• Chinese EV buyers should check the dealer service fees

    From Nomen Nescio@nobody@dizum.com to aus.cars on Sun Aug 9 04:12:17 2026
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    More than a typical ICE vehicle.
    That is how the Chinks are making their money.

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  • From Axel@none@not.here to aus.cars on Sun Aug 9 12:24:09 2026
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    Nomen Nescio wrote:
    More than a typical ICE vehicle.
    That is how the Chinks are making their money.


    what servicing is there on an EV? other than what's common to ICE
    vehicles, of course. eg. brakes, tyres, etc
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  • From Xeno@xenolith@optusnet.com.au to aus.cars on Sun Aug 9 21:25:07 2026
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    On 9/8/2026 12:24 pm, Axel wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:
    More than a typical ICE vehicle.
    That is how the Chinks are making their money.


    what servicing is there on an EV? other than what's common to ICE
    vehicles, of course. eg. brakes, tyres, etc

    To answer that question, the best place to go a a manufacturer's service schedule.

    https://www.kia.com/content/dam/kia2/in/en/content/ev6-manual/topics/chapter8_4.html

    Like ICE vehicle servicing, there are lots of checks carried out
    *beyond* the standard oil and filter change. They still have cooling
    systems, hydraulic braking systems and more that require the occasional
    top up or fluid change. Furthermore, there are *additional* checks that
    need to be made, typically with a specific diagnostic tool, that didn't
    exist in ICE only vehicles. Exclusive BEV checks involve monitoring high voltage traction battery health, inspection of high voltage cables and
    casings for damage, flushing battery specific cooling fluids and running digital diagnostics.

    All of that requires a new *toolset*.

    https://www.autoequipment.com.au/electric-hybrid-vehicle-test-equipment

    and a new *skillset*

    https://training.gov.au/training/details/AURETH007/unitdetails

    that I am sure most mechanics of today do not have.
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  • From Axel@none@not.here to aus.cars on Mon Aug 10 10:37:50 2026
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    Xeno wrote:


    On 9/8/2026 12:24 pm, Axel wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:
    More than a typical ICE vehicle.
    That is how the Chinks are making their money.


    what servicing is there on an EV? other than what's common to ICE
    vehicles, of course. eg. brakes, tyres, etc

    To answer that question, the best place to go a a manufacturer's
    service schedule.

    https://www.kia.com/content/dam/kia2/in/en/content/ev6-manual/topics/chapter8_4.html


    Like ICE vehicle servicing, there are lots of checks carried out
    *beyond* the standard oil and filter change. They still have cooling systems, hydraulic braking systems and more that require the
    occasional top up or fluid change. Furthermore, there are *additional* checks that need to be made, typically with a specific diagnostic
    tool, that didn't exist in ICE only vehicles. Exclusive BEV checks
    involve monitoring high voltage traction battery health, inspection of
    high voltage cables and casings for damage, flushing battery specific cooling fluids and running digital diagnostics.

    All of that requires a new *toolset*.

    https://www.autoequipment.com.au/electric-hybrid-vehicle-test-equipment

    and a new *skillset*

    https://training.gov.au/training/details/AURETH007/unitdetails

    that I am sure most mechanics of today do not have.


    interesting. I guess there'll be some sort of accreditation as an EV
    mechanic at some stage
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  • From Xeno@xenolith@optusnet.com.au to aus.cars on Mon Aug 10 12:01:06 2026
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    On 10/8/2026 10:37 am, Axel wrote:
    Xeno wrote:


    On 9/8/2026 12:24 pm, Axel wrote:
    Nomen Nescio wrote:
    More than a typical ICE vehicle.
    That is how the Chinks are making their money.


    what servicing is there on an EV? other than what's common to ICE
    vehicles, of course. eg. brakes, tyres, etc

    To answer that question, the best place to go a a manufacturer's
    service schedule.

    https://www.kia.com/content/dam/kia2/in/en/content/ev6-manual/topics/
    chapter8_4.html

    Like ICE vehicle servicing, there are lots of checks carried out
    *beyond* the standard oil and filter change. They still have cooling
    systems, hydraulic braking systems and more that require the
    occasional top up or fluid change. Furthermore, there are *additional*
    checks that need to be made, typically with a specific diagnostic
    tool, that didn't exist in ICE only vehicles. Exclusive BEV checks
    involve monitoring high voltage traction battery health, inspection of
    high voltage cables and casings for damage, flushing battery specific
    cooling fluids and running digital diagnostics.

    All of that requires a new *toolset*.

    https://www.autoequipment.com.au/electric-hybrid-vehicle-test-equipment

    and a new *skillset*

    https://training.gov.au/training/details/AURETH007/unitdetails

    that I am sure most mechanics of today do not have.


    interesting. I guess there'll be some sort of accreditation as an EV mechanic at some stage


    There is now. If you aren't licensed to work on high voltage, you won't
    be *legally* working on hybrids. The legal limit for unlicenced people
    is 50V AC and 120V ripple free DC. The electrical licencing scheme can
    and will be used to convictunqualified DIY individual working on BEVs
    and Hybrids.

    The training standards for automotive.

    AURETH101 (Battery electric vehicles)

    AURETH011 (Hybrid electric vehicles)

    https://www.mtatraining.com.au/Courses/Electric%20Vehicle/battery-electric-vehicle-courses

    https://www.kangan.edu.au/courses/department/automotive/electric-vehicle-skill-set-9842

    Currently, in *some* parts of Australia, legally qualified mechanics
    with a standard Certificate III can *technically* service and repair
    battery electric vehicles (BEVs) without specific high-voltage training, though workplace health and safety laws require employers to manage
    risks. Therein lies the caveat! Specific licensing proposals for BEV
    repairs are still under review and not universally mandated. That said, specific *electrical* licenses are required to work on equipment with
    voltages over ~60 volts and DC 120 volts. Remember, BEVs and Hybrids
    have DC Voltages up to 800 volts and AC Voltages between 400-800 volts.
    If you damage equipment, burn the workshop down, or kill someone - and
    you don't have appropriate training and/or certification, good luck
    trying to get insurance to pay out. Most of the automotive service
    centres around here now have sufficient suitably certified people to
    work on BEVs and Hybrids.
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