Chinese cars security.--
Chinese cars security.
Old news. It has been on the minds of those in the US for some time now.
US car companies are demanding a permanent ban on Chinese cars.
The Chinese have banned US EVs such as Tesla from operating in certain
areas due to their own security concerns which, in short, means that
Chinese are already using their cars for spying and data gathering on
the US. If you think the same thing won't happen here you're just plain naive.
A security portal with no password, that's no accident, that is deliberate.
On 21/9/2026 1:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Chinese cars security.
On 21/09/2026 4:29 pm, Xeno wrote:
Old news. It has been on the minds of those in the US for some time
now. US car companies are demanding a permanent ban on Chinese cars.
Of course it has been a worry for some time, I am just pointing out
that there is a TV program on the subject tonight that some people
here may be interested in watching. What do I get in return? Just the
usual demeaning crap.
The Chinese have banned US EVs such as Tesla from operating in
certain areas due to their own security concerns which, in short,
means that Chinese are already using their cars for spying and data
gathering on the US. If you think the same thing won't happen here
you're just plain naive.
A security portal with no password, that's no accident, that is
deliberate.
On 21/9/2026 1:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Chinese cars security.
Chinese cars security.
On 21/09/2026 4:29 pm, Xeno wrote:
Old news. It has been on the minds of those in the US for some time
now. US car companies are demanding a permanent ban on Chinese cars.
Of course it has been a worry for some time, I am just pointing out that there is a TV program on the subject tonight that some people here may
be interested in watching. What do I get in return? Just the usual
demeaning crap.
The Chinese have banned US EVs such as Tesla from operating in certain
areas due to their own security concerns which, in short, means that
Chinese are already using their cars for spying and data gathering on
the US. If you think the same thing won't happen here you're just
plain naive.
A security portal with no password, that's no accident, that is
deliberate.
On 21/9/2026 1:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Chinese cars security.
Chinese cars security.
Keithr0 wrote:
Of course it has been a worry for some time, I am just pointing out
that there is a TV program on the subject tonight that some people
here may be interested in watching. What do I get in return? Just the
usual demeaning crap.
neva mind keefy. have a valium, and a good lie down, lol. or a scotch if
you prefer. I'll watch it
On 21/9/2026 1:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Chinese cars security.
I saw the article in this mornings news.
I always thought that internet connected cars were a very bad idea and
isn't just Chinese cars that could be a problem.
Not likely to be a problem for most of the population but very bad for people such as MP's or business people with commercial secrets.
On 21/09/2026 4:35 pm, Daryl wrote:You're an ignorant little man living in your own pretend world Darren.
On 21/9/2026 1:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Chinese cars security.
I saw the article in this mornings news.
I always thought that internet connected cars were a very bad idea and
isn't just Chinese cars that could be a problem.
It's in most cars these days. My Ranger does it, and so does the Sorento.
Not likely to be a problem for most of the population but very bad for
people such as MP's or business people with commercial secrets.
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more than
they need to.
On 21/09/2026 4:35 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 21/9/2026 1:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Chinese cars security.
I saw the article in this mornings news.
I always thought that internet connected cars were a very bad idea and
isn't just Chinese cars that could be a problem.
It's in most cars these days. My Ranger does it, and so does the Sorento.
Not likely to be a problem for most of the population but very bad for
people such as MP's or business people with commercial secrets.
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more than
they need to.
On 21/9/2026 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 21/09/2026 4:35 pm, Daryl wrote:Certainly needs some careful consideration.
On 21/9/2026 1:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Chinese cars security.
I saw the article in this mornings news.
I always thought that internet connected cars were a very bad idea
and isn't just Chinese cars that could be a problem.
It's in most cars these days. My Ranger does it, and so does the Sorento.
Not likely to be a problem for most of the population but very bad
for people such as MP's or business people with commercial secrets.
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more
than they need to.
Amazing how science fiction sometimes predicts the future, I recently
went to the movies with my son and grandsons to see Terminator 2, it was
the films 35 anniversary so there was special showing with some extra footage, I can't imagine that AI will get so out of control as "Skynet"
but it certainly needs to be keep under control.
On 21/09/2026 4:35 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 21/9/2026 1:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Chinese cars security.
I saw the article in this mornings news.
I always thought that internet connected cars were a very bad idea and
isn't just Chinese cars that could be a problem.
It's in most cars these days. My Ranger does it, and so does the Sorento.
Not likely to be a problem for most of the population but very bad for
people such as MP's or business people with commercial secrets.
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more than
they need to.
On 21/09/2026 6:16 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
Of course it has been a worry for some time, I am just pointing out
that there is a TV program on the subject tonight that some people
here may be interested in watching. What do I get in return? Just
the usual demeaning crap.
neva mind keefy. have a valium, and a good lie down, lol. or a scotch
if you prefer. I'll watch it
And what will you come away with, Felix? Bearing in mind that you're
the bloke who complained about how easy it was to get fooled by online scammers, yet whinged when I gave you a solution to make it safe? :)
Noddy wrote:
On 21/09/2026 6:16 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
Of course it has been a worry for some time, I am just pointing out
that there is a TV program on the subject tonight that some people
here may be interested in watching. What do I get in return? Just
the usual demeaning crap.
neva mind keefy. have a valium, and a good lie down, lol. or a scotch
if you prefer. I'll watch it
And what will you come away with, Felix? Bearing in mind that you're
the bloke who complained about how easy it was to get fooled by online
scammers, yet whinged when I gave you a solution to make it safe? :)
what are you babbling about?
On 21/9/2026 10:43 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:Babbling? Lying? Bullshitting? It's all the same to Darren!
On 21/09/2026 6:16 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
Of course it has been a worry for some time, I am just pointing
out that there is a TV program on the subject tonight that some
people here may be interested in watching. What do I get in
return? Just the usual demeaning crap.
neva mind keefy. have a valium, and a good lie down, lol. or a
scotch if you prefer. I'll watch it
And what will you come away with, Felix? Bearing in mind that you're
the bloke who complained about how easy it was to get fooled by
online scammers, yet whinged when I gave you a solution to make it
safe? :)
what are you babbling about?
Xeno wrote:
On 21/9/2026 10:43 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:Babbling? Lying? Bullshitting? It's all the same to Darren!
On 21/09/2026 6:16 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
Of course it has been a worry for some time, I am just pointing
out that there is a TV program on the subject tonight that some
people here may be interested in watching. What do I get in
return? Just the usual demeaning crap.
neva mind keefy. have a valium, and a good lie down, lol. or a
scotch if you prefer. I'll watch it
And what will you come away with, Felix? Bearing in mind that you're
the bloke who complained about how easy it was to get fooled by
online scammers, yet whinged when I gave you a solution to make it
safe? :)
what are you babbling about?
I suppose it's the same as always. a grain of fact turned into a
mountain of BS
Babbling? Lying? Bullshitting? It's all the same to Darren!
On 21/09/2026 6:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more
than they need to.
You would say that but then you live with your head up your own clacker.
Noddy wrote:
On 21/09/2026 6:16 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
Of course it has been a worry for some time, I am just pointing out
that there is a TV program on the subject tonight that some people
here may be interested in watching. What do I get in return? Just
the usual demeaning crap.
neva mind keefy. have a valium, and a good lie down, lol. or a scotch
if you prefer. I'll watch it
And what will you come away with, Felix? Bearing in mind that you're
the bloke who complained about how easy it was to get fooled by online
scammers, yet whinged when I gave you a solution to make it safe? :)
what are you babbling about?
Xeno wrote:
On 21/9/2026 10:43 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:Babbling? Lying? Bullshitting? It's all the same to Darren!
On 21/09/2026 6:16 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
Of course it has been a worry for some time, I am just pointing
out that there is a TV program on the subject tonight that some
people here may be interested in watching. What do I get in
return? Just the usual demeaning crap.
neva mind keefy. have a valium, and a good lie down, lol. or a
scotch if you prefer. I'll watch it
And what will you come away with, Felix? Bearing in mind that you're
the bloke who complained about how easy it was to get fooled by
online scammers, yet whinged when I gave you a solution to make it
safe? :)
what are you babbling about?
I suppose it's the same as always. a grain of fact turned into a
mountain of BS
On 21/9/2026 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 21/09/2026 4:35 pm, Daryl wrote:Certainly needs some careful consideration.
On 21/9/2026 1:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Chinese cars security.
I saw the article in this mornings news.
I always thought that internet connected cars were a very bad idea
and isn't just Chinese cars that could be a problem.
It's in most cars these days. My Ranger does it, and so does the Sorento.
Not likely to be a problem for most of the population but very bad
for people such as MP's or business people with commercial secrets.
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more
than they need to.
Amazing how science fiction sometimes predicts the future, I recently
went to the movies with my son and grandsons to see Terminator 2, it was
the films 35 anniversary so there was special showing with some extra footage, I can't imagine that AI will get so out of control as "Skynet"
but it certainly needs to be keep under control.
On 21/09/2026 10:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 21/09/2026 6:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more
than they need to.
You would say that but then you live with your head up your own clacker.
Oh, cool. Feel free to fill us all in on the dangers as you know them to
be.
Take all the time you need....
On 22-Sep-26 7:48 AM, Noddy wrote:
On 21/09/2026 10:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 21/09/2026 6:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more
than they need to.
You would say that but then you live with your head up your own clacker.
Oh, cool. Feel free to fill us all in on the dangers as you know them
to be.
Take all the time you need....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
-a-a Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink...(Alas, a
tad late) >
On 22-Sep-26 7:48 AM, Noddy wrote:
On 21/09/2026 10:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 21/09/2026 6:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more
than they need to.
You would say that but then you live with your head up your own clacker.
Oh, cool. Feel free to fill us all in on the dangers as you know them
to be.
Take all the time you need....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
-a-a Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink...(Alas, a
tad late) >
On 21/09/2026 10:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 21/09/2026 6:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more
than they need to.
You would say that but then you live with your head up your own clacker.
Oh, cool. Feel free to fill us all in on the dangers as you know them to
be.
Take all the time you need....
On 21/09/2026 4:29 pm, Xeno wrote:
Old news. It has been on the minds of those in the US for some time
now. US car companies are demanding a permanent ban on Chinese cars.
Of course it has been a worry for some time, I am just pointing out that there is a TV program on the subject tonight that some people here may
be interested in watching. What do I get in return? Just the usual
demeaning crap.
Big problem is how much power and water they use, on one hand we are
closing down big power generators when demand for power is increasing
very significantly and water has always been in short supply in many
places in Australia so its going to get interesting.
On 21/09/2026 6:16 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
Of course it has been a worry for some time, I am just pointing out
that there is a TV program on the subject tonight that some people
here may be interested in watching. What do I get in return? Just the
usual demeaning crap.
neva mind keefy. have a valium, and a good lie down, lol. or a scotch
if you prefer. I'll watch it
And what will you come away with, Felix? Bearing in mind that you're the bloke who complained about how easy it was to get fooled by online
scammers, yet whinged when I gave you a solution to make it safe? :)
Noddy wrote:
On 21/09/2026 6:16 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
Of course it has been a worry for some time, I am just pointing out
that there is a TV program on the subject tonight that some people
here may be interested in watching. What do I get in return? Just
the usual demeaning crap.
neva mind keefy. have a valium, and a good lie down, lol. or a
scotch if you prefer. I'll watch it
And what will you come away with, Felix? Bearing in mind that you're
the bloke who complained about how easy it was to get fooled by
online scammers, yet whinged when I gave you a solution to make it
safe? :)
I forget, did you ever admit to felix that he proved you were wrong
about your fab New Car Buying Plan?
On 21-Sep-26 10:16 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 21/9/2026 8:18 pm, Noddy wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 21/09/2026 4:35 pm, Daryl wrote:Certainly needs some careful consideration.
On 21/9/2026 1:07 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Chinese cars security.
I saw the article in this mornings news.
I always thought that internet connected cars were a very bad idea
and isn't just Chinese cars that could be a problem.
It's in most cars these days. My Ranger does it, and so does the
Sorento.
Not likely to be a problem for most of the population but very bad
for people such as MP's or business people with commercial secrets.
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more
than they need to.
Amazing how science fiction sometimes predicts the future, I recently
went to the movies with my son and grandsons to see Terminator 2, it
was the films 35 anniversary so there was special showing with some
extra footage, I can't imagine that AI will get so out of control as
"Skynet" but it certainly needs to be keep under control.
Methinks the Cat is already out of the bag!. Check out *level five*!!...
noddy admit to being wrong? shirley you jest..
On 22/09/2026 5:48 am, Noddy wrote:
On 21/09/2026 10:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 21/09/2026 6:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more
than they need to.
You would say that but then you live with your head up your own clacker.
Oh, cool. Feel free to fill us all in on the dangers as you know them
to be.
Take all the time you need....
You're ineducable so it's pointless. You'll just deny any facts as you always do.
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
On 22/09/2026 12:14 pm, Clocky wrote:Oh the absolute *irony*! You, of all people, accusing someone else of *avoidance*. Whilst on the subject of *avoidance*, how about those trade registration numbers? And, while you're at it, nip on down to PROV and complain about your *missing* apprenticeship and TAFE records. I mean,
On 22/09/2026 5:48 am, Noddy wrote:
On 21/09/2026 10:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 21/09/2026 6:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more
than they need to.
You would say that but then you live with your head up your own
clacker.
Oh, cool. Feel free to fill us all in on the dangers as you know them
to be.
Take all the time you need....
You're ineducable so it's pointless. You'll just deny any facts as you
always do.
Your avoidance has been noted. Thanks.
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response.
On 22/9/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 22/09/2026 12:14 pm, Clocky wrote:Oh the absolute *irony*! You, of all people, accusing someone else of *avoidance*. Whilst on the subject of *avoidance*, how about those trade registration numbers? And, while you're at it, nip on down to PROV and complain about your *missing* apprenticeship and TAFE records. I mean,
On 22/09/2026 5:48 am, Noddy wrote:
On 21/09/2026 10:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 21/09/2026 6:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more >>>>>> than they need to.
You would say that but then you live with your head up your own
clacker.
Oh, cool. Feel free to fill us all in on the dangers as you know
them to be.
Take all the time you need....
You're ineducable so it's pointless. You'll just deny any facts as
you always do.
Your avoidance has been noted. Thanks.
how could they lose a dozen or more records generated over quite a a
number of years and at different colleges.
On 22/09/2026 9:32 pm, Xeno wrote:
So you found noddy's reply insightful enough to warrant a reply.
On 22/9/2026 8:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 22/09/2026 12:14 pm, Clocky wrote:Oh the absolute *irony*! You, of all people, accusing someone else of
On 22/09/2026 5:48 am, Noddy wrote:
On 21/09/2026 10:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 21/09/2026 6:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way
more than they need to.
You would say that but then you live with your head up your own
clacker.
Oh, cool. Feel free to fill us all in on the dangers as you know
them to be.
Take all the time you need....
You're ineducable so it's pointless. You'll just deny any facts as
you always do.
Your avoidance has been noted. Thanks.
*avoidance*. Whilst on the subject of *avoidance*, how about those
trade registration numbers? And, while you're at it, nip on down to
PROV and complain about your *missing* apprenticeship and TAFE
records. I mean, how could they lose a dozen or more records generated
over quite a a number of years and at different colleges.
On 22/09/2026 12:14 pm, Clocky wrote:As has been noted, you're an uneducated moron but slap your brain around
On 22/09/2026 5:48 am, Noddy wrote:
On 21/09/2026 10:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 21/09/2026 6:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more
than they need to.
You would say that but then you live with your head up your own
clacker.
Oh, cool. Feel free to fill us all in on the dangers as you know them
to be.
Take all the time you need....
You're ineducable so it's pointless. You'll just deny any facts as you
always do.
Your avoidance has been noted. Thanks.
On 22/09/2026 10:45 am, jonz wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~
On 22-Sep-26 7:48 AM, Noddy wrote:
On 21/09/2026 10:40 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 21/09/2026 6:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
I think like the "dangers" of AI, people are knee jerking way more
than they need to.
You would say that but then you live with your head up your own
clacker.
Oh, cool. Feel free to fill us all in on the dangers as you know them
to be.
Take all the time you need....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
-a-a-a Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the
landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink...(Alas,
a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see complaining
about "AI" taking over and watching their every move seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a smart phone in their pocket
with Google listening in 24/7....
On 22-Sep-26 11:20 AM, Noddy wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
-a-a-a Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the
landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink...
(Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see complaining
about "AI" taking over and watching their every move seem to be the
same people who are happy to walk around with a smart phone in their
pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.>
On 23/09/2026 10:09 am, jonz wrote:
On 22-Sep-26 11:20 AM, Noddy wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
-a-a-a Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the
landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink...
(Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move seem
to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a smart phone
in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.>
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
On 23/09/2026 10:09 am, jonz wrote:
On 22-Sep-26 11:20 AM, Noddy wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the
landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink...
(Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see complaining >>> about "AI" taking over and watching their every move seem to be the
same people who are happy to walk around with a smart phone in their
pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.>
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in on
our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy.
Yet here we are all rocking that shit
and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening,
but we don't complain because we don't take any notice.
Yet suddenly because we want to putit all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry when--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
I see something worth worrying about.
On 23/09/2026 10:09 am, jonz wrote:You're not clever enough to even see something worth worrying about -
On 22-Sep-26 11:20 AM, Noddy wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
-a-a-a Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the
landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink...
(Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move seem
to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a smart phone
in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.>
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in on
our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet
here we are all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we don't
take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry when
I see something worth worrying about.
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response.
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo schoolgirls. He has
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response.
never once posted any useful information about anything, and the only
posts about cars that he has made have been to boast about owning an
Audi and a Merc.
On 23/09/2026 10:09 am, jonz wrote:
On 22-Sep-26 11:20 AM, Noddy wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
-a-a-a Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the
landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink...
(Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move seem
to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a smart phone
in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.>
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in on
our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet
here we are all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we don't
take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry when
I see something worth worrying about.
On 23/09/2026 10:09 am, jonz wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 22-Sep-26 11:20 AM, Noddy wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
-a-a-a Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the
landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink...
(Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move seem
to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a smart phone
in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.>
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in on
our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet
here we are all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we don't
take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry when
I see something worth worrying about.
On 23/9/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 10:09 am, jonz wrote:
On 22-Sep-26 11:20 AM, Noddy wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
-a-a-a Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the >>>>> landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink...
(Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move
seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a smart
phone in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.>
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in on
our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet
here we are all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis and
cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts
where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we don't
take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it all in a big
building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry
when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI could doing some major damage to the world but he didn't think that it will
happen simply because the billionaires that run/control the AI could be
at risk of loosing all their money so they will pull the plug on it if
there is any sign of that happening.
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their massive incomes.
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the
landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink... >>>>>> (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move
seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a smart >>>>> phone in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in on >>> our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet >>> here we are all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis and
cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts
where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we don't
take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it all in a big
building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry
when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI could
doing some major damage to the world
but he didn't think that it will happen simply because the billionaires
that run/control the AI could be at risk of loosing all their money so
they will pull the plug on it if there is any sign of that happening.
How naive!
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their massive
incomes.
On 23/09/2026 10:08 am, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 10:09 am, jonz wrote:
On 22-Sep-26 11:20 AM, Noddy wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
-a-a-a Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the >>>>> landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink...
(Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move
seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a
smart phone in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.>
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
That's why smart people listen to the experts, in particular those
involved with designing AI who are now ringing the alarm bells, and
not an ignorant dumbarse like you.
On 23/09/2026 10:09 am, jonz wrote:
On 22-Sep-26 11:20 AM, Noddy wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
-a-a-a Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the
landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink...
(Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move seem
to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a smart phone
in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.>
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in on
our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet
here we are all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we don't
take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry when
I see something worth worrying about.
On 23/09/2026 10:08 am, Noddy wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~
Have a closer look!!.>
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
That's why smart people listen to the experts, in particular those
involved with designing AI who are now ringing the alarm bells, and not
an ignorant dumbarse like you.
he always thinks he knows better. and better than experts in this case
On 23/9/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry
when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI could doing some major damage to the world but he didn't think that it will
happen simply because the billionaires that run/control the AI could be
at risk of loosing all their money so they will pull the plug on it if
there is any sign of that happening.
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their massive incomes.
On 23/09/2026 12:31 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 10:08 am, Noddy wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~
Have a closer look!!.>
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
That's why smart people listen to the experts, in particular those
involved with designing AI who are now ringing the alarm bells, and
not an ignorant dumbarse like you.
Apparently you never listened to the "experts" when they were discussing windscreen composition....
On 23/09/2026 5:45 pm, Axel wrote:
he always thinks he knows better. and better than experts in this case
No Felix. That's *your* bullshit. I never claimed to know more about AI
than anyone. What I said was that I'm not bothered by it.
Either update your comprehension skills, or just shut the fuck up.
On 22-Sep-26 7:48 AM, Noddy wrote:
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their
every move seem to be the same people who are happy to walk
around with a smart phone in their pocket with Google
listening in 24/7....
On 23/09/2026 3:19 pm, Daryl wrote:What? AI is, quite simply, *Artificial Intelligence*! Oh, ok, I get
On 23/9/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry
when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI
could doing some major damage to the world but he didn't think that it
will happen simply because the billionaires that run/control the AI
could be at risk of loosing all their money so they will pull the plug
on it if there is any sign of that happening.
Sounds about right. No different to anything else really :)
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their massive
incomes.
It depends on what it's "thing" actually is. "AI" is a pretty broad broom....
On 23/09/2026 5:45 pm, Axel wrote:
he always thinks he knows better. and better than experts in this case
No Felix. That's *your* bullshit. I never claimed to know more about
AI than anyone.
What I said was that I'm not bothered by it.
Either update your comprehension skills, or just shut the fuck up.
Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 5:45 pm, Axel wrote:
he always thinks he knows better. and better than experts in this case
No Felix. That's *your* bullshit. I never claimed to know more about
AI than anyone.
I never said you did
What I said was that I'm not bothered by it.
you said you're not seeing a problem, but experts say there is one. so either you're too stupid to see the problem, or you think you know
better that there isn't one
Either update your comprehension skills, or just shut the fuck up.
likewise
On 23/09/2026 3:19 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 23/9/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry
when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI
could doing some major damage to the world but he didn't think that it
will happen simply because the billionaires that run/control the AI
could be at risk of loosing all their money so they will pull the plug
on it if there is any sign of that happening.
Sounds about right. No different to anything else really :)
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their massive
incomes.
It depends on what it's "thing" actually is. "AI" is a pretty broad broom....
On 23/09/2026 10:09 am, jonz wrote:
On 22-Sep-26 11:20 AM, Noddy wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
-a-a-a Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the
landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink...
(Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move seem
to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a smart phone
in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.>
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in on
our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet
here we are all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we don't
take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry when
I see something worth worrying about.
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the slightest
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response.
insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo schoolgirls. He has
never once posted any useful information about anything, and the only
posts about cars that he has made have been to boast about owning an
Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho...
Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim you got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally dishonest dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone again how much smarter you
are.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's presence,Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in on
our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 5:45 pm, Axel wrote:
he always thinks he knows better. and better than experts in this case
No Felix. That's *your* bullshit. I never claimed to know more about
AI than anyone.
I never said you did
What I said was that I'm not bothered by it.
you said you're not seeing a problem, but experts say there is one. so either you're too stupid to see the problem, or you think you know
better that there isn't one
Either update your comprehension skills, or just shut the fuck up.
likewise
Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 5:45 pm, Axel wrote:
he always thinks he knows better. and better than experts in this case
No Felix. That's *your* bullshit. I never claimed to know more about
AI than anyone.
I never said you did
he always thinks he knows better
What I said was that I'm not bothered by it.
you said you're not seeing a problem,
but experts say there is one. so
either you're too stupid to see the problem, or you think you know
better that there isn't one
He's a full blown retard.
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in
on our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's presence,
so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
On 23/9/2026 7:58 pm, Noddy wrote:
It depends on what it's "thing" actually is. "AI" is a pretty broadCertainly is, the company he works for uses AI in the human brain
broom....
mapping tech that neurosurgeons use to reduce collateral damage when
they do brain surgery, without AI the tech doesn't work so its actually
a very useful tool that can save lives.
On 23/09/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worryThe fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate the
when I see something worth worrying about.
"Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of software deciding
who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated that a
Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle East, the Yanks
were ready to intercept it, when a human interceded. Such incidents can
lead to wars.
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in on >>> our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's presence,
so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026 >>>> we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in
on our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's presence,
so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Google will often "auto complete" the very thing you were just talking about after you enter one word into the search bar. If that's not
listening in, then I'm fucked if I know what is :)
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
It depends on what it's "thing" actually is. "AI" is a pretty broad
broom....
Certainly is, the company he works for uses AI in the human brain
mapping tech that neurosurgeons use to reduce collateral damage when
they do brain surgery, without AI the tech doesn't work so its actually
a very useful tool that can save lives.
It's an extremely useful tool that will bring about some *massive* benefits. For example people in the medical research field are tipping
that AI will cure cancer within the next ten years as it creates complex DNA modelling and cellular changes that human beings cannot hope to
create on their own.
There are also other cases where AI is on the verge of medical breakthroughs for the treatment of brain conditions like Motor Neuron Disease and Alzheimers,
and AI currently used in medical practice makes early detection of--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
things like heart disease and stroke *far* more reliable than human intervention alone.
It certainly has *many* practical uses that can be used for the
betterment of mankind. But like any tool, it can be used in the wrong
way, either by accident or deliberately, and have a negative effect.
Am I bothered by that? No. I'm aware that it's a very topical thing to
be bashing at the moment, and the media loves jumping all over something like this if they think there is a prejudice to be pandered to. As I
said I'll worry when there is something to actually worry about, but for now I can't see *any* evidence that Skynet is going to become self aware and start sending armies of Terminators out there to take care of us :)
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response.
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information about
anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made have been to
boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows that
you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes back at you
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho...
Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim you
got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally dishonest
dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone again how
much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same, oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes,
look here's a picture of them both together" isn't boasting? What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look and see that
I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
On 23/09/2026 8:44 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response.
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information about
anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made have been
to boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows that
you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes back at you >>> Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho...
Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim you
got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally dishonest
dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone again how
much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same, oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes,
look here's a picture of them both together" isn't boasting? What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and
banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look and
see that I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
Of course it's not boasting you twat. Your pathetic attempts at
namedropping and exaggerating your "achievements" in life are *failed* attempts at boasting to stroke your own ego which, evidently, is
extremely fragile and bruises very easily.
What a little hypocrite you are boy.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
You've upset yourself.
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in
on our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the
landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink... >>>>>>> (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move
seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a
smart phone in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Me neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in
on our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit
crazy. Yet here we are all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis and
cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts
where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we don't
take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it all in a big
building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry
when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI
could doing some major damage to the world
How is he suggesting that that might happen ?
but he didn't think that it will happen simply because the
billionaires that run/control the AI could be at risk of loosing all
their money so they will pull the plug on it if there is any sign of
that happening.
He's right about that
How naive!
Bullshit
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their massive
incomes.
On 23/9/2026 7:58 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 3:19 pm, Daryl wrote:What? AI is, quite simply, *Artificial Intelligence*! Oh, ok, I get
On 23/9/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry
when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI
could doing some major damage to the world but he didn't think that
it will happen simply because the billionaires that run/control the
AI could be at risk of loosing all their money so they will pull the
plug on it if there is any sign of that happening.
Sounds about right. No different to anything else really :)
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their massive
incomes.
It depends on what it's "thing" actually is. "AI" is a pretty broad
broom....
where it's confusing you. You aren't intelligent enough to know what intelligence even is.
Like anything in the IT industry, the first issues with AI will come
from its *application* in the field.
https://www.ibm.com/think/insights/10-ai-dangers-and-risks-and-how-to- manage-them
Apart from BIAS in AI training, the bulk of the issues stem from
application of AI.
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026 >>>>> we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in >>>>> on our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
On 23/09/2026 9:37 pm, Daryl wrote:In the news today
On 23/9/2026 7:58 pm, Noddy wrote:
It depends on what it's "thing" actually is. "AI" is a pretty broadCertainly is, the company he works for uses AI in the human brain
broom....
mapping tech that neurosurgeons use to reduce collateral damage when
they do brain surgery, without AI the tech doesn't work so its
actually a very useful tool that can save lives.
It's an extremely useful tool that will bring about some *massive*
benefits. For example people in the medical research field are tipping
that AI will cure cancer within the next ten years as it creates complex
DNA modelling and cellular changes that human beings cannot hope to
create on their own. There are also other cases where AI is on the verge
of medical breakthroughs for the treatment of brain conditions like
Motor Neuron Disease and Alzheimers, and AI currently used in medical practice makes early detection of things like heart disease and stroke
*far* more reliable than human intervention alone.
It certainly has *many* practical uses that can be used for the
betterment of mankind. But like any tool, it can be used in the wrong
way, either by accident or deliberately, and have a negative effect.
Am I bothered by that? No. I'm aware that it's a very topical thing to
be bashing at the moment, and the media loves jumping all over something like this if they think there is a prejudice to be pandered to. As I
said I'll worry when there is something to actually worry about, but for
now I can't see *any* evidence that Skynet is going to become self aware
and start sending armies of Terminators out there to take care of us :)
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the >>>>>>>> landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink... >>>>>>>> (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move >>>>>>> seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a >>>>>>> smart phone in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Me neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026 >>>>> we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in >>>>> on our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit
crazy. Yet here we are all rocking that shit and no one blinks an
eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis and >>>>> cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts >>>>> where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we don't >>>>> take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it all in a big >>>>> building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry >>>>> when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI
could doing some major damage to the world
How is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a whole lot of
havoc.
Even simple systems doing autonomous high frequency trading have caused problems in stock markets on occasion.
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2but he didn't think that it will happen simply because the
billionaires that run/control the AI could be at risk of loosing all >>>> their money so they will pull the plug on it if there is any sign of >>>> that happening.
He's right about that
How naive!
Bullshit
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their massive >>>> incomes.
On 23/09/2026 11:42 pm, Noddy wrote:
In the news today
An artificial intelligence agent infiltrated a Medicare website in June, accessing public and non-public files and writing files to an internal server, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has revealed.
Speaking to reporters in New York, Albanese said the incident involved
an OpenAI agent gaining unauthorised access to the public-facing
Medicare Statistics Reporting Service portal, administered by Services Australia.
Edge of the wedge?
On 23/09/2026 8:37 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 23/9/2026 7:58 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 3:19 pm, Daryl wrote:What? AI is, quite simply, *Artificial Intelligence*! Oh, ok, I get
On 23/9/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry
when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI
could doing some major damage to the world but he didn't think that
it will happen simply because the billionaires that run/control the
AI could be at risk of loosing all their money so they will pull the
plug on it if there is any sign of that happening.
Sounds about right. No different to anything else really :)
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their massive
incomes.
It depends on what it's "thing" actually is. "AI" is a pretty broad
broom....
where it's confusing you. You aren't intelligent enough to know what
intelligence even is.
You obviously have no idea, "AI" is a broad term covering everything
from huge generative systems, down to small things that can run on a
small computer doing limited tasks. For instance running Open Claw on a Raspberry Pi.
Like anything in the IT industry, the first issues with AI will come
from its *application* in the field.
https://www.ibm.com/think/insights/10-ai-dangers-and-risks-and-how-to-
manage-them
Apart from BIAS in AI training, the bulk of the issues stem from
application of AI.
Noddy wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
It depends on what it's "thing" actually is. "AI" is a pretty broad
broom....
Certainly is, the company he works for uses AI in the human brain
mapping tech that neurosurgeons use to reduce collateral damage when
they do brain surgery, without AI the tech doesn't work so its
actually a very useful tool that can save lives.
It's an extremely useful tool that will bring about some *massive*
benefits. For example people in the medical research field are tipping
that AI will cure cancer within the next ten years as it creates
complex DNA modelling and cellular changes that human beings cannot
hope to create on their own. There are also other cases where AI is on
the verge of medical breakthroughs for the treatment of brain
conditions like Motor Neuron Disease and Alzheimers, and AI currently
used in medical practice makes early detection of things like heart
disease and stroke *far* more reliable than human intervention alone.
It certainly has *many* practical uses that can be used for the
betterment of mankind. But like any tool, it can be used in the wrong
way, either by accident or deliberately, and have a negative effect.
Am I bothered by that? No. I'm aware that it's a very topical thing to
be bashing at the moment, and the media loves jumping all over
something like this if they think there is a prejudice to be pandered
to. As I said I'll worry when there is something to actually worry
about, but for now I can't see *any* evidence that Skynet is going to
become self aware and start sending armies of Terminators out there to
take care of us :)
In the news today
An artificial intelligence agent infiltrated a Medicare website in June, accessing public and non-public files and writing files to an internal server, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has revealed.
Speaking to reporters in New York, Albanese said the incident involved
an OpenAI agent gaining unauthorised access to the public-facing
Medicare Statistics Reporting Service portal, administered by Services Australia.
Edge of the wedge?
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were
bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Google will often "auto complete" the very thing you were just
talking about after you enter one word into the search bar. If that's
not listening in, then I'm fucked if I know what is :)
It just knows common phrases
Nothing whatever to do with listening in to our conversations
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were
bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the >>>>>>>>> landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a
rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move >>>>>>>> seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a >>>>>>>> smart phone in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>> bat shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking that shit and no one
blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis and >>>>>> cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts >>>>>> where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we
don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it all >>>>>> in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry >>>>>> when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI
could doing some major damage to the world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a whole lot of
havoc.
Nope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
Even simple systems doing autonomous high frequency trading have
caused problems in stock markets on occasion.
And its trivial to turn those off
but he didn't think that it will happen simply because the
billionaires that run/control the AI could be at risk of loosing
all their money so they will pull the plug on it if there is any
sign of that happening.
-aHe's right about that
How naive!
-aBullshit
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their
massive incomes.
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>> bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in
on our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
On 24/9/2026 8:47 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 8:37 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 23/9/2026 7:58 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 3:19 pm, Daryl wrote:What? AI is, quite simply, *Artificial Intelligence*! Oh, ok, I get
On 23/9/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry >>>>>> when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI
could doing some major damage to the world but he didn't think that >>>>> it will happen simply because the billionaires that run/control the >>>>> AI could be at risk of loosing all their money so they will pull
the plug on it if there is any sign of that happening.
Sounds about right. No different to anything else really :)
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their
massive incomes.
It depends on what it's "thing" actually is. "AI" is a pretty broad
broom....
where it's confusing you. You aren't intelligent enough to know what
intelligence even is.
You obviously have no idea, "AI" is a broad term covering everything
Well aware.
from huge generative systems, down to small things that can run on a
small computer doing limited tasks. For instance running Open Claw on
a Raspberry Pi.
A mate up in Townsville is doing just that on a new Mac Mini M4 he
recently purchased. We have long online discussions about it. >
Like anything in the IT industry, the first issues with AI will come
from its *application* in the field.
https://www.ibm.com/think/insights/10-ai-dangers-and-risks-and-how-
to- manage-them
Apart from BIAS in AI training, the bulk of the issues stem from
application of AI.
On that we agree.
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>> bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's presence,Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in
on our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
On 24/09/2026 8:50 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:42 pm, Noddy wrote:
In the news today
An artificial intelligence agent infiltrated a Medicare website in
June, accessing public and non-public files and writing files to an
internal server, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has revealed.
Speaking to reporters in New York, Albanese said the incident involved
an OpenAI agent gaining unauthorised access to the public-facing
Medicare Statistics Reporting Service portal, administered by Services
Australia.
Edge of the wedge?
Hardly :)
Optus suffered one of the largest security breeches in Australian
business history not long ago, and AI had nothing to do with it.
If anything, an effective AI based security system most likely would have *prevented* it :)You don't need AI, you just need a system architected to prevent the
On 23/09/2026 9:37 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 23/9/2026 7:58 pm, Noddy wrote:
It depends on what it's "thing" actually is. "AI" is a pretty broadCertainly is, the company he works for uses AI in the human brain
broom....
mapping tech that neurosurgeons use to reduce collateral damage when
they do brain surgery, without AI the tech doesn't work so its
actually a very useful tool that can save lives.
It's an extremely useful tool that will bring about some *massive*
benefits. For example people in the medical research field are tipping
that AI will cure cancer within the next ten years as it creates complex
DNA modelling and cellular changes that human beings cannot hope to
create on their own. There are also other cases where AI is on the verge
of medical breakthroughs for the treatment of brain conditions like
Motor Neuron Disease and Alzheimers, and AI currently used in medical practice makes early detection of things like heart disease and stroke
*far* more reliable than human intervention alone.
It certainly has *many* practical uses that can be used for the
betterment of mankind. But like any tool, it can be used in the wrong
way, either by accident or deliberately, and have a negative effect.
Am I bothered by that?
be bashing at the moment, and the media loves jumping all over something like this if they think there is a prejudice to be pandered to. As I
said I'll worry when there is something to actually worry about, but for
now I can't see *any* evidence that Skynet is going to become self aware
and start sending armies of Terminators out there to take care of us :)
On 23/09/2026 10:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worryThe fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate the
when I see something worth worrying about.
"Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of software deciding
who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated that a
Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle East, the Yanks
were ready to intercept it, when a human interceded. Such incidents
can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were
bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
On 23/09/2026 4:07 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the
landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a rethink... >>>>>>>> (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see
complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move >>>>>>> seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a
smart phone in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Me neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were
bat shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking that shit and no one
blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis and
cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts
where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we
don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it all
in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry
when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI
could doing some major damage to the world
How is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a whole lot of
havoc. Even simple systems doing autonomous high frequency trading have caused problems in stock markets on occasion.
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the >>>>>>>>>> landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a
rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see >>>>>>>>> complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every move >>>>>>>>> seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around with a >>>>>>>>> smart phone in their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Me neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>>> bat shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking that shit and no one >>>>>>> blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis and >>>>>>> cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts >>>>>>> where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we >>>>>>> don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it all >>>>>>> in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry >>>>>>> when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI >>>>>> could doing some major damage to the world
How is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a whole lot of
havoc.
Nope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems wished to turn
them off.
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2Even simple systems doing autonomous high frequency trading have
caused problems in stock markets on occasion.
And its trivial to turn those off
but he didn't think that it will happen simply because the
billionaires that run/control the AI could be at risk of loosing >>>>>> all their money so they will pull the plug on it if there is any >>>>>> sign of that happening.
He's right about that
How naive!
Bullshit
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their
massive incomes.
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>>> bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android
I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those because they do their job better than anything else that I could find,
but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available
at a better price point.
On 23/09/2026 11:42 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:37 pm, Daryl wrote:In the news today
On 23/9/2026 7:58 pm, Noddy wrote:
It depends on what it's "thing" actually is. "AI" is a pretty broadCertainly is, the company he works for uses AI in the human brain
broom....
mapping tech that neurosurgeons use to reduce collateral damage when
they do brain surgery, without AI the tech doesn't work so its
actually a very useful tool that can save lives.
It's an extremely useful tool that will bring about some *massive*
benefits. For example people in the medical research field are tipping
that AI will cure cancer within the next ten years as it creates
complex DNA modelling and cellular changes that human beings cannot
hope to create on their own. There are also other cases where AI is on
the verge of medical breakthroughs for the treatment of brain
conditions like Motor Neuron Disease and Alzheimers, and AI currently
used in medical practice makes early detection of things like heart
disease and stroke *far* more reliable than human intervention alone.
It certainly has *many* practical uses that can be used for the
betterment of mankind. But like any tool, it can be used in the wrong
way, either by accident or deliberately, and have a negative effect.
Am I bothered by that? No. I'm aware that it's a very topical thing to
be bashing at the moment, and the media loves jumping all over
something like this if they think there is a prejudice to be pandered
to. As I said I'll worry when there is something to actually worry
about, but for now I can't see *any* evidence that Skynet is going to
become self aware and start sending armies of Terminators out there to
take care of us :)
An artificial intelligence agent infiltrated a Medicare website in June, accessing public and non-public files and writing files to an internal server, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has revealed.
Speaking to reporters in New York, Albanese said the incident involved
an OpenAI agent gaining unauthorised access to the public-facing
Medicare Statistics Reporting Service portal, administered by Services Australia.
Edge of the wedge?
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response.
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information about
anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made have been to
boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows that
you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes back at you
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho...
Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim you
got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally dishonest
dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone again how
much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same,
oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes,
look here's a picture of them both together" isn't boasting?
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look and see that
I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
What a little hypocrite you are boy.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026 >>>>> we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in >>>>> on our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
for a mediocre product like an iPhone.
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026 >>>> we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in
on our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's presence,
so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or Facebook and
an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>> bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
Apple phones are no different to Android devices when itcomes to
tracking or listening to what people are saying,
all the people I know who have Apple phones have the same issue with ads about a subject they recently talked about suddenly appearing.
On both sorts of devices it is possible to block those features if you
know how or care enough to bother.
On 24/09/2026 9:32 am, Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 8:47 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 8:37 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 23/9/2026 7:58 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 3:19 pm, Daryl wrote:What? AI is, quite simply, *Artificial Intelligence*! Oh, ok, I get
On 23/9/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll
worry when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI >>>>>> could doing some major damage to the world but he didn't think
that it will happen simply because the billionaires that run/
control the AI could be at risk of loosing all their money so they >>>>>> will pull the plug on it if there is any sign of that happening.
Sounds about right. No different to anything else really :)
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their
massive incomes.
It depends on what it's "thing" actually is. "AI" is a pretty broad >>>>> broom....
where it's confusing you. You aren't intelligent enough to know what
intelligence even is.
You obviously have no idea, "AI" is a broad term covering everything
Well aware.
That is not what your post inferred.
from huge generative systems, down to small things that can run on a
small computer doing limited tasks. For instance running Open Claw on
a Raspberry Pi.
A mate up in Townsville is doing just that on a new Mac Mini M4 he
recently purchased. We have long online discussions about it. >
If you want to do that, a RPi is much cheaper, has an open source
operating system and you can get an AI accelerator for it.
Like anything in the IT industry, the first issues with AI will come
from its *application* in the field.
https://www.ibm.com/think/insights/10-ai-dangers-and-risks-and-how-
to- manage-them
Apart from BIAS in AI training, the bulk of the issues stem from
application of AI.
On that we agree.
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in
on our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or Facebook and~~~~~~~~~~~~~
an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
On 24/9/2026 12:32 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Nope, I'm not an Apple snob, just someone for whom Apple gear does
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you
were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android
exactly what is required of it. Android was never able to do that for
me and was, in fact, highly frustrating.
On 23/9/2026 11:44 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 10:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
On 23/09/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worryThe fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate the
when I see something worth worrying about.
"Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of software
deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated that a
Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle East, the
Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human interceded. Such
incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry >>>>> when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate the
"Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of software deciding >>>> who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated that a
Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle East, the Yanks >>>> were ready to intercept it, when a human interceded. Such incidents
can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet controlled
by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
Daryl wrote:
On 23/9/2026 11:44 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 10:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
On 23/09/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worryThe fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate the
when I see something worth worrying about.
"Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of software
deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated that a
Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle East, the
Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human interceded. Such
incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet controlled
by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
On 24-Sep-26 1:18 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were
bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
-aAdblock +. No problems. ;)
Rod Speed wrote:
Google will often "auto complete" the very thing you were just
talking about after you enter one word into the search bar. If that's
not listening in, then I'm fucked if I know what is :)
It just knows common phrases
Nothing whatever to do with listening in to our conversations
exactly
On 24/09/2026 12:32 pm, Axel wrote:
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use AndroidI have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those because they do their job better than anything else that I could find
price point.
Xeno wrote:
Nope, I'm not an Apple snob, just someone for whom Apple gear does
exactly what is required of it. Android was never able to do that for
me and was, in fact, highly frustrating.
I should have said many Apple owners, not most
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
Daryl wrote:At least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
On 23/9/2026 11:44 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 10:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
On 23/09/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry >>>>>> when I see something worth worrying about.The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate the >>>>> "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of software
deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated that a
Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle East, the
Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human interceded. Such
incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet controlled
by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless lefty as
vice president. they chose the best option.
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by 2026
we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a mini
computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and listened in
on our conversations they would have thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or Facebook and
an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the >>>>>>>>>>> landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a
rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see >>>>>>>>>> complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every >>>>>>>>>> move seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around >>>>>>>>>> with a smart phone in their pocket with Google listening in >>>>>>>>>> 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you
were bat shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking that shit and >>>>>>>> no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis >>>>>>>> and cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" >>>>>>>> accounts where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we >>>>>>>> don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it >>>>>>>> all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll
worry when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI >>>>>>> could doing some major damage to the world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a whole lot of
havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems wished to turn
them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, not the phone
Even simple systems doing autonomous high frequency trading have
caused problems in stock markets on occasion.
-aAnd its trivial to turn those off
but he didn't think that it will happen simply because the
billionaires that run/control the AI could be at risk of loosing >>>>>>> all their money so they will pull the plug on it if there is any >>>>>>> sign of that happening.
-aHe's right about that
How naive!
-aBullshit
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their
massive incomes.
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wroteM
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>>> bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
Apple phones are no different to Android devices when itcomes to
tracking or listening to what people are saying,
Complete and utter drivel as you have just proved with
what you said about getting ads on utube or facebook
when you have discussed something with someone
in person. That doesn't happen with an iphone
I did get that when using the google search engine,
but that is because of the search text I used, not
because it listens to what I say to anyone and I
don't get that anymore now that I use grok instead
of the google search engine because its givens what
I want and I don't have to wade thru useless hits
all the people I know who have Apple phones have the same issue with ads >> about a subject they recently talked about suddenly appearing.
BULLSHIT
They are getting that result from google searches
after they have done that after discussing something
with someone else either in person or by phone
On both sorts of devices it is possible to block those features if you
know how or care enough to bother.
Don't need to with an iphone
On 24/09/2026 9:14 am, Noddy wrote:Assuming that's what actually happened. Albanese claimed it did, but
Edge of the wedge?
Hardly :)
Optus suffered one of the largest security breeches in Australian
business history not long ago, and AI had nothing to do with it.
Doing it with an AI is or will be soon, faster, easier, and more
accessible than doing it by hand.
On 24/09/2026 9:14 am, Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 8:50 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:42 pm, Noddy wrote:
In the news today
An artificial intelligence agent infiltrated a Medicare website in
June, accessing public and non-public files and writing files to an
internal server, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has revealed.
Speaking to reporters in New York, Albanese said the incident
involved an OpenAI agent gaining unauthorised access to the public-
facing Medicare Statistics Reporting Service portal, administered by
Services Australia.
Edge of the wedge?
Hardly :)
Optus suffered one of the largest security breeches in Australian
business history not long ago, and AI had nothing to do with it.
Doing it with an AI is or will be soon, faster, easier, and more
accessible than doing it by hand.
If anything, an effective AI based security system most likely wouldYou don't need AI, you just need a system architected to prevent the
have *prevented* it :)
mass exfiltration of data. It can be done, hopefully on high security
sites it is done, but most commercial entities don't seem to want to
bother.
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you
were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
-amost apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android
I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find,
Me too with the iphones
but-a-a iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available
Complete and utter bullshit with what can get into the app store,
whether you can sideload stuff, and the risk of infection
Samsungs are even worse with their app stores
at a better-a-a price point.
Another stupid like with the google pixels you stupidly bought
after google stopped handing them out for close to free
And with the samsungs other than their low end shit which you don't buy
On 24/09/2026 12:29 pm, Axel wrote:Predictive text Darren. It "learns" from what you have written
Rod Speed wrote:
Google will often "auto complete" the very thing you were just
talking about after you enter one word into the search bar. If
that's not listening in, then I'm fucked if I know what is :)
It just knows common phrases
Nothing whatever to do with listening in to our conversations
exactly
Bullshit :)
I cannot tell you how many times I have been talking about a specific
topic, and then picked up my phone to type in a question about it and it auto completes the question about that specific topic without me ever
typing in anything other than generic words like "how many" or "how
much" :)
On 23/9/2026 11:42 pm, Noddy wrote:
It certainly has *many* practical uses that can be used for the
betterment of mankind. But like any tool, it can be used in the wrong
way, either by accident or deliberately, and have a negative effect.
Am I bothered by that?
Not much point worrying about something that us mere mortals can do
anything about.
If people are worried about the only thing they can do of any
significance is talk to their MP about it and I can't imagine that too
many people will do that.
As I said I'll worry when there is something to actually worry
about, but for now I can't see *any* evidence that Skynet is going to
become self aware and start sending armies of Terminators out there to
take care of us :)
Terminators are fine as long as I am the one controlling them:-)
On 23/9/2026 11:44 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 10:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
On 23/09/2026 12:08 pm, Noddy wrote:
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worryThe fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate the
when I see something worth worrying about.
"Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of software deciding
who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated that a
Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle East, the Yanks
were ready to intercept it, when a human interceded. Such incidents
can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 12:32 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Nope, I'm not an Apple snob, just someone for whom Apple gear does
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wroteAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you
were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis. >>>>>
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android
exactly what is required of it. Android was never able to do that for
me and was, in fact, highly frustrating.
I should have said many Apple owners, not most
Daryl wrote:
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet controlled
by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet controlledAt least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless lefty as
vice president. they chose the best option.
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>> bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
-aAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
-aMine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
for a mediocre product like-a-a an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were
bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
Never happens with an iphone unless you use google as a search engine
Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response.
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information about
anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made have been
to boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows that
you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes back at you
Nope. Wrong again Retcho. I was taking the piss.
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho...
Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim you
got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally dishonest
dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone again how
much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same,
Annndd there goes his left foot. I posted that pic because another DATE member ('Derwyn", or something like that) said that I didn't actually
own one.
oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes, look here's a picture of
them both together" isn't boasting?
See above. Hilariously, 'Derwyn" repeatedly expresses doubts about my
news and the only way to stop him is to errrr provide proof. (Big sledge there DATErs)
What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and
banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look and
see that I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
You lot are so block-headed that you refuse to learn. Ok Retcho, cite
where I said that.
What a little hypocrite you are boy.
Well according to you, but bizzarely, that doesn't worry me.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
lol!
"upset me"? Why would I get "upset" by a clown who has to invent quotes
to try and make a point?
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll
worry when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate
the "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of software
deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated that a
Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle East, the
Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human interceded. Such
incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless
lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've mangled that completely
The first time the alternative to trump was clinton and she wasn't senile
The second time Biden actually won
The third time Harris wasn't senile
On 24/9/2026 3:48 pm, jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 1:18 PM, Daryl wrote:I used to use Adblock but then YouTube almost won't work with it in
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>> bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
-a-aAdblock +. No problems. ;)
use so I deleted it, tried another ad blocker and the arseholes took
my money but the program won't work so I'm over ad blockers.
On 24/09/2026 1:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 12:32 pm, Axel wrote:
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use AndroidI have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find
What have you compared them to specifically?
, but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available at a better
price point.
I wouldn't have an Iphone if you gave me one for free.
In fact I don't like Apple products at all.
On 24/09/2026 3:59 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
Nope, I'm not an Apple snob, just someone for whom Apple gear does
exactly what is required of it. Android was never able to do that
for me and was, in fact, highly frustrating.
I should have said many Apple owners, not most
ROTFL :)
You've offended your puppeteer Felix. Watch out pal, as the next fist
up your arse is likely to not be lubricated :)
On 24/09/2026 1:18 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were
bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
Yep. They listen in just fine. Anyone who thinks they don't is deluded :)
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over >>>>>>>>>>>> the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a >>>>>>>>>>>> rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see >>>>>>>>>>> complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every >>>>>>>>>>> move seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around >>>>>>>>>>> with a smart phone in their pocket with Google listening in >>>>>>>>>>> 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every
move and listened in on our conversations they would have
thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking >>>>>>>>> that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis >>>>>>>>> and cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" >>>>>>>>> accounts where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we >>>>>>>>> don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it >>>>>>>>> all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll >>>>>>>>> worry when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue >>>>>>>> AI could doing some major damage to the world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a whole lot
of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems wished to
turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, not the
phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
using it as a weapon. No idea where a phone comes into this.
Even simple systems doing autonomous high frequency trading have
caused problems in stock markets on occasion.
-aAnd its trivial to turn those off
but he didn't think that it will happen simply because the
billionaires that run/control the AI could be at risk of
loosing all their money so they will pull the plug on it if
there is any sign of that happening.
-aHe's right about that
How naive!
-aBullshit
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their
massive incomes.
On 24/9/2026 8:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 12:29 pm, Axel wrote:Predictive text Darren. It "learns" from what you have written
Rod Speed wrote:
Google will often "auto complete" the very thing you were just
talking about after you enter one word into the search bar. If
that's not listening in, then I'm fucked if I know what is :)
It just knows common phrases
Nothing whatever to do with listening in to our conversations
exactly
Bullshit :)
I cannot tell you how many times I have been talking about a specific
topic, and then picked up my phone to type in a question about it and
it auto completes the question about that specific topic without me
ever typing in anything other than generic words like "how many" or
"how much" :)
previously. Such a pity you have trouble learning anything.
On 24/09/2026 1:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 12:32 pm, Axel wrote:
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use AndroidI have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find
What have you compared them to specifically?
, but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available at a betterYour prerogative. Your loss.
price point.
I wouldn't have an Iphone if you gave me one for free. In fact I don't
like Apple products at all.
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
Daryl wrote:
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless
lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be like
under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every single one of
them has come true....
On 24/09/2026 3:59 pm, Axel wrote:Geez Darren, you seriously need to control that anal fixation of yours.
Xeno wrote:
Nope, I'm not an Apple snob, just someone for whom Apple gear does
exactly what is required of it. Android was never able to do that for
me and was, in fact, highly frustrating.
I should have said many Apple owners, not most
ROTFL :)
You've offended your puppeteer Felix. Watch out pal, as the next fist up your arse is likely to not be lubricated :)
On 24/09/2026 5:58 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppetAt least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless
lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
I'm a fucking imbecile who is infatuated with my own reflection in the mirror
On 24/09/2026 1:25 pm, Keithr0 wrote:The owner of the AI company said that one of his products did it, it
On 24/09/2026 9:14 am, Noddy wrote:
Assuming that's what actually happened. Albanese claimed it did, but
Edge of the wedge?
Hardly :)
Optus suffered one of the largest security breeches in Australian
business history not long ago, and AI had nothing to do with it.
Doing it with an AI is or will be soon, faster, easier, and more
accessible than doing it by hand.
then I wouldn't believe a thing he ever said.
It's entirely possible that "AI" had nothing whatsoever to do with the recent Medicare data breach, and Albo's damage control team suggested
using AI as the culprit as it shifts the blame away from the government.
Had he stood up and stated that unknown criminals had hacked Medicare
then people would be blaming the government for having inadequate
security. But because AI is the favourite whipping boy at the moment claiming it was an AI gives everyone a demon to hate and changes the government's position from that of the inaequate gate keeper to one of
an innocent victim.
On 24/09/2026 1:56 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you
were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
-aAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
-aMine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 Pro.
--for a mediocre product like-a-a an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they
nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
On 24/09/2026 1:55 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response. >>>>>>
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information about
anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made have been
to boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows
that you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes
back at you
Nope. Wrong again Retcho. I was taking the piss.
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho...
Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim
you got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally
dishonest dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone
again how much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same,
Annndd there goes his left foot. I posted that pic because another
DATE member ('Derwyn", or something like that) said that I didn't
actually own one.
Yearh right.
oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes, look here's a picture of
them both together" isn't boasting?
See above. Hilariously, 'Derwyn" repeatedly expresses doubts about my
news and the only way to stop him is to errrr provide proof. (Big
sledge there DATErs)
Yearh right.
What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and
banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look and
see that I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
You lot are so block-headed that you refuse to learn. Ok Retcho, cite
where I said that.
You complained that after it was fixed after breaking down at the
Caboolture service area, you were pissed off that it no longer made
popping and banging noises on the overrun. (They are probably
artificial anyway)
What a little hypocrite you are boy.
Well according to you, but bizzarely, that doesn't worry me.
Woopydoo.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
lol!
"upset me"? Why would I get "upset" by a clown who has to invent
quotes to try and make a point?
Yearh right.
On 24/09/2026 1:45 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with >>>>>>>>> a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have thought you >>>>>>>>> were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
-amost apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android
I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find,
Me too with the iphones
but-a-a iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available
Complete and utter bullshit with what can get into the app store,
whether you can sideload stuff, and the risk of infection
I've had 3 Pixels, and a Nexus before that, never had a bad app. Bad
apps have got into the Apple walled garden too. Sideloading is up to
you, you get to make your own decision rather than having it made for
you. Apple is a pain in the arse to exchange any data with anything non Apple. I can send pictures from my Pixel, to my laptop via Bluetooth,
try doing that with an iPad.
Samsungs are even worse with their app stores
at a better-a-a price point.
Another stupid like with the google pixels you stupidly bought
after google stopped handing them out for close to free
iPhone 18 Pro - $2299
Pixel 11 Pro - $1849
$350 difference.
On 24/9/2026 8:17 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 12:32 pm, Axel wrote:
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use AndroidI have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find
What have you compared them to specifically?
Well, the iPad shits all over the competition - Android tablet. >
, but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available at aYour prerogative. Your loss.
better
price point.
I wouldn't have an Iphone if you gave me one for free. In fact I
don't like Apple products at all.
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:55 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response. >>>>>>>
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information about >>>>>> anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made have been >>>>>> to boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows
that you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes
back at you
Nope. Wrong again Retcho. I was taking the piss.
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho...
Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim
you got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally
dishonest dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone
again how much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same,
Annndd there goes his left foot. I posted that pic because another
DATE member ('Derwyn", or something like that) said that I didn't
actually own one.
Yearh right.
oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes, look here's a picture of
them both together" isn't boasting?
See above. Hilariously, 'Derwyn" repeatedly expresses doubts about my
news and the only way to stop him is to errrr provide proof. (Big
sledge there DATErs)
Yearh right.
What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and
banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look and
see that I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
You lot are so block-headed that you refuse to learn. Ok Retcho, cite
where I said that.
You complained that after it was fixed after breaking down at the
Caboolture service area, you were pissed off that it no longer made
popping and banging noises on the overrun. (They are probably
artificial anyway)
but he never said he wanted ppl looking to see he had a Merc
What a little hypocrite you are boy.
Well according to you, but bizzarely, that doesn't worry me.
Woopydoo.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
lol!
"upset me"? Why would I get "upset" by a clown who has to invent
quotes to try and make a point?
Yearh right.
On 24/09/2026 1:26 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 23/9/2026 11:42 pm, Noddy wrote:
It certainly has *many* practical uses that can be used for the
betterment of mankind. But like any tool, it can be used in the wrong
way, either by accident or deliberately, and have a negative effect.
Am I bothered by that?
Not much point worrying about something that us mere mortals can do
anything about.
If people are worried about the only thing they can do of any
significance is talk to their MP about it and I can't imagine that too
many people will do that.
I think the reaction to AI is disproportionate knee jerk. It has the potential to do a great deal of good, but people are happy to dismiss
that on the basis of the unfounded scaremongering that the media are whipping up.
It's silly really, but then this is the world we live in today.
As I said I'll worry when there is something to actually worry about,
but for now I can't see *any* evidence that Skynet is going to become
self aware and start sending armies of Terminators out there to take
care of us :)
Terminators are fine as long as I am the one controlling them:-)
Lol :)
I was talking to a friend of mine about this very thing this morning
over a cup of coffee, and she's of the opinion that AI is dangerous. She went on a bit about how the technology would be used to "control us" all while she kept looking at her Apple watch every 30 seconds to check for messages, use her Iphone to see where her kids were at, and no doubt
talked to Alexa on her Google home assistant box about whatever the fuck
she had planed for the day when she got home :)
On 24/09/2026 1:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 12:32 pm, Axel wrote:
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use AndroidI have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find
What have you compared them to specifically?
, but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available at a betterI might take one for free, But I'm not going to pay the Apple tax for
price point.
I wouldn't have an Iphone if you gave me one for free. In fact I don't
like Apple products at all.
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:56 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you
were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
-aAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
-aMine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 Pro.
there's even more between it and other androids
for a mediocre product like-a-a an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they
nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
On 24/09/2026 1:56 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>>> bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
-aAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
-aMine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 Pro.
for a mediocre product like-a-a an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they
nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
Daryl wrote:
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless
lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be like
under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every single one of
them has come true....
really? post them here
On 24/09/2026 1:59 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>> bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
Never happens with an iphone unless you use google as a search engine
Spoke as a true believer.
On 24/09/2026 1:55 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response. >>>>>>
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information about
anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made have been
to boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows
that you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes
back at you
Nope. Wrong again Retcho. I was taking the piss.
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho...
Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim you
got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally dishonest
dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone again how
much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same,
Annndd there goes his left foot. I posted that pic because another
DATE member ('Derwyn", or something like that) said that I didn't
actually own one.
Yearh right.
oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes, look here's a picture of
them both together" isn't boasting?
See above. Hilariously, 'Derwyn" repeatedly expresses doubts about my
news and the only way to stop him is to errrr provide proof. (Big
sledge there DATErs)
Yearh right.
What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and
banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look and
see that I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
You lot are so block-headed that you refuse to learn. Ok Retcho, cite
where I said that.
You complained that after it was fixed after breaking down at the
Caboolture service area, you were pissed off that it no longer made
popping and banging noises on the overrun. (They are probably artificial anyway)
--What a little hypocrite you are boy.
Well according to you, but bizzarely, that doesn't worry me.
Woopydoo.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
lol!
"upset me"? Why would I get "upset" by a clown who has to invent
quotes to try and make a point?
Yearh right.
when you type a question into the URL or search bar, they offer
suggestions based on common similar queries. nothing to do with your
phone listening
On 24/9/2026 8:38 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
I've had 3 Pixels, and a Nexus before that, never had a bad app. Bad
apps have got into the Apple walled garden too. Sideloading is up to
you, you get to make your own decision rather than having it made for
you. Apple is a pain in the arse to exchange any data with anything
non Apple. I can send pictures from my Pixel, to my laptop via
Bluetooth, try doing that with an iPad.
If I take a photo with my Pixel 7 it will be available within a few
minutes on my Mac computer, the difference is I use Google Chrome on the
Mac so it still syncs with the phone despite being a Mac.
I also use Chrome on my ipad but I've never checked if I can access my photos.>
the problem with Apple is that it's a closed system. Apple wants it's customers to use only Apple products, with is why they make interfacing
with other makes difficult, use non-standard connectors, et.c.,
Noddy wrote:I'd agree, some are, I'm not one of them. My phone for instance is a
On 24/09/2026 3:59 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
Nope, I'm not an Apple snob, just someone for whom Apple gear does
exactly what is required of it. Android was never able to do that
for me and was, in fact, highly frustrating.
I should have said many Apple owners, not most
ROTFL :)
You've offended your puppeteer Felix. Watch out pal, as the next fist
up your arse is likely to not be lubricated :)
I never said Xeno was an apple snob. he just took my general comment personally. but I was wrong saying most Apple owners are snobs. some
are, but what percentage, who knows
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over >>>>>>>>>>>>> the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a >>>>>>>>>>>>> rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see >>>>>>>>>>>> complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every >>>>>>>>>>>> move seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around >>>>>>>>>>>> with a smart phone in their pocket with Google listening in >>>>>>>>>>>> 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking >>>>>>>>>> that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis >>>>>>>>>> and cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" >>>>>>>>>> accounts where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we >>>>>>>>>> don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it >>>>>>>>>> all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll >>>>>>>>>> worry when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue >>>>>>>>> AI could doing some major damage to the world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a whole lot >>>>>> of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems wished to
turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, not the
phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
using it as a weapon. No idea where a phone comes into this.
Even simple systems doing autonomous high frequency trading have
caused problems in stock markets on occasion.
-aAnd its trivial to turn those off
but he didn't think that it will happen simply because the
billionaires that run/control the AI could be at risk of
loosing all their money so they will pull the plug on it if >>>>>>>>> there is any sign of that happening.
-aHe's right about that
How naive!
-aBullshit
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their >>>>>>>>> massive incomes.
On 24/09/2026 8:17 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 12:32 pm, Axel wrote:
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use AndroidI have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find
What have you compared them to specifically?
Android pads and other music players. The iPad is powerful enough to do photo manipulation, the iPod is the smallest music player that I have
come across, I have another one ,a Fiio JM21 which gives a better sound
but is significantly larger.>
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 3:59 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
Nope, I'm not an Apple snob, just someone for whom Apple gear does
exactly what is required of it. Android was never able to do that
for me and was, in fact, highly frustrating.
I should have said many Apple owners, not most
ROTFL :)
You've offended your puppeteer Felix. Watch out pal, as the next fist
up your arse is likely to not be lubricated :)
I never said Xeno was an apple snob. he just took my general comment personally. but I was wrong saying most Apple owners are snobs. some
are, but what percentage, who knows
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 8:17 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 12:32 pm, Axel wrote:
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android >>>>>I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find
What have you compared them to specifically?
Well, the iPad shits all over the competition - Android tablet. >
, but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available at aYour prerogative. Your loss.
better
price point.
I wouldn't have an Iphone if you gave me one for free. In fact I
don't like Apple products at all.
the problem with Apple is that it's a closed system. Apple wants it's customers to use only Apple products, with is why they make interfacing
with other makes difficult, use non-standard connectors, et.c.,
Noddy wrote:
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
Yep. They listen in just fine. Anyone who thinks they don't is deluded :)
my wife asked me why I spoke so softly in the house. I said I was afraid google was listening. She laughed. Alexa laughed. Siri laughed.
On 24/09/2026 9:37 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:55 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response. >>>>>>>>
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information
about anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made
have been to boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows
that you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes
back at you
Nope. Wrong again Retcho. I was taking the piss.
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho... >>>>>> Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim
you got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally
dishonest dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone >>>>>> again how much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same,
Annndd there goes his left foot. I posted that pic because another
DATE member ('Derwyn", or something like that) said that I didn't
actually own one.
Yearh right.
oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes, look here's a picture of
them both together" isn't boasting?
See above. Hilariously, 'Derwyn" repeatedly expresses doubts about
my news and the only way to stop him is to errrr provide proof. (Big
sledge there DATErs)
Yearh right.
What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and
banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look
and see that I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
You lot are so block-headed that you refuse to learn. Ok Retcho,
cite where I said that.
You complained that after it was fixed after breaking down at the
Caboolture service area, you were pissed off that it no longer made
popping and banging noises on the overrun. (They are probably
artificial anyway)
but he never said he wanted ppl looking to see he had a Merc
Other than drawing attention to yourself, what would be the point. It's common thing among drivers of hoon cars, surely you must have come
across it at some point.
What a little hypocrite you are boy.
Well according to you, but bizzarely, that doesn't worry me.
Woopydoo.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
lol!
"upset me"? Why would I get "upset" by a clown who has to invent
quotes to try and make a point?
Yearh right.
On 24/09/2026 8:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
It's entirely possible that "AI" had nothing whatsoever to do with the
recent Medicare data breach, and Albo's damage control team suggested
using AI as the culprit as it shifts the blame away from the
government. Had he stood up and stated that unknown criminals had
hacked Medicare then people would be blaming the government for having
inadequate security. But because AI is the favourite whipping boy at
the moment claiming it was an AI gives everyone a demon to hate and
changes the government's position from that of the inaequate gate
keeper to one of an innocent victim.
The owner of the AI company said that one of his products did it, it
just took him 4 months to say so. The biggest worry is that nobody told
it to do it, it just decided on it's own to do it as part of a task that
it had been given.
The second time Biden actually won
I was talking about the last US election.
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 5:58 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppetAt least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless
lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
I'm a fucking imbecile who is infatuated with my own reflection in the
mirror
fixed it for you :)
Noddy wrote:
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be like
under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every single one of
them has come true....
really? post them here
https://www.c-span.org/clip/campaign-2024/harris-warns-second-trump-term-would-be-dangerous-for-america/5136694--
On 24/09/2026 8:17 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 12:32 pm, Axel wrote:
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use AndroidI have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find
What have you compared them to specifically?
Android pads and other music players. The iPad is powerful enough to do photo manipulation, the iPod is the smallest music player that I have
come across, I have another one ,a Fiio JM21 which gives a better sound
but is significantly larger.>
, but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available at a better >>> price point.I might take one for free, But I'm not going to pay the Apple tax for
I wouldn't have an Iphone if you gave me one for free. In fact I don't
like Apple products at all.
one unless they finally manage to use the Apple watch to measure blood
sugar levels, something they have been trying to do for years.
On 24/9/2026 8:44 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:59 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>>> bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
Never happens with an iphone unless you use google as a search engine
Spoke as a true believer.
Google could be the problem but almost everyone I know who owns an
iPhone uses Google.
Does anyone actually use Safari?
Its installed on my Mac, I tried it once and it was hopeless so I
installed Chrome.
On 24/09/2026 9:30 pm, Axel wrote:
when you type a question into the URL or search bar, they offer
suggestions based on common similar queries. nothing to do with your
phone listening
So it's just a coinkidink that I can be talking to someone about
something very specific, and if I start typing "how much...." into
google it will auto fill the exact question I was going to ask?
Right :)
Maybe you could take a moment to explain how Google knows that that's
what I was going to ask.....
On 24/09/2026 9:34 pm, Axel wrote:You're just jealous because you haven't graduated from the 8 year old
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 5:58 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppetAt least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
I'm a fucking imbecile who is infatuated with my own reflection in
the mirror
fixed it for you :)
Oh, look. Felix using his now famous 12 year old part of his brain.....
On 24/9/2026 8:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they
nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
I've had 3 Pixels and not a problem with any of them, my wifes iPhone
needs charging every night whereas I only charge my Pixel 7 every second night and it hasn't changed its battery life in the almost 4 yrs I've
owned it so stuffed if I know what he's talking about.
On 24/09/2026 9:32 pm, Axel wrote:
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest narcissist.
On 24/09/2026 1:25 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:14 am, Noddy wrote:
Assuming that's what actually happened. Albanese claimed it did, but
Edge of the wedge?
Hardly :)
Optus suffered one of the largest security breeches in Australian
business history not long ago, and AI had nothing to do with it.
Doing it with an AI is or will be soon, faster, easier, and more
accessible than doing it by hand.
then I wouldn't believe a thing he ever said.
It's entirely possible that "AI" had nothing whatsoever to do with the recent Medicare data breach,
On 24/09/2026 9:32 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
Daryl wrote:
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest narcissist.
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be like
under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every single one
of them has come true....
really? post them here
On 24/09/2026 9:11 pm, Axel wrote:
The second time Biden actually won
I was talking about the last US election.
You still fucked it up. At the last US election the choice was between
the pants shitting Pedo and Kamala Harris.
On 24/09/2026 9:22 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
Yep. They listen in just fine. Anyone who thinks they don't is
deluded :)
my wife asked me why I spoke so softly in the house. I said I was
afraid google was listening. She laughed. Alexa laughed. Siri laughed.
You suck at comedy as much as you do at everything else.
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry >>>>>>> when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate the >>>>>> "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of software
deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated that a >>>>>> Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle East, the
Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human interceded. Such
incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet controlled >>> by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless lefty as
vice president. they chose the best option.
At least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't start
stupid wars that he couldn't end.
So somehow "a senile puppet controlled by the left" is worse than a mentally deranged psychopath controlled by the far right?
Neither are great options.
Makes me wonder what sort of place the US is when those 2 were the best candidates they could find out of a population of 360 million.
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over the >>>>>>>>>>>> landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a >>>>>>>>>>>> rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see >>>>>>>>>>> complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every >>>>>>>>>>> move seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around >>>>>>>>>>> with a smart phone in their pocket with Google listening in >>>>>>>>>>> 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Me neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have thought you >>>>>>>>> were bat shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking that shit and >>>>>>>>> no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis >>>>>>>>> and cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" >>>>>>>>> accounts where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we >>>>>>>>> don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it >>>>>>>>> all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll >>>>>>>>> worry when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue AI >>>>>>>> could doing some major damage to the world
How is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a whole lot of >>>>> havoc.
Nope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems wished to turn >>> them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, not the
phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge, using it as a weapon.
No idea where a phone comes into this.
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2Even simple systems doing autonomous high frequency trading have
caused problems in stock markets on occasion.
And its trivial to turn those off
but he didn't think that it will happen simply because the
billionaires that run/control the AI could be at risk of loosing >>>>>>>> all their money so they will pull the plug on it if there is any >>>>>>>> sign of that happening.
He's right about that
How naive!
Bullshit
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their >>>>>>>> massive incomes.
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>>>> bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
Apple phones are no different to Android devices when itcomes to
tracking or listening to what people are saying,
Complete and utter drivel as you have just proved with
what you said about getting ads on utube or facebook
when you have discussed something with someone
in person. That doesn't happen with an iphone
I did get that when using the google search engine,
but that is because of the search text I used, not
because it listens to what I say to anyone and I
don't get that anymore now that I use grok instead
of the google search engine because its givens what
I want and I don't have to wade thru useless hits
all the people I know who have Apple phones have the same issue with
ads about a subject they recently talked about suddenly appearing.
BULLSHIT
They are getting that result from google searches
after they have done that after discussing something
with someone else either in person or by phone
On both sorts of devices it is possible to block those features if you
know how or care enough to bother.
Don't need to with an iphone
Don't get ad's on my Moto Android also
All my APP's I pay for though, all under AU$3
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Edge of the wedge?
Hardly :)
Optus suffered one of the largest security breeches in Australian
business history not long ago, and AI had nothing to do with it.
Doing it with an AI is or will be soon, faster, easier, and more
accessible than doing it by hand.
Assuming that's what actually happened. Albanese claimed it did, but
then I wouldn't believe a thing he ever said.
It's entirely possible that "AI" had nothing whatsoever to do with the recent Medicare data breach, and Albo's damage control team suggested
using AI as the culprit as it shifts the blame away from the government.
Had he stood up and stated that unknown criminals had hacked Medicare
then people would be blaming the government for having inadequate
security. But because AI is the favourite whipping boy at the moment claiming it was an AI gives everyone a demon to hate and changes the government's position from that of the inaequate gate keeper to one of
an innocent victim.
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have thought you >>>>>>>>> were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous
basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android
I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find,
Me too with the iphones
but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available
Complete and utter bullshit with what can get into the app store,
whether you can sideload stuff, and the risk of infection
I've had 3 Pixels, and a Nexus before that, never had a bad app.
Bad apps have got into the Apple walled garden too.
Sideloading is up to you, you get to make yourown decision rather than having it made for you.
Apple is a pain in the arse to exchangeany data with anything non
Apple.
I can send pictures from my Pixel, to my laptopvia Bluetooth, try
doing that with an iPad.
Samsungs are even worse with their app stores
at a better price point.
Another stupid like with the google pixels you stupidly bought
after google stopped handing them out for close to free
iPhone 18 Pro - $2299
Pixel 11 Pro - $1849
$350 difference.
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2And with the samsungs other than their low end shit which you don't buy
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>>> bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 Pro.
for a mediocre product like an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that,
when they nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>> bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
Never happens with an iphone unless you use google as a search engine
Spoke as a true believer.
Rod Speed wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll worry >>>>>>> when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate the >>>>>> "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of software
deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated that a >>>>>> Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle East, the
Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human interceded. Such
incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet controlled >>> by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless lefty as
vice president. they chose the best option.
You've mangled that completely
The first time the alternative to trump was clinton and she wasn't
senile
The second time Biden actually won
I was talking about the last US election.
The third time Harris wasn't senile
I never said she was
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>>>> bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 Pro.
there's even more between it and other androids
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2for a mediocre product like an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they
nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
Xeno wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android
I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find
What have you compared them to specifically?
Well, the iPad shits all over the competition - Android tablet.
, but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available at a
better price point.
I wouldn't have an Iphone if you gave me one for free. In fact I don't >>> like Apple products at all.
Your prerogative. Your loss.
the problem with Apple is that it's a closed system.
Apple wants it's customers to use only Apple products,
with is why they make interfacing with other makes difficult,
use non-standard connectors, et.c.,
Noddy wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
It certainly has *many* practical uses that can be used for the
betterment of mankind. But like any tool, it can be used in the wrong >>>> way, either by accident or deliberately, and have a negative effect.
Am I bothered by that?
Not much point worrying about something that us mere mortals can do
anything about.
If people are worried about the only thing they can do of any
significance is talk to their MP about it and I can't imagine that too >>> many people will do that.
I think the reaction to AI is disproportionate knee jerk. It has the
potential to do a great deal of good, but people are happy to dismiss
that on the basis of the unfounded scaremongering that the media are
whipping up.
There is genuine concern about AI and I don't think its a bad idea that
its being discussed, I only hope that all the hype about it will get
Govts off their arses to make sure that its regulated so it can't do all the things people are worrying about.
It's silly really, but then this is the world we live in today.
Its hard to know if we are better off now with all the information that
is available to all of us compared to only 70 or so years ago when all
we had was AM radio and newspapers.
Life was a lot simpler back then.
As I said I'll worry when there is something to actually worry about, >>>> but for now I can't see *any* evidence that Skynet is going to become >>>> self aware and start sending armies of Terminators out there to take >>>> care of us :)
Terminators are fine as long as I am the one controlling them:-)
Lol :)
I was talking to a friend of mine about this very thing this morning
over a cup of coffee, and she's of the opinion that AI is dangerous.
She went on a bit about how the technology would be used to "control
us" all while she kept looking at her Apple watch every 30 seconds to
check for messages, use her Iphone to see where her kids were at, and
no doubt talked to Alexa on her Google home assistant box about
whatever the fuck she had planed for the day when she got home :)
LOL.
Do we control the tech or does it control us:-)
On 24/9/2026 8:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:56 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wroteThere is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 Pro.
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>>>> bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when theyfor a mediocre product like an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
I've had 3 Pixels and not a problem with any of them, my wifes iPhone
needs charging every night whereas I only charge my Pixel 7 every second night
and it hasn't changed its battery life in the almost 4 yrs I've owned it
so stuffed if I know what he's talking about.
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see >>>>>>>>>>>>> complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their every >>>>>>>>>>>>> move seem to be the same people who are happy to walk around >>>>>>>>>>>>> with a smart phone in their pocket with Google listening in >>>>>>>>>>>>> 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
Me neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking >>>>>>>>>>> that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless taxis >>>>>>>>>>> and cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" >>>>>>>>>>> accounts where everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because we >>>>>>>>>>> don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to put it >>>>>>>>>>> all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll >>>>>>>>>>> worry when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a rogue >>>>>>>>>> AI could doing some major damage to the world
How is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a whole lot >>>>>>> of havoc.
Nope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems wished to
turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, not the >>>> phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
It's entirely possible that "AI" had nothing whatsoever to do with the >>> recent Medicare data breach, and Albo's damage control team suggested
using AI as the culprit as it shifts the blame away from the
government. Had he stood up and stated that unknown criminals had
hacked Medicare then people would be blaming the government for having >>> inadequate security. But because AI is the favourite whipping boy at
the moment claiming it was an AI gives everyone a demon to hate and
changes the government's position from that of the inaequate gate
keeper to one of an innocent victim.
The owner of the AI company said that one of his products did it, it
just took him 4 months to say so. The biggest worry is that nobody told
it to do it, it just decided on it's own to do it as part of a task
that it had been given.
Lol :)
So a random AI door knock
uncovered a piss poor security system?
How is this an AI problem? :)--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
On 24/09/2026 9:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 8:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
It's entirely possible that "AI" had nothing whatsoever to do with
the recent Medicare data breach, and Albo's damage control team
suggested using AI as the culprit as it shifts the blame away from
the government. Had he stood up and stated that unknown criminals had
hacked Medicare then people would be blaming the government for
having inadequate security. But because AI is the favourite whipping
boy at the moment claiming it was an AI gives everyone a demon to
hate and changes the government's position from that of the inaequate
gate keeper to one of an innocent victim.
The owner of the AI company said that one of his products did it, it
just took him 4 months to say so. The biggest worry is that nobody
told it to do it, it just decided on it's own to do it as part of a
task that it had been given.
Lol :)
So a random AI door knock uncovered a piss poor security system? How is
this an AI problem? :)
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:22 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
Yep. They listen in just fine. Anyone who thinks they don't is
deluded :)
my wife asked me why I spoke so softly in the house. I said I was
afraid google was listening. She laughed. Alexa laughed. Siri laughed.
You suck at comedy as much as you do at everything else.
it's a well known joke, dickhead. and you just suck big time, period
On 24/09/2026 8:33 pm, Noddy wrote:
Fuck me, you have absolutely NFI.
You are so incredibly stupid lol
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:11 pm, Axel wrote:
The second time Biden actually won
I was talking about the last US election.
You still fucked it up. At the last US election the choice was between
the pants shitting Pedo and Kamala Harris.
Oh that's right, she replaced Biden. I forgot about that.
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:32 pm, Axel wrote:
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had been
in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and terrorist cells everywhere
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>> basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
-amost apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android
I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find,
-aMe too with the iphones
but-a-a iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available
-aComplete and utter bullshit with what can get into the app store,
whether you can sideload stuff, and the risk of infection
I've had 3 Pixels, and a Nexus before that, never had a bad app.
Irrelevant to the fact that its much easier for a bad app
to get into the playstore with androids and samsungs
Bad-a-a apps have got into the Apple walled garden too.
Fuck all in fact
Sideloading is up to-a-a you, you get to make yourown decision rather
than having it made for-a-a you.
But you can't do that stupidity on an iphone
Apple is a pain in the arse to exchangeany data with anything non
Apple.
Complete and utter drivel
I do it all the time
I can send pictures from my Pixel, to my laptopvia Bluetooth,-a-a try
doing that with an iPad.
I do it all the time with my iphone, using wifi
Samsungs are even worse with their app stores
at a better-a-a price point.
-aAnother stupid like with the google pixels you stupidly bought
after google stopped handing them out for close to free
iPhone 18 Pro - $2299
Pixel 11 Pro - $1849
$350 difference.
Pity about the other pairs
And with the samsungs other than their low end shit which you don't buy
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 8:17 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 12:32 pm, Axel wrote:
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android >>>>>I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find
What have you compared them to specifically?
Well, the iPad shits all over the competition - Android tablet. >
, but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available at aYour prerogative. Your loss.
better
price point.
I wouldn't have an Iphone if you gave me one for free. In fact I
don't like Apple products at all.
the problem with Apple is that it's a closed system. Apple wants it's customers to use only Apple products, with is why they make interfacing
with other makes difficult, use non-standard connectors, et.c.,
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Xeno wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android
I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find
What have you compared them to specifically?
Well, the iPad shits all over the competition - Android tablet.
, but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available at a
better-a-a price point.
I wouldn't have an Iphone if you gave me one for free. In fact I
don't like Apple products at all.
Your prerogative. Your loss.
the problem with Apple is that it's a closed system.
Bullshit it is
Apple wants it's-a-a customers to use only Apple products,
More bullshit
with is why they make interfacing with other makes difficult,
More bullshit
use non-standard connectors, et.c.,
No connector involved
On 24/9/2026 9:53 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 8:17 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 12:32 pm, Axel wrote:
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android >>>>>I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find
What have you compared them to specifically?
Android pads and other music players. The iPad is powerful enough to
do photo manipulation, the iPod is the smallest music player that I
have come across, I have another one ,a Fiio JM21 which gives a better
sound but is significantly larger.>
, but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available at aI might take one for free, But I'm not going to pay the Apple tax for
better
price point.
I wouldn't have an Iphone if you gave me one for free. In fact I
don't like Apple products at all.
one unless they finally manage to use the Apple watch to measure blood
sugar levels, something they have been trying to do for years.
And not succeeded yet. Don't hold your breath, none of the smart watches
are there yet, can't blame Apple for that. The Apple watch does
interface with units like the Accu-Chek SmartGuide sensor CGM. Can get
an app for the phone too.
On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 21:57:57 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:
On 24/9/2026 8:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:56 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote-aThere is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 Pro. >>>
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with >>>>>>>>> a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have thought you >>>>>>>>> were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's-aAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis. >>>>
-aMine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
-aOdd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when theyfor a mediocre product like-a-a an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
I've had 3 Pixels and not a problem with any of them, my wifes iPhone
needs charging every night whereas I only charge my Pixel 7 every
second night
What matters is how much each of you use your phone
and it hasn't changed its battery life in the almost 4 yrs I've owned
it so stuffed if I know what he's talking about.
With time between charges, the data Choice provided
on that when they listed the pixels as phones to avoid
In the case of the shutting down due to being too hot,
a mate of mine has gone thru the 9 and 10 which had
that problem and now has an 11 which doesn't
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>>> basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use
Android
I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could
find,
Me too with the iphones
but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available
Complete and utter bullshit with what can get into the app store,
whether you can sideload stuff, and the risk of infection
I've had 3 Pixels, and a Nexus before that, never had a bad app.
Irrelevant to the fact that its much easier for a bad app
to get into the playstore with androids and samsungs
Bad apps have got into the Apple walled garden too.
Fuck all in fact
Sideloading is up to you, you get to make your
own decision rather than having it made for you.
But you can't do that stupidity on an iphone
So jailbreaking isn't actually a thing then,
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2Apple is a pain in the arse to exchange
any data with anything non Apple.
Complete and utter drivel
I do it all the time
I can send pictures from my Pixel, to my laptopvia Bluetooth, try
doing that with an iPad.
I do it all the time with my iphone, using wifi
Samsungs are even worse with their app stores
at a better price point.
Another stupid like with the google pixels you stupidly bought
after google stopped handing them out for close to free
iPhone 18 Pro - $2299
Pixel 11 Pro - $1849
$350 difference.
Pity about the other pairs
And with the samsungs other than their low end shit which you don't
buy
Rod Speed wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Xeno wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those >>>>>> because they do their job better than anything else that I could >>>>>> find
What have you compared them to specifically?
Well, the iPad shits all over the competition - Android tablet.
but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available at a
better price point.
I wouldn't have an Iphone if you gave me one for free. In fact I
don't like Apple products at all.
Your prerogative. Your loss.
the problem with Apple is that it's a closed system.
Bullshit it is
Apple wants it's customers to use only Apple products,
More bullshit
with is why they make interfacing with other makes difficult,
More bullshit
use non-standard connectors, et.c.,
No connector involved
Spoken like a true blue fanboi.
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with >>>>>>>>>> a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have thought you >>>>>>>>>> were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>> basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11
Pro.
for a mediocre product like an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even >>>>> get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they
nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
I've had 3 Pixels and not a problem with any of them, my wifes iPhone
needs charging every night whereas I only charge my Pixel 7 every
second night
What matters is how much each of you use your phone
and it hasn't changed its battery life in the almost 4 yrs I've owned
it so stuffed if I know what he's talking about.
With time between charges, the data Choice provided
on that when they listed the pixels as phones to avoid
In the case of the shutting down due to being too hot,
a mate of mine has gone thru the 9 and 10 which had
that problem and now has an 11 which doesn't
None of the Google phones that I have had have had that problem.
On 24/09/2026 1:55 pm, alvey wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response. >>>>>>
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information about
anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made have been
to boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows
that you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes
back at you
Nope. Wrong again Retcho. I was taking the piss.
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho...
Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim you
got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally dishonest
dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone again how
much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same,
Annndd there goes his left foot. I posted that pic because another
DATE member ('Derwyn", or something like that) said that I didn't
actually own one.
Yearh right.
oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes, look here's a picture of
them both together" isn't boasting?
See above. Hilariously, 'Derwyn" repeatedly expresses doubts about my
news and the only way to stop him is to errrr provide proof. (Big
sledge there DATErs)
Yearh right.
What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and
banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look and
see that I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
You lot are so block-headed that you refuse to learn. Ok Retcho, cite
where I said that.
You complained that after it was fixed after breaking down at the
Caboolture service area, you were pissed off that it no longer made
popping and banging noises on the overrun. (They are probably artificial anyway)
What a little hypocrite you are boy.
Well according to you, but bizzarely, that doesn't worry me.
Woopydoo.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
lol!
"upset me"? Why would I get "upset" by a clown who has to invent
quotes to try and make a point?
Yearh right.
On 25/09/2026 12:13 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:11 pm, Axel wrote:
The second time Biden actually won
I was talking about the last US election.
You still fucked it up. At the last US election the choice was
between the pants shitting Pedo and Kamala Harris.
Oh that's right, she replaced Biden. I forgot about that.
Jesus *CHRIST* you are fucking retarded.....
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll
worry when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate >>>>>>> the "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of software >>>>>>> deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated that >>>>>>> a Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle East,
the Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human interceded.
Such incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've mangled that completely
The first time the alternative to trump was clinton and she wasn't
senile
The second time Biden actually won
I was talking about the last US election.
Harris isnt senile
The third time Harris wasn't senile
I never said she was
You have now claimed that in the last US presidential
election 'the only choice Americans had was Trump,
or a senile puppet controlled by the left'
That was Harris and you clearly claimed she is senile
between Trump and--
On 24/09/2026 8:33 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:34 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 8:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
It's entirely possible that "AI" had nothing whatsoever to do with
the recent Medicare data breach, and Albo's damage control team
suggested using AI as the culprit as it shifts the blame away from
the government. Had he stood up and stated that unknown criminals
had hacked Medicare then people would be blaming the government for
having inadequate security. But because AI is the favourite
whipping boy at the moment claiming it was an AI gives everyone a
demon to hate and changes the government's position from that of
the inaequate gate keeper to one of an innocent victim.
The owner of the AI company said that one of his products did it, it
just took him 4 months to say so. The biggest worry is that nobody
told it to do it, it just decided on it's own to do it as part of a
task that it had been given.
Lol :)
So a random AI door knock uncovered a piss poor security system? How
is this an AI problem? :)
Fuck me, you have absolutely NFI.
You are so incredibly stupid lol
On 25/09/2026 12:12 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:22 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with
someone about something then next time you look at your phone
YouTube or Facebook and an ad relating to what you were
discussing appears.
Yep. They listen in just fine. Anyone who thinks they don't is
deluded :)
my wife asked me why I spoke so softly in the house. I said I was
afraid google was listening. She laughed. Alexa laughed. Siri laughed.
You suck at comedy as much as you do at everything else.
it's a well known joke, dickhead. and you just suck big time, period
You're about as funny as a punctured lung. Except when you post links
to AI videos without knowing they're AI. That's when you're funny :)
On 24/09/2026 5:58 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppetAt least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless
lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
Trump is a fucking imbecile who is infatuated with his own reflection
in the mirror. The only person around here who thinks he's a smart man
with decent policies is Felix, and it should come as no surprise to
anyone that he also thinks that *he* is intelligent too :)
More bullshit
Rod Speed wrote
More bullshit
APU
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
More bullshit
APU
Yep, that was more of your usual bullshit
On 24/09/2026 9:35 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:56 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every
move and listened in on our conversations they would have
thought you were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous
basis.
-aAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
-aMine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 Pro.
there's even more between it and other androids
They are both premium models aimed at the same market.
for a mediocre product like-a-a an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they
nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
On 24/9/2026 8:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:56 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with >>>>>>>> a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have thought you
were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
-aAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
-aMine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 Pro.
for a mediocre product like-a-a an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they
nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
I've had 3 Pixels and not a problem with any of them, my wifes iPhone
needs charging every night whereas I only charge my Pixel 7 every
second night and it hasn't changed its battery life in the almost 4
yrs I've owned it so stuffed if I know what he's talking about.
On 24/09/2026 9:30 pm, Axel wrote:
when you type a question into the URL or search bar, they offer
suggestions based on common similar queries. nothing to do with your
phone listening
So it's just a coinkidink that I can be talking to someone about
something very specific, and if I start typing "how much...." into
google it will auto fill the exact question I was going to ask?
Right :)
Maybe you could take a moment to explain how Google knows that that's
what I was going to ask.....
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see >>>>>>>>>>>>> complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their >>>>>>>>>>>>> every move seem to be the same people who are happy to >>>>>>>>>>>>> walk around with a smart phone in their pocket with Google >>>>>>>>>>>>> listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking >>>>>>>>>>> that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless >>>>>>>>>>> taxis and cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, >>>>>>>>>>> "Mygov" accounts where everything you do is recorded, yada >>>>>>>>>>> yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because >>>>>>>>>>> we don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to >>>>>>>>>>> put it all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll >>>>>>>>>>> worry when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a
rogue AI could doing some major damage to the world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a whole
lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems wished to
turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, not
the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
using it as a weapon. No idea where a phone comes into this.
Even simple systems doing autonomous high frequency trading have >>>>>>> caused problems in stock markets on occasion.
-aAnd its trivial to turn those off
but he didn't think that it will happen simply because the >>>>>>>>>> billionaires that run/control the AI could be at risk of
loosing all their money so they will pull the plug on it if >>>>>>>>>> there is any sign of that happening.
-aHe's right about that
How naive!
-aBullshit
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their >>>>>>>>>> massive incomes.
On 24/09/2026 9:53 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 8:17 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:10 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 12:32 pm, Axel wrote:
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use Android >>>>>I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could find
What have you compared them to specifically?
Android pads and other music players. The iPad is powerful enough to
do photo manipulation, the iPod is the smallest music player that I
have come across, I have another one ,a Fiio JM21 which gives a
better sound but is significantly larger.>
I had an Ipod once years ago. The wife bought it for me for a birthday present. I have a reasonably decent music collection with about 30
thousand mp3's,
and I had them all stored on my PC exactly the way I wanted them. To
get the Ipod to talk to the PC so I could move music across to it I
had to install Apples thoroughly hopeless software, and it totally
fucked everything up. It moved *everything* into new folders where it
stored songs according to the album they were originally released on,
and it took forever to sort out. After that I swore I'd never have
another piece of Apple shit for as long as I live, and I never have to
this day.
I bought my kid a Sony Walkman for Christmas a couple of years ago and
it's brilliant. Awesome sound, piss easy interface, excellent
connectivity, and no Apple.
Win win.
On 24/9/2026 3:48 pm, jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 1:18 PM, Daryl wrote:I used to use Adblock but then YouTube almost won't work with it in use
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by
2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a
mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>> bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
-a-aAdblock +. No problems. ;)
so I deleted it, tried another ad blocker and the arseholes took my
money but the program won't work so I'm over ad blockers.
On 24/09/2026 1:55 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response. >>>>>>
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information about
anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made have been
to boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows
that you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes
back at you
Nope. Wrong again Retcho. I was taking the piss.
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho...
Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim you
got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally dishonest
dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone again how
much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same,
Annndd there goes his left foot. I posted that pic because another
DATE member ('Derwyn", or something like that) said that I didn't
actually own one.
Yearh right.
oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes, look here's a picture of
them both together" isn't boasting?
See above. Hilariously, 'Derwyn" repeatedly expresses doubts about my
news and the only way to stop him is to errrr provide proof. (Big
sledge there DATErs)
Yearh right.
What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and
banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look and
see that I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
You lot are so block-headed that you refuse to learn. Ok Retcho, cite
where I said that.
You complained that after it was fixed after breaking down at the
Caboolture service area, you were pissed off that it no longer made
popping and banging noises on the overrun. (They are probably artificial anyway)
What a little hypocrite you are boy.
Well according to you, but bizzarely, that doesn't worry me.
Woopydoo.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
lol!
"upset me"? Why would I get "upset" by a clown who has to invent
quotes to try and make a point?
Yearh right.
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:55 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response. >>>>>>>
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information about >>>>>> anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made have been >>>>>> to boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows
that you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes
back at you
Nope. Wrong again Retcho. I was taking the piss.
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho...
Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim
you got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally
dishonest dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone
again how much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same,
Annndd there goes his left foot. I posted that pic because another
DATE member ('Derwyn", or something like that) said that I didn't
actually own one.
Yearh right.
oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes, look here's a picture of
them both together" isn't boasting?
See above. Hilariously, 'Derwyn" repeatedly expresses doubts about my
news and the only way to stop him is to errrr provide proof. (Big
sledge there DATErs)
Yearh right.
What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and
banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look and
see that I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
You lot are so block-headed that you refuse to learn. Ok Retcho, cite
where I said that.
You complained that after it was fixed after breaking down at the
Caboolture service area, you were pissed off that it no longer made
popping and banging noises on the overrun. (They are probably
artificial anyway)
but he never said he wanted ppl looking to see he had a Merc
she's a rabid lefty.
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:32 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
Daryl wrote:
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being >>>>>>> absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had been
in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and terrorist cells everywhere
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be like
under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every single one
of them has come true....
really? post them here
On 24-Sep-26 8:10 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 24/9/2026 3:48 pm, jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 1:18 PM, Daryl wrote:I used to use Adblock but then YouTube almost won't work with it in
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you
were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
-a-aAdblock +. No problems. ;)
use so I deleted it, tried another ad blocker and the arseholes took
my money but the program won't work so I'm over ad blockers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a'Adblock+' is the one i use, (the free version) I spend a *lot* of
time on youtube unbothered by ads!. Adblock+ themselves throw up an ad (After updates) telling me how many thousands of ads they have blocked
for me,(True) and if I take the paid version how much *better* it
would be.!!!. Nah, all good here.
On 24/09/2026 10:08 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:32 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
Daryl wrote:
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans
being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had
been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and
terrorist cells everywhere
You really swallow that MAGA tripe wholesale don't you?
Trump has been an absolute disaster as she predicted it would be, and
she was right on the money.
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be
like under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every
single one of them has come true....
really? post them here
jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 8:10 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 24/9/2026 3:48 pm, jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 1:18 PM, Daryl wrote:I used to use Adblock but then YouTube almost won't work with it in
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you
were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis. >>>>>
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
-a-aAdblock +. No problems. ;)
use so I deleted it, tried another ad blocker and the arseholes took
my money but the program won't work so I'm over ad blockers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a'Adblock+' is the one i use, (the free version) I spend a *lot* of
time on youtube unbothered by ads!. Adblock+ themselves throw up an ad
(After updates) telling me how many thousands of ads they have blocked
for me,(True) and if I take the paid version how much *better* it
would be.!!!. Nah, all good here.
I use uBlock Origin. totally free and more popular than Adblock+. (11 million users, vs 3 million)
Keithr0 wrote:is the perfect example. She wanted a largish screen so she could watch
On 24/09/2026 9:35 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:56 pm, Rod Speed wrote:there's even more between it and other androids
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>> basis.
-aAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone >>>>>
-aMine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 Pro. >>>
They are both premium models aimed at the same market.
most users don't need such technically capable phones
Most users would survive quite happily with a very basic phone. My wife
Daryl wrote:
On 24/9/2026 8:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:56 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with >>>>>>>>> a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have thought you >>>>>>>>> were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's-aAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis. >>>>
-aMine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 Pro.
for a mediocre product like-a-a an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they
nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
I've had 3 Pixels and not a problem with any of them, my wifes iPhone
needs charging every night whereas I only charge my Pixel 7 every
second night and it hasn't changed its battery life in the almost 4
yrs I've owned it so stuffed if I know what he's talking about.
I only charge my moto g8 when it needs charging. usually on the third
day. but now the OS has introduced a 'charge to 80% only' capacity, to extend battery life.
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll
worry when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate >>>>>>> the "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of software >>>>>>> deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated that >>>>>>> a Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle East, the >>>>>>> Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human interceded. Such >>>>>>> incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being
absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless
lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
At least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't
start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
So somehow "a senile puppet controlled by the left" is worse than a
mentally deranged psychopath controlled by the far right?
Neither are great options.
Makes me wonder what sort of place the US is when those 2 were the
best candidates they could find out of a population of 360 million.
Actually two stupid enough to get involved in trying to be president
On 25/09/2026 12:08 am, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:32 pm, Axel wrote:
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had
been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and
terrorist cells everywhere
Prove it....
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:32 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
Daryl wrote:
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being >>>>>>> absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had been
in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and terrorist cells everywhere
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be like
under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every single one
of them has come true....
really? post them here
On 25/09/2026 4:06 am, Rod Speed wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 21:57:57 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
wrote:
On 24/9/2026 8:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:56 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote-aThere is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>> basis.
-aAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone >>>>>
-aMine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
Pro.
-aOdd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when theyfor a mediocre product like-a-a an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even >>>>> get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
I've had 3 Pixels and not a problem with any of them, my wifes iPhone
needs charging every night whereas I only charge my Pixel 7 every
second night
What matters is how much each of you use your phone
and it hasn't changed its battery life in the almost 4 yrs I've owned
it so stuffed if I know what he's talking about.
With time between charges, the data Choice provided
on that when they listed the pixels as phones to avoid
In the case of the shutting down due to being too hot,
a mate of mine has gone thru the 9 and 10 which had
that problem and now has an 11 which doesn't
None of the Google phones that I have had have had that problem.
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll >>>>>>>>> worry when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate >>>>>>>> the "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of software >>>>>>>> deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated that >>>>>>>> a Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle East, the >>>>>>>> Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human interceded. Such >>>>>>>> incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being >>>>>>> absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid brainless >>>>> lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
At least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't
start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
So somehow "a senile puppet controlled by the left" is worse than a
mentally deranged psychopath controlled by the far right?
Neither are great options.
Makes me wonder what sort of place the US is when those 2 were the
best candidates they could find out of a population of 360 million.
Actually two stupid enough to get involved in trying to be president
You can't say that Trump was stupid to get in, he's making billions out
of it.
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>>>> basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
-amost apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use >>>>>>> Android
I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those
because they do their job better than anything else that I could
find,
-aMe too with the iphones
but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available
-aComplete and utter bullshit with what can get into the app store,
whether you can sideload stuff, and the risk of infection
And with how long the manufacturer keeps updating
the OS for the iphone you own in spades
I've had 3 Pixels, and a Nexus before that, never had a bad app.
Irrelevant to the fact that its much easier for a bad app
to get into the playstore with androids and samsungs
Bad apps have got into the Apple walled garden too.
-aFuck all in fact
Sideloading is up to you, you get to make your
own decision rather-a-a than having it made for you.
-aBut you can't do that stupidity on an iphone
So jailbreaking isn't actually a thing then,
Only a fool does that with an iphone given that
you no longer get OS updates, can't use apple
pay anymore, etc etc etc
Apple is a pain in the arse to exchange
any data with anything non-a-a Apple.
-aComplete and utter drivel
I do it all the time
I can send pictures from my Pixel, to my laptopvia Bluetooth,-a-a try >>>> doing that with an iPad.
I do it all the time with my iphone, using wifi
Samsungs are even worse with their app stores
at a better price point.
-aAnother stupid like with the google pixels you stupidly bought
after google stopped handing them out for close to free
iPhone 18 Pro - $2299
Pixel 11 Pro - $1849
$350 difference.
-aPity about the other pairs
And with the samsungs other than their low end shit which you don't >>>>> buy
On 24-Sep-26 8:10 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 24/9/2026 3:48 pm, jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 1:18 PM, Daryl wrote:I used to use Adblock but then YouTube almost won't work with it in
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>>> bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
-a-aAdblock +. No problems. ;)
use so I deleted it, tried another ad blocker and the arseholes took
my money but the program won't work so I'm over ad blockers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a'Adblock+' is the one i use, (the free version) I spend a *lot* of
time on youtube unbothered by ads!. Adblock+ themselves throw up an ad (After updates) telling me how many thousands of ads they have blocked
for me,(True) and if I take the paid version how much *better* it would be.!!!. Nah, all good here.
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>>> basis.
-aAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
-aMine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11
Pro.
for a mediocre product like-a-a an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even >>>>>> get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
-aOdd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they >>>>> nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
I've had 3 Pixels and not a problem with any of them, my wifes
iPhone needs charging every night whereas I only charge my Pixel 7
every second night
-aWhat matters is how much each of you use your phone
and it hasn't changed its battery life in the almost 4 yrs I've
owned it so stuffed if I know what he's talking about.
-aWith time between charges, the data Choice provided
on that when they listed the pixels as phones to avoid
-aIn the case of the shutting down due to being too hot,
a mate of mine has gone thru the 9 and 10 which had
that problem and now has an 11 which doesn't
None of the Google phones that I have had have had that problem.
Because you never owned one
Noddy wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had
been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and
terrorist cells everywhere
Prove it....
LOL, its funny to call any US politician a "rabid lefty"
when most of their left
are well to right of our most right wing pollies (Hanson excluded).
jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 8:10 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 24/9/2026 3:48 pm, jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 1:18 PM, Daryl wrote:I used to use Adblock but then YouTube almost won't work with it in
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you
were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis. >>>>>
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
-a-aAdblock +. No problems. ;)
use so I deleted it, tried another ad blocker and the arseholes took
my money but the program won't work so I'm over ad blockers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a'Adblock+' is the one i use, (the free version) I spend a *lot* of
time on youtube unbothered by ads!. Adblock+ themselves throw up an ad
(After updates) telling me how many thousands of ads they have blocked
for me,(True) and if I take the paid version how much *better* it
would be.!!!. Nah, all good here.
I use uBlock Origin. totally free and more popular than Adblock+. (11 million users, vs 3 million)
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now having a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I see >>>>>>>>>>>>>> complaining about "AI" taking over and watching their >>>>>>>>>>>>>> every move seem to be the same people who are happy to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> walk around with a smart phone in their pocket with Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>> listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
-aMe neitherYeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about. >>>>>
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking >>>>>>>>>>>> that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless >>>>>>>>>>>> taxis and cars, cashless society, digital drivers licenses, >>>>>>>>>>>> "Mygov" accounts where everything you do is recorded, yada >>>>>>>>>>>> yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain because >>>>>>>>>>>> we don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because we want to >>>>>>>>>>>> put it all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll >>>>>>>>>>>> worry when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a >>>>>>>>>>> rogue AI could doing some major damage to the world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a whole >>>>>>>> lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems wished to >>>>>> turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, not
the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
using it as a weapon. No idea where a phone comes into this.
Even simple systems doing autonomous high frequency trading have >>>>>>>> caused problems in stock markets on occasion.
-aAnd its trivial to turn those off
but he didn't think that it will happen simply because the >>>>>>>>>>> billionaires that run/control the AI could be at risk of >>>>>>>>>>> loosing all their money so they will pull the plug on it if >>>>>>>>>>> there is any sign of that happening.
-aHe's right about that
How naive!
-aBullshit
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts their >>>>>>>>>>> massive incomes.
Clocky wrote:
On 24/09/2026 10:08 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:32 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
Daryl wrote:
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President. >>>>>>>>
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans
being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had
been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and
terrorist cells everywhere
You really swallow that MAGA tripe wholesale don't you?
ppl were flocking into the US from all over the world unfettered via the southern border. Trump stopped it. fact. Trump bashers never mention
the-a good things he's done, only the bad stuff.
Trump has been an absolute disaster as she predicted it would be, and
she was right on the money.
care to mention them?
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be
like under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every
single one of them has come true....
really? post them here
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll >>>>>>>>>> worry when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate >>>>>>>>> the "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of
software deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated >>>>>>>>> that a Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle >>>>>>>>> East, the Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human
interceded. Such incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being >>>>>>>> absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
At least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't
start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
So somehow "a senile puppet controlled by the left" is worse than a
mentally deranged psychopath controlled by the far right?
Neither are great options.
Makes me wonder what sort of place the US is when those 2 were the
best candidates they could find out of a population of 360 million.
-aActually two stupid enough to get involved in trying to be president
You-a can't say that Trump was stupid to get in, he's making billions
out of it.
Bullshit he is
On 25/9/2026 8:59 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 4:06 am, Rod Speed wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 21:57:57 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
wrote:
On 24/9/2026 8:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:56 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote-aOdd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they >>>>> nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>>> basis.
-aAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone >>>>>>
-aMine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy >>>>> -aThere is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 >>>>> Pro.
for a mediocre product like-a-a an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't even >>>>>> get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
I've had 3 Pixels and not a problem with any of them, my wifes
iPhone needs charging every night whereas I only charge my Pixel 7
every second night
What matters is how much each of you use your phone
and it hasn't changed its battery life in the almost 4 yrs I've
owned it so stuffed if I know what he's talking about.
With time between charges, the data Choice provided
on that when they listed the pixels as phones to avoid
In the case of the shutting down due to being too hot,
a mate of mine has gone thru the 9 and 10 which had
that problem and now has an 11 which doesn't
None of the Google phones that I have had have had that problem.
Me either, maybe he's talking about wireless charging?
My Pixel 7 has that feature but I've never used it because it rarely
needs to charged when I'm in my car.
On 25-Sep-26 2:21 PM, Axel wrote:
jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 8:10 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 24/9/2026 3:48 pm, jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 1:18 PM, Daryl wrote:I used to use Adblock but then YouTube almost won't work with it in
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every
move and listened in on our conversations they would have
thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous
basis.
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with
someone about something then next time you look at your phone
YouTube or Facebook and an ad relating to what you were
discussing appears.
-a-aAdblock +. No problems. ;)
use so I deleted it, tried another ad blocker and the arseholes
took my money but the program won't work so I'm over ad blockers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a'Adblock+' is the one i use, (the free version) I spend a *lot* of
time on youtube unbothered by ads!. Adblock+ themselves throw up an
ad (After updates) telling me how many thousands of ads they have
blocked for me,(True) and if I take the paid version how much
*better* it would be.!!!. Nah, all good here.
I use uBlock Origin. totally free and more popular than Adblock+. (11
million users, vs 3 million)
~~~~~~~~
-aAnd????.>
On 25/09/2026 3:08 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll >>>>>>>>> worry when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate >>>>>>>> the "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of
software deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated
that a Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle
East, the Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human
interceded. Such incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being >>>>>>> absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
At least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't
start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
So somehow "a senile puppet controlled by the left" is worse than a
mentally deranged psychopath controlled by the far right?
Neither are great options.
Makes me wonder what sort of place the US is when those 2 were the
best candidates they could find out of a population of 360 million.
Actually two stupid enough to get involved in trying to be president
You-a can't say that Trump was stupid to get in, he's making billions
out of it.
On 25/09/2026 12:08 am, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:32 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
Daryl wrote:
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans
being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had
been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and
terrorist cells everywhere
Bullshit, that's gabber from the paranoid far right. What terrorist
cells were overrunning the US during Biden, and Obama's presidencies?
Trump has been using the presidency as a profit centre making billions,
and has managed to start a war that he can't win and can't even find a
way out that-a has brought a shitfest on the entire world. He's a prime candidate for retrospective abortion.
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be
like under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every
single one of them has come true....
really? post them here
On 25/9/2026 1:16 pm, jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 8:10 PM, Daryl wrote:Adblock free version used to work very well but for some unknown
On 24/9/2026 3:48 pm, jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 1:18 PM, Daryl wrote:I used to use Adblock but then YouTube almost won't work with it in
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with >>>>>>>> a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have thought you
were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis. >>>>>
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
-a-aAdblock +. No problems. ;)
use so I deleted it, tried another ad blocker and the arseholes took
my money but the program won't work so I'm over ad blockers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-a'Adblock+' is the one i use, (the free version) I spend a *lot* of
time on youtube unbothered by ads!. Adblock+ themselves throw up an
ad (After updates) telling me how many thousands of ads they have
blocked for me,(True) and if I take the paid version how much
*better* it would be.!!!. Nah, all good here.
reason YouTube decided it didn't like it anymore possibly because the content makers make some of their income from ads so if the ads are
blocked they don't make as much.
I could just pay for YouTube premium
but I already pay for a couple of streaming services, Netflix and
Prime and I don't want to pay anymore.
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!. >>>>>>
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having a rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see complaining about "AI" taking over and watching >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their every move seem to be the same people who are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy to walk around with a smart phone in their pocket >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
-aMe neitherYeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about. >>>>>>
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone >>>>>>>>>>>>> that by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked >>>>>>>>>>>>> around with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked >>>>>>>>>>>>> our every move and listened in on our conversations they >>>>>>>>>>>>> would have thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet here we >>>>>>>>>>>>> are all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless >>>>>>>>>>>>> taxis and cars, cashless society, digital drivers
licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything you do is >>>>>>>>>>>>> recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain >>>>>>>>>>>>> because we don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because we >>>>>>>>>>>>> want to put it all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll worry when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a >>>>>>>>>>>> rogue AI could doing some major damage to the world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a whole >>>>>>>>> lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems wished
to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, not
the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
using it as a weapon. No idea where a phone comes into this.
Even simple systems doing autonomous high frequency trading >>>>>>>>> have caused problems in stock markets on occasion.
-aAnd its trivial to turn those off
but he didn't think that it will happen simply because the >>>>>>>>>>>> billionaires that run/control the AI could be at risk of >>>>>>>>>>>> loosing all their money so they will pull the plug on it if >>>>>>>>>>>> there is any sign of that happening.
-aHe's right about that
How naive!
-aBullshit
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts >>>>>>>>>>>> their massive incomes.
On 25/09/2026 5:30 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll >>>>>>>>>>> worry when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to
automate the "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece >>>>>>>>>> of software deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated >>>>>>>>>> that a Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle >>>>>>>>>> East, the Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human
interceded. Such incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans
being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
At least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't
start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
So somehow "a senile puppet controlled by the left" is worse than
a mentally deranged psychopath controlled by the far right?
Neither are great options.
Makes me wonder what sort of place the US is when those 2 were the
best candidates they could find out of a population of 360 million.
-aActually two stupid enough to get involved in trying to be president
You-a can't say that Trump was stupid to get in, he's making billions
out of it.
Bullshit he is
Get your head out of your arse and see what is going on.
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Noddy wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being >>>>>>>> absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had
been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and
terrorist cells everywhere
Bullshit, that's gabber from the paranoid far right. What terrorist
cells were overrunning the US during Biden, and Obama's presidencies?
Trump has been using the presidency as a profit centre making billions,
and has managed to start a war that he can't win and can't even find a
way out that has brought a shitfest on the entire world.
He's a prime candidate for retrospective abortion.--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be like >>>>> under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every single one >>>>> of them has come true....
really? post them here
Clocky wrote:
On 24/09/2026 10:08 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:32 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
Daryl wrote:
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President. >>>>>>>>
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans
being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had
been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and
terrorist cells everywhere
You really swallow that MAGA tripe wholesale don't you?
ppl were flocking into the US from all over the world unfettered via the southern border.
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>>> basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 >>>>> Pro.
for a mediocre product like an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming
turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and
even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't >>>>>> even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they >>>>> nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
I've had 3 Pixels and not a problem with any of them, my wifes iPhone >>>> needs charging every night whereas I only charge my Pixel 7 every
second night
What matters is how much each of you use your phone
and it hasn't changed its battery life in the almost 4 yrs I've owned >>>> it so stuffed if I know what he's talking about.
With time between charges, the data Choice provided
on that when they listed the pixels as phones to avoid
In the case of the shutting down due to being too hot,
a mate of mine has gone thru the 9 and 10 which had
that problem and now has an 11 which doesn't
None of the Google phones that I have had have had that problem.
Me either, maybe he's talking about wireless charging?
My Pixel 7 has that feature but I've never used it because it rarely
needs to charged when I'm in my car.
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 3:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>>>>> basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
Apple snob.
most apple owners are. or else they're just too stupid to use >>>>>>>> Android
I have 2 Apple products, an iPad, and an iPod nano. I have those >>>>>>> because they do their job better than anything else that I could >>>>>>> find,
Me too with the iphones
but iPhones meh no better than 100 other products available
Complete and utter bullshit with what can get into the app store, >>>>>> whether you can sideload stuff, and the risk of infection
And with how long the manufacturer keeps updating
the OS for the iphone you own in spades
I've had 3 Pixels, and a Nexus before that, never had a bad app.
Irrelevant to the fact that its much easier for a bad app
to get into the playstore with androids and samsungs
Bad apps have got into the Apple walled garden too.
Fuck all in fact
Sideloading is up to you, you get to make your
own decision rather than having it made for you.
But you can't do that stupidity on an iphone
So jailbreaking isn't actually a thing then,
Only a fool does that with an iphone given that
you no longer get OS updates, can't use apple
pay anymore, etc etc etc
So you can do that stupidity on an iphone if you are prepared to accept
the consiquencies.
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>>>> basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly >>>>>>> buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 >>>>>> Pro.
for a mediocre product like an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming >>>>>>> turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and >>>>>>> even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't >>>>>>> even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they >>>>>> nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
I've had 3 Pixels and not a problem with any of them, my wifes
iPhone needs charging every night whereas I only charge my Pixel 7 >>>>> every second night
What matters is how much each of you use your phone
and it hasn't changed its battery life in the almost 4 yrs I've
owned it so stuffed if I know what he's talking about.
With time between charges, the data Choice provided
on that when they listed the pixels as phones to avoid
In the case of the shutting down due to being too hot,
a mate of mine has gone thru the 9 and 10 which had
that problem and now has an 11 which doesn't
None of the Google phones that I have had have had that problem.
Because you never owned one
Pathetic even for you.
Axel wrote
Clocky wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Noddy wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had
been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and
terrorist cells everywhere
You really swallow that MAGA tripe wholesale don't you?
ppl were flocking into the US from all over the world unfettered via
the southern border. Trump stopped it. fact. Trump bashers never
mention the good things he's done, only the bad stuff.
Trump has been an absolute disaster as she predicted it would be, and
she was right on the money.
care to mention them?
US debt going up faster than a SpaceX rocket.
A stupid war that is fucking over the entire world.
ICE operatives murdering US citizens.
etc.--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll >>>>>>>>>>> worry when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate >>>>>>>>>> the "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of
software deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated >>>>>>>>>> that a Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle >>>>>>>>>> East, the Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human >>>>>>>>>> interceded. Such incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being >>>>>>>>> absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
At least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't >>>>>> start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
So somehow "a senile puppet controlled by the left" is worse than a >>>>> mentally deranged psychopath controlled by the far right?
Neither are great options.
Makes me wonder what sort of place the US is when those 2 were the >>>>> best candidates they could find out of a population of 360 million.
Actually two stupid enough to get involved in trying to be president
You can't say that Trump was stupid to get in, he's making billions
out of it.
Bullshit he is
Get your head out of your arse and see what is going on.
Daryl wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>>>> basis.
And you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone
Mine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly >>>>>>> buy
There is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel 11 >>>>>> Pro.
for a mediocre product like an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming >>>>>>> turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and >>>>>>> even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't >>>>>>> even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
Odd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when they >>>>>> nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
I've had 3 Pixels and not a problem with any of them, my wifes
iPhone needs charging every night whereas I only charge my Pixel 7 >>>>> every second night
What matters is how much each of you use your phone
and it hasn't changed its battery life in the almost 4 yrs I've
owned it so stuffed if I know what he's talking about.
With time between charges, the data Choice provided
on that when they listed the pixels as phones to avoid
In the case of the shutting down due to being too hot,
a mate of mine has gone thru the 9 and 10 which had
that problem and now has an 11 which doesn't
None of the Google phones that I have had have had that problem.
Me either, maybe he's talking about wireless charging?
My Pixel 7 has that feature but I've never used it because it rarely
needs to charged when I'm in my car.
The RAV4 has a tray under the dash with wireless charging. Useful if
you're using Waze on a long journey.
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:30 pm, Axel wrote:
when you type a question into the URL or search bar, they offer
suggestions based on common similar queries. nothing to do with your
phone listening
So it's just a coinkidink that I can be talking to someone about
something very specific, and if I start typing "how much...." into
google it will auto fill the exact question I was going to ask?
Right :)
Maybe you could take a moment to explain how Google knows that that's
what I was going to ask.....
you must have google listening turned on then. ie. listening for 'hey google'. I don't. I'm happy to just use voice command into the search bar
Rod Speed wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
More bullshit
APU
Yep, that was more of your usual bullshit
no yours-a :)
Noddy wrote:
I had an Ipod once years ago. The wife bought it for me for a birthday
present. I have a reasonably decent music collection with about 30
thousand mp3's,
lol. yeah sure..
On 25/09/2026 5:29 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 25/9/2026 8:59 am, Keithr0 wrote:The RAV4 has a tray under the dash with wireless charging. Useful if
On 25/09/2026 4:06 am, Rod Speed wrote:
On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 21:57:57 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
wrote:
On 24/9/2026 8:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:56 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote-aOdd that I've never had those problems with any of that, when
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy wrote
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
-aThey don't listen in on our conversations
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>>>> basis.
-aAnd you were stupid enough to have that steaming turd of a phone >>>>>>>
-aMine doesn't do anything that stupid
I'm not stupid enough to pay the Apple Tax
There is no apple tax with the high end smartphones you stupidly buy >>>>>> -aThere is a $350 difference between an iPhone 18 pro and a Pixel >>>>>> 11 Pro.
for a mediocre product like-a-a an iPhone.
Says the fuckwit pom that stupidly buys the google pixel steaming >>>>>>> turds which overheat and shut down in perfectly normal temps and >>>>>>> even with the latest, have a fucked time on battery so you can't >>>>>>> even
get away with just an overnight charge if you use the phone much
they nobbled the Pixel 6a battery, I got a 9a from them for free.
I've had 3 Pixels and not a problem with any of them, my wifes
iPhone needs charging every night whereas I only charge my Pixel 7
every second night
What matters is how much each of you use your phone
and it hasn't changed its battery life in the almost 4 yrs I've
owned it so stuffed if I know what he's talking about.
With time between charges, the data Choice provided
on that when they listed the pixels as phones to avoid
In the case of the shutting down due to being too hot,
a mate of mine has gone thru the 9 and 10 which had
that problem and now has an 11 which doesn't
None of the Google phones that I have had have had that problem.
Me either, maybe he's talking about wireless charging?
My Pixel 7 has that feature but I've never used it because it rarely
needs to charged when I'm in my car.
you're using Waze on a long journey.
Keithr0 wrote:How would you have any idea what "most users" need?
They are both premium models aimed at the same market.
most users don't need such technically capable phones
Noddy wrote:
You're about as funny as a punctured lung. Except when you post links
to AI videos without knowing they're AI. That's when you're funny :)
it's only YOUR unsubstantiated claim that I'm unaware the narrations or animations are AI.
but by now everyone here should be well aware that
you love to tell lies in the hope that they're believed.
Axel wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
More bullshit
APU
Yep, that was more of your usual bullshit
no yours :)
Tell me again how you decided there was a benefit to inviting this cunt
of a thing in here with your incessant cross posting?
Noddy wrote:
On 25/09/2026 12:13 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:11 pm, Axel wrote:
The second time Biden actually won
I was talking about the last US election.
You still fucked it up. At the last US election the choice was
between the pants shitting Pedo and Kamala Harris.
Oh that's right, she replaced Biden. I forgot about that.
Jesus *CHRIST* you are fucking retarded.....
no dickhead
On 25/09/2026 12:36 pm, Axel wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
More bullshit
APU
Yep, that was more of your usual bullshit
no yours-a :)
Tell me again how you decided there was a benefit to inviting this cunt
of a thing in here with your incessant cross posting?
Keithr0 wrote
Daryl wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
With time between charges, the data Choice provided
on that when they listed the pixels as phones to avoid
In the case of the shutting down due to being too hot,
a mate of mine has gone thru the 9 and 10 which had
that problem and now has an 11 which doesn't
None of the Google phones that I have had have had that problem.
Me either, maybe he's talking about wireless charging?
My Pixel 7 has that feature but I've never used it because it rarely
needs to charged when I'm in my car.
The RAV4 has a tray under the dash with wireless charging. Useful if
you're using Waze on a long journey.
If I'm going on a long journey I just plug my phone in, today we did a 300km round trip in the wife's Golf, she just plugged her phone in to
keep it charged then we used Google maps on Carplay which is wireless,
too easy.
On 25/09/2026 3:08 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Makes me wonder what sort of place the US is when those 2 were the
best candidates they could find out of a population of 360 million.
Actually two stupid enough to get involved in trying to be president
You-a can't say that Trump was stupid to get in, he's making billions out
of it.
Keithr0 wrote:
You-a can't say that Trump was stupid to get in, he's making billions >>>> out of it.
Bullshit he is
Get your head out of your arse and see what is going on.
so that's a 'no I can't support what I said' then..
https://www.opensecrets.org/trump/trump-properties--
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy9rg133lrjo
https://www.indy100.com/politics/trump/trump-wealth-second-term-crypto-2677883290
https://theconversation.com/donald-trump-has-made-us-2-2-billion-in-his-second-term-how-does-that-stack-up-against-other-us-presidents-288973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cYsRyCcTFA
On 25/09/2026 11:14 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 25/09/2026 12:13 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:11 pm, Axel wrote:
The second time Biden actually won
I was talking about the last US election.
You still fucked it up. At the last US election the choice was
between the pants shitting Pedo and Kamala Harris.
Oh that's right, she replaced Biden. I forgot about that.
Jesus *CHRIST* you are fucking retarded.....
no dickhead
Yes, fuckwit. You were just arguing a point that didn't actually exist.
It takes a special kind of stupid to do that :)
Noddy wrote:
Trump is a fucking imbecile who is infatuated with his own reflection
in the mirror. The only person around here who thinks he's a smart man
with decent policies is Felix, and it should come as no surprise to
anyone that he also thinks that *he* is intelligent too :)
I know I'm intelligent, as does everyone who knows me IRL.
your problem is that you either don't know, or understand what intelligence is, and
confuse incidentals such as age or medication induced confusion, forgetfulness, silly mistakes, lack of forethought, laziness, etc., as
poor intelligence.
and of course, as I've said, intelligence is
relative, as everyone is more or less intelligent relative to what or
who they're compared to. but just saying someone is intelligent, it's usually meant more intelligent than average, or the baseline which is
100 IQ, which I am.
it will be interesting to see how well you are
physically and mentally when you're in your eighties. unfortunately I
won't be able to witness it.
On 24/09/2026 10:08 pm, Axel wrote:
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had
been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and
terrorist cells everywhere
You really swallow that MAGA tripe wholesale don't you? Trump has been
an absolute disaster as she predicted it would be, and she was right on
the money.
On 25/09/2026 12:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
How would you have any idea what "most users" need?They are both premium models aimed at the same market.
most users don't need such technically capable phones
On 25/09/2026 12:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
How would you have any idea what "most users" need?They are both premium models aimed at the same market.
most users don't need such technically capable phones
Keithr0 wrote:Proof?
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking there!. >>>>>>>
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having a rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see complaining about "AI" taking over and watching >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their every move seem to be the same people who are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy to walk around with a smart phone in their pocket >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
-aMe neitherYeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried about. >>>>>>>
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked >>>>>>>>>>>>>> around with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked >>>>>>>>>>>>>> our every move and listened in on our conversations they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would have thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet here we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless >>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxis and cars, cashless society, digital drivers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything you do is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to put it all in a big building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll worry when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a >>>>>>>>>>>>> rogue AI could doing some major damage to the world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a whole >>>>>>>>>> lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems wished >>>>>>>> to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, not >>>>>>> the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
I certainly don't have any red high heels..
using it as a weapon. No idea where a phone comes into this.
Even simple systems doing autonomous high frequency trading >>>>>>>>>> have caused problems in stock markets on occasion.
-aAnd its trivial to turn those off
but he didn't think that it will happen simply because the >>>>>>>>>>>>> billionaires that run/control the AI could be at risk of >>>>>>>>>>>>> loosing all their money so they will pull the plug on it if >>>>>>>>>>>>> there is any sign of that happening.
-aHe's right about that
How naive!
-aBullshit
They are happy for AI to do its thing until it impacts >>>>>>>>>>>>> their massive incomes.
On 25/09/2026 11:20 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
You're about as funny as a punctured lung. Except when you post links
to AI videos without knowing they're AI. That's when you're funny :)
it's only YOUR unsubstantiated claim that I'm unaware the narrations
or animations are AI.
I'm quite happy for everyone to make that decision for themselves. Seen
any more vids of plans flying with one wing, or trucks teetering on the
edge of cliffs? :)
but by now everyone here should be well aware that you love to tell
lies in the hope that they're believed.
I think it would be more accurate to say that everyone here is well
aware that you're an idiot.
On 25/09/2026 11:35 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
Trump is a fucking imbecile who is infatuated with his own reflection
in the mirror. The only person around here who thinks he's a smart
man with decent policies is Felix, and it should come as no surprise
to anyone that he also thinks that *he* is intelligent too :)
I know I'm intelligent, as does everyone who knows me IRL.
ROTFL :)
Everyone who knows you in real life is either excessively kind, or remarkably stupid :)
your problem is that you either don't know, or understand what
intelligence is, and confuse incidentals such as age or medication
induced confusion, forgetfulness, silly mistakes, lack of forethought,
laziness, etc., as poor intelligence.
I understand "intelligence" just fine, and enough to know that you not
Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 5:30 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll >>>>>>>>>>>> worry when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to
automate the "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece >>>>>>>>>>> of software deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated >>>>>>>>>>> that a Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle >>>>>>>>>>> East, the Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human >>>>>>>>>>> interceded. Such incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
At least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't >>>>>>> start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
So somehow "a senile puppet controlled by the left" is worse than >>>>>> a mentally deranged psychopath controlled by the far right?
Neither are great options.
Makes me wonder what sort of place the US is when those 2 were the >>>>>> best candidates they could find out of a population of 360 million.
-aActually two stupid enough to get involved in trying to be president >>>You-a can't say that Trump was stupid to get in, he's making billions >>>> out of it.
Bullshit he is
Get your head out of your arse and see what is going on.
so that's a 'no I can't support what I said' then..
Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 3:08 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, I'll >>>>>>>>>> worry when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to automate >>>>>>>>> the "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some piece of
software deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated >>>>>>>>> that a Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the Middle >>>>>>>>> East, the Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a human
interceded. Such incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans being >>>>>>>> absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
At least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he didn't
start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
So somehow "a senile puppet controlled by the left" is worse than a
mentally deranged psychopath controlled by the far right?
Neither are great options.
Makes me wonder what sort of place the US is when those 2 were the
best candidates they could find out of a population of 360 million.
Actually two stupid enough to get involved in trying to be president
You-a can't say that Trump was stupid to get in, he's making billions
out of it.
how
On 25/09/2026 11:35 am, Axel wrote:
I may not even live to see my 80's Felix, but that's beside the point.
We're talking about you and your belief that you are "intelligent",
which is a remarkably amusing comment from the person who consistently
makes the most *unintelligent* posts in this group and has done since
the day you first arrived here.
it will be interesting to see how well you are
physically and mentally when you're in your eighties. unfortunately I
won't be able to witness it.
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrotePoor old rod, you've completely lost it.
Axel wrote
Clocky wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Noddy wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet >>>>>>>>> controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest >>>>>> narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had >>>>> been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and >>>>> terrorist cells everywhere
You really swallow that MAGA tripe wholesale don't you?
ppl were flocking into the US from all over the world unfettered via
the southern border. Trump stopped it. fact. Trump bashers never
mention the-a good things he's done, only the bad stuff.
Trump has been an absolute disaster as she predicted it would be,
and she was right on the money.
-acare to mention them?
US debt going up faster than a SpaceX rocket.
More of your mindless fuckwit pom bullshit
A stupid war that is fucking over the entire world.
Bullshit on your fuckwit pom mindless bullshit,
most obviously with those that done use fossil
fuels or fertilizers or who are hunter gatherers
ICE operatives murdering US citizens.
Fuck all of those have been murderered
etc.
Clocky wrote:
You really swallow that MAGA tripe wholesale don't you?
ppl were flocking into the US from all over the world unfettered via the southern border. Trump stopped it. fact. Trump bashers never mention
the-a good things he's done, only the bad stuff.
Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 12:08 am, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:32 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
Daryl wrote:
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President. >>>>>>>>
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans
being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had
been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and
terrorist cells everywhere
Bullshit, that's gabber from the paranoid far right. What terrorist
cells were overrunning the US during Biden, and Obama's presidencies?
who knows how many there were, and who knows how many more there would
be now if the borders had remained open, and what mess the USA would be
in now due to the flood of illegals.
Trump has been using the presidency as a profit centre making billions,
how? I don't follow such things
and has managed to start a war that he can't win and can't even find a
way out that-a has brought a shitfest on the entire world. He's a prime
candidate for retrospective abortion.
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be
like under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every
single one of them has come true....
really? post them here
Keithr0 wrote:
Trump has been using the presidency as a profit centre making billions,
how? I don't follow such things
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Noddy wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans
being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had
been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and
terrorist cells everywhere
Bullshit, that's gabber from the paranoid far right. What terrorist
cells were overrunning the US during Biden, and Obama's presidencies?
Trump has been using the presidency as a profit centre making
billions, and has managed to start a war that he can't win and can't
even find a way out that-a has brought a shitfest on the entire world.
Bullshit on the entire world stupid claim, most obviously
with those that don't use any fossil fuels or fertilizers and
hunter gatherers
He's a prime-a-a candidate for retrospective abortion.
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be
like under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every
single one of them has come true....
really? post them here
On 25/09/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
Just read the news. Oh sorry, you said that you don't read much, must be something to do with the onset of dementia.Get your head out of your arse and see what is going on.
so that's a 'no I can't support what I said' then..
On 25/09/2026 2:29 pm, Axel wrote:
Clocky wrote:
You really swallow that MAGA tripe wholesale don't you?
ppl were flocking into the US from all over the world unfettered via
the southern border. Trump stopped it. fact. Trump bashers never
mention the-a good things he's done, only the bad stuff.
Lol :)
So what is some of the "good stuff" he's done? Shall we take a look?
He dragged in Elon Musk to cut a swathe of reductions through the administrative channels with DOGE promising billion dollar savings that never materialised, and refund cheques for everyone that never arrived.
He cut *billions* in assistance programs to families, child care and
social services.
He cut funding for Medicaid, healthcare services and nutritional
assistance programs.
He imposed Tariffs on a seemingly random basis for imported goods which
is achieving nothing other than raising the prices of goods.
He's started a trade war with Canada.
He's cut funding for medical research and vaccination programs, and appointed an anti vaxing former heroin addict as Secretary for Health.
He's instigated a "legal thuggery" regime of ICE agents who are exempt
from prosecution and who random randomly snatch people off the street
and hold in detention without charge based on nothing other than racial profile.
He's ordered the destruction of private vessels in foreign waters on the assumption that they're "running drugs" which is something that is completely out of his jurisdiction.
He's ordered the capture, detainment and trial *on US soil* of an
elected foreign leader which is also something that is beyond his jurisdiction.
He's failed to stop the war between Russia and Ukraine, despite claiming that he would have done so in a matter of days once he was elected.
Despite claiming he would do so, he has resorted to extreme lengths to
block the Epstein files from ever being released. That includes starting
a completely unnecessary war with Iran which he has totally fucked into
a cocked hat, and is now blaming every other country on the planet for
the mess it has become because no one offered to help him.
Despite his repeated ridiculous exaggerated claims about how good things
are in the US, the cost of living over there has never been higher than
it is right now. Fuel prices are off the scale. Real estate and rent
prices are through the roof. Inflation is running rampant. Interest
rates are rising. The situation has become *so* bad that former glued on undying Trump supporters like Majorie Taylor Greene are now coming out
and criticising Trump at every opportunity.
Despite what you may think, Trump has done *nothing* other than make not only a huge mess domestically, but has totally fucked up foreign
relations with virtually every other country on the planet, and to the
point where it will take a *very* long time for the US to ever be
trusted by anyone else ever again.
So tell us all Felix. Despite *all* of this I've just mentioned here
which is all verifiable and only a small portion of the utrer mess thyis cunt of a thing has made, What is it that *you* think he has done well?
On 25/9/2026 8:31 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 25/09/2026 2:29 pm, Axel wrote:
Clocky wrote:
You really swallow that MAGA tripe wholesale don't you?
ppl were flocking into the US from all over the world unfettered via
the southern border. Trump stopped it. fact. Trump bashers never
mention the-a good things he's done, only the bad stuff.
Lol :)
So what is some of the "good stuff" he's done? Shall we take a look?
He dragged in Elon Musk to cut a swathe of reductions through the
administrative channels with DOGE promising billion dollar savings
that never materialised, and refund cheques for everyone that never
arrived.
He cut *billions* in assistance programs to families, child care and
social services.
He cut funding for Medicaid, healthcare services and nutritional
assistance programs.
He imposed Tariffs on a seemingly random basis for imported goods
which is achieving nothing other than raising the prices of goods.
He's started a trade war with Canada.
He's cut funding for medical research and vaccination programs, and
appointed an anti vaxing former heroin addict as Secretary for Health.
He's instigated a "legal thuggery" regime of ICE agents who are exempt
from prosecution and who random randomly snatch people off the street
and hold in detention without charge based on nothing other than
racial profile.
He's ordered the destruction of private vessels in foreign waters on
the assumption that they're "running drugs" which is something that is
completely out of his jurisdiction.
He's ordered the capture, detainment and trial *on US soil* of an
elected foreign leader which is also something that is beyond his
jurisdiction.
He's failed to stop the war between Russia and Ukraine, despite
claiming that he would have done so in a matter of days once he was
elected.
Despite claiming he would do so, he has resorted to extreme lengths to
block the Epstein files from ever being released. That includes
starting a completely unnecessary war with Iran which he has totally
fucked into a cocked hat, and is now blaming every other country on
the planet for the mess it has become because no one offered to help him.
Despite his repeated ridiculous exaggerated claims about how good
things are in the US, the cost of living over there has never been
higher than it is right now. Fuel prices are off the scale. Real
estate and rent prices are through the roof. Inflation is running
rampant. Interest rates are rising. The situation has become *so* bad
that former glued on undying Trump supporters like Majorie Taylor
Greene are now coming out and criticising Trump at every opportunity.
Despite what you may think, Trump has done *nothing* other than make
not only a huge mess domestically, but has totally fucked up foreign
relations with virtually every other country on the planet, and to the
point where it will take a *very* long time for the US to ever be
trusted by anyone else ever again.
So tell us all Felix. Despite *all* of this I've just mentioned here
which is all verifiable and only a small portion of the utrer mess
thyis cunt of a thing has made, What is it that *you* think he has
done well?
Of his very many fuck ups starting trade wars with most countries and especially Canada and the US's other allies has to go down as one of the biggest and costly cock ups in US history.
Its one thing to fuck over you enemies but another level entirely to try
and fuck over your allies and friends, there is little doubt that Trump
is the dumbest US leader in history.
Axel wrote:
Clocky wrote:
On 24/09/2026 10:08 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 9:32 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 24/09/2026 4:03 pm, Axel wrote:
Daryl wrote:
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President. >>>>>>>>>
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had
been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and
terrorist cells everywhere
You really swallow that MAGA tripe wholesale don't you?
ppl were flocking into the US from all over the world unfettered via
the southern border.
Errr you are aware that todays' America was created by people
"flocking into" aren't you?
Crikey! They even made it a tenet of their attraction.
rCLGive me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!rCY-a-a Emma Lazarus. 1883.
On a plaque in the Statute of Liberty.
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote
Axel wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
More bullshit
APU
Yep, that was more of your usual bullshit
-ano yours-a :)
Tell me again how you decided there was a benefit to inviting this
cunt of a thing in here with your incessant cross posting?
He did nothing of the sort, I chose to see if this
group was still as bad as it ever was given that
usenet has imploded so spectacularly
On 25/9/2026 7:34 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 25/09/2026 12:36 pm, Axel wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:
Axel <none@not.here> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
More bullshit
APU
Yep, that was more of your usual bullshit
no yours-a :)
Tell me again how you decided there was a benefit to inviting this
cunt of a thing in here with your incessant cross posting?
Hey Darren, he's not an outright liar like you! If Rod annoys you, I
count that as a win.-a ;-)
On 25/09/2026 11:35 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
Trump is a fucking imbecile who is infatuated with his own
reflection in the mirror. The only person around here who thinks
he's a smart man with decent policies is Felix, and it should come
as no surprise to anyone that he also thinks that *he* is
intelligent too :)
I know I'm intelligent, as does everyone who knows me IRL.
ROTFL :)
Everyone who knows you in real life is either excessively kind, or remarkably stupid :)
your problem is that you either don't know, or understand what
intelligence is, and confuse incidentals such as age or medication
induced confusion, forgetfulness, silly mistakes, lack of
forethought, laziness, etc., as poor intelligence.
I understand "intelligence" just fine, and enough to know that you not
only do not have a considerable stock of it, but never did. Your
"Monster Cables" bullshit was more than enough evidence for anyone
that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
I could post a list of things you've claimed that have made you look
like a world class retard, but we've been down that road now a number
of times and it never registers with you.
That's how Dunning Kruger works buddy.
and of course, as I've said, intelligence is relative, as everyone is
more or less intelligent relative to what or who they're compared to.
but just saying someone is intelligent, it's usually meant more
intelligent than average, or the baseline which is 100 IQ, which I am.
Lol :)
Anyone who goes out to buy a new car and realises that it has a whole
bunch of short comings that don't suit them, but buys it anyway
because they liked the price is *far* from "baseline" IQ level :)
it will be interesting to see how well you are physically and
mentally when you're in your eighties. unfortunately I won't be able
to witness it.
I may not even live to see my 80's Felix, but that's beside the point.
We're talking about you and your belief that you are "intelligent",
which is a remarkably amusing comment from the person who consistently
makes the most *unintelligent* posts in this group and has done since
the day you first arrived here.
Noddy wrote:
On 25/09/2026 12:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:How would you have any idea what "most users" need?
They are both premium models aimed at the same market.
most users don't need such technically capable phones
That'd be the say way that you always claim what "everyone knows" Buffo.
hth
On 25/09/2026 6:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Proof?
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having a rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see complaining about "AI" taking over and watching >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their every move seem to be the same people who are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy to walk around with a smart phone in their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walked around with a mini computer in our pockets that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracked our every move and listened in on our
conversations they would have thought you were bat shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crazy. Yet here we are all rocking that shit and no one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxis and cars, cashless society, digital drivers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything you do is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we want to put it all in a big building it's a problem. >>>>>>>>
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll worry when I see something worth worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rogue AI could doing some major damage to the world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a >>>>>>>>>>> whole lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems wished >>>>>>>>> to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE,
not the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
I certainly don't have any red high heels..
Noddy wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:20 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
You're about as funny as a punctured lung. Except when you post
links to AI videos without knowing they're AI. That's when you're
funny :)
it's only YOUR unsubstantiated claim that I'm unaware the narrations
or animations are AI.
I'm quite happy for everyone to make that decision for themselves.
Seen any more vids of plans flying with one wing, or trucks teetering
on the edge of cliffs? :)
but by now everyone here should be well aware that you love to tell
lies in the hope that they're believed.
I think it would be more accurate to say that everyone here is well
aware that you're an idiot.
There is no proof of that Fraudster. There is however proof that
"everyone" thinks that you're a liar.
ps. Remember *not* to reply Buffo.
On 25/9/2026 8:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:35 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
Trump is a fucking imbecile who is infatuated with his own
reflection in the mirror. The only person around here who thinks
he's a smart man with decent policies is Felix, and it should come
as no surprise to anyone that he also thinks that *he* is
intelligent too :)
I know I'm intelligent, as does everyone who knows me IRL.
ROTFL :)
Everyone who knows you in real life is either excessively kind, or
remarkably stupid :)
your problem is that you either don't know, or understand what
intelligence is, and confuse incidentals such as age or medication
induced confusion, forgetfulness, silly mistakes, lack of
forethought, laziness, etc., as poor intelligence.
I understand "intelligence" just fine, and enough to know that you not
Bullshit you do! You need to have intelligence in order to
*understand* intelligence and you have proven you have a severe
shortfall. Not only could you not complete high school, not only could
you not sign on to any apprenticeship ever, your insecurity complex
cause you to lie about your achievements?
On 25/09/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Just read the news. Oh sorry, you said that you don't read much, must
On 25/09/2026 5:30 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll worry when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to >>>>>>>>>>>> automate the "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some >>>>>>>>>>>> piece of software deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated >>>>>>>>>>>> that a Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Middle East, the Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a >>>>>>>>>>>> human interceded. Such incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet >>>>>>>>> controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
At least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he
didn't start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
So somehow "a senile puppet controlled by the left" is worse
than a mentally deranged psychopath controlled by the far right? >>>>>>> Neither are great options.
Makes me wonder what sort of place the US is when those 2 were
the best candidates they could find out of a population of 360
million.
-aActually two stupid enough to get involved in trying to be
president
You-a can't say that Trump was stupid to get in, he's making
billions out of it.
Bullshit he is
Get your head out of your arse and see what is going on.
so that's a 'no I can't support what I said' then..
be something to do with the onset of dementia.
Noddy wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:35 am, Axel wrote:
I may not even live to see my 80's Felix,
-abut that's beside the point. We're talking about you and your belief
that you are "intelligent", which is a remarkably amusing comment
from the person who consistently makes the most *unintelligent* posts
in this group and has done since the day you first arrived here.
Poor Fraudster. Sooo very insecure and bitter about his failure of a
life that he has to abuse anyone who doesn't believe his lies.
On 25/9/26 8:19 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Just read the news. Oh sorry, you said that you don't read much, must
On 25/09/2026 5:30 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll worry when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to >>>>>>>>>>>>> automate the "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some >>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of software deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated >>>>>>>>>>>>> that a Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Middle East, the Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a >>>>>>>>>>>>> human interceded. Such incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President. >>>>>the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet >>>>>>>>>> controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid >>>>>>>>>> brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
At least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he
didn't start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
So somehow "a senile puppet controlled by the left" is worse
than a mentally deranged psychopath controlled by the far right? >>>>>>>> Neither are great options.
Makes me wonder what sort of place the US is when those 2 were >>>>>>>> the best candidates they could find out of a population of 360 >>>>>>>> million.
-aActually two stupid enough to get involved in trying to be
president
You-a can't say that Trump was stupid to get in, he's making
billions out of it.
Bullshit he is
Get your head out of your arse and see what is going on.
so that's a 'no I can't support what I said' then..
be something to do with the onset of dementia.
I guess you would know about dementia- from personal experience
On 25/9/26 8:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
I understand "intelligence" just fine, and enough to know that you not
only do not have a considerable stock of it, but never did. Your
"Monster Cables" bullshit was more than enough evidence for anyone
that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
you know nothing about them dickhead
I may not even live to see my 80's Felix, but that's beside the point.
We're talking about you and your belief that you are "intelligent",
which is a remarkably amusing comment from the person who consistently
makes the most *unintelligent* posts in this group and has done since
the day you first arrived here.
no
On 25/9/26 7:43 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
and that's about the third time now you've told him. guess he's a slow learner
On 25/9/26 8:27 pm, alvey wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:35 am, Axel wrote:
I may not even live to see my 80's Felix,
hopefully..
On 25/9/26 6:52 pm, alvey wrote:
Errr you are aware that todays' America was created by people
"flocking into" aren't you?
that's irrelevant to today's situation
On 25/09/2026 11:12 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 8:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
I understand "intelligence" just fine, and enough to know that you
not only do not have a considerable stock of it, but never did. Your
"Monster Cables" bullshit was more than enough evidence for anyone
that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
you know nothing about them dickhead
I don't know a great deal Felix,
but I know enough about them to know that they're nothing other than
over priced shit that do absolutely nothing *other* than cost a lot of money. As was explained to you at the time, and by your mate Jerky
Birko if I remember correctly, a video cable either meets a standard
or it does not. If it does, then the required video output is
achieved. If it exceeds the standard, the video quality is *not*
upscaled as a result.
You believed that it did, and you were the *only* person who held that
view.
I may not even live to see my 80's Felix, but that's beside the
point. We're talking about you and your belief that you are
"intelligent", which is a remarkably amusing comment from the person
who consistently makes the most *unintelligent* posts in this group
and has done since the day you first arrived here.
no
And we have yet *another* example of the kinds of compelling arguments
you make :)
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Clocky wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Noddy wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet >>>>>>>>>> controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid >>>>>>>>>> brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest >>>>>>> narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had >>>>>> been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and >>>>>> terrorist cells everywhere
You really swallow that MAGA tripe wholesale don't you?
ppl were flocking into the US from all over the world unfettered via >>>> the southern border. Trump stopped it. fact. Trump bashers never
mention the good things he's done, only the bad stuff.
Trump has been an absolute disaster as she predicted it would be,
and she was right on the money.
care to mention them?
US debt going up faster than a SpaceX rocket.
More of your mindless fuckwit pom bullshit
A stupid war that is fucking over the entire world.
Bullshit on your fuckwit pom mindless bullshit,
most obviously with those that done use fossil
fuels or fertilizers or who are hunter gatherers
ICE operatives murdering US citizens.
Fuck all of those have been murderered
etc.
Poor old rod, you've completely lost it.
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Noddy wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet
controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest
narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had
been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and
terrorist cells everywhere
Bullshit, that's gabber from the paranoid far right. What terrorist
cells were overrunning the US during Biden, and Obama's presidencies?
Trump has been using the presidency as a profit centre making
billions, and has managed to start a war that he can't win and can't
even find a way out that has brought a shitfest on the entire world.
Bullshit on the entire world stupid claim, most obviously
with those that don't use any fossil fuels or fertilizers and
hunter gatherers
and there are fuck all of them left in this world.
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2He's a prime candidate for retrospective abortion.
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be >>>>>>> like under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every
single one of them has come true....
really? post them here
Rod Speed wrote
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote
Tell me again how you decided there was a benefit to inviting this
cunt of a thing in here with your incessant cross posting?
He did nothing of the sort, I chose to see if this
group was still as bad as it ever was given that
usenet has imploded so spectacularly
and that's about the third time now you've told him.
guess he's a slow learner
On 25/09/2026 11:07 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 7:43 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
and that's about the third time now you've told him. guess he's a slow
learner
I don't see the oxygen theiving cunt's posts Felix :)
On 25/09/2026 11:12 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 8:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
I understand "intelligence" just fine, and enough to know that you
not only do not have a considerable stock of it, but never did. Your
"Monster Cables" bullshit was more than enough evidence for anyone
that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
you know nothing about them dickhead
I don't know a great deal Felix, but I know enough about them to know
that they're nothing other than over priced shit that do absolutely
nothing *other* than cost a lot of money. As was explained to you at the time, and by your mate Jerky Birko if I remember correctly, a video
cable either meets a standard or it does not. If it does, then the
required video output is achieved. If it exceeds the standard, the video quality is *not* upscaled as a result.
You believed that it did, and you were the *only* person who held that
view.
I may not even live to see my 80's Felix, but that's beside the
point. We're talking about you and your belief that you are
"intelligent", which is a remarkably amusing comment from the person
who consistently makes the most *unintelligent* posts in this group
and has done since the day you first arrived here.
no
And we have yet *another* example of the kinds of compelling arguments
you make :)
On 25/09/2026 11:07 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 7:43 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
and that's about the third time now you've told him. guess he's a slow
learner
I don't see the oxygen theiving cunt's posts Felix :)
On 26/9/2026 12:12 am, Noddy wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:07 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 7:43 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
and that's about the third time now you've told him. guess he's a
slow learner
I don't see the oxygen theiving cunt's posts Felix :)
Yeah, right! So his posts shouldn't worry you in the slightest then, right?-a You're a tool Darren, a total tool!
On 25/9/26 8:15 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 6:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Proof?
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having a rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see complaining about "AI" taking over and watching >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their every move seem to be the same people who are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy to walk around with a smart phone in their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walked around with a mini computer in our pockets that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracked our every move and listened in on our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversations they would have thought you were bat shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crazy. Yet here we are all rocking that shit and no one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, driverless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxis and cars, cashless society, digital drivers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything you do is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we want to put it all in a big building it's a problem. >>>>>>>>>My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rogue AI could doing some major damage to the world
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll worry when I see something worth worrying about. >>>>>>>>>
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a >>>>>>>>>>>> whole lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems wished >>>>>>>>>> to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, >>>>>>>>> not the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
I certainly don't have any red high heels..
damn!
:)
On 25/9/26 8:19 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 6:39 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Just read the news. Oh sorry, you said that you don't read much, must
On 25/09/2026 5:30 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Noddy wrote
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll worry when I see something worth worrying about.
The fact that some in the military want to use "AI" to >>>>>>>>>>>>> automate the "Kill chain" is something of a worry, some >>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of software deciding who to kill.
It has nearly happened already, some Yank "AI" hallucinated >>>>>>>>>>>>> that a Chinese ship was carrying nuclear stuff to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Middle East, the Yanks were ready to intercept it, when a >>>>>>>>>>>>> human interceded. Such incidents can lead to wars.
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President. >>>>>the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet >>>>>>>>>> controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid >>>>>>>>>> brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
At least Biden had competent advisers not yes men, and he
didn't start stupid wars that he couldn't end.
So somehow "a senile puppet controlled by the left" is worse
than a mentally deranged psychopath controlled by the far right? >>>>>>>> Neither are great options.
Makes me wonder what sort of place the US is when those 2 were >>>>>>>> the best candidates they could find out of a population of 360 >>>>>>>> million.
-aActually two stupid enough to get involved in trying to be
president
You-a can't say that Trump was stupid to get in, he's making
billions out of it.
Bullshit he is
Get your head out of your arse and see what is going on.
so that's a 'no I can't support what I said' then..
be something to do with the onset of dementia.
I guess you would know about dementia- from personal experience
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Noddy wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet >>>>>>>>> controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid
brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest >>>>>> narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had >>>>> been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and >>>>> terrorist cells everywhere
Bullshit, that's gabber from the paranoid far right. What terrorist
cells were overrunning the US during Biden, and Obama's presidencies?
Trump has been using the presidency as a profit centre making
billions, and has managed to start a war that he can't win and can't
even find a way out that-a has brought a shitfest on the entire world.
Bullshit on the entire world stupid claim, most obviously
with those that don't use any fossil fuels or fertilizers and
hunter gatherers
and there are fuck all of them left in this world.
Irrelevant to the stupidity of you the entire world stupid claim
And its not just those that haven't ended up with a shitfest most
obviously those like me who haven't been affected at all
He's a prime-a-a candidate for retrospective abortion.
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be >>>>>>>> like under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every >>>>>>>> single one of them has come true....
really? post them here
On 25/09/2026 11:14 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 8:15 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 6:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Proof?
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now having a rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see complaining about "AI" taking over and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watching their every move seem to be the same people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who are happy to walk around with a smart phone in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone that by 2026 we'd be living in a world where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we all walked around with a mini computer in our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pockets that tracked our every move and listened in on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our conversations they would have thought you were bat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking that shit and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, digital >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we want to put it all in a big building it's a problem. >>>>>>>>>>My son believes that its possible that within 10 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a rogue AI could doing some major damage to the world >>>>>>>>>>
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up, I'll worry when I see something worth worrying about. >>>>>>>>>>
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a >>>>>>>>>>>>> whole lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems >>>>>>>>>>> wished to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, >>>>>>>>>> not the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
I certainly don't have any red high heels..
damn!
:)
Actually there is proof that you do
https://imgur.com/a/CZG0TZR
On 25/09/2026 11:14 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 8:15 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 6:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Proof?
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now having a rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see complaining about "AI" taking over and watching >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their every move seem to be the same people who are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy to walk around with a smart phone in their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> walked around with a mini computer in our pockets that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracked our every move and listened in on our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversations they would have thought you were bat shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crazy. Yet here we are all rocking that shit and no one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, digital >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we want to put it all in a big building it's a problem. >>>>>>>>>>My son believes that its possible that within 10 years a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rogue AI could doing some major damage to the world
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit up, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll worry when I see something worth worrying about. >>>>>>>>>>
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a >>>>>>>>>>>>> whole lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems >>>>>>>>>>> wished to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, >>>>>>>>>> not the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
I certainly don't have any red high heels..
damn!
:)
Actually there is proof that you do
https://imgur.com/a/CZG0TZR
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Noddy wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet >>>>>>>>>> controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid >>>>>>>>>> brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's greatest >>>>>>> narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she had >>>>>> been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and sundry, and >>>>>> terrorist cells everywhere
Bullshit, that's gabber from the paranoid far right. What terrorist >>>>> cells were overrunning the US during Biden, and Obama's presidencies?
Trump has been using the presidency as a profit centre making
billions, and has managed to start a war that he can't win and can't >>>>> even find a way out that has brought a shitfest on the entire world.
Bullshit on the entire world stupid claim, most obviously
with those that don't use any fossil fuels or fertilizers and
hunter gatherers
and there are fuck all of them left in this world.
Irrelevant to the stupidity of your the entire world stupid claim
And its not just those that haven't ended up with a shitfest most
obviously those like me who haven't been affected at all
Really?
OK, I'll amend that - the whole world except rod speed.
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2He's a prime candidate for retrospective abortion.
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be >>>>>>>>> like under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every >>>>>>>>> single one of them has come true....
really? post them here
On 26/9/2026 11:19 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:14 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 8:15 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 6:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Proof?
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking over the landscape..PPL that *were* in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> favour are now having a rethink... (Alas, a tad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people I see complaining about "AI" taking over and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watching their every move seem to be the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who are happy to walk around with a smart >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone in their pocket with Google listening in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worried about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone that by 2026 we'd be living in a world where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we all walked around with a mini computer in our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pockets that tracked our every move and listened in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on our conversations they would have thought you were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bat shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking that shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, digital >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we don't take any notice. Yet suddenly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we want to put it all in a big building it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up, I'll worry when I see something worth worrying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about.
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?My son believes that its possible that within 10 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a rogue AI could doing some major damage to the world >>>>>>>>>>>
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems >>>>>>>>>>>> wished to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, >>>>>>>>>>> not the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
I certainly don't have any red high heels..
damn!
:)
Actually there is proof that you do
https://imgur.com/a/CZG0TZR
Obviously fake proof. The laws of physics dictate you can't wear
stiletto heels on a golf course. A practical impossibility.
On 26/9/2026 11:19 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:14 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 8:15 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 6:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Proof?
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over the landscape..PPL that *were* in favour are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now having a rethink... (Alas, a tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see complaining about "AI" taking over and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watching their every move seem to be the same people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who are happy to walk around with a smart phone in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their pocket with Google listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be worried >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone that by 2026 we'd be living in a world where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we all walked around with a mini computer in our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pockets that tracked our every move and listened in on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our conversations they would have thought you were bat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking that shit and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, digital >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we don't take any notice. Yet suddenly because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we want to put it all in a big building it's a problem. >>>>>>>>>>>My son believes that its possible that within 10 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a rogue AI could doing some major damage to the world >>>>>>>>>>>
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up, I'll worry when I see something worth worrying about. >>>>>>>>>>>
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you
should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems >>>>>>>>>>>> wished to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE ROGUE, >>>>>>>>>>> not the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
I certainly don't have any red high heels..
damn!
:)
Actually there is proof that you do
https://imgur.com/a/CZG0TZR
Obviously fake proof. The laws of physics dictate you can't wear
stiletto heels on a golf course. A practical impossibility.
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Noddy wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet >>>>>>>>>>> controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid >>>>>>>>>>> brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's
greatest narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she >>>>>>> had been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and
sundry, and terrorist cells everywhere
Bullshit, that's gabber from the paranoid far right. What
terrorist cells were overrunning the US during Biden, and Obama's >>>>>> presidencies?
Trump has been using the presidency as a profit centre making
billions, and has managed to start a war that he can't win and
can't even find a way out that-a has brought a shitfest on the
entire world.
Bullshit on the entire world stupid claim, most obviously
with those that don't use any fossil fuels or fertilizers and
hunter gatherers
and there are fuck all of them left in this world.
Irrelevant to the stupidity of your the entire world stupid claim
And its not just those that haven't ended up with a shitfest most
obviously those like me who haven't been affected at all
Really?
Yep, in fact I have benefitted, because of the effect Trump's
antics have had on the value of some of my shares
OK, I'll amend that - the whole world except rod speed.
Plenty of others have seen the same benefit I have
He's a prime-a-a candidate for retrospective abortion.
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be >>>>>>>>>> like under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every >>>>>>>>>> single one of them has come true....
really? post them here
Noddy wrote:
you know nothing about them dickhead
I don't know a great deal Felix,
you have no idea what it was all about
I may not even live to see my 80's Felix, but that's beside the
point. We're talking about you and your belief that you are
"intelligent", which is a remarkably amusing comment from the person
who consistently makes the most *unintelligent* posts in this group
and has done since the day you first arrived here.
no
And we have yet *another* example of the kinds of compelling arguments
you make :)
you're not worth the trouble
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Noddy wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as >>>>>>>>>>>>> President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet >>>>>>>>>>>> controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid >>>>>>>>>>>> brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's
greatest narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she >>>>>>>> had been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and
sundry, and terrorist cells everywhere
Bullshit, that's gabber from the paranoid far right. What
terrorist cells were overrunning the US during Biden, and Obama's >>>>>>> presidencies?
Trump has been using the presidency as a profit centre making
billions, and has managed to start a war that he can't win and >>>>>>> can't even find a way out that has brought a shitfest on the
entire world.
Bullshit on the entire world stupid claim, most obviously
with those that don't use any fossil fuels or fertilizers and
hunter gatherers
and there are fuck all of them left in this world.
Irrelevant to the stupidity of your the entire world stupid claim
And its not just those that haven't ended up with a shitfest most
obviously those like me who haven't been affected at all
Really?
Yep, in fact I have benefitted, because of the effect Trump's
antics have had on the value of some of my shares
OK, I'll amend that - the whole world except rod speed.
Plenty of others have seen the same benefit I have
The vast majority are worse off.
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2He's a prime candidate for retrospective abortion.
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would be >>>>>>>>>>> like under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, every >>>>>>>>>>> single one of them has come true....
really? post them here
jonz wrote:
On 25-Sep-26 2:21 PM, Axel wrote:-aand.. this is a public forum. so even if you're not interested in a better ad blocker, others may still be
jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 8:10 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 24/9/2026 3:48 pm, jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 1:18 PM, Daryl wrote:I used to use Adblock but then YouTube almost won't work with it in >>>>> use so I deleted it, tried another ad blocker and the arseholes
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>> basis.Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with
someone about something then next time you look at your phone
YouTube or Facebook and an ad relating to what you were
discussing appears.
-a-aAdblock +. No problems. ;)
took my money but the program won't work so I'm over ad blockers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a'Adblock+' is the one i use, (the free version) I spend a *lot* of
time on youtube unbothered by ads!. Adblock+ themselves throw up an
ad (After updates) telling me how many thousands of ads they have
blocked for me,(True) and if I take the paid version how much
*better* it would be.!!!. Nah, all good here.
I use uBlock Origin. totally free and more popular than Adblock+. (11
million users, vs 3 million)
~~~~~~~~
-aAnd????.>
time on youtube unbothered by ads!. Adblock+ themselves throw up an
ad (After updates) telling me how many thousands of ads they have
blocked for me,(True) and if I take the paid version how much
*better* it would be.!!!. Nah, all good here.
Xeno wrote:
On 26/9/2026 12:12 am, Noddy wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:07 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 7:43 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
and that's about the third time now you've told him. guess he's a
slow learner
I don't see the oxygen theiving cunt's posts Felix :)
Yeah, right! So his posts shouldn't worry you in the slightest then,
right?-a You're a tool Darren, a total tool!
lol. logic aint his forte
On 25/9/2026 1:16 pm, jonz wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~
On 24-Sep-26 8:10 PM, Daryl wrote:Adblock free version used to work very well but for some unknown reason YouTube decided it didn't like it anymore possibly because the content makers make some of their income from ads so if the ads are blocked they don't make as much.
On 24/9/2026 3:48 pm, jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 1:18 PM, Daryl wrote:I used to use Adblock but then YouTube almost won't work with it in
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with a >>>>>>>> mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and
listened in on our conversations they would have thought you
were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis. >>>>>
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone
about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
-a-aAdblock +. No problems. ;)
use so I deleted it, tried another ad blocker and the arseholes took
my money but the program won't work so I'm over ad blockers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-a'Adblock+' is the one i use, (the free version) I spend a *lot* of
time on youtube unbothered by ads!. Adblock+ themselves throw up an ad
(After updates) telling me how many thousands of ads they have blocked
for me,(True) and if I take the paid version how much *better* it
would be.!!!. Nah, all good here.
I could just pay for YouTube premium but I already pay for a couple of streaming services, Netflix and Prime and I don't want to pay anymore.
On 26/09/2026 1:38 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
you know nothing about them dickhead
I don't know a great deal Felix,
you have no idea what it was all about
My memory seems to be a little bit better than yours :)
I may not even live to see my 80's Felix, but that's beside the
point. We're talking about you and your belief that you are
"intelligent", which is a remarkably amusing comment from the
person who consistently makes the most *unintelligent* posts in
this group and has done since the day you first arrived here.
no
And we have yet *another* example of the kinds of compelling
arguments you make :)
you're not worth the trouble
So you keep saying. And just like your mental mate, you keep on replying anyway.
On 25/09/2026 11:07 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 7:43 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
and that's about the third time now you've told him. guess he's a slow
learner
I don't see the oxygen theiving cunt's posts Felix :)
On 26/09/2026 1:38 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
you know nothing about them dickhead
I don't know a great deal Felix,
you have no idea what it was all about
My memory seems to be a little bit better than yours :)
I may not even live to see my 80's Felix, but that's beside the
point. We're talking about you and your belief that you are
"intelligent", which is a remarkably amusing comment from the
person who consistently makes the most *unintelligent* posts in
this group and has done since the day you first arrived here.
no
And we have yet *another* example of the kinds of compelling
arguments you make :)
you're not worth the trouble
So you keep saying. And just like your mental mate, you keep on
replying anyway.
On 25-Sep-26 6:23 PM, Axel wrote:
jonz wrote:
On 25-Sep-26 2:21 PM, Axel wrote:-a-aand.. this is a public forum. so even if you're not interested in a
jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 8:10 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 24/9/2026 3:48 pm, jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 1:18 PM, Daryl wrote:I used to use Adblock but then YouTube almost won't work with it
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it's >>>>>>>>> presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous >>>>>>>>> basis.Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that >>>>>>>>>>> by 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around >>>>>>>>>>> with a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every >>>>>>>>>>> move and listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with
someone about something then next time you look at your phone >>>>>>>> YouTube or Facebook and an ad relating to what you were
discussing appears.
-a-aAdblock +. No problems. ;)
in use so I deleted it, tried another ad blocker and the
arseholes took my money but the program won't work so I'm over ad >>>>>> blockers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a'Adblock+' is the one i use, (the free version) I spend a *lot*
of time on youtube unbothered by ads!. Adblock+ themselves throw
up an ad (After updates) telling me how many thousands of ads they
have blocked for me,(True) and if I take the paid version how much
*better* it would be.!!!. Nah, all good here.
I use uBlock Origin. totally free and more popular than Adblock+.
(11 million users, vs 3 million)
~~~~~~~~
-aAnd????.>
better ad blocker, others may still be
~~~~~~~~~
'Adblock+' is the one i use, (the free version) I spend a *lot* of
time on youtube unbothered by ads!. Adblock+ themselves throw up an
ad (After updates) telling me how many thousands of ads they have
blocked for me,(True) and if I take the paid version how much
*better* it would be.!!!. Nah, all good here.
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Axel wrote
Keithr0 wrote
Axel wrote
Noddy wrote
Axel wrote
Daryl wrote
Americans lead to wars, that has more to do with Americans >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being absolute fucking retards than anything else.
Not helped by having the worlds number one retard as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> President.
the only choice Americans had was Trump, or a senile puppet >>>>>>>>>>>>> controlled by the left, and who knows who else, with rabid >>>>>>>>>>>>> brainless lefty as vice president. they chose the best >>>>>>>>>>>>> option.
You've apparently not heard of Kamala Harris?
I mentioned her above. so yes, I have heard of Cackling Kamala
She would have been a far better choice than the world's >>>>>>>>>> greatest narcissist.
she's a rabid lefty. Trump closed the borders. if Biden and she >>>>>>>>> had been in charge, the US would be over run now by all and >>>>>>>>> sundry, and terrorist cells everywhere
Bullshit, that's gabber from the paranoid far right. What
terrorist cells were overrunning the US during Biden, and Obama's >>>>>>>> presidencies?
Trump has been using the presidency as a profit centre making >>>>>>>> billions, and has managed to start a war that he can't win and >>>>>>>> can't even find a way out that has brought a shitfest on the >>>>>>>> entire world.
Bullshit on the entire world stupid claim, most obviously
with those that don't use any fossil fuels or fertilizers and
hunter gatherers
and there are fuck all of them left in this world.
Irrelevant to the stupidity of your the entire world stupid claim
And its not just those that haven't ended up with a shitfest most
obviously those like me who haven't been affected at all
Really?
Yep, in fact I have benefitted, because of the effect Trump's
antics have had on the value of some of my shares
OK, I'll amend that - the whole world except rod speed.
Plenty of others have seen the same benefit I have
--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2The vast majority are worse off.
Irrelevant to the stupidity of your the entire world stupid claim
He's a prime candidate for retrospective abortion.
She made a whole bunch of predictions about what life would >>>>>>>>>>>> be like under a second Trump administration. Oddly enough, >>>>>>>>>>>> every single one of them has come true....
really? post them here
On 26/09/2026 12:07 pm, Xeno wrote:
Miserable old sod. Obviously you don't have a sense of humour.
On 26/9/2026 11:19 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:14 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 8:15 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 6:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Proof?
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking over the landscape..PPL that *were* in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> favour are now having a rethink... (Alas, a tad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people I see complaining about "AI" taking over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and watching their every move seem to be the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who are happy to walk around with a smart >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone in their pocket with Google listening in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worried about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone that by 2026 we'd be living in a world >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where we all walked around with a mini computer in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our pockets that tracked our every move and listened >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in on our conversations they would have thought you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were bat shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, digital >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we don't take any notice. Yet suddenly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we want to put it all in a big building it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up, I'll worry when I see something worth worrying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years a rogue AI could doing some major damage to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems >>>>>>>>>>>>> wished to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE >>>>>>>>>>>> ROGUE, not the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
I certainly don't have any red high heels..
damn!
:)
Actually there is proof that you do
https://imgur.com/a/CZG0TZR
Obviously fake proof. The laws of physics dictate you can't wear
stiletto heels on a golf course. A practical impossibility.
On 25-Sep-26 5:34 PM, Daryl wrote:
On 25/9/2026 1:16 pm, jonz wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~
On 24-Sep-26 8:10 PM, Daryl wrote:Adblock free version used to work very well but for some unknown
On 24/9/2026 3:48 pm, jonz wrote:
On 24-Sep-26 1:18 PM, Daryl wrote:I used to use Adblock but then YouTube almost won't work with it in
On 23/9/2026 10:49 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 23/09/2026 12:33 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
My phone keeps a record of title of any music playing in it'sHere's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told everyone that by >>>>>>>>> 2026 we'd be living in a world where we all walked around with >>>>>>>>> a mini computer in our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have thought you >>>>>>>>> were bat shit crazy.
They don't listen in on our conversations
presence, so, logically, it must be listening on a continuous basis. >>>>>>
Its also strange how you can be having a conversation with someone >>>>>> about something then next time you look at your phone YouTube or
Facebook and an ad relating to what you were discussing appears.
-a-aAdblock +. No problems. ;)
use so I deleted it, tried another ad blocker and the arseholes took
my money but the program won't work so I'm over ad blockers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-a'Adblock+' is the one i use, (the free version) I spend a *lot* of
time on youtube unbothered by ads!. Adblock+ themselves throw up an
ad (After updates) telling me how many thousands of ads they have
blocked for me,(True) and if I take the paid version how much
*better* it would be.!!!. Nah, all good here.
reason YouTube decided it didn't like it anymore possibly because the
content makers make some of their income from ads so if the ads are
blocked they don't make as much.
I could just pay for YouTube premium but I already pay for a couple of
streaming services, Netflix and Prime and I don't want to pay anymore.
Works 100% for me on youtube. (and other sites where ads are a problem)
BTW, Adblock and adblock(+) are different animals. ;)
Keithr0 wrote:
On 26/09/2026 12:07 pm, Xeno wrote:
Miserable old sod. Obviously you don't have a sense of humour.
On 26/9/2026 11:19 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:14 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 8:15 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 6:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Proof?
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble lurking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking over the landscape..PPL that *were* in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> favour are now having a rethink... (Alas, a tad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people I see complaining about "AI" taking over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and watching their every move seem to be the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who are happy to walk around with a smart >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone in their pocket with Google listening in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worried about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone that by 2026 we'd be living in a world >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where we all walked around with a mini computer in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our pockets that tracked our every move and listened >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in on our conversations they would have thought you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were bat shit crazy. Yet here we are all rocking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that shit and no one blinks an eye.
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, digital >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you do is recorded, yada yada yada.
It's all *already* happening, but we don't complain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we don't take any notice. Yet suddenly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we want to put it all in a big building it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up, I'll worry when I see something worth worrying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years a rogue AI could doing some major damage to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ?
Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be able to work out how to turn those off
That would depend on whether the owners of such systems >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wished to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE >>>>>>>>>>>>> ROGUE, not the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
I certainly don't have any red high heels..
damn!
:)
Actually there is proof that you do
https://imgur.com/a/CZG0TZR
Obviously fake proof. The laws of physics dictate you can't wear
stiletto heels on a golf course. A practical impossibility.
wish I did look like that, sans the shoes, of course. the reality is somewhat different
On 26/09/2026 1:41 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Send me a photo, and I'll fix it up :)
On 26/09/2026 12:07 pm, Xeno wrote:
Miserable old sod. Obviously you don't have a sense of humour.
On 26/9/2026 11:19 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:14 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 8:15 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 6:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Proof?
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking over the landscape..PPL that *were* in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> favour are now having a rethink... (Alas, a tad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people I see complaining about "AI" taking over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and watching their every move seem to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same people who are happy to walk around with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart phone in their pocket with Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worried about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone that by 2026 we'd be living in a world >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where we all walked around with a mini computer in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet here we are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's all *already* happening, but we don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complain because we don't take any notice. Yet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suddenly because we want to put it all in a big >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit up, I'll worry when I see something worth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years a rogue AI could doing some major damage to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a whole lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be able to work out how to turn those off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>That would depend on whether the owners of such systems >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wished to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROGUE, not the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
I certainly don't have any red high heels..
damn!
:)
Actually there is proof that you do
https://imgur.com/a/CZG0TZR
Obviously fake proof. The laws of physics dictate you can't wear
stiletto heels on a golf course. A practical impossibility.
wish I did look like that, sans the shoes, of course. the reality is
somewhat different
On 26/09/2026 10:24 am, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 26/9/2026 12:12 am, Noddy wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:07 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 7:43 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
and that's about the third time now you've told him. guess he's a
slow learner
I don't see the oxygen theiving cunt's posts Felix :)
Yeah, right! So his posts shouldn't worry you in the slightest then,
right?-a You're a tool Darren, a total tool!
lol. logic aint his forte
Irony Felix. Look it up.
On 26/09/2026 1:38 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
you know nothing about them dickhead
I don't know a great deal Felix,
you have no idea what it was all about
My memory seems to be a little bit better than yours :)
I may not even live to see my 80's Felix, but that's beside the
point. We're talking about you and your belief that you are
"intelligent", which is a remarkably amusing comment from the
person who consistently makes the most *unintelligent* posts in
this group and has done since the day you first arrived here.
no
And we have yet *another* example of the kinds of compelling
arguments you make :)
you're not worth the trouble
So you keep saying. And just like your mental mate, you keep on replying anyway.
On 26/9/2026 11:41 am, Noddy wrote:
On 26/09/2026 10:24 am, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 26/9/2026 12:12 am, Noddy wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:07 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 7:43 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
and that's about the third time now you've told him. guess he's a >>>>>> slow learner
I don't see the oxygen theiving cunt's posts Felix :)
Yeah, right! So his posts shouldn't worry you in the slightest then,
right?-a You're a tool Darren, a total tool!
lol. logic aint his forte
Irony Felix. Look it up.
Why ask Felix to do what you need to do yourself?
On 26/9/2026 8:21 am, Noddy wrote:
On 26/09/2026 1:38 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
you know nothing about them dickhead
I don't know a great deal Felix,
you have no idea what it was all about
My memory seems to be a little bit better than yours :)
Yeah, you remember events that never happened -
On 27/09/2026 9:14 am, lindsay wrote:
On 26/09/2026 5:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 26/9/2026 8:21 am, Noddy wrote:
On 26/09/2026 1:38 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
you know nothing about them dickhead
I don't know a great deal Felix,
you have no idea what it was all about
My memory seems to be a little bit better than yours :)
Yeah, you remember events that never happened -
like "he deleted them".
ROTFL :)
I tell ya,
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his car
using his wife's sewing machine :)
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his car
using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are indeed a
full blown retard.
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You,
unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are uneducable and we have seen the result of that - and none of it good.
On 26/09/2026 5:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 26/9/2026 8:21 am, Noddy wrote:
On 26/09/2026 1:38 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
you know nothing about them dickhead
I don't know a great deal Felix,
you have no idea what it was all about
My memory seems to be a little bit better than yours :)
Yeah, you remember events that never happened -
like "he deleted them".
Noddy wrote:Childish abuse? You don't need to be told anything about that alv,
On 27/09/2026 9:14 am, lindsay wrote:
On 26/09/2026 5:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 26/9/2026 8:21 am, Noddy wrote:
On 26/09/2026 1:38 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
you know nothing about them dickhead
I don't know a great deal Felix,
you have no idea what it was all about
My memory seems to be a little bit better than yours :)
Yeah, you remember events that never happened -
like "he deleted them".
ROTFL :)
Whooseagoodboy!
I tell ya,
All you tell is lies and childish abuse Fraudster.
On 27/09/2026 9:14 am, lindsay wrote:Ah Darren, there's a mental defective here and you see him in the mirror
On 26/09/2026 5:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 26/9/2026 8:21 am, Noddy wrote:
On 26/09/2026 1:38 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
you know nothing about them dickhead
I don't know a great deal Felix,
you have no idea what it was all about
My memory seems to be a little bit better than yours :)
Yeah, you remember events that never happened -
like "he deleted them".
ROTFL :)
I tell ya, in the history of Usenet there has never been anyone who was keener to make a total fucking *idiot* out of themselves than this
mental defective.
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his car
using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are indeed
a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You,
unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you cannot use
your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be powerful enough to
push a needle through car seat material", then yes. I provided nothing
of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are uneducable and
we have seen the result of that - and none of it good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills evaluation test
to obtain a "License" and considers himself to be an automotive expert,
you sure as shit need to ask a lot of *very* basic questions.
The kinds of questions that most people with a basic understanding of automotive related things would know the answer to easily :)Like CVs straighten the steering Darren?
Noddy wrote:It's all he is capable of. In the real world, he couldn't cut the
On 27/09/2026 9:14 am, lindsay wrote:
On 26/09/2026 5:15 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 26/9/2026 8:21 am, Noddy wrote:
On 26/09/2026 1:38 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
you know nothing about them dickhead
I don't know a great deal Felix,
you have no idea what it was all about
My memory seems to be a little bit better than yours :)
Yeah, you remember events that never happened -
like "he deleted them".
ROTFL :)
Whooseagoodboy!
I tell ya,
All you tell is lies and childish abuse Fraudster.
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his car
using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are indeed
a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You,
unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you cannot use
your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be powerful enough to
push a needle through car seat material", then yes. I provided nothing
of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are uneducable and
we have seen the result of that - and none of it good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills evaluation
test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to be an automotive
expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of *very* basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The licence,
in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed an
apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is the *skills evaluation*.-a >
The kinds of questions that most people with a basic understanding ofLike CVs straighten the steering Darren?
automotive related things would know the answer to easily :)
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his
car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are
indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You,
unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you cannot
use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be powerful
enough to push a needle through car seat material", then yes. I
provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are uneducable
and we have seen the result of that - and none of it good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills evaluation
test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to be an automotive
expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of *very* basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed an
apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is
the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and would
like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive mechanical apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been working as a T/
A under an mechanic for a significant period of time. Often the
shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to pass those modules and
work experience elsewhere where the relevant competencies can be
assessed and addressed where required.
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive
mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is "All Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on FWD cars or
are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately diagnose a simple fault
and resort to shotgunning as their only means of diagnosis!
The kinds of questions that most people with a basic understandingLike CVs straighten the steering Darren?
of automotive related things would know the answer to easily :)
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his car >>>>> using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are
indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You,
unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you cannot use
your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be powerful enough
to push a needle through car seat material", then yes. I provided
nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are uneducable
and we have seen the result of that - and none of it good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills evaluation
test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to be an automotive
expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of *very* basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed an
apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is the
*skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life then?
If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them to do that?
The kinds of questions that most people with a basic understanding ofLike CVs straighten the steering Darren?
automotive related things would know the answer to easily :)
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and would
like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them to do that? >>>
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive mechanical
apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been working as a
T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period of time. Often the
shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to pass those modules
and work experience elsewhere where the relevant competencies can be
assessed and addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way to
become a licenced mechanic.
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive
mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is "All
Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on FWD cars or
are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately diagnose a simple
fault and resort to shotgunning as their only means of diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning to me
is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar parts to
see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not optimal, is
useful, and sometimes necessary.
On 27/09/2026 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed an
apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is
the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and would
like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them to do that?
Of course there is, but don't run that idea past this dickhead. He'll
claim otherwise and insist that they cannot, but won't ever show you anything to prove it. Just like when he claimed that there was a "law"
that prevented anyone from doing a second apprenticeship that was
repealed in 1992.
No such law ever existed, as if it did a copy of it would exist in the statute books. A fact that he conveniently ignores.
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed an
apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is the
*skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life then?
If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them to do that?
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his >>>>>>> car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are
indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You,
unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you cannot
use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be powerful
enough to push a needle through car seat material", then yes. I
provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are uneducable >>>>>> and we have seen the result of that - and none of it good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills evaluation >>>>> test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to be an
automotive expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of *very*
basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed an
apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is
the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and would
like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them to do that? >>>
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive mechanical
apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been working as a
T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period of time. Often the
shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to pass those modules
and work experience elsewhere where the relevant competencies can be
assessed and addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way to
become a licenced mechanic.
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive
mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is "All
Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on FWD cars or
are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately diagnose a simple
fault and resort to shotgunning as their only means of diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning to me
is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar parts to
see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not optimal, is
useful, and sometimes necessary. It has to be done with care.>
The kinds of questions that most people with a basic understandingLike CVs straighten the steering Darren?
of automotive related things would know the answer to easily :)
On 27/09/2026 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed an
apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is
the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and would
like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them to do that?
Of course there is, but don't run that idea past this dickhead. He'll
claim otherwise and insist that they cannot, but won't ever show you
anything to prove it. Just like when he claimed that there was a "law"
that prevented anyone from doing a second apprenticeship that was
repealed in 1992.
No such law ever existed, as if it did a copy of it would exist in the statute books. A fact that he conveniently ignores.
As for the West Australian munt, a very long winded argument about trade licensing went on here some years ago where he insisted that in order to obtain his license he had to have his skills "tested" to see if he met
the standard necessary in order to hold one. In his usual chest beating style he made himself out to be something special which allowed him to
"pass the test" and obtain the license, when in reality all he or anyone else needed to do was present their trade qualifications and pay the required fee.
Which in itself is a joke really. He insisted that being licensed
"weeded out the shonks", but then went on to demonstrate how he knew
nothing about Windscreens or modern vehicle engine management systems :)
On 27/09/2026 7:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and
would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them
to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive mechanical
apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been working as a
T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period of time. Often the
shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to pass those modules
and work experience elsewhere where the relevant competencies can be
assessed and addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way to
become a licenced mechanic.
As usual, the mental case is completely full of shit.
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive
mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is "All
Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on FWD cars
or are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately diagnose a simple
fault and resort to shotgunning as their only means of diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning to
me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar parts
to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not optimal,
is useful, and sometimes necessary.
It's also a procedure that is recommended by many factory repair
manuals. Something our Western Australian munt would actually know if he spent time working as a mechanic rather than an accessory fitter :)
On 27/09/2026 5:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his >>>>>>>> car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are
indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You,
unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you cannot >>>>>> use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be powerful
enough to push a needle through car seat material", then yes. I
provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are uneducable >>>>>>> and we have seen the result of that - and none of it good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills
evaluation test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to be >>>>>> an automotive expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of *very* >>>>>> basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed
an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself
is the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and
would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them
to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive mechanical
apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been working as a
T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period of time. Often the
shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to pass those modules
and work experience elsewhere where the relevant competencies can be
assessed and addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way to
become a licenced mechanic.
Well that isn't correct.
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive
mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is "All
Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on FWD cars
or are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately diagnose a simple
fault and resort to shotgunning as their only means of diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning to
me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar parts
to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not optimal,
is useful, and sometimes necessary. It has to be done with care.>
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random kind
in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool effectively.
He even claimed that the GM/Holden Tech 2 is *not* an OBD2 scan tool.
Feel free to check that claim for yourself keith because it just goes to show how clueless and out of touch he is.
Go on, Google it.
Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed an
apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is
the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and would
like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them to do that?
Of course there is, but don't run that idea past this dickhead. He'll
claim otherwise and insist that they cannot, but won't ever show you
anything to prove it. Just like when he claimed that there was a "law"
that prevented anyone from doing a second apprenticeship that was
repealed in 1992.
No such law ever existed, as if it did a copy of it would exist in the
statute books. A fact that he conveniently ignores.
Errr... That is exactly what has been pointed out to you hundreds of
times about your claims of business ownership and qualifications. ie.
There is no evidence to support your claims.
Well played Buffo. You've outdone yourself.
On 27/09/2026 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed an
apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is
the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and would
like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them to do that?
Of course there is, but don't run that idea past this dickhead. He'll
claim otherwise and insist that they cannot, but won't ever show you anything to prove it. Just like when he claimed that there was a "law"
that prevented anyone from doing a second apprenticeship that was
repealed in 1992.
No such law ever existed, as if it did a copy of it would exist in the statute books. A fact that he conveniently ignores.
As for the West Australian munt, a very long winded argument about trade licensing went on here some years ago where he insisted that in order to obtain his license he had to have his skills "tested" to see if he met
the standard necessary in order to hold one. In his usual chest beating style he made himself out to be something special which allowed him to
"pass the test" and obtain the license, when in reality all he or anyone else needed to do was present their trade qualifications and pay the required fee.
Which in itself is a joke really. He insisted that being licensed
"weeded out the shonks", but then went on to demonstrate how he knew
nothing about Windscreens or modern vehicle engine management systems :)
On 27/09/2026 5:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning to
me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar parts
to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not optimal,
is useful, and sometimes necessary. It has to be done with care.>
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random kind
in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool effectively.
He even claimed that the GM/Holden Tech 2 is *not* an OBD2 scan tool.
Feel free to check that claim for yourself keith because it just goes to show how clueless and out of touch he is.
Go on, Google it.
https://tinyurl.com/yacma6xy
https://ibb.co/yFsPQHKx
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:55 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response. >>>>>>>
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information about >>>>>> anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made have been >>>>>> to boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows
that you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes
back at you
Nope. Wrong again Retcho. I was taking the piss.
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho...
Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim
you got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally
dishonest dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone
again how much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same,
Annndd there goes his left foot. I posted that pic because another
DATE member ('Derwyn", or something like that) said that I didn't
actually own one.
Yearh right.
oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes, look here's a picture of
them both together" isn't boasting?
See above. Hilariously, 'Derwyn" repeatedly expresses doubts about my
news and the only way to stop him is to errrr provide proof. (Big
sledge there DATErs)
Yearh right.
What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and
banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look and
see that I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
You lot are so block-headed that you refuse to learn. Ok Retcho, cite
where I said that.
You complained that after it was fixed after breaking down at the
Caboolture service area, you were pissed off that it no longer made
popping and banging noises on the overrun. (They are probably
artificial anyway)
What a little hypocrite you are boy.
Well according to you, but bizzarely, that doesn't worry me.
Woopydoo.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
lol!
"upset me"? Why would I get "upset" by a clown who has to invent
quotes to try and make a point?
Yearh right.
You been looking afer the grandies again Retcho?
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his >>>>>>> car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are
indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You,
unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you cannot
use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be powerful
enough to push a needle through car seat material", then yes. I
provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are uneducable >>>>>> and we have seen the result of that - and none of it good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills evaluation >>>>> test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to be an
automotive expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of *very*
basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed an
apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is
the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and would
like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them to do that? >>>
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive mechanical
apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been working as a
T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period of time. Often the
shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to pass those modules
and work experience elsewhere where the relevant competencies can be
assessed and addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way to
become a licenced mechanic.
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive
mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is "All
Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on FWD cars or
are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately diagnose a simple
fault and resort to shotgunning as their only means of diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning to me
is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar parts to
see if the problem moves.
useful, and sometimes necessary. It has to be done with care.>
The kinds of questions that most people with a basic understandingLike CVs straighten the steering Darren?
of automotive related things would know the answer to easily :)
On 27/9/2026 7:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his >>>>>>>> car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are
indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You,
unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you cannot >>>>>> use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be powerful
enough to push a needle through car seat material", then yes. I
provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are uneducable >>>>>>> and we have seen the result of that - and none of it good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills
evaluation test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to be >>>>>> an automotive expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of *very* >>>>>> basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed
an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself
is the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and
would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them
to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive mechanical
apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been working as a
T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period of time. Often the
shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to pass those modules
and work experience elsewhere where the relevant competencies can be
assessed and addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way to
become a licenced mechanic.
No, that is *your* take on it. I was referring to *Clocky's* experience.
We have discussed this before and I have often mentioned *assessment* as
a means of recognising ones trade skills if not attained in an apprenticeship.
On 27/9/2026 8:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 7:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and
would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them
to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive
mechanical apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been
working as a T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period of
time. Often the shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to
pass those modules and work experience elsewhere where the relevant
competencies can be assessed and addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way to
become a licenced mechanic.
As usual, the mental case is completely full of shit.
As usual, Keith read my words wrong and forgot what I have stated
several times in the past.>
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive
mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is "All
Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on FWD cars
or are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately diagnose a
simple fault and resort to shotgunning as their only means of
diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning to
me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar
parts to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not
optimal, is useful, and sometimes necessary.
It's also a procedure that is recommended by many factory repair
manuals. Something our Western Australian munt would actually know if
he spent time working as a mechanic rather than an accessory fitter :)
On 27/09/2026 8:55 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 7:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his >>>>>>>>> car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are >>>>>>>> indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You,
unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you cannot >>>>>>> use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be powerful >>>>>>> enough to push a needle through car seat material", then yes. I >>>>>>> provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are
uneducable and we have seen the result of that - and none of it >>>>>>>> good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills
evaluation test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to be >>>>>>> an automotive expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of
*very* basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed >>>>>> an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself >>>>>> is the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and
would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them
to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive
mechanical apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been
working as a T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period of
time. Often the shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to
pass those modules and work experience elsewhere where the relevant
competencies can be assessed and addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way to
become a licenced mechanic.
No, that is *your* take on it. I was referring to *Clocky's*
experience. We have discussed this before and I have often mentioned
*assessment* as a means of recognising ones trade skills if not
attained in an apprenticeship.
<irrelevant crap snipped>
Nothing of the sort, you stated
"The licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed
an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is
the *skills evaluation*. "
The licence is proof you have completed an apprenticeship - to any reasonable person that implies that the licence is dependent on the apprenticeship.
On 28/09/2026 9:49 am, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 8:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 7:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life >>>>>> then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and
would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them >>>>>> to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive
mechanical apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been >>>>> working as a T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period of
time. Often the shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to
pass those modules and work experience elsewhere where the relevant >>>>> competencies can be assessed and addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way to
become a licenced mechanic.
As usual, the mental case is completely full of shit.
As usual, Keith read my words wrong and forgot what I have stated
several times in the past.>
Of course it couldn't have been that what you wrotr was wrong or
completely ambiguous of course.
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive
mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is
"All Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on FWD >>>>> cars or are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately diagnose a >>>>> simple fault and resort to shotgunning as their only means of
diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning
to me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar
parts to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not
optimal, is useful, and sometimes necessary.
It's also a procedure that is recommended by many factory repair
manuals. Something our Western Australian munt would actually know if
he spent time working as a mechanic rather than an accessory fitter :)
On 28/9/2026 2:24 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:49 am, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 8:40 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 7:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating withSo there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in
life then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s >>>>>>> and would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for >>>>>>> them to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive
mechanical apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have
been working as a T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period >>>>>> of time. Often the shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE
to pass those modules and work experience elsewhere where the
relevant competencies can be assessed and addressed where required. >>>>>
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way
to become a licenced mechanic.
As usual, the mental case is completely full of shit.
As usual, Keith read my words wrong and forgot what I have stated
several times in the past.>
Of course it couldn't have been that what you wrotr was wrong or
completely ambiguous of course.
Nope, I wasn't wrong, I wasn't ambiguous.>
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive
mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is
"All Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on
FWD cars or are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately
diagnose a simple fault and resort to shotgunning as their only
means of diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning
to me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar >>>>> parts to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not
optimal, is useful, and sometimes necessary.
It's also a procedure that is recommended by many factory repair
manuals. Something our Western Australian munt would actually know
if he spent time working as a mechanic rather than an accessory
fitter :)
On 25/09/2026 11:25 am, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:55 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response. >>>>>>>>
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information
about anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made
have been to boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows
that you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes
back at you
Nope. Wrong again Retcho. I was taking the piss.
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho... >>>>>> Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim
you got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally
dishonest dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone >>>>>> again how much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same,
Annndd there goes his left foot. I posted that pic because another
DATE member ('Derwyn", or something like that) said that I didn't
actually own one.
Yearh right.
oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes, look here's a picture of
them both together" isn't boasting?
See above. Hilariously, 'Derwyn" repeatedly expresses doubts about
my news and the only way to stop him is to errrr provide proof. (Big
sledge there DATErs)
Yearh right.
What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and
banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look
and see that I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
You lot are so block-headed that you refuse to learn. Ok Retcho,
cite where I said that.
You complained that after it was fixed after breaking down at the
Caboolture service area, you were pissed off that it no longer made
popping and banging noises on the overrun. (They are probably
artificial anyway)
What a little hypocrite you are boy.
Well according to you, but bizzarely, that doesn't worry me.
Woopydoo.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
lol!
"upset me"? Why would I get "upset" by a clown who has to invent
quotes to try and make a point?
Yearh right.
You been looking afer the grandies again Retcho?
I think they are looking after him at this point.
On 28/9/2026 2:05 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 8:55 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 7:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim >>>>>>>>>> his car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are >>>>>>>>> indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You, >>>>>>>>> unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you
cannot use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be >>>>>>>> powerful enough to push a needle through car seat material",
then yes. I provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are
uneducable and we have seen the result of that - and none of it >>>>>>>>> good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills
evaluation test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to >>>>>>>> be an automotive expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of >>>>>>>> *very* basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed >>>>>>> an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship*
itself is the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life >>>>>> then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and
would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them >>>>>> to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive
mechanical apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been >>>>> working as a T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period of
time. Often the shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to
pass those modules and work experience elsewhere where the relevant >>>>> competencies can be assessed and addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way to
become a licenced mechanic.
No, that is *your* take on it. I was referring to *Clocky's*
experience. We have discussed this before and I have often mentioned
*assessment* as a means of recognising ones trade skills if not
attained in an apprenticeship.
<irrelevant crap snipped>
Nothing of the sort, you stated
"The licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed
an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is
the *skills evaluation*. "
The licence is proof you have completed an apprenticeship - to any
reasonable person that implies that the licence is dependent on the
apprenticeship.
Well, if you haven't done an apprenticeship or equivalent, then you
won't be granted a licence so there a dependency there.
As I said, my friend at VetAssess has been in WA assessing OS trade qualifications against Aust. requirements.
If those people come up to snuff, they are
granted a trade certificate equivalent which also certifies they have
been assessed. They are *then* granted a licence to operate in WA.
If you have an Australian Cert. of Proficiency or a tradesman rights certificate, the issuance of a licence is a formality. It has always
been thus.
In WA, you need to present a trade qualification or equivalent to get
the licence to operate as a mechanic. Once you have that licence, it
becomes the proof you are qualified. All you need carry is your licence.
On 25/09/2026 11:25 am, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:55 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a response. >>>>>>>>
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information
about anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made
have been to boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows
that you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes
back at you
Nope. Wrong again Retcho. I was taking the piss.
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho... >>>>>> Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim
you got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally
dishonest dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell everyone >>>>>> again how much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside
another one just the same,
Annndd there goes his left foot. I posted that pic because another
DATE member ('Derwyn", or something like that) said that I didn't
actually own one.
Yearh right.
oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes, look here's a picture of
them both together" isn't boasting?
See above. Hilariously, 'Derwyn" repeatedly expresses doubts about
my news and the only way to stop him is to errrr provide proof. (Big
sledge there DATErs)
Yearh right.
What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and
banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look
and see that I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
You lot are so block-headed that you refuse to learn. Ok Retcho,
cite where I said that.
You complained that after it was fixed after breaking down at the
Caboolture service area, you were pissed off that it no longer made
popping and banging noises on the overrun. (They are probably
artificial anyway)
What a little hypocrite you are boy.
Well according to you, but bizzarely, that doesn't worry me.
Woopydoo.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
lol!
"upset me"? Why would I get "upset" by a clown who has to invent
quotes to try and make a point?
Yearh right.
You been looking afer the grandies again Retcho?
I think they are looking after him at this point.
Clocky wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:25 am, alvey wrote:snicker
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:55 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 23/09/2026 2:08 pm, alvey wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 9:27 pm, Xeno wrote:
Insightful? Jeezus, alvey has never produced a post with the
On 22/9/2026 8:35 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 22/09/2026 4:54 pm, alvey wrote:
His usual load of crap.
Which you thought sufficiently insightful and worthy of a
response.
slightest insight on anything other than the bodies of 16yo
schoolgirls. He has never once posted any useful information
about anything, and the only posts about cars that he has made >>>>>>>> have been to boast about owning an Audi and a Merc.
Typical DATE incompetence. You forgot my two Bimmers Retcho...
Aah did I upset your enormous ego? That's very sad, it just shows >>>>>> that you can dish it out, but cry like a little girl when it comes >>>>>> back at you
Nope. Wrong again Retcho. I was taking the piss.
Annnddddd I see you're using *another* Fraudster tactic Retcho... >>>>>>> Repeating a lie. Last time you bleated out this "boasting" claim >>>>>>> you got beaten up, and then revealed yourself as a totally
dishonest dickhead by producing some fake quotes! So tell
everyone again how much smarter you are.
So saying "Look I've got an Audi here's a picture of it alongside >>>>>> another one just the same,
Annndd there goes his left foot. I posted that pic because another
DATE member ('Derwyn", or something like that) said that I didn't
actually own one.
Yearh right.
oh I just traded the Audi for a Mercedes, look here's a picture of >>>>>> them both together" isn't boasting?
See above. Hilariously, 'Derwyn" repeatedly expresses doubts about
my news and the only way to stop him is to errrr provide proof.
(Big sledge there DATErs)
Yearh right.
What a
weird set of values you have. "My Mercedes can make popping and
banging noises on the overrun, I like that, it makes people look
and see that I've got a Mercedes" isn't boasting?
You lot are so block-headed that you refuse to learn. Ok Retcho,
cite where I said that.
You complained that after it was fixed after breaking down at the
Caboolture service area, you were pissed off that it no longer made
popping and banging noises on the overrun. (They are probably
artificial anyway)
What a little hypocrite you are boy.
Well according to you, but bizzarely, that doesn't worry me.
Woopydoo.
You really should either stop that or just slip away.
What? because I upset you? ROTFL.
lol!
"upset me"? Why would I get "upset" by a clown who has to invent
quotes to try and make a point?
Yearh right.
You been looking afer the grandies again Retcho?
I think they are looking after him at this point.
On 27/09/2026 8:55 pm, Xeno wrote:
No, that is *your* take on it. I was referring to *Clocky's*
experience. We have discussed this before and I have often mentioned
*assessment* as a means of recognising ones trade skills if not
attained in an apprenticeship.
<irrelevant crap snipped>
Nothing of the sort, you stated
"The licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed
an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is
the *skills evaluation*. "
The licence is proof you have completed an apprenticeship - to any reasonable person that implies that the licence is dependent on the apprenticeship.
On 28/09/2026 2:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
In WA, you need to present a trade qualification or equivalent to getBut not necessarily proof of an apprenticeship.
the licence to operate as a mechanic. Once you have that licence, it
becomes the proof you are qualified. All you need carry is your licence.
When I was an apprentice, the apprenticeship was a private contract
between the employer and the apprentice (or his guardian). There was no registration, and in a lot of cases no theoretical training. At the end there was no certificate as such just your indentures. In the scheme
that I did, there obviously was training and certificates, but they were issued by independent professional bodies (the IEE, and the IMechE).
https://tinyurl.com/2zw97nny
On 28/09/2026 2:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 28/9/2026 2:05 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 8:55 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 7:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim >>>>>>>>>>> his car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are >>>>>>>>>> indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You, >>>>>>>>>> unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you
cannot use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be >>>>>>>>> powerful enough to push a needle through car seat material", >>>>>>>>> then yes. I provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are
uneducable and we have seen the result of that - and none of >>>>>>>>>> it good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills
evaluation test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to >>>>>>>>> be an automotive expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of >>>>>>>>> *very* basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The >>>>>>>> licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have
completed an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the
*apprenticeship* itself is the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in
life then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s >>>>>>> and would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for >>>>>>> them to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive
mechanical apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have
been working as a T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period >>>>>> of time. Often the shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE
to pass those modules and work experience elsewhere where the
relevant competencies can be assessed and addressed where required. >>>>>
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way
to become a licenced mechanic.
No, that is *your* take on it. I was referring to *Clocky's*
experience. We have discussed this before and I have often mentioned
*assessment* as a means of recognising ones trade skills if not
attained in an apprenticeship.
<irrelevant crap snipped>
Nothing of the sort, you stated
"The licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have
completed an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship*
itself is the *skills evaluation*. "
The licence is proof you have completed an apprenticeship - to any
reasonable person that implies that the licence is dependent on the
apprenticeship.
Well, if you haven't done an apprenticeship or equivalent, then you
won't be granted a licence so there a dependency there.
How about a guy who starts with a dealership as a-a monkey, goes to night school of his own volition, and works his way up.
As I said, my friend at VetAssess has been in WA assessing OS trade
qualifications against Aust. requirements.
Surely this only needs to be done once. If the OS qualifications are equivalent or better than the local ones, then anybody holding the OS
quals should automatically be qualified locally.
If those people come up to snuff, they are granted a trade certificate
equivalent which also certifies they have been assessed. They are
*then* granted a licence to operate in WA.
If those people come up to snuff? Surely, if they hold equivalent qualifications, then they would be automatically qualified here
If you have an Australian Cert. of Proficiency or a tradesman rights
certificate, the issuance of a licence is a formality. It has always
been thus.
But an apprenticeship is not necessarily required.
In WA, you need to present a trade qualification or equivalent to getBut not necessarily proof of an apprenticeship.
the licence to operate as a mechanic. Once you have that licence, it
becomes the proof you are qualified. All you need carry is your licence.
When I was an apprentice, the apprenticeship was a private contract
between the employer and the apprentice (or his guardian). There was no registration, and in a lot of cases no theoretical training. At the end
there was no certificate as such just your indentures. In the scheme
that I did, there obviously was training and certificates, but they were issued by independent professional bodies (the IEE, and the IMechE).
On 28/09/2026 2:05 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 8:55 pm, Xeno wrote:
No, that is *your* take on it. I was referring to *Clocky's*
experience. We have discussed this before and I have often mentioned
*assessment* as a means of recognising ones trade skills if not
attained in an apprenticeship.
<irrelevant crap snipped>
Nothing of the sort, you stated
"The licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed
an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is
the *skills evaluation*. "
The licence is proof you have completed an apprenticeship - to any
reasonable person that implies that the licence is dependent on the
apprenticeship.
It does indeed, and it is complete and utter bullshit.
On 28/09/2026 1:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 5:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning to
me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar
parts to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not
optimal, is useful, and sometimes necessary. It has to be done with
care.>
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random
kind in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool
effectively.
There was nothing "random" about what I did, and given the lack of information that was available with which to diagnose an intermittent problem that *wasn't* occurring at the time and the fact that it only
took a few minutes it was the logical thing to do. As it turned out, the problem followed the swap, which identified the culprit perfectly.
You, on the other hand, believe that you could have plugged a scanner in
and recalled a code that had been deleted weeks before, but you've never demonstrated how you would be able to do that given that "permanent"
codes are not permanent as the name implies, and are in fact deleted
after the vehicle has gone through the minimum number of restart cycles without the fault reoccurring.
You've also failed to demonstrate how "long term fuel trims" would tell anyone didly squat about a momentary misfire at start up, when fuel trim data is ignored while the engine is running in cold start open loop mode :)
He even claimed that the GM/Holden Tech 2 is *not* an OBD2 scan tool.
Feel free to check that claim for yourself keith because it just goes
to show how clueless and out of touch he is.
Go on, Google it.
I'll save him the trouble. He can read all about it here if he's
interested enough:
https://tinyurl.com/yacma6xy
Or, if he just wants the brief Google AI description, he can read this:
https://ibb.co/yFsPQHKx
As I said at the time, Tech2 is a GM specific tool, not a generic OBD2
On 28/09/2026 5:53 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 2:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
In WA, you need to present a trade qualification or equivalent to getBut not necessarily proof of an apprenticeship.
the licence to operate as a mechanic. Once you have that licence, it
becomes the proof you are qualified. All you need carry is your licence. >>>
When I was an apprentice, the apprenticeship was a private contract
between the employer and the apprentice (or his guardian). There was
no registration, and in a lot of cases no theoretical training. At the
end there was no certificate as such just your indentures. In the
scheme that I did, there obviously was training and certificates, but
they were issued by independent professional bodies (the IEE, and the
IMechE).
As usual, he makes it up as he goes. He's the dope on what's required to obtain a "repairer's certificate" straight from the WA government's
website.
https://tinyurl.com/2zw97nny
This shit has been spelled out to him a number of times now, yet he
still insists on ignoring reality and going with his own version of events.
The bloke is an absolute nutter :)
On 26/09/2026 1:41 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Send me a photo, and I'll fix it up :)
On 26/09/2026 12:07 pm, Xeno wrote:
Miserable old sod. Obviously you don't have a sense of humour.
On 26/9/2026 11:19 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:14 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 8:15 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 6:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Proof?
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking over the landscape..PPL that *were* in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> favour are now having a rethink... (Alas, a tad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people I see complaining about "AI" taking over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and watching their every move seem to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same people who are happy to walk around with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart phone in their pocket with Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worried about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone that by 2026 we'd be living in a world >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where we all walked around with a mini computer in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet here we are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's all *already* happening, but we don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complain because we don't take any notice. Yet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suddenly because we want to put it all in a big >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit up, I'll worry when I see something worth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years a rogue AI could doing some major damage to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a whole lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be able to work out how to turn those off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>That would depend on whether the owners of such systems >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wished to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROGUE, not the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
I certainly don't have any red high heels..
damn!
:)
Actually there is proof that you do
https://imgur.com/a/CZG0TZR
Obviously fake proof. The laws of physics dictate you can't wear
stiletto heels on a golf course. A practical impossibility.
wish I did look like that, sans the shoes, of course. the reality is
somewhat different
Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 6:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed
an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself
is the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and
would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them
to do that?
Of course there is, but don't run that idea past this dickhead. He'll
claim otherwise and insist that they cannot, but won't ever show you
anything to prove it. Just like when he claimed that there was a
"law" that prevented anyone from doing a second apprenticeship that
was repealed in 1992.
No such law ever existed, as if it did a copy of it would exist in
the statute books. A fact that he conveniently ignores.
Errr... That is exactly what has been pointed out to you hundreds of
times about your claims of business ownership and qualifications. ie.
There is no evidence to support your claims.
Well played Buffo. You've outdone yourself.
Errr... That is exactly what has been pointed out to you hundreds of
times about your claims of business ownership and qualifications. ie.
There is no evidence to support your claims.
A fact that he conveniently ignores.
On 28/09/2026 8:42 pm, Axel wrote:
Errr... That is exactly what has been pointed out to you hundreds of
times about your claims of business ownership and qualifications. ie.
There is no evidence to support your claims.
A fact that he conveniently ignores.
Don't whinge Felix. You had your chance and you squibbed.
On 28/09/2026 8:42 pm, Axel wrote:
Errr... That is exactly what has been pointed out to you hundreds of
times about your claims of business ownership and qualifications.
ie. There is no evidence to support your claims.
A fact that he conveniently ignores.
Don't whinge Felix. You had your chance and you squibbed.
Noddy wrote:
On 28/09/2026 8:42 pm, Axel wrote:
Errr... That is exactly what has been pointed out to you hundreds of
times about your claims of business ownership and qualifications.
ie. There is no evidence to support your claims.
A fact that he conveniently ignores.
Don't whinge Felix. You had your chance and you squibbed.
not whinging. just stating fact. I reiterated what Xeno said. now back
in yer box please
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his car >>>>> using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are
indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You,
unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you cannot use
your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be powerful enough
to push a needle through car seat material", then yes. I provided
nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are uneducable
and we have seen the result of that - and none of it good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills evaluation
test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to be an automotive
expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of *very* basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed an
apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself is the
*skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life then?
If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them to do that?
The kinds of questions that most people with a basic understanding ofLike CVs straighten the steering Darren?
automotive related things would know the answer to easily :)
On 28/09/2026 1:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 5:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning to
me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar
parts to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not
optimal, is useful, and sometimes necessary. It has to be done with
care.>
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random
kind in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool
effectively.
There was nothing "random" about what I did,
On 28/9/2026 8:07 am, Noddy wrote:
On 28/09/2026 1:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 5:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning
to me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar
parts to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not
optimal, is useful, and sometimes necessary. It has to be done with
care.>
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random
kind in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool
effectively.
There was nothing "random" about what I did, and given the lack of
information that was available with which to diagnose an intermittent
problem that *wasn't* occurring at the time and the fact that it only
took a few minutes it was the logical thing to do. As it turned out,
the problem followed the swap, which identified the culprit perfectly.
You, on the other hand, believe that you could have plugged a scanner
in and recalled a code that had been deleted weeks before, but you've
never demonstrated how you would be able to do that given that
"permanent" codes are not permanent as the name implies, and are in
fact deleted after the vehicle has gone through the minimum number of
restart cycles without the fault reoccurring.
You've also failed to demonstrate how "long term fuel trims" would
tell anyone didly squat about a momentary misfire at start up, when
fuel trim data is ignored while the engine is running in cold start
open loop mode :)
He even claimed that the GM/Holden Tech 2 is *not* an OBD2 scan tool.
Feel free to check that claim for yourself keith because it just goes
to show how clueless and out of touch he is.
Go on, Google it.
I'll save him the trouble. He can read all about it here if he's
interested enough:
https://tinyurl.com/yacma6xy
Or, if he just wants the brief Google AI description, he can read this:
https://ibb.co/yFsPQHKx
As I said at the time, Tech2 is a GM specific tool, not a generic OBD2
Yes Darren, it is a GM specific tool and, with the appropriate adaptor,
can connect to and work with GM OBD2 vehicles. Isn't it amazing how GM
can update/upgrade their tools at will.
Keithr0 wrote:
On 26/09/2026 1:41 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Send me a photo, and I'll fix it up :)
On 26/09/2026 12:07 pm, Xeno wrote:
Miserable old sod. Obviously you don't have a sense of humour.
On 26/9/2026 11:19 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:14 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 8:15 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 6:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Proof?
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking over the landscape..PPL that *were* in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> favour are now having a rethink... (Alas, a tad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people I see complaining about "AI" taking over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and watching their every move seem to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same people who are happy to walk around with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart phone in their pocket with Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worried about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone that by 2026 we'd be living in a world >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where we all walked around with a mini computer in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet here we are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's all *already* happening, but we don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complain because we don't take any notice. Yet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suddenly because we want to put it all in a big >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit up, I'll worry when I see something worth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years a rogue AI could doing some major damage to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could wreak >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a whole lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be able to work out how to turn those off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That would depend on whether the owners of such systems >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wished to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROGUE, not the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss?
to match the red high heels?
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
I certainly don't have any red high heels..
damn!
:)
Actually there is proof that you do
https://imgur.com/a/CZG0TZR
Obviously fake proof. The laws of physics dictate you can't wear
stiletto heels on a golf course. A practical impossibility.
wish I did look like that, sans the shoes, of course. the reality is
somewhat different
hey! I found one of you .. https://auslink.info/pics/keefy.png
On 28/09/2026 8:37 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Nice try felix, but no cigar. This is the real picture
On 26/09/2026 1:41 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Send me a photo, and I'll fix it up :)
On 26/09/2026 12:07 pm, Xeno wrote:
Miserable old sod. Obviously you don't have a sense of humour.
On 26/9/2026 11:19 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 11:14 pm, Axel wrote:
On 25/9/26 8:15 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 25/09/2026 6:38 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:Proof?
On 25/09/2026 12:48 pm, Axel wrote:
Xeno wrote:
to match the red high heels?
On 24/9/2026 9:24 pm, Axel wrote:
Keithr0 wrote:
On 24/09/2026 1:39 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daryl wrote
Noddy wrote
jonz wrote
Noddy wrote
Check out *Level five*..Plenty of trouble >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lurking there!.
Plus (especially in the states) Data centres >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking over the landscape..PPL that *were* in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> favour are now having a rethink... (Alas, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tad late) >
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem. Most of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people I see complaining about "AI" taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over and watching their every move seem to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same people who are happy to walk around >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a smart phone in their pocket with Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listening in 24/7....
Have a closer look!!.
Yeah, I did, and I'm not seeing anything to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worried about.
-aMe neither
Here's a funny thing. 30 years ago if you told >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone that by 2026 we'd be living in a world >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where we all walked around with a mini computer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in our pockets that tracked our every move and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listened in on our conversations they would have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought you were bat shit crazy. Yet here we are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all rocking that shit and no one blinks an eye. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Same deal if you said we'd see electric cars, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driverless taxis and cars, cashless society, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digital drivers licenses, "Mygov" accounts where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything you do is recorded, yada yada yada. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It's all *already* happening, but we don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complain because we don't take any notice. Yet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suddenly because we want to put it all in a big >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building it's a problem.
Knowing full well that the media likes to talk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit up, I'll worry when I see something worth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worrying about.
My son believes that its possible that within 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years a rogue AI could doing some major damage to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world
-aHow is he suggesting that that might happen ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rouge "AIs" in the world financial system could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wreak a whole lot of havoc.
-aNope, because if they start doing that, even you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be able to work out how to turn those off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That would depend on whether the owners of such >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems wished to turn them off.
I was talking about turning off the AI WHICH HAS GONE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ROGUE, not the phone
So was I, the owners may want it rouge,
they want a red coloured AI?
I thought he was talking about his makeup. Lip gloss? >>>>>>>>>>>>
You obviously have nothing much in your life.
I certainly don't have any red high heels..
damn!
:)
Actually there is proof that you do
https://imgur.com/a/CZG0TZR
Obviously fake proof. The laws of physics dictate you can't wear
stiletto heels on a golf course. A practical impossibility.
wish I did look like that, sans the shoes, of course. the reality
is somewhat different
hey! I found one of you .. https://auslink.info/pics/keefy.png
https://imgur.com/a/KXEPYci
On 28/9/2026 7:52 pm, Noddy wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 28/09/2026 5:53 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 2:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
In WA, you need to present a trade qualification or equivalent toBut not necessarily proof of an apprenticeship.
get the licence to operate as a mechanic. Once you have that
licence, it becomes the proof you are qualified. All you need carry
is your licence.
When I was an apprentice, the apprenticeship was a private contract
between the employer and the apprentice (or his guardian). There was
no registration, and in a lot of cases no theoretical training. At
the end there was no certificate as such just your indentures. In the
scheme that I did, there obviously was training and certificates, but
they were issued by independent professional bodies (the IEE, and the
IMechE).
As usual, he makes it up as he goes. He's the dope on what's required
to obtain a "repairer's certificate" straight from the WA government's
website.
https://tinyurl.com/2zw97nny
Qualifying for a motor vehicle repairer's certificate
How to qualify to be a motor vehicle repairer.
Western Australian qualifications
Option 1: Formal qualification and training
Complete a relevant apprenticeship or other relevant training through a Registered Training Organisation (RTO).
Note: Course and certificate names change over time. If your
qualification replaced one listed in the Regulations, it can still be accepted.
Lost your WA trade certificate?
Option 2: Third Party Skills Assessment/Certification test
If you do not hold a prescribed qualification for a particular class of repair work you can complete a third party skills assessment. The tests
can be conducted by the following organisations. Please contact them for
the costs of the assessment.
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a ------------------------
Thank you for proving my point. The above is what I have been saying all along. My mate has spent a lot of time in WA doing just the above assessments.
Now, if you had wanted to transfer from your *mythical* AME
apprenticeship, you too would have had to undergone an assessment
process. BUT, apart from your AME apprenticeship being one of your delusions, you simply cannot transfer *any* apprenticeship across two
such disparate fields. It also gets more difficult if said
apprenticeship is cancelled. Remember, you clearly stated your AME apprenticeship was cancelled. Whoops! You got caught up in the web of
your own lies Darren. Cease saying you transferred your AME
apprenticeship to Automotive - it just doesn't happen in the real world
I live in.
This shit has been spelled out to him a number of times now, yet he
still insists on ignoring reality and going with his own version of
events.
The bloke is an absolute nutter :)
On 28/09/2026 8:42 pm, Axel wrote:
Errr... That is exactly what has been pointed out to you hundreds of
times about your claims of business ownership and qualifications. ie.
There is no evidence to support your claims.
A fact that he conveniently ignores.
Don't whinge Felix. You had your chance and you squibbed.
On 28/09/2026 10:43 pm, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 28/09/2026 8:42 pm, Axel wrote:
Errr... That is exactly what has been pointed out to you hundreds
of times about your claims of business ownership and
qualifications. ie. There is no evidence to support your claims.
A fact that he conveniently ignores.
Don't whinge Felix. You had your chance and you squibbed.
not whinging. just stating fact. I reiterated what Xeno said. now back
in yer box please
Once again you demonstrate that you wouldn't know what a "fact" was if someone set fire to one and shoved it up your Alzheimer's affected arse.
On 28/09/2026 6:07 am, Noddy wrote:
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random
kind in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool
effectively.
There was nothing "random" about what I did,
It was in the context of you having an OBD2 compliant scan tool, like
Tech2 is, at hand.
You obviously lack any understanding of modern EFI
systems and how to use the actual tool you own - and that's the case
with all the scan tools you have sitting in their original packaging
that you have bought over the years.-a You're the poster child for "All
the gear, no idea."
Sit down boy, I'm feeling second-hand embarrassment for you and you will never ever even understand why. You're incapable of it.
On 29/09/2026 7:54 am, Clocky wrote:
On 28/09/2026 6:07 am, Noddy wrote:
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random
kind in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool
effectively.
There was nothing "random" about what I did,
It was in the context of you having an OBD2 compliant scan tool, like
Tech2 is, at hand.
I don't have a Tech2 scan tool, and never said that I do. This is your invention, and as it turns out a completely irrelevant one....
On 29/09/2026 7:54 am, Clocky wrote:
On 28/09/2026 6:07 am, Noddy wrote:
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random
kind in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool
effectively.
There was nothing "random" about what I did,
It was in the context of you having an OBD2 compliant scan tool, like
Tech2 is, at hand.
I don't have a Tech2 scan tool, and never said that I do. This is your
invention, and as it turns out a completely irrelevant one....
You obviously lack any understanding of modern EFI systems and how to
use the actual tool you own - and that's the case with all the scan
tools you have sitting in their original packaging that you have
bought over the years.-a You're the poster child for "All the gear, no
idea."
Comedy gold from the moron who's education on OBD2 systems evolved right
in front of everyone's eyes as the conversation progressed. I imagine
smoke was coming out the back of your PC at the time you were pushing
Google that hard :)
Sit down boy, I'm feeling second-hand embarrassment for you and you
will never ever even understand why. You're incapable of it.
It has long been establish that for all the crowing you do about your credentials, you have no idea about.... well, anything really.
Stick to screwing on mudflaps. Hopefully you're good at that as you sure--
as shit suck at anything complicated.
On 28/09/2026 6:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
Nobody ever said it wasn't GM specific, but he's the one who said it *wasn't* OBD2 compliant.
Notice his pathetic attempt at slight of hand?
On 29/09/2026 8:00 am, Clocky wrote:
On 28/09/2026 6:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
Nobody ever said it wasn't GM specific, but he's the one who said it
*wasn't* OBD2 compliant.
Notice his pathetic attempt at slight of hand?
Notice how you've never *once* demonstrated how a fault code that was
erased weeks earlier could be recalled?
On 29/09/2026 8:00 am, Clocky wrote:
On 28/09/2026 6:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
Nobody ever said it wasn't GM specific, but he's the one who said it
*wasn't* OBD2 compliant.
Notice his pathetic attempt at slight of hand?
Notice how you've never *once* demonstrated how a fault code that was
erased weeks earlier could be recalled?
:)
Noddy wrote:
On 29/09/2026 8:00 am, Clocky wrote:
On 28/09/2026 6:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
Nobody ever said it wasn't GM specific, but he's the one who said it
*wasn't* OBD2 compliant.
Notice his pathetic attempt at slight of hand?
Notice how you've never *once* demonstrated how a fault code that was
erased weeks earlier could be recalled?
You've done it again Buffo!!
Let's do the 'Gotcha' response to your sentence...
"Notice how you've never *once* demonstrated..." any proof at al of your chest-puffing claims...
Well played.
On 29/9/2026 8:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 29/09/2026 8:00 am, Clocky wrote:Darren, it's a story you extracted from your delusions.
On 28/09/2026 6:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
Nobody ever said it wasn't GM specific, but he's the one who said it
*wasn't* OBD2 compliant.
Notice his pathetic attempt at slight of hand?
Notice how you've never *once* demonstrated how a fault code that was
erased weeks earlier could be recalled?
:)
On 29/9/2026 8:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 29/09/2026 8:00 am, Clocky wrote:Darren, it's a story you extracted from your delusions.
On 28/09/2026 6:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
Nobody ever said it wasn't GM specific, but he's the one who said it
*wasn't* OBD2 compliant.
Notice his pathetic attempt at slight of hand?
Notice how you've never *once* demonstrated how a fault code that was
erased weeks earlier could be recalled?
:)
On 29/09/2026 8:00 am, Clocky wrote:
On 28/09/2026 6:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
Nobody ever said it wasn't GM specific, but he's the one who said it
*wasn't* OBD2 compliant.
Notice his pathetic attempt at slight of hand?
Notice how you've never *once* demonstrated how a fault code that was
erased weeks earlier could be recalled?
On 29/9/2026 8:31 pm, alvey wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 29/09/2026 8:00 am, Clocky wrote:
On 28/09/2026 6:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
Nobody ever said it wasn't GM specific, but he's the one who said it
*wasn't* OBD2 compliant.
Notice his pathetic attempt at slight of hand?
Notice how you've never *once* demonstrated how a fault code that was
erased weeks earlier could be recalled?
You've done it again Buffo!!
Let's do the 'Gotcha' response to your sentence...
"Notice how you've never *once* demonstrated..." any proof at al of
your chest-puffing claims...
And, *IF* he had the proof, you just know he'd love to display it here! That's just logical - and something the fraud cannot comprehend.>
On 28/9/2026 1:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 5:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred dollars.
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his >>>>>>>>> car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are >>>>>>>> indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You,
unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you cannot >>>>>>> use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be powerful >>>>>>> enough to push a needle through car seat material", then yes. I >>>>>>> provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are
uneducable and we have seen the result of that - and none of it >>>>>>>> good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills
evaluation test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to be >>>>>>> an automotive expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of
*very* basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed >>>>>> an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself >>>>>> is the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and
would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them
to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive
mechanical apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been
working as a T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period of
time. Often the shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to
pass those modules and work experience elsewhere where the relevant
competencies can be assessed and addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way to
become a licenced mechanic.
Well that isn't correct.
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive
mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is "All
Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on FWD cars
or are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately diagnose a
simple fault and resort to shotgunning as their only means of
diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning to
me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar
parts to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not
optimal, is useful, and sometimes necessary. It has to be done with
care.>
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random
kind in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool
effectively.
He even claimed that the GM/Holden Tech 2 is *not* an OBD2 scan tool.
Feel free to check that claim for yourself keith because it just goes
to show how clueless and out of touch he is.
Go on, Google it.
Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
On 28/9/2026 1:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 5:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred dollars.
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim his >>>>>>>>> car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are >>>>>>>> indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You,
unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you cannot >>>>>>> use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be powerful >>>>>>> enough to push a needle through car seat material", then yes. I >>>>>>> provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are
uneducable and we have seen the result of that - and none of it >>>>>>>> good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills
evaluation test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to be >>>>>>> an automotive expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of
*very* basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed >>>>>> an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship* itself >>>>>> is the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life
then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and
would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them
to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive
mechanical apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been
working as a T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period of
time. Often the shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to
pass those modules and work experience elsewhere where the relevant
competencies can be assessed and addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way to
become a licenced mechanic.
Well that isn't correct.
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive
mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is "All
Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on FWD cars
or are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately diagnose a
simple fault and resort to shotgunning as their only means of
diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning to
me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar
parts to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not
optimal, is useful, and sometimes necessary. It has to be done with
care.>
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random
kind in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool
effectively.
He even claimed that the GM/Holden Tech 2 is *not* an OBD2 scan tool.
Feel free to check that claim for yourself keith because it just goes
to show how clueless and out of touch he is.
Go on, Google it.
Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
That's simply because there are only a few PIDs defined in the OBD2 specification most of the others are specific to manufacturers, the
On 28/9/2026 1:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 5:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim >>>>>>>>>> his car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are >>>>>>>>> indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You, >>>>>>>>> unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you
cannot use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be >>>>>>>> powerful enough to push a needle through car seat material",
then yes. I provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are
uneducable and we have seen the result of that - and none of it >>>>>>>>> good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills
evaluation test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to >>>>>>>> be an automotive expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of >>>>>>>> *very* basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The
licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have completed >>>>>>> an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the *apprenticeship*
itself is the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in life >>>>>> then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s and
would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for them >>>>>> to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive
mechanical apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have been >>>>> working as a T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period of
time. Often the shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE to
pass those modules and work experience elsewhere where the relevant >>>>> competencies can be assessed and addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way to
become a licenced mechanic.
Well that isn't correct.
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive
mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is
"All Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on FWD >>>>> cars or are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately diagnose a >>>>> simple fault and resort to shotgunning as their only means of
diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning
to me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar
parts to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not
optimal, is useful, and sometimes necessary. It has to be done with
care.>
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random
kind in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool
effectively.
He even claimed that the GM/Holden Tech 2 is *not* an OBD2 scan tool.
Feel free to check that claim for yourself keith because it just goes
to show how clueless and out of touch he is.
Go on, Google it.
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
Tech2 is useless on any non GM vehicles.
On 29/9/2026 10:08 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
That's simply because there are only a few PIDs defined in the OBD2
On 28/9/2026 1:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 5:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim >>>>>>>>>>> his car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you are >>>>>>>>>> indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You, >>>>>>>>>> unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you
cannot use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be >>>>>>>>> powerful enough to push a needle through car seat material", >>>>>>>>> then yes. I provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are
uneducable and we have seen the result of that - and none of >>>>>>>>>> it good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills
evaluation test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to >>>>>>>>> be an automotive expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of >>>>>>>>> *very* basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The >>>>>>>> licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have
completed an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the
*apprenticeship* itself is the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in
life then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s >>>>>>> and would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way for >>>>>>> them to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive
mechanical apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have
been working as a T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period >>>>>> of time. Often the shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE
to pass those modules and work experience elsewhere where the
relevant competencies can be assessed and addressed where required. >>>>>
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way
to become a licenced mechanic.
Well that isn't correct.
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive
mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is
"All Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on
FWD cars or are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately
diagnose a simple fault and resort to shotgunning as their only
means of diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning
to me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar >>>>> parts to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not
optimal, is useful, and sometimes necessary. It has to be done with >>>>> care.>
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random
kind in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool
effectively.
He even claimed that the GM/Holden Tech 2 is *not* an OBD2 scan
tool. Feel free to check that claim for yourself keith because it
just goes to show how clueless and out of touch he is.
Go on, Google it.
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
specification most of the others are specific to manufacturers, the
Tech2 is useless on any non GM vehicles.
The original reference *was* a GM Vehicle.
On 29/09/2026 10:14 pm, Xeno wrote:
If it was made after 2013, you don't need a Tech2, you need an MDI2
On 29/9/2026 10:08 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
That's simply because there are only a few PIDs defined in the OBD2
On 28/9/2026 1:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 5:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim >>>>>>>>>>>> his car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you >>>>>>>>>>> are indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You, >>>>>>>>>>> unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you >>>>>>>>>> cannot use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not be >>>>>>>>>> powerful enough to push a needle through car seat material", >>>>>>>>>> then yes. I provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are
uneducable and we have seen the result of that - and none of >>>>>>>>>>> it good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills
evaluation test to obtain a "License" and considers himself to >>>>>>>>>> be an automotive expert, you sure as shit need to ask a lot of >>>>>>>>>> *very* basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The >>>>>>>>> licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have
completed an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the
*apprenticeship* itself is the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in >>>>>>>> life then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late 20s >>>>>>>> and would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no way >>>>>>>> for them to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive
mechanical apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have
been working as a T/ A under an mechanic for a significant period >>>>>>> of time. Often the shortfalls can be completed by attending TAFE >>>>>>> to pass those modules and work experience elsewhere where the
relevant competencies can be assessed and addressed where required. >>>>>>
emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way >>>>>> to become a licenced mechanic.
Well that isn't correct.
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive >>>>>>> mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is >>>>>>> "All Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on >>>>>>> FWD cars or are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately
diagnose a simple fault and resort to shotgunning as their only >>>>>>> means of diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning >>>>>> to me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping
similar parts to see if the problem moves. That is a technique,
while not optimal, is useful, and sometimes necessary. It has to
be done with care.>
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random
kind in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool
effectively.
He even claimed that the GM/Holden Tech 2 is *not* an OBD2 scan
tool. Feel free to check that claim for yourself keith because it
just goes to show how clueless and out of touch he is.
Go on, Google it.
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
specification most of the others are specific to manufacturers, the
Tech2 is useless on any non GM vehicles.
The original reference *was* a GM Vehicle.
anyway. Try and keep up.
On 29/09/2026 6:15 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 29/09/2026 8:00 am, Clocky wrote:
On 28/09/2026 6:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
Nobody ever said it wasn't GM specific, but he's the one who said it
*wasn't* OBD2 compliant.
Notice his pathetic attempt at slight of hand?
Notice how you've never *once* demonstrated how a fault code that was
erased weeks earlier could be recalled?
Notice how your story was exposed as a complete fabrication dreamed up
by a fantasist who has absolutely no idea about diagnosing modern OBD2 systems and thought he could get his bullshit past mechanics?
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more thanThat's simply because there are only a few PIDs defined in the OBD2 specification most of the others are specific to manufacturers, the
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
Tech2 is useless on any non GM vehicles.
On 28/09/2026 7:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
He has no idea and he's never had any idea and will never have any idea.
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred dollars.
Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
On 29/09/2026 10:08 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more thanThat's simply because there are only a few PIDs defined in the OBD2
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
specification most of the others are specific to manufacturers, the
Tech2 is useless on any non GM vehicles.
Indeed it is.
On 28/09/2026 6:07 am, Noddy wrote:
On 28/09/2026 1:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 5:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine. Shotgunning
to me is just the random replacement of parts, not swapping similar
parts to see if the problem moves. That is a technique, while not
optimal, is useful, and sometimes necessary. It has to be done with
care.>
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random
kind in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool
effectively.
There was nothing "random" about what I did,
It was in the context of you having an OBD2 compliant scan tool, like
Tech2 is, at hand. You obviously lack any understanding of modern EFI systems and how to use the actual tool you own - and that's the case
with all the scan tools you have sitting in their original packaging
that you have bought over the years.-a You're the poster child for "All
the gear, no idea."
Sit down boy, I'm feeling second-hand embarrassment for you and you will never ever even understand why. You're incapable of it.
On 30/9/2026 8:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-for-
holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw-
dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
If the software is genuine, then that's Ok for Holdens. In case you
hadn't noticed, they don't make them any more.
mechanic needs one to do all makes. That's where the cost *and* the subscription comes in. What's more, in order to work effectively, said
shade tree mechanic would also need subscriptions to workshop manuals, either as a general subscription or on a car by car basis.
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-for- holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw- dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
On 30/9/2026 8:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-for-
holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw-
dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
I very rarely work on Holdens but not that long ago I was asked to find
out why the check engine light was always on a friends VE, my Autel
MK906BT which cost a hell of a lot more than a "couple of hundred
dollars" was able to tell me that it had the dreaded cam chain stretch, there was nothing special about that scan that a cheaper tool couldn't do.
On 30/09/2026 9:27 am, Xeno wrote:
On 30/9/2026 8:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-for-
holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw-
dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
If the software is genuine, then that's Ok for Holdens. In case you
hadn't noticed, they don't make them any more.
Don't be such a supercilious arsehole. They may not make them anymore,
but there are still lots of them around, and Holden dealerships are long gone. Anyway it was you and clocky pushing it as the be all and end all.
The average shade tree
mechanic needs one to do all makes. That's where the cost *and* the
subscription comes in. What's more, in order to work effectively, said
shade tree mechanic would also need subscriptions to workshop manuals,
either as a general subscription or on a car by car basis.
On 30/09/2026 8:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-for-
holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw-
dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
Lol :)
And it's most likely a clone :)
On 30/09/2026 9:36 am, Daryl wrote:
On 30/9/2026 8:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-for-
holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw-
dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
I very rarely work on Holdens but not that long ago I was asked to
find out why the check engine light was always on a friends VE, my
Autel MK906BT which cost a hell of a lot more than a "couple of
hundred dollars" was able to tell me that it had the dreaded cam chain
stretch, there was nothing special about that scan that a cheaper tool
couldn't do.
Which is usually the case.
On 30/09/2026 9:36 am, Daryl wrote:The mismatch between the crank angle and cam angle sensors, once they
On 30/9/2026 8:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-for-
holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw-
dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
I very rarely work on Holdens but not that long ago I was asked to
find out why the check engine light was always on a friends VE, my
Autel MK906BT which cost a hell of a lot more than a "couple of
hundred dollars" was able to tell me that it had the dreaded cam chain
stretch, there was nothing special about that scan that a cheaper tool
couldn't do.
Which is usually the case.
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-for- holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw- dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
On 30/9/2026 10:48 am, Noddy wrote:
On 30/09/2026 9:36 am, Daryl wrote:True, even the most basic scan tools are good enough for engine fault
On 30/9/2026 8:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than >>>>> the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities,
you're looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees. >>>>>
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-for-
holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw-
dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
I very rarely work on Holdens but not that long ago I was asked to
find out why the check engine light was always on a friends VE, my
Autel MK906BT which cost a hell of a lot more than a "couple of
hundred dollars" was able to tell me that it had the dreaded cam
chain stretch, there was nothing special about that scan that a
cheaper tool couldn't do.
Which is usually the case.
codes and basic diagnosis.
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-for- holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw- dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
On 29/9/2026 10:20 pm, Keithr0 wrote:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 29/09/2026 10:14 pm, Xeno wrote:
If it was made after 2013, you don't need a Tech2, you need an MDI2
On 29/9/2026 10:08 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
That's simply because there are only a few PIDs defined in the OBD2
On 28/9/2026 1:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 5:13 pm, Keithr0 wrote:And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than >>>>> the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
On 27/09/2026 6:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 27/09/2026 4:06 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
On 27/09/2026 2:58 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 27/9/2026 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 27/09/2026 11:13 am, Clocky wrote:
On 23/09/2026 9:25 pm, Noddy wrote:
On 23/09/2026 11:05 pm, Clocky wrote:
He's a full blown retard.
Comedy gold from the moron who once thought he could retrim >>>>>>>>>>>>> his car using his wife's sewing machine :)
That's less of a defense and more of an admission that you >>>>>>>>>>>> are indeed a full blown retard.
ROTFL :)
I'm not the one who needed to ask :)
I asked a question and I got plenty of useful answers. You, >>>>>>>>>>>> unsurprisingly, provided nothing of value.
If by "nothing of value" you mean I told you that "No, you >>>>>>>>>>> cannot use your wife's Janome sewing machine as it will not >>>>>>>>>>> be powerful enough to push a needle through car seat
material", then yes. I provided nothing of value.
Asking questions is how we learn and progress. You are >>>>>>>>>>>> uneducable and we have seen the result of that - and none of >>>>>>>>>>>> it good.
For a guy who claims to have had to pass a strict skills >>>>>>>>>>> evaluation test to obtain a "License" and considers himself >>>>>>>>>>> to be an automotive expert, you sure as shit need to ask a >>>>>>>>>>> lot of *very* basic questions.
You really have no clue how trade licencing works, do you? The >>>>>>>>>> licence, in automotive in NSW and WA, is proof you have
completed an apprenticeship. The *completion* of the
*apprenticeship* itself is the *skills evaluation*.-a >
So there is no way for somebody to become a mechanic later in >>>>>>>>> life then? If, say, somebody leaves the forces in their late >>>>>>>>> 20s and would like to become a licenced mechanic, there is no >>>>>>>>> way for them to do that?
Of course there is. They can either complete an automotive
mechanical apprenticeship or they can be assessed if they have >>>>>>>> been working as a T/ A under an mechanic for a significant
period of time. Often the shortfalls can be completed by
attending TAFE to pass those modules and work experience
elsewhere where the relevant competencies can be assessed and >>>>>>>> addressed where required.
That is what I would have assumed, however xeno was stating with >>>>>>> emphasis that the completion of an apprenticeship is the ONLY way >>>>>>> to become a licenced mechanic.
Well that isn't correct.
What we can't have is shonks simply pretending to be automotive >>>>>>>> mechanics, you know such foole that bray that their own Jeep is >>>>>>>> "All Imperial", balls in the CV joint straightens the wheels on >>>>>>>> FWD cars or are incapable of using a scan tool to accurately
diagnose a simple fault and resort to shotgunning as their only >>>>>>>> means of diagnosis!
Maybe the terminology in your world differs from mine.
Shotgunning to me is just the random replacement of parts, not
swapping similar parts to see if the problem moves. That is a
technique, while not optimal, is useful, and sometimes necessary. >>>>>>> It has to be done with care.>
Correct, but your old mate the Merrimu Madman practices the random >>>>>> kind in hope and he proved he is incapable of using a scan tool
effectively.
He even claimed that the GM/Holden Tech 2 is *not* an OBD2 scan
tool. Feel free to check that claim for yourself keith because it >>>>>> just goes to show how clueless and out of touch he is.
Go on, Google it.
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities,
you're looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees. >>>>>
specification most of the others are specific to manufacturers, the
Tech2 is useless on any non GM vehicles.
The original reference *was* a GM Vehicle.
anyway. Try and keep up.
Up to, IIRC, 2017. The problem was with the faster Canbus.
On 30/9/2026 12:15 am, Noddy wrote:
On 29/09/2026 10:08 pm, Keithr0 wrote:The Tech II is *from GM* and intended only to be used with *GM
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more thanThat's simply because there are only a few PIDs defined in the OBD2
the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities, you're
looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees.
specification most of the others are specific to manufacturers, the
Tech2 is useless on any non GM vehicles.
Indeed it is.
Vehicles*. I am sure GM doesn't give a shit if Ford users cannot use a
Tech II. Anyway, Ford has their own as does Chrysler. BTW, the OBD2 compliant variants of the Tech II, with appropriate adaptors and
software updates, should be able to identify faults on some non GM
vehicles - Suzuki, Opel and Isuzu, possibly Saab, since these are GM affiliated brands. Note, it will not do a diagnosis on vehicles with proprietary comms interfaces.
Bottom line, GM Tech II is a proprietary diagnostic tool for GM and affiliated vehicles and is not designed to be universal - end of story.
On 30/9/2026 10:48 am, Noddy wrote:
On 30/09/2026 9:36 am, Daryl wrote:The mismatch between the crank angle and cam angle sensors, once they
On 30/9/2026 8:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than >>>>> the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundred
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities,
you're looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees. >>>>>
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-for-
holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw-
dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
I very rarely work on Holdens but not that long ago I was asked to
find out why the check engine light was always on a friends VE, my
Autel MK906BT which cost a hell of a lot more than a "couple of
hundred dollars" was able to tell me that it had the dreaded cam
chain stretch, there was nothing special about that scan that a
cheaper tool couldn't do.
Which is usually the case.
are beyond bounds, will set a code. There is nothing complex or
mysterious or secretive about that Darren.
On 30-Sep-26 9:20 AM, Xeno wrote:
On 30/9/2026 12:15 am, Noddy wrote:
On 29/09/2026 10:08 pm, Keithr0 wrote:The Tech II is *from GM* and intended only to be used with *GM
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more than >>>>> the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of hundredThat's simply because there are only a few PIDs defined in the OBD2
dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's capabilities,
you're looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual subscription fees. >>>>>
specification most of the others are specific to manufacturers, the
Tech2 is useless on any non GM vehicles.
Indeed it is.
Vehicles*. I am sure GM doesn't give a shit if Ford users cannot use a
Tech II. Anyway, Ford has their own as does Chrysler. BTW, the OBD2
compliant variants of the Tech II, with appropriate adaptors and
software updates, should be able to identify faults on some non GM
vehicles - Suzuki, Opel and Isuzu, possibly Saab, since these are GM
affiliated brands. Note, it will not do a diagnosis on vehicles with
proprietary comms interfaces.
Bottom line, GM Tech II is a proprietary diagnostic tool for GM and
affiliated vehicles and is not designed to be universal - end of story.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-aSo fuckin' *what?* Never *was* part of this pitiful *race to the
bottom* All *you* are good for is *muddying the waters* xenokryp.>
On 30-Sep-26 11:32 AM, Xeno wrote:
The mismatch between the crank angle and cam angle sensors, once they
are beyond bounds, will set a code. There is nothing complex or
mysterious or secretive about that Darren.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-aAND?, stick to the subject you (and the others) are evading..
On 30-Sep-26 11:32 AM, Xeno wrote:
On 30/9/2026 10:48 am, Noddy wrote:
On 30/09/2026 9:36 am, Daryl wrote:The mismatch between the crank angle and cam angle sensors, once they
On 30/9/2026 8:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more
than the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of
hundred dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's
capabilities, you're looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual >>>>>> subscription fees.
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-for- >>>>> holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw-
dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
I very rarely work on Holdens but not that long ago I was asked to
find out why the check engine light was always on a friends VE, my
Autel MK906BT which cost a hell of a lot more than a "couple of
hundred dollars" was able to tell me that it had the dreaded cam
chain stretch, there was nothing special about that scan that a
cheaper tool couldn't do.
Which is usually the case.
are beyond bounds, will set a code. There is nothing complex or
mysterious or secretive about that Darren.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-aAND?, stick to the subject you (and the others) are evading..
On 30/09/2026 3:40 pm, jonz wrote:
On 30-Sep-26 9:20 AM, Xeno wrote:
On 30/9/2026 12:15 am, Noddy wrote:
On 29/09/2026 10:08 pm, Keithr0 wrote:The Tech II is *from GM* and intended only to be used with *GM
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way moreThat's simply because there are only a few PIDs defined in the OBD2 >>>>> specification most of the others are specific to manufacturers, the >>>>> Tech2 is useless on any non GM vehicles.
than the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of
hundred dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's
capabilities, you're looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual >>>>>> subscription fees.
Indeed it is.
Vehicles*. I am sure GM doesn't give a shit if Ford users cannot use
a Tech II. Anyway, Ford has their own as does Chrysler. BTW, the OBD2
compliant variants of the Tech II, with appropriate adaptors and
software updates, should be able to identify faults on some non GM
vehicles - Suzuki, Opel and Isuzu, possibly Saab, since these are GM
affiliated brands. Note, it will not do a diagnosis on vehicles with
proprietary comms interfaces.
Bottom line, GM Tech II is a proprietary diagnostic tool for GM and
affiliated vehicles and is not designed to be universal - end of story.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-aSo fuckin' *what?* Never *was* part of this pitiful *race to the
bottom* All *you* are good for is *muddying the waters* xenokryp.>
Exactly. All talk of "Tech2" is nothing other than a focus shift to move attention away from the fact that when it comes to OBD2 these two
muppets have no idea what they're talking about.
On 30/9/2026 5:46 pm, jonz wrote:
On 30-Sep-26 11:32 AM, Xeno wrote:He actually agreed with what Noddy and I said, wonders will never cease.
On 30/9/2026 10:48 am, Noddy wrote:
On 30/09/2026 9:36 am, Daryl wrote:The mismatch between the crank angle and cam angle sensors, once they
On 30/9/2026 8:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more
than the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of
hundred dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's
capabilities, you're looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual >>>>>>> subscription fees.
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-for- holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw- dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
I very rarely work on Holdens but not that long ago I was asked to
find out why the check engine light was always on a friends VE, my
Autel MK906BT which cost a hell of a lot more than a "couple of
hundred dollars" was able to tell me that it had the dreaded cam
chain stretch, there was nothing special about that scan that a
cheaper tool couldn't do.
Which is usually the case.
are beyond bounds, will set a code. There is nothing complex or
mysterious or secretive about that Darren.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-aAND?, stick to the subject you (and the others) are evading..
On 30/09/2026 5:46 pm, jonz wrote:
On 30-Sep-26 11:32 AM, Xeno wrote:
The mismatch between the crank angle and cam angle sensors, once they
are beyond bounds, will set a code. There is nothing complex or
mysterious or secretive about that Darren.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-aAND?, stick to the subject you (and the others) are evading..
Difficult for him to do given that OBD2 didn't become standard on cars
in this country until after he faked a back injury and hung up his grey dustcoat "_
Noddy wrote:
On 30/09/2026 5:46 pm, jonz wrote:
On 30-Sep-26 11:32 AM, Xeno wrote:
The mismatch between the crank angle and cam angle sensors, once
they are beyond bounds, will set a code. There is nothing complex
or mysterious or secretive about that Darren.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-aAND?, stick to the subject you (and the others) are evading..
Difficult for him to do given that OBD2 didn't become standard on
cars in this country until after he faked a back injury and hung up
his grey dustcoat "_
There is no evidence that Xeno ever "...faked a back injury..." Fraudster.
Otoh, there is serious evidence that you've "faked", (amongst many
other things), your entire work history and your claimed qualifications.
So you 'win' easily once again Buffo! Well played!
On 30/9/2026 5:46 pm, jonz wrote:
On 30-Sep-26 11:32 AM, Xeno wrote:He actually agreed with what Noddy and I said, wonders will never cease.
On 30/9/2026 10:48 am, Noddy wrote:
On 30/09/2026 9:36 am, Daryl wrote:The mismatch between the crank angle and cam angle sensors, once they
On 30/9/2026 8:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more
than the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of
hundred dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's
capabilities, you're looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual >>>>>>> subscription fees.
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-
for- holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-
MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw-
dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
I very rarely work on Holdens but not that long ago I was asked to
find out why the check engine light was always on a friends VE, my
Autel MK906BT which cost a hell of a lot more than a "couple of
hundred dollars" was able to tell me that it had the dreaded cam
chain stretch, there was nothing special about that scan that a
cheaper tool couldn't do.
Which is usually the case.
are beyond bounds, will set a code. There is nothing complex or
mysterious or secretive about that Darren.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-aAND?, stick to the subject you (and the others) are evading..
There is no evidence that Xeno ever "...faked a back injury..." Fraudster.
just another lie he keeps repeating hoping ppl will believe it
I'm impressed. years ago I'd have loved a workshop like that but,
since doing my back in at 40, I've lost all enthusiasm for crawling
around, under and over cars. Even leaning forward over an engine bay
comes with copious quantities of pain. I'm 61 and been on a
disability pension for 12 years or so now. My days on the tools are
well behind me.
On 30/9/2026 5:46 pm, jonz wrote:
He actually agreed with what Noddy and I said, wonders will never cease.The mismatch between the crank angle and cam angle sensors, once they
are beyond bounds, will set a code. There is nothing complex or
mysterious or secretive about that Darren.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-aAND?, stick to the subject you (and the others) are evading..
On 30/09/2026 8:10 pm, Axel wrote:
There is no evidence that Xeno ever "...faked a back injury..."
Fraudster.
just another lie he keeps repeating hoping ppl will believe it
You're a wonder of the modern world Felix. There is no other possible explanation for you being this fucking stupid.
His original comment was
I'm impressed. years ago I'd have loved a workshop like that but,
since doing my back in at 40, I've lost all enthusiasm for crawling
around, under and over cars. Even leaning forward over an engine bay
comes with copious quantities of pain. I'm 61 and been on a
disability pension for 12 years or so now. My days on the tools are
well behind me.
And over the course of conversations he went on to detail how despite
seeing *many* specialists no one could help him with a fix. Then,
suddenly and quite miraculously, a *GP* in Bumfuck Junction not only discovers that he has an "auto immune" issue, but provides him with a
cure that magically restores him to full health.
It's an amazing story, and one worthy of being recounted in Australian medical journals, but if you believe a single fucking *word* of it then you're a gullible fuckwit.
Oh, hang on a minute.... :)
On 30/09/2026 6:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 30/9/2026 5:46 pm, jonz wrote:
He actually agreed with what Noddy and I said, wonders will never cease.The mismatch between the crank angle and cam angle sensors, once
they are beyond bounds, will set a code. There is nothing complex or
mysterious or secretive about that Darren.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-aAND?, stick to the subject you (and the others) are evading..
He talks that much utter shit that the moron doesn't know *what* he's
saying :)
On 30/09/2026 8:10 pm, Axel wrote:
There is no evidence that Xeno ever "...faked a back injury..."
Fraudster.
just another lie he keeps repeating hoping ppl will believe it
You're a wonder of the modern world Felix. There is no other possible explanation for you being this fucking stupid.
His original comment was
I'm impressed. years ago I'd have loved a workshop like that but,
since doing my back in at 40, I've lost all enthusiasm for crawling
around, under and over cars. Even leaning forward over an engine bay
comes with copious quantities of pain. I'm 61 and been on a
disability pension for 12 years or so now. My days on the tools are
well behind me.
And over the course of conversations he went on to detail how despite
seeing *many* specialists no one could help him with a fix. Then,
suddenly and quite miraculously, a *GP* in Bumfuck Junction not only
discovers that he has an "auto immune" issue, but provides him with a
cure that magically restores him to full health.
It's an amazing story, and one worthy of being recounted in Australian medical journals, but if you believe a single fucking *word* of it then
you're a gullible fuckwit.
Oh, hang on a minute.... :)
Noddy wrote:He *always* sets out to deceive. He knows no other way.
On 30/09/2026 8:10 pm, Axel wrote:
There is no evidence that Xeno ever "...faked a back injury..."
Fraudster.
just another lie he keeps repeating hoping ppl will believe it
You're a wonder of the modern world Felix. There is no other possible
explanation for you being this fucking stupid.
His original comment was
I'm impressed. years ago I'd have loved a workshop like that but,
since doing my back in at 40, I've lost all enthusiasm for crawling
around, under and over cars. Even leaning forward over an engine bay
comes with copious quantities of pain. I'm 61 and been on a
disability pension for 12 years or so now. My days on the tools are
well behind me.
And over the course of conversations he went on to detail how despite
seeing *many* specialists no one could help him with a fix. Then,
suddenly and quite miraculously, a *GP* in Bumfuck Junction not only
discovers that he has an "auto immune" issue, but provides him with a
cure that magically restores him to full health.
It's an amazing story, and one worthy of being recounted in Australian
medical journals, but if you believe a single fucking *word* of it
then you're a gullible fuckwit.
Oh, hang on a minute.... :)
O what a mangled web you leave
when first you set out to deceive.
On 30/09/2026 8:10 pm, Axel wrote:
There is no evidence that Xeno ever "...faked a back injury..."
Fraudster.
just another lie he keeps repeating hoping ppl will believe it
You're a wonder of the modern world Felix. There is no other possible explanation for you being this fucking stupid.
His original comment was
I'm impressed. years ago I'd have loved a workshop like that but,
since doing my back in at 40, I've lost all enthusiasm for crawling
around, under and over cars. Even leaning forward over an engine bay
comes with copious quantities of pain. I'm 61 and been on a
disability pension for 12 years or so now. My days on the tools are
well behind me.
And over the course of conversations he went on to detail how despite
seeing *many* specialists no one could help him with a fix. Then,
suddenly and quite miraculously, a *GP* in Bumfuck Junction not only discovers that he has an "auto immune" issue, but provides him with a
cure that magically restores him to full health.
It's an amazing story, and one worthy of being recounted in Australian medical journals, but if you believe a single fucking *word* of it then you're a gullible fuckwit.
Oh, hang on a minute.... :)
On 30/09/2026 6:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 30/9/2026 5:46 pm, jonz wrote:
He actually agreed with what Noddy and I said, wonders will never cease.The mismatch between the crank angle and cam angle sensors, once
they are beyond bounds, will set a code. There is nothing complex or
mysterious or secretive about that Darren.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-aAND?, stick to the subject you (and the others) are evading..
He talks that much utter shit that the moron doesn't know *what* he's
saying :)
On 30/09/2026 6:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
On 30/9/2026 5:46 pm, jonz wrote:
He actually agreed with what Noddy and I said, wonders will never cease.The mismatch between the crank angle and cam angle sensors, once
they are beyond bounds, will set a code. There is nothing complex or
mysterious or secretive about that Darren.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-aAND?, stick to the subject you (and the others) are evading..
He talks that much utter shit that the moron doesn't know *what* he's
saying :)
On 30/09/2026 7:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
He talks that much utter shit that the moron doesn't know *what* he's
saying :)
From the bloke who can't remember his height or that he said he has diabetes several times...
On 30/09/2026 6:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
His original comment was
I'm impressed. years ago I'd have loved a workshop like that but,
since doing my back in at 40, I've lost all enthusiasm for crawling
around, under and over cars. Even leaning forward over an engine bay
comes with copious quantities of pain. I'm 61 and been on a
disability pension for 12 years or so now. My days on the tools are
well behind me.
And over the course of conversations he went on to detail how despite
seeing *many* specialists no one could help him with a fix. Then,
suddenly and quite miraculously, a *GP* in Bumfuck Junction not only
discovers that he has an "auto immune" issue, but provides him with a
cure that magically restores him to full health.
It's an amazing story, and one worthy of being recounted in Australian
medical journals, but if you believe a single fucking *word* of it
then you're a gullible fuckwit.
Oh, hang on a minute.... :)
No evidence of a faked back injury you lying, deceptive and dishonest cretin.
On 1/10/2026 8:42 am, Clocky wrote:
On 30/09/2026 6:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
His original comment was
I'm impressed. years ago I'd have loved a workshop like that but,
since doing my back in at 40, I've lost all enthusiasm for crawling
around, under and over cars. Even leaning forward over an engine bay
comes with copious quantities of pain. I'm 61 and been on a
disability pension for 12 years or so now. My days on the tools are
well behind me.
And over the course of conversations he went on to detail how despite
seeing *many* specialists no one could help him with a fix. Then,
suddenly and quite miraculously, a *GP* in Bumfuck Junction not only
discovers that he has an "auto immune" issue, but provides him with a
cure that magically restores him to full health.
It's an amazing story, and one worthy of being recounted in Australian
medical journals, but if you believe a single fucking *word* of it
then you're a gullible fuckwit.
Oh, hang on a minute.... :)
No evidence of a faked back injury you lying, deceptive and dishonest
cretin.
No, that's right. There isn't. He was just a medical miracle where a
back complaint that was so debilitating that it forced him into early retirement was suddenly and quite magically cured by a GP after years of specialists failing to do so.
If that's the kind of bullshit you need to believe in order to have
friends then you go right ahead buddy :)
On 1/10/2026 8:45 am, Clocky wrote:
On 30/09/2026 7:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
He talks that much utter shit that the moron doesn't know *what*
he's saying :)
-aFrom the bloke who can't remember his height or that he said he has
diabetes several times...
I do have diabetes, and have no trouble remembering my height. Looks
like your bullshit has failed you yet again....
On 30/9/2026 5:46 pm, jonz wrote:
On 30-Sep-26 11:32 AM, Xeno wrote:He actually agreed with what Noddy and I said, wonders will never cease.
On 30/9/2026 10:48 am, Noddy wrote:
On 30/09/2026 9:36 am, Daryl wrote:The mismatch between the crank angle and cam angle sensors, once they
On 30/9/2026 8:34 am, Keithr0 wrote:
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way more
than the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of
hundred dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's
capabilities, you're looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual >>>>>>> subscription fees.
Try this one:-
https://premium-diagnostics.com.au/products/gm-tech2-scan-tool-
for- holden-saab?srsltid=AU7gw4VJpQ-QEHaBkEOLVgk-
MxS7cQ975gxbV04XhUoTw-
dzmudfjBhm#:~:text=The%20Tech2%20is%20the%20factory,a%20decade%2C%20it%20delivers%20the
Should be within the budget of the average "shade tree mechanic".
I very rarely work on Holdens but not that long ago I was asked to
find out why the check engine light was always on a friends VE, my
Autel MK906BT which cost a hell of a lot more than a "couple of
hundred dollars" was able to tell me that it had the dreaded cam
chain stretch, there was nothing special about that scan that a
cheaper tool couldn't do.
Which is usually the case.
are beyond bounds, will set a code. There is nothing complex or
mysterious or secretive about that Darren.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-a-aAND?, stick to the subject you (and the others) are evading..
On 30/9/2026 6:03 pm, Noddy wrote:*Proved* by *you*? C'mon..EfnuEf2|
On 30/09/2026 3:40 pm, jonz wrote:Not at all Darren. It's to show that you have never used a dealer
On 30-Sep-26 9:20 AM, Xeno wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 30/9/2026 12:15 am, Noddy wrote:
On 29/09/2026 10:08 pm, Keithr0 wrote:The Tech II is *from GM* and intended only to be used with *GM
On 28/09/2026 9:54 am, Xeno wrote:
And the Tech 2, as with all dealer OBD2 tools, can do way moreThat's simply because there are only a few PIDs defined in the
than the stuff a shade tree mechanic can buy for a couple of
hundred dollars. Want something *close* to the Tech 2's
capabilities, you're looking at thousands of dollars *and* annual >>>>>>> subscription fees.
OBD2 specification most of the others are specific to
manufacturers, the Tech2 is useless on any non GM vehicles.
Indeed it is.
Vehicles*. I am sure GM doesn't give a shit if Ford users cannot use
a Tech II. Anyway, Ford has their own as does Chrysler. BTW, the
OBD2 compliant variants of the Tech II, with appropriate adaptors
and software updates, should be able to identify faults on some non
GM vehicles - Suzuki, Opel and Isuzu, possibly Saab, since these are
GM affiliated brands. Note, it will not do a diagnosis on vehicles
with proprietary comms interfaces.
Bottom line, GM Tech II is a proprietary diagnostic tool for GM and
affiliated vehicles and is not designed to be universal - end of story. >>>
-a-aSo fuckin' *what?* Never *was* part of this pitiful *race to the
bottom* All *you* are good for is *muddying the waters* xenokryp.>
Exactly. All talk of "Tech2" is nothing other than a focus shift to
move attention away from the fact that when it comes to OBD2 these two
muppets have no idea what they're talking about.
scantool in your entire life. Thanks for proving it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So fuckin' *what?* Never *was* part of this pitiful *race to thebottom* All *you* are good for is *muddying the waters* xenokryp.>
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
On 1/10/2026 8:42 am, Clocky wrote:
On 30/09/2026 6:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
His original comment was
I'm impressed. years ago I'd have loved a workshop like that but,
since doing my back in at 40, I've lost all enthusiasm for crawling
around, under and over cars. Even leaning forward over an engine bay >>>>> comes with copious quantities of pain. I'm 61 and been on a
disability pension for 12 years or so now. My days on the tools are
well behind me.
And over the course of conversations he went on to detail how despite
seeing *many* specialists no one could help him with a fix. Then,
suddenly and quite miraculously, a *GP* in Bumfuck Junction not only
discovers that he has an "auto immune" issue, but provides him with a
cure that magically restores him to full health.
It's an amazing story, and one worthy of being recounted in Australian >>>> medical journals, but if you believe a single fucking *word* of it
then you're a gullible fuckwit.
Oh, hang on a minute.... :)
No evidence of a faked back injury you lying, deceptive and dishonest
cretin.
No, that's right. There isn't. He was just a medical miracle where a
back complaint that was so debilitating that it forced him into early
retirement was suddenly and quite magically cured by a GP after years of
specialists failing to do so.
If that's the kind of bullshit you need to believe in order to have
friends then you go right ahead buddy :)
Love the way you try to spin your bullshit Darren. A back problem will not get you retirement Darren. Especially for teachers. See if you can work out why.
____
Xeno
Love the way you try to spin your bullshit Darren.
Noddy wrote:
On 1/10/2026 8:45 am, Clocky wrote:
On 30/09/2026 7:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
He talks that much utter shit that the moron doesn't know *what*
he's saying :)
-aFrom the bloke who can't remember his height or that he said he has
diabetes several times...
I do have diabetes, and have no trouble remembering my height. Looks
like your bullshit has failed you yet again....
you've posted several different heights for yourself,
had/haven't had diabetes. the BS is all yours, liar
On 1/10/2026 8:42 am, Clocky wrote:
On 30/09/2026 6:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
His original comment was
I'm impressed. years ago I'd have loved a workshop like that but,
since doing my back in at 40, I've lost all enthusiasm for crawling
around, under and over cars. Even leaning forward over an engine bay
comes with copious quantities of pain. I'm 61 and been on a
disability pension for 12 years or so now. My days on the tools are
well behind me.
And over the course of conversations he went on to detail how despite
seeing *many* specialists no one could help him with a fix. Then,
suddenly and quite miraculously, a *GP* in Bumfuck Junction not only
discovers that he has an "auto immune" issue, but provides him with a
cure that magically restores him to full health.
It's an amazing story, and one worthy of being recounted in
Australian medical journals, but if you believe a single fucking
*word* of it then you're a gullible fuckwit.
Oh, hang on a minute.... :)
No evidence of a faked back injury you lying, deceptive and dishonest
cretin.
No, that's right. There isn't.
On 1/10/2026 8:45 am, Clocky wrote:
On 30/09/2026 7:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
He talks that much utter shit that the moron doesn't know *what* he's
saying :)
-aFrom the bloke who can't remember his height or that he said he has
diabetes several times...
I do have diabetes, and have no trouble remembering my height.
On 1/10/2026 8:42 am, Clocky wrote:
On 30/09/2026 6:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
His original comment was
I'm impressed. years ago I'd have loved a workshop like that but,
since doing my back in at 40, I've lost all enthusiasm for crawling
around, under and over cars. Even leaning forward over an engine bay
comes with copious quantities of pain. I'm 61 and been on a
disability pension for 12 years or so now. My days on the tools are
well behind me.
And over the course of conversations he went on to detail how despite
seeing *many* specialists no one could help him with a fix. Then,
suddenly and quite miraculously, a *GP* in Bumfuck Junction not only
discovers that he has an "auto immune" issue, but provides him with a
cure that magically restores him to full health.
It's an amazing story, and one worthy of being recounted in
Australian medical journals, but if you believe a single fucking
*word* of it then you're a gullible fuckwit.
Oh, hang on a minute.... :)
No evidence of a faked back injury you lying, deceptive and dishonest
cretin.
No, that's right. There isn't.
On 1/10/2026 8:43 am, Axel wrote:
Noddy wrote:
On 1/10/2026 8:45 am, Clocky wrote:
On 30/09/2026 7:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
He talks that much utter shit that the moron doesn't know *what*
he's saying :)
-aFrom the bloke who can't remember his height or that he said he has >>>> diabetes several times...
I do have diabetes, and have no trouble remembering my height. Looks
like your bullshit has failed you yet again....
you've posted several different heights for yourself,
Significantly different too.
-aand that you've
had/haven't had diabetes. the BS is all yours, liar
Yep in 2006 he claimed he had diabetes and did so more than once, in
2020 he questioned why he would have claimed to have diabetes when he's never had diabetes (and I posted his own words from 2006 back to him
which of course went down a treat :) and now 20 years after his initial claim to have diabetes which he later denied claiming he had - it's back again!
He's a pathological liar.
On 1/10/2026 8:00 am, Noddy wrote:
No evidence of a faked back injury you lying, deceptive and dishonest
cretin.
No, that's right. There isn't.
Thanks for confirming that you are lying, deceptive and dishonest
cretin though it was never in question.
Noddy wrote:
On 1/10/2026 8:45 am, Clocky wrote:
On 30/09/2026 7:00 pm, Noddy wrote:
He talks that much utter shit that the moron doesn't know *what*
he's saying :)
-aFrom the bloke who can't remember his height or that he said he has
diabetes several times...
I do have diabetes, and have no trouble remembering my height. Looks
like your bullshit has failed you yet again....
you've posted several different heights for yourself, and that you've had/haven't had diabetes.
the BS is all yours, liar
On 1/10/2026 8:43 am, Axel wrote:
you've posted several different heights for yourself,
Significantly different too.
-aand that you'veOn the same day.
had/haven't had diabetes. the BS is all yours, liar
Yep in 2006 he claimed he had diabetes and did so more than once,
On 1/10/2026 6:10 pm, Clocky wrote:More the point, do you remember what he found? Yeah, that's right, it
On 1/10/2026 8:00 am, Noddy wrote:
No evidence of a faked back injury you lying, deceptive and
dishonest cretin.
No, that's right. There isn't.
Thanks for confirming that you are lying, deceptive and dishonest
cretin though it was never in question.
Remember when you "investigated" this heap of shit for his reams of bullshit? :)
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