• Old SurfacePro4

    From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.computers on Fri Jan 23 11:03:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, probably
    the battery. I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor, since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible, and with just
    the one extension lead?
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Fri Jan 23 12:30:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, probably
    the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.computers on Fri Jan 23 14:20:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 12:30:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, probably
    the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?
    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.
    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Fri Jan 23 15:08:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, probably
    the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.computers on Fri Jan 23 15:38:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 15:08:40 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, probably
    the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is. Anyway I can do it either way.
    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.
    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.
    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Fri Jan 23 16:07:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, probably >>>>> the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
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  • From keithr0@me@bugger.off.com.au to aus.computers on Fri Jan 23 20:19:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On 23/01/2026 2:38 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 15:08:40 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, probably >>>>> the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is. Anyway I can do it either way.
    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.
    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.
    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor >>
    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.

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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Sat Jan 24 03:28:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end,
    probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is. Anyway I can do it either way.
    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen >>>>>> far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.

    No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.computers on Sat Jan 24 08:15:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 16:07:40 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, probably >>>>>> the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?
    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.


    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen >>>>>> far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
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  • From keithr0@me@bugger.off.com.au to aus.computers on Sat Jan 24 09:51:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On 24/01/2026 2:28 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end,
    probably-a the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen.-a-a We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ?-a Isnt your arm going to get tired ?-a Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    -aDepends how heavy the touch screen is.-a Anyway I can do it either way. >>> I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection.-a-a WiFi might be possible too.-a I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3).-a-a-a I can get a larger touch screen >>>>>>> far cheaper than a new laptop.-a-a Is all-a this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just-a the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.

    No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books, and far more easily
    handled in bed than a 20" display.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Sat Jan 24 12:24:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end,
    probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen >>>>>>> far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Sat Jan 24 12:30:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is. Anyway I can do it either
    way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>> screen far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.
    No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    Its unclear if he agrees with that.

    I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily handled in bed than a 20" display.

    Depends on what you do mount wise
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.computers on Sat Jan 24 14:10:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 12:24:45 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat
    Pro)
    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch screen >>>>>>>> far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.computers on Sat Jan 24 14:16:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 12:30:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is. Anyway I can do it either >>>>> way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>> screen far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.
    No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    Its unclear if he agrees with that.

    I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily handled in bed than a 20" display.

    Depends on what you do mount wise

    I hope it will be just like reading an open glossy magazine. And I
    watch movies too. The weight is the point and I want to get the
    weights of various touch screens. The Surface pro by itself is 1100
    gm.
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.computers on Sat Jan 24 14:30:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers


    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.
    No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    Its unclear if he agrees with that.

    I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily handled in bed than a 20" display.

    Depends on what you do mount wise

    I hope it will be just like reading an open glossy magazine. And I
    watch movies too. The weight is the point and I want to get the
    weights of various touch screens. The Surface pro by itself is 1100
    gm.

    I asked ChatBot about this, and the screens are heavier than I
    thought.
    ***************************
    Hello can I get the weights (in grams) of several typical 20" touch
    screens?

    Here are the **weights (in grams)** for a few typical **20-inch
    (19.5?) touchscreen monitors** u based on manufacturer specifications
    (mostly *Elo Touch Solutions* models):

    ### ?? Typical 20? Touchscreen Weights

    1. **[Elo 2002L 20? Touchscreen Monitor With Stand]()**

    * Approx. *with stand*: **5.3 kg** ? **5300 g** ([Elo Support][1])
    * Approx. *without stand*: **3.29 kg** ? **3290 g** ([Elo
    Support][1])
    * *Packaged weight (for shipping)*: ~ **9 kg** ? **9000 g** ([Elo Support][1])

    2. **Elo 2002L 20? Touchscreen Monitor (unbranded standalone without
    stand)**

    * Approx. *unpackaged without stand*: **3.29 kg** ? **3290 g**
    ([Elo Support][1])

    3. **Elo 2094L 19.5? Open-Frame Touchscreen**

    * Approx. **4.7 kg** ? **4700 g** ([Elo Touch Solutions
    Documentation][2])
    * *Packaged weight (shipping)*: ~ **6.4 kg** ? **6400 g** ([Elo
    Touch Solutions Documentation][2])

    ---

    ### ?? Notes & Typical Variability

    * Many **20? touchscreens are actually ~19.5? active diagonal** u very
    common in both commercial and industrial models. ([Elo< | Touchscreen Solutions][3])
    * Weight varies significantly depending on whether a **stand is
    included**, whether itAs **open-frame vs fully-housed**, and
    additional features (e.g., speakers, rugged casing).
    * The values above are *approximate manufacturer specs* in grams, not
    precise measurements for *every* model u other brands/models can
    differ. ([elotouch.com][4])

    If you want, I can look up **weights for specific brands/models**
    youAre considering.

    [1]: https://elosupport.elotouch.com/hc/en-us/articles/31651090405271-What-is-the-weight-of-the-2002L-20-Touchscreen-Monitor?utm_source=chatgpt.com
    "What is the weight of the 2002L 20\" Touchscreen Monitor?"
    [2]: https://docs.elotouch.com/Elo_2094L.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com
    "2094L 19.5-inch LED"
    [3]: https://www.elotouch.com.au/product/2002l-20-touchscreen-monitor/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
    "2002L 20? Touchscreen Monitor u Elo< | Touchscreen Solutions"
    [4]: https://www.elotouch.com/touchscreen-monitors-2002l.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com "2002L 20\" Touchscreen Monitor"

    Thanks, any high definition screen without stand suitable for direct
    one-cable connection to a NUC computer. A thin light-weight unit would
    be best.

    Here are some **lightweight touchscreen display options** you might
    consider for use with a **NUC computer** (desktop mini PC) u ideally
    **without a bulky stand** and capable of being driven easily from
    USB-C or a simple video connection. Most models in this category are
    *portable touchscreens* (15u21.5?) rather than traditional 20? desktop
    monitors u because true 20? USB-C *one-cable touchscreens* are
    uncommon and heavy. ([Verbatim][1])

    ---

    ### [MagicRaven 15.6? Touchscreen Portable Monitor]()

    *$139.99*

    ### [Portable Touchscreen Monitors (generic)]()

    *$363.71*

    ### [Portable Touchscreen Monitor (generic)]()

    *$158.00*

    ### [UPERFECT 21.5? Portable Touchscreen Monitor]()

    *$339.99*

    ### [UPERFECT Y Portable Monitor]()

    *$214.69*

    ### ??? Best Lightweight Touchscreen Displays

    **1. [MagicRaven 15.6? Touchscreen Portable Monitor]()**

    * **Type:** Portable touchscreen monitor
    * **Size:** ~15.6? IPS, 1080p FHD
    * **Weight & Form:** Very lightweight and thin travel-friendly display
    (~1.22 lb / ~550 g according to similar models)
    ([store.itechperth.com.au][2])
    * **Connectivity:** Dual USB-C (video & power), HDMI u easy
    single-cable USB-C setup for video + power + touch on many devices ([store.itechperth.com.au][2])
    * **Best For:** Compact workstation or NUC setup where portability and simplicity matter.

    ---

    **2. [Portable Touchscreen Monitors (generic)]()** & **3. [Portable
    Touchscreen Monitor (generic)]()**

    * **Type:** Generic portable touchscreen options
    * **Size:** Typically 15u17? range
    * **Features:** Usually include USB-C plus secondary HDMI/USB-A;
    lightweight and easily powered via USB-C on compatible systems.
    * **Good Budget Choice:** If you want a simple touchscreen without
    investing heavily.

    ---

    **4. [UPERFECT 21.5? Portable Touchscreen Monitor]()**

    * **Type:** Larger portable touchscreen (~21.5?)
    * **Connectivity:** USB-C / HDMI
    * **Note:** A 21.5? version exists but reviews vary and payload may be
    heavier than the smaller portable screens u make sure the NUCAs USB-C
    port supports DisplayPort Alt Mode and sufficient power delivery.

    ---

    **5. [UPERFECT Y Portable Monitor]()**

    * **Type:** Budget portable screen
    * **Note:** Lower review rating, but sometimes useful as an
    inexpensive touchscreen / secondary display.

    ---

    ### ?? Connectivity & Suitability Tips

    * **Single-Cable USB-C:** To use *only one cable* from your NUC for
    video, touch data, and power, the monitor *must support USB-C
    DisplayPort Alt Mode and USB Power Delivery*. Many portable
    touchscreens support this, but check the NUC modelAs specs too.
    ([Verbatim][1])
    * **Driver Support:** On Windows (which NUCs run), touch typically
    works natively with USB-C connected displays; on Linux/Mac, touch
    support can vary by model.
    * **Without Stand:** Most portable monitors come with a *built-in
    kickstand or folio cover*, not a heavy stand u ideal for light setups. ([Verbatim][1])

    ---

    ### ?? Considerations

    * **Size vs Portability:** 15.6? models hit a good balance of usable
    screen space and light weight (~500u1000 g). Larger screens like 21.5?
    are heavier and may need a separate support arm if you donAt want a
    stand. ([Verbatim][1])
    * **True 20? Touchscreens:** Classic 20? commercial touchscreens
    exist, but these are usually *thicker, heavier and require separate
    power/USB touch cabling* u not ideal for single-cable minimalist
    setups.

    ---

    If youAd like, I can filter these by **exact weight**, **resolution**,
    or **price range** u just tell me what matters most!

    [1]: https://www.verbatim.com.au/products/portable-touchscreen-monitor/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
    "Portable Touchscreen Monitor u USB-C Second Screen | Verbatim"
    [2]: https://store.itechperth.com.au/magicraven-touch-screen-monitor-15-6-1080p-portable-monitor-for-laptop-lightweight-dual-usb-c-hdmi-computer-gaming-display-with-speakers-travel-screen-for-ps4-5-xbox-switch/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
    "MagicRaven Touch Screen Monitor, 15.6\" 1080P Portable Monitor for
    Laptop, Lightweight Dual USB C HDMI Computer Gaming Display with
    Speakers, Travel Screen for PS4/5 Xbox Switch... - ITech Perth"

    Thank you for your help/

    *************************************************
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Sat Jan 24 16:06:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in >>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat
    Pro)

    But its pain to scroll in a particular pdf with a touch
    screen compared with the scroll wheel on a mouse

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>> screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Sat Jan 24 16:15:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in >>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is. Anyway I can do it either >>>>>> way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>> screen far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.

    No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    Its unclear if he agrees with that.

    I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily handled in bed than a 20" display.

    Depends on what you do mount wise

    I hope it will be just like reading an open glossy magazine.

    It won't be when pagine. With a touch screen you have to
    reach out to change pages. With a mouse you just move
    the scroll wheel to page, no need to lift your arm.

    Corse you can always add a mouse when you realise that

    And I watch movies too.

    That will work fine depending on what you use to play
    the movie, you only need to use the touch screen to
    step back to see what you need to see again or to skip
    over and ad if its got embedded ads or boring bits

    The weight is the point and I want to getthe weights of various touch screens.

    Don't you use a mount ?

    The Surface pro by itself is 1100 gm.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Sat Jan 24 16:23:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.
    No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants
    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,
    Its unclear if he agrees with that.
    I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better
    And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs
    and far more easily handled in bed than a 20" display.
    Depends on what you do mount wise
    I hope it will be just like reading an open glossy magazine. And I
    watch movies too. The weight is the point and I want to get the
    weights of various touch screens. The Surface pro by itself is 1100
    gm.
    I asked ChatBot about this, and the screens are heavier than I
    thought.
    ***************************
    Hello can I get the weights (in grams) of several typical 20" touch
    screens?
    Here are the **weights (in grams)** for a few typical **20-inch
    (19.5?) touchscreen monitors** rCo based on manufacturer specifications (mostly *Elo Touch Solutions* models):
    ### ?? Typical 20? Touchscreen Weights
    1. **[Elo 2002L 20? Touchscreen Monitor With Stand]()**
    * Approx. *with stand*: **5.3 kg** ? **5300 g** ([Elo Support][1])
    * Approx. *without stand*: **3.29 kg** ? **3290 g** ([Elo
    Support][1])
    * *Packaged weight (for shipping)*: ~ **9 kg** ? **9000 g** ([Elo Support][1])
    2. **Elo 2002L 20? Touchscreen Monitor (unbranded standalone without
    stand)**
    * Approx. *unpackaged without stand*: **3.29 kg** ? **3290 g**
    ([Elo Support][1])
    3. **Elo 2094L 19.5? Open-Frame Touchscreen**
    * Approx. **4.7 kg** ? **4700 g** ([Elo Touch Solutions
    Documentation][2])
    * *Packaged weight (shipping)*: ~ **6.4 kg** ? **6400 g** ([Elo
    Touch Solutions Documentation][2])
    ---
    ### ?? Notes & Typical Variability
    * Many **20? touchscreens are actually ~19.5? active diagonal** rCo very common in both commercial and industrial models. ([Elo-< | Touchscreen Solutions][3])
    * Weight varies significantly depending on whether a **stand is
    included**, whether itrCOs **open-frame vs fully-housed**, and
    additional features (e.g., speakers, rugged casing).
    * The values above are *approximate manufacturer specs* in grams, not
    precise measurements for *every* model rCo other brands/models can
    differ. ([elotouch.com][4])
    If you want, I can look up **weights for specific brands/models**
    yourCOre considering.
    [1]: https://elosupport.elotouch.com/hc/en-us/articles/31651090405271-What-is-the-weight-of-the-2002L-20-Touchscreen-Monitor?utm_source=chatgpt.com
    "What is the weight of the 2002L 20\" Touchscreen Monitor?"
    [2]: https://docs.elotouch.com/Elo_2094L.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com
    "2094L 19.5-inch LED"
    [3]: https://www.elotouch.com.au/product/2002l-20-touchscreen-monitor/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
    "2002L 20? Touchscreen Monitor rCo Elo-< | Touchscreen Solutions"
    [4]: https://www.elotouch.com/touchscreen-monitors-2002l.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com
    "2002L 20\" Touchscreen Monitor"
    Thanks, any high definition screen without stand suitable for direct one-cable connection to a NUC computer. A thin light-weight unit would> be best.
    Here are some **lightweight touchscreen display options** you might
    consider for use with a **NUC computer** (desktop mini PC) rCo ideally **without a bulky stand** and capable of being driven easily from
    USB-C or a simple video connection. Most models in this category are *portable touchscreens* (15rCo21.5?) rather than traditional 20? desktop monitors rCo because true 20? USB-C *one-cable touchscreens* are> uncommon and heavy. ([Verbatim][1])
    ---

    ### [MagicRaven 15.6? Touchscreen Portable Monitor]()
    *$139.99*
    ### [Portable Touchscreen Monitors (generic)]()
    *$363.71*
    ### [Portable Touchscreen Monitor (generic)]()
    *$158.00*
    ### [UPERFECT 21.5? Portable Touchscreen Monitor]()
    *$339.99*
    ### [UPERFECT Y Portable Monitor]()
    *$214.69*
    ### ??? Best Lightweight Touchscreen Displays
    **1. [MagicRaven 15.6? Touchscreen Portable Monitor]()**
    * **Type:** Portable touchscreen monitor
    * **Size:** ~15.6? IPS, 1080p FHD
    * **Weight & Form:** Very lightweight and thin travel-friendly display> (~1.22 lb / ~550 g according to similar models)
    ([store.itechperth.com.au][2])
    * **Connectivity:** Dual USB-C (video & power), HDMI rCo easy
    single-cable USB-C setup for video + power + touch on many devices ([store.itechperth.com.au][2])
    * **Best For:** Compact workstation or NUC setup where portability and> simplicity matter.
    ---
    **2. [Portable Touchscreen Monitors (generic)]()** & **3. [Portable Touchscreen Monitor (generic)]()**
    * **Type:** Generic portable touchscreen options
    * **Size:** Typically 15rCo17? range
    * **Features:** Usually include USB-C plus secondary HDMI/USB-A;
    lightweight and easily powered via USB-C on compatible systems.
    * **Good Budget Choice:** If you want a simple touchscreen without
    investing heavily.
    ---
    **4. [UPERFECT 21.5? Portable Touchscreen Monitor]()**
    * **Type:** Larger portable touchscreen (~21.5?)
    * **Connectivity:** USB-C / HDMI
    * **Note:** A 21.5? version exists but reviews vary and payload may be> heavier than the smaller portable screens rCo make sure the NUCrCOs USB-C
    port supports DisplayPort Alt Mode and sufficient power delivery.
    ---
    **5. [UPERFECT Y Portable Monitor]()**
    * **Type:** Budget portable screen
    * **Note:** Lower review rating, but sometimes useful as an
    inexpensive touchscreen / secondary display.
    ---
    ### ?? Connectivity & Suitability Tips

    * **Single-Cable USB-C:** To use *only one cable* from your NUC for
    video, touch data, and power, the monitor *must support USB-C
    DisplayPort Alt Mode and USB Power Delivery*. Many portable
    touchscreens support this, but check the NUC modelrCOs specs too. ([Verbatim][1])
    * **Driver Support:** On Windows (which NUCs run), touch typically
    works natively with USB-C connected displays; on Linux/Mac, touch
    support can vary by model.
    * **Without Stand:** Most portable monitors come with a *built-in
    kickstand or folio cover*, not a heavy stand rCo ideal for light setups. ([Verbatim][1])
    ---
    ### ?? Considerations
    * **Size vs Portability:** 15.6? models hit a good balance of usable
    screen space and light weight (~500rCo1000 g). Larger screens like 21.5?
    are heavier and may need a separate support arm if you donrCOt want a
    stand. ([Verbatim][1])
    * **True 20? Touchscreens:** Classic 20? commercial touchscreens
    exist, but these are usually *thicker, heavier and require separate
    power/USB touch cabling* rCo not ideal for single-cable minimalist
    setups.
    ---
    If yourCOd like, I can filter these by **exact weight**, **resolution**,
    or **price range** rCo just tell me what matters most!
    [1]: https://www.verbatim.com.au/products/portable-touchscreen-monitor/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
    "Portable Touchscreen Monitor rCo USB-C Second Screen | Verbatim"
    [2]: https://store.itechperth.com.au/magicraven-touch-screen-monitor-15-6-1080p-portable-monitor-for-laptop-lightweight-dual-usb-c-hdmi-computer-gaming-display-with-speakers-travel-screen-for-ps4-5-xbox-switch/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
    "MagicRaven Touch Screen Monitor, 15.6\" 1080P Portable Monitor for
    Laptop, Lightweight Dual USB C HDMI Computer Gaming Display with
    Speakers, Travel Screen for PS4/5 Xbox Switch... - ITech Perth"
    Clearly speakers matter if you still want to
    put the NUC under the bed, for the movies
    Thank you for your help/
    *************************************************
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  • From keithr0@me@bugger.off.com.au to aus.computers on Sat Jan 24 18:20:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On 24/01/2026 11:30 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen.-a-a We like to read in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ?-a Isnt your arm going to get tired ?-a Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    -aDepends how heavy the touch screen is.-a Anyway I can do it either >>>>> way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection.-a-a WiFi might be possible too.-a I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3).-a-a-a I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>> screen-a far cheaper than a new laptop.-a-a Is all-a this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just-a the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.
    -aNo kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    Its unclear if he agrees with that.

    I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily-a handled in bed than a 20" display.

    Depends on what you do mount wise

    If he doesn't want a Kindle, an iPad would be my next choice. My 5th generation Air is a bit heavy, but a 3rd generation Air would be fine.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Sun Jan 25 03:14:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in >>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is. Anyway I can do it either >>>>>> way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>> screen far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.

    No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    Its unclear if he agrees with that.

    I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily handled in bed than a 20" display.

    Depends on what you do mount wise

    If he doesn't want a Kindle, an iPad would be my next choice.

    Same problem with pdfs

    My 5th generation Air is a bit heavy,

    Doesnt matter if you use a mount

    but a 3rd generation Air would be fine.

    But not for pdfs
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.computers on Sun Jan 25 07:54:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 16:06:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in >>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat
    Pro)

    But its pain to scroll in a particular pdf with a touch
    screen compared with the scroll wheel on a mouse

    The Acrobat pro XI has a thumbnail column at the left to assist
    scrolling.

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7
    laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>> screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Sun Jan 25 08:44:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in >>>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat
    Pro)

    But its pain to scroll in a particular pdf with a touch
    screen compared with the scroll wheel on a mouse

    The Acrobat pro XI has a thumbnail column at the left to assist
    scrolling.

    But that requires you to raise your hand to the screen

    A mouse with a scroll wheel doesnt

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the
    computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7 >>>>>>> laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>>> screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From keithr0@me@bugger.off.com.au to aus.computers on Sun Jan 25 09:18:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On 25/01/2026 2:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen.-a-a We like to read in >>>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ?-a Isnt your arm going to get tired ?-a Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    -aDepends how heavy the touch screen is.-a Anyway I can do it
    either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection.-a-a WiFi might be possible too.-a I'll check with the >>>>>>> computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7 >>>>>>> laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3).-a-a-a I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>>> screen-a far cheaper than a new laptop.-a-a Is all-a this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just-a the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.

    -aNo kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    -aIts unclear if he agrees with that.

    -aI find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    -aAnd kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily-a handled in bed than a 20" display.

    -aDepends on what you do mount wise

    If he doesn't want a Kindle, an iPad would be my next choice.

    Same problem with pdfs

    My 5th-a generation Air is a bit heavy,

    Doesnt matter if you use a mount

    but a 3rd generation Air would be fine.

    But not for pdfs

    I have no trouble viewing PDFs on the iPad.
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From keithr0@me@bugger.off.com.au to aus.computers on Sun Jan 25 09:20:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On 25/01/2026 7:44 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen.-a-a We like to read in >>>>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ?-a Isnt your arm going to get tired ?-a Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest.-a I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat
    Pro)

    But its pain to scroll in a particular pdf with a touch
    screen compared with the scroll wheel on a mouse

    The Acrobat pro XI has a thumbnail column at the left to assist
    scrolling.

    But that requires you to raise your hand to the screen

    A mouse with a scroll wheel doesnt

    Lying in bed, a trackball would be a better option than a mouse.

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection.-a-a WiFi might be possible too.-a I'll check with the >>>>>>>> computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7 >>>>>>>> laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3).-a-a-a I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>>>> screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop.-a-a Is all-a this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just-a the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Sun Jan 25 10:52:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in >>>>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is. Anyway I can do it
    either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the >>>>>>>> computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7 >>>>>>>> laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>>>> screen far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this >>>>>>>>>>>> possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.

    No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    Its unclear if he agrees with that.

    I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily handled in bed than a 20" display.

    Depends on what you do mount wise

    If he doesn't want a Kindle, an iPad would be my next choice.

    Same problem with pdfs

    My 5th generation Air is a bit heavy,

    Doesnt matter if you use a mount

    but a 3rd generation Air would be fine.

    But not for pdfs

    I have no trouble viewing PDFs on the iPad.

    You dont get the same paging as you do with kindles
    and don't have the same control over fonts etc as you
    do with a PC
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Sun Jan 25 10:55:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in >>>>>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat >>>>> Pro)

    But its pain to scroll in a particular pdf with a touch
    screen compared with the scroll wheel on a mouse

    The Acrobat pro XI has a thumbnail column at the left to assist
    scrolling.

    But that requires you to raise your hand to the screen
    A mouse with a scroll wheel doesnt

    Lying in bed, a trackball would be a better option than a mouse.

    Bullshit given that you dont need to move sideways with pdfs

    And a trackball is much more expensive than
    the cheapest mice

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB >>>>>>>>> connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the >>>>>>>>> computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7 >>>>>>>>> laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>>>>> screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From keithr0@me@bugger.off.com.au to aus.computers on Sun Jan 25 16:08:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On 25/01/2026 9:55 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen.-a-a We like to read in >>>>>>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ?-a Isnt your arm going to get tired ?-a Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest.-a I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat >>>>>> Pro)

    But its pain to scroll in a particular pdf with a touch
    screen compared with the scroll wheel on a mouse

    The Acrobat pro XI has a thumbnail column at the left to assist
    scrolling.

    -aBut that requires you to raise your hand to the screen
    -aA mouse with a scroll wheel doesnt

    Lying in bed, a trackball would be a better option than a mouse.

    Bullshit given that you dont need to move sideways with pdfs

    Only inside the PDF, you may need to while selecting one. The best thing
    about a trackball is that you don't need to move it, it takes up less
    space and is always in the same place. I think that I paid $35 for mine,
    I haven't used a mouse in years and don't intend to unless there is no
    option.

    And a trackball is much more expensive than
    the cheapest mice

    And?
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From keithr0@me@bugger.off.com.au to aus.computers on Sun Jan 25 16:09:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On 25/01/2026 9:52 am, Rod Speed wrote:
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one >>>>>>>>>>>>> end, probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen.-a-a We like to read >>>>>>>>>>> in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ?-a Isnt your arm going to get tired ?-a Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    -aDepends how heavy the touch screen is.-a Anyway I can do it >>>>>>>>> either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB >>>>>>>>> connection.-a-a WiFi might be possible too.-a I'll check with the >>>>>>>>> computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7 >>>>>>>>> laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3).-a-a-a I can get a larger >>>>>>>>>>>>> touch screen-a far cheaper than a new laptop.-a-a Is all-a this >>>>>>>>>>>>> possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just-a the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.

    -aNo kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    -aIts unclear if he agrees with that.

    -aI find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    -aAnd kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily-a handled in bed than a 20" display.

    -aDepends on what you do mount wise

    If he doesn't want a Kindle, an iPad would be my next choice.

    -aSame problem with pdfs

    My 5th-a generation Air is a bit heavy,

    -aDoesnt matter if you use a mount

    but a 3rd generation Air would be fine.

    -aBut not for pdfs

    I have no trouble viewing PDFs on the iPad.

    You dont get the same paging as you do with kindles
    and don't have the same control over fonts etc as you
    do with a PC

    Does that really matter when reading a book?
    --- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Jan 26 04:50:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end, probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read >>>>>>>>>>>>> in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the >>>>>>>>> SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format
    (Acrobat Pro)

    But its pain to scroll in a particular pdf with a touch
    screen compared with the scroll wheel on a mouse

    The Acrobat pro XI has a thumbnail column at the left to assist
    scrolling.

    But that requires you to raise your hand to the screen
    A mouse with a scroll wheel doesnt

    Lying in bed, a trackball would be a better option than a mouse.

    Bullshit given that you dont need to move sideways with pdfs

    Only inside the PDF, you may need to while selecting one.

    Plenty of mice allow sideways scrolling now

    The best thingb about a trackball is that you don't need to move it,

    You don't need to move the mouse when scrolling either

    it takes up less space

    But costs a lot more and there are far fewer cheap choices
    now that laptops have the movement thing on the keyboard

    and is always in the same place.

    Not when used in bed

    I think that I paid $35 for mine,

    Much more than a decent mouse

    I haven't used a mouse in years

    Your problem

    and don't intend to unless there is no option.

    Whst matters is whether he likes them

    And a trackball is much more expensive than
    the cheapest mice

    And?

    He is clearly into cheap stuff because no one
    wants to buy anything from him anymore
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Jan 26 04:53:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote
    keithr0 <me@bugger.off.com.au> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one >>>>>>>>>>>>>> end, probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small >>>>>>>>>>>>> ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read >>>>>>>>>>>> in bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is. Anyway I can do it >>>>>>>>>> either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB >>>>>>>>>> connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the >>>>>>>>>> computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7 >>>>>>>>>> laptop.

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger >>>>>>>>>>>>>> touch screen far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?
    q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor

    A Kindle or similar would be a far better idea.

    No kindle is anything like the 20" he wants

    No, but an 8" kindle is fine for reading books,

    Its unclear if he agrees with that.

    I find the damned thing too big myself and prefer
    my iphone SE3 for reading kindles just because
    it fits in my hand much better

    And kindles dont handle pdfs very
    well at all and all of his are pdfs

    and far more easily handled in bed than a 20" display.

    Depends on what you do mount wise

    If he doesn't want a Kindle, an iPad would be my next choice.

    Same problem with pdfs

    My 5th generation Air is a bit heavy,

    Doesnt matter if you use a mount

    but a 3rd generation Air would be fine.

    But not for pdfs

    I have no trouble viewing PDFs on the iPad.

    You dont get the same paging as you do with kindles
    and don't have the same control over fonts etc as you
    do with a PC

    Does that really matter when reading a book?

    Yep. much more convenient to page like kindles
    do with kindle ebooks
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  • From Peter Jason@pj@jostle.com to aus.computers on Mon Jan 26 07:51:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 08:44:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in >>>>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat
    Pro)

    But its pain to scroll in a particular pdf with a touch
    screen compared with the scroll wheel on a mouse

    The Acrobat pro XI has a thumbnail column at the left to assist
    scrolling.

    But that requires you to raise your hand to the screen
    So? Books do not require constant scrolling given it takes time to
    read a page. For the rest I use the on-screen keyboard to sort books
    into relevant folders. Anyway I can aways plug in a mouse or
    keyboard if required. And for movies I use headphones.

    A mouse with a scroll wheel doesnt

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB
    connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the >>>>>>>> computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7 >>>>>>>> laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>>>> screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.computers on Mon Jan 26 08:37:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: aus.computers

    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
    Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

    My 10-year old surface pro4 is starting to swell at one end, >>>>>>>>>>>>> probably the battery.

    Certainly the battery

    I'm thinking of ditching it and using a NUC with an
    extension lead to a touch-screen monitor,

    Why do you need and extension lead with something that small ?

    To separate the NUC from the touch screen. We like to read in >>>>>>>>>>> bed.

    I have over 1000 pdf books on the SurfacePro4

    Really no need to seperate something that small
    from the monitor, it would be trivial to attach it
    to whatever you have done for a monitor mount.

    Is a touch screen going to be viable when reading
    in bed ? Isnt your arm going to get tired ? Wouldnt
    you be better off with a mouse with a scroll wheel
    on your chest etc or even on a chopping board on
    the mattress ?

    It has Win11 latest. I use a screen keyboard, just like the
    SurfacePro.

    I was talking about reading a particular
    pdf, not selecting which one to read

    It will be the same as the SurfacePro, all are in pdf format (Acrobat >>>>> Pro)

    But its a pain to scroll in a particular pdf with a touch
    screen compared with the scroll wheel on a mouse

    The Acrobat pro XI has a thumbnail column at the left to assist
    scrolling.

    But that requires you to raise your hand to the screen

    So?

    So your arm gets tired quickly

    Books do not require constant scrolling given it takes time to
    read a page.

    But unless you still read with your lips still
    moving, you do need to scroll quite a bit

    For the rest I use the on-screen keyboardto sort books into relevant folders.

    Yeah but you scroll a lot more than you do that

    Anyway I can aways plug in a mouse or
    keyboard if required.

    Yeah but that's better than using the touch screen for scrolling

    And for movies I use headphones.

    Sure, its only a problem for pdfs

    A mouse with a scroll wheel doesnt

    Depends how heavy the touch screen is.

    Nope, any 20" touch screen wont be too heavy
    to be able to share the mount with the NUC

    Anyway I can do it either way.

    I want the NUC under the bed with jst the one cable/power USB >>>>>>>>> connection. WiFi might be possible too. I'll check with the >>>>>>>>> computer shop.

    Most arrangements will be better than spending thousands on a i7 >>>>>>>>> laptop.

    Sure

    since I have the NUC8BEH
    already (with the thunderbolt3). I can get a larger touch >>>>>>>>>>>>> screen
    far cheaper than a new laptop. Is all this possible,

    Yep
    https://www.google.com/search?q=does+nuc8beh+support+touchscreen+monitor

    and with just the one extension lead?

    Yep when you use the usb-C port, but the monitor
    has to support that, not all touch screen monitors do

    Hmmm...I'll look about for a 20" monitor
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