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keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote

Axel wrote

Petzl wrote

Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote

Axel <none@not.here> wrote:

Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

DATS HOW SHITE WINDOWS11 HAS BECOME

Perhaps, but I can't see those brands doing that except as an
obscure option when purchasing online. Got a link?

here's what google AI says..

That's not a link! I've told you what I think of AI, and by default
I skip anything people post from it because I'll only have to
research myself whether what it says is BS or not. Which is exactly
the same situation as with the original post.

Linux sales are moving up while Windows is moving down but still baby
steps.

Projections for 2026

Analysts forecast 6% global share by late 2026 if trends hold, fueled
by privacy focus, gaming improvements (e.g., Steam Proton), and
enterprise shifts.

While not dominating consumer desktops, it's "the year" for pros
ditching Windows/macOS,

A news link here AI will fact check it
<https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/the-year-of-the-linux-desktop-
this-time-the-data-says-yes-177571.html>
https://tinyurl.com/mvdeucc4

The Year of the Linux Desktop? This Time, the Data Says Yes

don't mention AI to Kev. that's akin to showing a cross to a vampire.
it will cause him to recoil in horror, lol

"AI" is wrecking the web.

We'll see...

It costs money to run a web site,

Duh

and site owners usually rely on advertising to cover their costs.

And its trivial to avoid seeing any of that shit
and AI will tell you how to do that, for free

The amount that they can charge for advertisingdepends on the number
of page views.

Duh

With "AI", it's scraper visits the site once, steals the information,
and the site gets no views.

Stiff shit. So the cost of running a web site is
just part of the cost of doing business and
pleny of operations like Choice, Ivan's Pies,
all of my banks etc dont have any advertising
and with the other stuff like Youtube and the
free to air TV channels, its free to bin their ads

It's a vicious circle, the web sites don't get enough revenue to
continue,

More of your mindless bullshit with all I listed
and even wikipedia etc which doesnt have ads

the "AIs" don't have the information to steal, and get even worse than
they are now.

Even sillier than you usually manage
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keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote:

On 26/03/2026 7:45 am, Axel wrote:

don't mention AI to Kev. that's akin to showing a cross to a vampire. it
will cause him to recoil in horror, lol

"AI" is wrecking the web.

I agree, although I consider it a separate topic. Posting
nonsensical AI rubbish to Usenet is wrecking Usenet, which I think
is a more relevent issue to point out here to the people doing it.

Mind you Felix and Petzl seem to have taken that as a challenge to
annoy me by doing it anyway. So if they keep it up I might just
killfile them since dealing with trying to decode whether there's
truth in these AI claims is much harder and more distracting than
reading human replies, and it pisses me off more in the end.

It costs money to run a web site, and site
owners usually rely on advertising to cover their costs. The amount that they can charge for advertising depends on the number of page views.
With "AI", it's scraper visits the site once, steals the information,
and the site gets no views.

Well no. True the site gets no ad views because the AI doesn't load
the ads, but I know for a fact the scrapers don't visit anything
like "once". In fact the problem is they visit at least every minute
or two. "AmazonBot" has been hitting my sites 1-3 times a second for
over a year. Other more abusive crawlers don't say who they are and
use pools of thousands of random IP addresses to send requests from
to avoid blocking. One was hitting one of my sites with millions of
requests a day, fixated on trying endless different strings in a
specific session variable on some dynamically-generated pages. It
was neat to see how litterally one of the cheapest VPSs available
anywhere could take that load, but eventually the number of
simultaneous requests ramped up until it ran out of its 1GB RAM and
I had to take that part of the site down until I worked out a way
of blocking those requests. The requests continued for a few days
in spite of only getting a 503 error response back. Hundreds of
requests per second, which it coped with then since it didn't have
to load the PHP module each time and therefore the memory usage per
request was much less than before.

Another issue is I can't keep Web access logs for long anymore
since they fill up the storage, and I had to add a logrotate rule
to automatically delete those logs early if they start getting too
big.

It's a vicious circle, the web sites don't get enough revenue to
continue, the "AIs" don't have the information to steal, and get
even worse than they are now.

Worse for me, since I don't like the major web browsers and use
Dillo or Links for most of my browsing: Websites trying to detect
bots keep blocking me instead. For the first time yesterday even
Wikipedia blocked me from downloading the images on pages with
Dillo, claiming I was a bot. I've had to find alternatives to IMDB
since it now blocks me, and one of those alternatives already
blocked me once, two if you count Wikipedia. Gumtree doesn't even
work for me in Firefox anymore on my usual PC, with them always
redirecting me to an "access denied" page, presumably as a
suspected bot. Weirdly it does work on another Linux PC that I
rarely use, with the same Firefox version. I reported that to
Gumtree about a year ago and they just told me to update the
browser, after I'd already told them the version number, which was
current. The useful web seems to be shrinking by the day thanks to
these Artificial Idiots and website's lazy attempts to block them.

That's not to mention when you do a web search for some topics now
and just get volumes of similar, obviously AI-generated, webpages
in the results. All telling you nothing of value. The only hope is
to spot old forum threads. But I think I already talked/argued
about that here before.
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keithr0 wrote:

On 26/03/2026 7:45 am, Axel wrote:

Petzl wrote:

On 16 Mar 2026 10:23:52 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev
<not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:

Axel <none@not.here> wrote:

Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

DATS HOW SHITE WINDOWS11 HAS BECOME

Perhaps, but I can't see those brands doing that except as an
obscure option when purchasing online. Got a link?

here's what google AI says..

That's not a link! I've told you what I think of AI, and by default
I skip anything people post from it because I'll only have to
research myself whether what it says is BS or not. Which is exactly
the same situation as with the original post.

Linux sales are moving up while Windows is moving down but still baby
steps.
I prefer AI more than Rod Speed rubbish.
Projections for 2026
Analysts forecast 6% global share by late 2026 if trends hold, fueled
by privacy focus, gaming improvements (e.g., Steam Proton), and
enterprise shifts.
While not dominating consumer desktops, it's "the year" for pros
ditching Windows/macOS,
A news link here AI will fact check it
<https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/the-year-of-the-linux-desktop-
this-time-the-data-says-yes-177571.html>
-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/mvdeucc4
The Year of the Linux Desktop? This Time, the Data Says Yes

don't mention AI to Kev. that's akin to showing a cross to a vampire.
it will cause him to recoil in horror, lol

"AI" is wrecking the web. It costs money to run a web site, and site
owners usually rely on advertising to cover their costs. The amount
that they can charge for advertising depends on the number of page
views. With "AI", it's scraper visits the site once, steals the
information, and the site gets no views. It's a vicious circle, the
web sites don't get enough revenue to continue, the "AIs" don't have
the information to steal, and get even worse than they are now.

doesn't the AI visit count as a page view?
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Petzl wrote:

On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 17:22:16 +1000, keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au>
wrote:
Snip

Linux sales are moving up while Windows is moving down but still baby
steps.
I prefer AI more than Rod Speed rubbish.
Projections for 2026
Analysts forecast 6% global share by late 2026 if trends hold, fueled
by privacy focus, gaming improvements (e.g., Steam Proton), and
enterprise shifts.
While not dominating consumer desktops, it's "the year" for pros
ditching Windows/macOS,
A news link here AI will fact check it
<https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/the-year-of-the-linux-desktop-
this-time-the-data-says-yes-177571.html>
-a-a-a-a-a-a https://tinyurl.com/mvdeucc4
The Year of the Linux Desktop? This Time, the Data Says Yes

don't mention AI to Kev. that's akin to showing a cross to a vampire. it >>> will cause him to recoil in horror, lol

"AI" is wrecking the web. It costs money to run a web site, and site
owners usually rely on advertising to cover their costs. The amount that
they can charge for advertising depends on the number of page views.
With "AI", it's scraper visits the site once, steals the information,
and the site gets no views. It's a vicious circle, the web sites don't
get enough revenue to continue, the "AIs" don't have the information to
steal, and get even worse than they are now.

"With "AI", it's scraper visits the site once, steals the
information,"

Not sure, all the AI I use do often compare news articles but always
leave a clickable link cite,
They also compare Government subject data links and leace cite links

yes AI quotes the sources, so ppl can still read them
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Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote:

On 26/03/2026 7:45 am, Axel wrote:

don't mention AI to Kev. that's akin to showing a cross to a vampire. it >>> will cause him to recoil in horror, lol

"AI" is wrecking the web.

I agree, although I consider it a separate topic. Posting
nonsensical AI rubbish to Usenet is wrecking Usenet, which I think
is a more relevent issue to point out here to the people doing it.

Mind you Felix and Petzl seem to have taken that as a challenge to
annoy me by doing it anyway.

I'm not trying to do that. I just forget not to post AI to you.

So if they keep it up I might just
killfile them

I value your comments, so please don't killfile me, because you know a
lot about Linux

since dealing with trying to decode whether there's
truth in these AI claims is much harder and more distracting than
reading human replies, and it pisses me off more in the end.

It costs money to run a web site, and site
owners usually rely on advertising to cover their costs. The amount that
they can charge for advertising depends on the number of page views.
With "AI", it's scraper visits the site once, steals the information,
and the site gets no views.

Well no. True the site gets no ad views because the AI doesn't load
the ads, but I know for a fact the scrapers don't visit anything
like "once". In fact the problem is they visit at least every minute
or two. "AmazonBot" has been hitting my sites 1-3 times a second for
over a year. Other more abusive crawlers don't say who they are and
use pools of thousands of random IP addresses to send requests from
to avoid blocking. One was hitting one of my sites with millions of
requests a day, fixated on trying endless different strings in a
specific session variable on some dynamically-generated pages. It
was neat to see how litterally one of the cheapest VPSs available
anywhere could take that load, but eventually the number of
simultaneous requests ramped up until it ran out of its 1GB RAM and
I had to take that part of the site down until I worked out a way
of blocking those requests. The requests continued for a few days
in spite of only getting a 503 error response back. Hundreds of
requests per second, which it coped with then since it didn't have
to load the PHP module each time and therefore the memory usage per
request was much less than before.

Another issue is I can't keep Web access logs for long anymore
since they fill up the storage, and I had to add a logrotate rule
to automatically delete those logs early if they start getting too
big.

It's a vicious circle, the web sites don't get enough revenue to
continue, the "AIs" don't have the information to steal, and get
even worse than they are now.

Worse for me, since I don't like the major web browsers and use
Dillo or Links for most of my browsing: Websites trying to detect
bots keep blocking me instead. For the first time yesterday even
Wikipedia blocked me from downloading the images on pages with
Dillo, claiming I was a bot. I've had to find alternatives to IMDB
since it now blocks me, and one of those alternatives already
blocked me once, two if you count Wikipedia. Gumtree doesn't even
work for me in Firefox anymore on my usual PC, with them always
redirecting me to an "access denied" page, presumably as a
suspected bot. Weirdly it does work on another Linux PC that I
rarely use, with the same Firefox version. I reported that to
Gumtree about a year ago and they just told me to update the
browser, after I'd already told them the version number, which was
current. The useful web seems to be shrinking by the day thanks to
these Artificial Idiots and website's lazy attempts to block them.

That's not to mention when you do a web search for some topics now
and just get volumes of similar, obviously AI-generated, webpages
in the results. All telling you nothing of value. The only hope is
to spot old forum threads. But I think I already talked/argued
about that here before.

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