off and
keeping it in a plastic bag for 24 hours and turning it
half way thru, but that didnt make any difference, still
one side toasted more than the other
The difference is just visible, not so brown, in
fact closer to white than brown. Can't work out
what that can be due to, maybe the vertical loaf
just varys in density down the loaf
I used to get the same effect with the other toasters that died

that's usually due to one side of the bread having more moisture than > the other. if you dry out the slices at room temperature in a > vertical rack so not lying down on one side you shouldn't have that > problem

Just tried that, with it out in the air for about 7 hours and that
did see the two sides much closer in color. But that approach
no longer produces the toast I prefer, what I used to call when
a kid, toast with bread in the middle. Its now toasted right thru
The residual difference in the two sides appears to be
due to the vertical loaf varying in density down the loaf.
You can see that effect in the bread before its toasted.
In theory the fix would be to vary the temperature of the
element that is toasting one side and that wouldnt be
hard to do electronically but might be hard to do given the
density of the loaf varys quite a bit down the vertical loaf
The difference while visibly different still sees the paler side toastedbut just not as brown as the other one so likely I will just leave it at that
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 17:09:14 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote

The problem with that approach is that its
much slower given you have to fire up the
grill and monitor the slice all the time,

And I don't find that an air fryer produces
an acceptable result toast wise

I am not so keen on air fryers as toasters either, butat least you can
have the bread as thick as you like

Sure but I have fixed that problem with the new toaster

Though more expensive, it might pay to invest in a commercial unit. https://www.nisbets.com.au/
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On Sat, 11 Apr 2026 09:40:09 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 17:09:14 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote

The problem with that approach is that its
much slower given you have to fire up the
grill and monitor the slice all the time,

And I don't find that an air fryer produces
an acceptable result toast wise

I am not so keen on air fryers as toasters either, butat least you can >>> have the bread as thick as you like

Sure but I have fixed that problem with the new toaster

Though more expensive, it might pay to invest in a commercial unit. >https://www.nisbets.com.au/

also... https://www.nisbets.com.au/commercial-kitchen-machines/cooking-equipment/toasters/_/a33-3?text=toasters&r-type=m


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Rod Speed wrote:

Axel <none@not.here> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Andy Bennett <aben@ben37j.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

looking to repair a couple of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination
aBut I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Talking of toasters - we are (apparently) really weird and like
our toast really thick, dark and crisp on the outside and lovely
warm bread on the inside.

Me too

Most of the population appears to prefer thin rusk-likea objects.

True

Mate of mine showed up one morning when I was having my
breakfast which is just a massive great slab of my toast and
said 'what the hell is that' :-)

We have been on a quest for (our opinion) a decent toaster for
most of our 50 years of married life, nearly all appearing to take
far too long and generate the rusk variety of toast regardless of
the thickness of slice. Even using the oven grill dries out the
slices somewhat.

And its a damned nuisance to have to do it so manually.
I much prefer a proper pop up toaster

Most appear to abide by the rule of approximately 400W allocated
to each slot, so a 4 slice toaster is typically 1600W and a two
slice 800 to 1000W.

I recently stumbled on a Russell Hobbs "Distinctions" toaster
which is a 2 slicer but claimed to be 1600W - a lovely 800W per
slice.

I did a few cross checks to ensure they were not telling porkies
and purchased one - probably pricey at u44 from amazon but
certainly a lot cheaper than the crap Dualit we have owned in the
past.

I've been getting mine from garage/car boot sales, mostly for $5 or
$10
so its cheap to try because you can't really try toasters in the
shopaaa to
see how well they handle very thick slices of bread and even the ones
that claim to do crumpets isnt really much use for our bread

Has nice wide long slots too - ideal for our 1 inch thick slices.

This produces our desired toast at last! You have to keep your eye
on it as it is VERY fast and can easily generate cremated slices
for the unwary, but once fully tuned works a treat. I can at last
go to my grave eating decent toast.

Thanks for that, might try one if the repair turns out to be not
feasible.

Turns out that fixing the best of the toasters wasnt easy. You have
to dismantle it completely to be able to repair the burnt out wire
and its made with metal bits that go thru slots and are then bent.
Can't see those lasting when unbent and rebent and the toasters
weren't great even before they failed, particularly getting too thick
toast out when that jammed

So I bought the one you recommended. Not sold
in my country or yours that I could find only but
I could get it from amazon in germany and didnt
have to pay freight from there to australia

Stupid price, but I will never spend all my
savings before I kark it so what the hell

Works very well except for the fact that it
doesnt toast both sides the same, even if you
turn the toast around when half way thru,
so it can't be a design geometry problem.

I did consider that is due to one side of the slice having
been exposed to the air in a plastic bag for 24 hours
since I normally only toast a single slice of the multigrain
vertical loaf out of the bread machine every day for
breakfast but I just tried cutting an extra slice off and
keeping it in a plastic bag for 24 hours and turning it
half way thru, but that didnt make any difference, still
one side toasted more than the other

The difference is just visible, not so brown, in
fact closer to white than brown. Can't work out
what that can be due to, maybe the vertical loaf
just varys in density down the loaf

I used to get the same effect with the other toasters that died

that's usually due to one side of the bread having more moisture than
the other.aa if you dry out the slices at room temperature in a
verticala rackaa so not lying down on one side you shouldn't have
that problem

Just tried that, with it out in the air for about 7 hours and that
did see the two sides much closer in color. But that approach
no longer produces the toast I prefer, what I used to call when
a kid, toast with bread in the middle. Its now toasted right thru

if that's the kind of toast you want you need a toaster that toasts the
bread quickly, so it browns the outside before the inside is fully
toasted. the Breville I have does that, but I prefer to use the slower toasting setting so I get the bread fully toasted.

The residual difference in the two sides appears to be
due to the vertical loaf varying in density down the loaf.
You can see that effect in the bread before its toasted.

In theory the fix would be to vary the temperature of the
element that is toasting one side and that wouldnt be
hard to do electronically but might be hard to do given the
density of the loaf varys quite a bit down the vertical loaf

the breville has a crumpet setting, since crumpets at a normal toasting setting invariably burn on the bottom before the top is cooked. the
crumpet setting reduces the element output on the bottom side of the
crumpet, providing you put it in the right way of course.

The difference while visibly different still sees the paler side toasted
but just not as brown as the other one so likely I will just leave it
at that

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Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote

The problem with that approach is that its
much slower given you have to fire up the
grill and monitor the slice all the time,

And I don't find that an air fryer produces
an acceptable result toast wise

I am not so keen on air fryers as toasters either, but
at least you can have the bread as thick as you like

Sure but I have fixed that problem with the new toaster

Though more expensive, it might pay to invest in a commercial unit. https://www.nisbets.com.au/

That won't fix the only remaining problem, that both
sides don't get toasted identically given the fact that
the problem is that the density of the bread varys
down the vertical loaf from the bread machine
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Axel <none@not.here> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Axel <none@not.here> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Andy Bennett <aben@ben37j.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

looking to repair a couple of toasters, mainly because
I do really thick toast cut from a full loaf and it's hard
to find a popup toaster that can do that well, particularly
when buying online at a sensible price and it shouldn't
be hard to spot weld the element burnout at the termination
But I can't work out how to get the handle off so I can get
the cover off. Online some have screws but none of mine
do. Are they glued on and can you just lever it off ?

Talking of toasters - we are (apparently) really weird and like our >>>>>> toast really thick, dark and crisp on the outside and lovely warm >>>>>> bread on the inside.

Me too

Most of the population appears to prefer thin rusk-like objects.>>>>> True

Mate of mine showed up one morning when I was having my
breakfast which is just a massive great slab of my toast and
said 'what the hell is that' :-)

We have been on a quest for (our opinion) a decent toaster for most >>>>>> of our 50 years of married life, nearly all appearing to take far >>>>>> too long and generate the rusk variety of toast regardless of the >>>>>> thickness of slice. Even using the oven grill dries out the slices >>>>>> somewhat.

And its a damned nuisance to have to do it so manually.
I much prefer a proper pop up toaster

Most appear to abide by the rule of approximately 400W allocated to >>>>>> each slot, so a 4 slice toaster is typically 1600W and a two slice >>>>>> 800 to 1000W.
I recently stumbled on a Russell Hobbs "Distinctions" toaster which >>>>>> is a 2 slicer but claimed to be 1600W - a lovely 800W per slice.
I did a few cross checks to ensure they were not telling porkies >>>>>> and purchased one - probably pricey at u44 from amazon but >>>>>> certainly a lot cheaper than the crap Dualit we have owned in the >>>>>> past.

I've been getting mine from garage/car boot sales, mostly for $5 or >>>>> $10
so its cheap to try because you can't really try toasters in the >>>>> shop to
see how well they handle very thick slices of bread and even the ones >>>>> that claim to do crumpets isnt really much use for our bread

Has nice wide long slots too - ideal for our 1 inch thick slices.>>>>>> This produces our desired toast at last! You have to keep your eye >>>>>> on it as it is VERY fast and can easily generate cremated slices >>>>>> for the unwary, but once fully tuned works a treat. I can at last >>>>>> go to my grave eating decent toast.

Thanks for that, might try one if the repair turns out to be not >>>>> feasible.

Turns out that fixing the best of the toasters wasnt easy. You have>>>> to dismantle it completely to be able to repair the burnt out wire
and its made with metal bits that go thru slots and are then bent.
Can't see those lasting when unbent and rebent and the toasters
weren't great even before they failed, particularly getting too thick
toast out when that jammed
So I bought the one you recommended. Not sold
in my country or yours that I could find only but
I could get it from amazon in germany and didnt
have to pay freight from there to australia
Stupid price, but I will never spend all my
savings before I kark it so what the hell
Works very well except for the fact that it
doesnt toast both sides the same, even if you
turn the toast around when half way thru,
so it can't be a design geometry problem.
I did consider that is due to one side of the slice having
been exposed to the air in a plastic bag for 24 hours
since I normally only toast a single slice of the multigrain
vertical loaf out of the bread machine every day for
breakfast but I just tried cutting an extra slice off and
keeping it in a plastic bag for 24 hours and turning it
half way thru, but that didnt make any difference, still
one side toasted more than the other
The difference is just visible, not so brown, in
fact closer to white than brown. Can't work out
what that can be due to, maybe the vertical loaf
just varys in density down the loaf
I used to get the same effect with the other toasters that died

that's usually due to one side of the bread having more moisture than >>> the other. if you dry out the slices at room temperature in a >>> vertical rack so not lying down on one side you shouldn't have that >>> problem

Just tried that, with it out in the air for about 7 hours and that
did see the two sides much closer in color. But that approach
no longer produces the toast I prefer, what I used to call when
a kid, toast with bread in the middle. Its now toasted right thru

if that's the kind of toast you want you need a toaster that toasts the > bread quickly, so it browns the outside before the inside is fully > toasted.

That's what it is and it does that well. Its twice the
power of normal toasters as Andy told me

the Breville I have does that, but I prefer to use theslower toasting > setting so I get the bread fully toasted.

And it would have the same problem, doesnt toast both sides
identically, because the loaf varys in density down the loaf

The residual difference in the two sides appears to be
due to the vertical loaf varying in density down the loaf.
You can see that effect in the bread before its toasted.
In theory the fix would be to vary the temperature of the
element that is toasting one side and that wouldnt be
hard to do electronically but might be hard to do given the
density of the loaf varys quite a bit down the vertical loaf

the breville has a crumpet setting, since crumpets at a normal toasting > setting invariably burn on the bottom before the top is cooked. the > crumpet setting reduces the element output on the bottom side of the > crumpet, providing you put it in the right way of course.

And some toasters have a bagel setting for the same
reason but they only warm the crust side, don't toast it

The difference while visibly different still sees the paler side toasted
but just not as brown as the other one so likely I will just leave it >> at that

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On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 20:22:49 +1000, Axel <none@not.here> wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> wrote

The problem with that approach is that its
much slower given you have to fire up the
grill and monitor the slice all the time,

And I don't find that an air fryer produces
an acceptable result toast wise

I am not so keen on air fryers as toasters either, butat least you
can have the bread as thick as you like

Sure but I have fixed that problem with the new toaster

you could try this .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI3xcIlZlDg&t=2s

:)

I just learned how cook toast in Air fryer.
More bench space threw toaster out
Not only cooks the toast but sausages at same time,
(ALDI "Wagu" Sausages are good cheap taste like sausages)
(use a loaf tin that fits, toast top and bottom together 200C
8 minutes, when down to 5 minutes left I put 2 slices of bread across
top of loaf tin)

TEMU Air Fryer Machines
do not select "Relevance", scroll to "Top Sales" and select
In Sydney NSW, I get items in a week.

Hard boiled easy to peel Eggs are 120C for 12 Minutes, let cool by
leaving in Air Fryer (first attempt use 1 egg if OK you can cook
whatever number you want)
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