• Koala Airlines to enter Australian market

    From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.aviation on Thu Aug 29 07:25:44 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS u Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to
    obreak the moldo and establish itself as a formidable competitor to
    Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations with
    Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that
    complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.
    --
    Petzl
    Good lawyers know the law
    Great lawyers know the judge

    justice is open to all; like the Ritz hotel
    High Court reveals every current judge is a
    member of QantasA amost exclusive club in AustraliaA
    The High Court has exposed secret members of QantasA
    exclusive ChairmanAs Lounge amid a landmark case over
    the sacking of 1700 workers.
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  • From Daryl@dwalford@westpine.com.au to aus.aviation on Thu Aug 29 10:18:37 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS rCo Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to
    rCLbreak the moldrCY and establish itself as a formidable competitor to Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations with
    Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one ever
    talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have
    some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and the general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do.
    They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.
    --
    Daryl
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.aviation on Thu Aug 29 13:38:06 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS u Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to
    obreak the moldo and establish itself as a formidable competitor to
    Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations with
    Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that
    complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one ever >talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have
    some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and the >general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do.
    They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.

    Alliance Airlines
    <https://www.allianceairlines.com.au/where-we-fly>

    Suspect there is money in failing?
    There is usually a prospectus director get paid from that, staff get
    paid from ticket sales, the Aircraft are American rentals.

    I doubt if the population of Australia can support more than one local
    carrier without Government subsidies?
    --
    Petzl
    Good lawyers know the law
    Great lawyers know the judge

    justice is open to all; like the Ritz hotel
    High Court reveals every current judge is a
    member of QantasA amost exclusive club in AustraliaA
    The High Court has exposed secret members of QantasA
    exclusive ChairmanAs Lounge amid a landmark case over
    the sacking of 1700 workers.
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  • From Daryl@dwalford@westpine.com.au to aus.aviation on Thu Aug 29 14:18:48 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On 29/8/2024 1:38 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS rCo Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to
    rCLbreak the moldrCY and establish itself as a formidable competitor to
    Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations with
    Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that
    complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one ever
    talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have
    some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and the
    general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do.
    They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.

    Alliance Airlines
    <https://www.allianceairlines.com.au/where-we-fly>

    Suspect there is money in failing?

    Unlikely.

    There is usually a prospectus director get paid from that, staff get
    paid from ticket sales, the Aircraft are American rentals.

    I doubt if the population of Australia can support more than one local carrier without Government subsidies?

    AFAIK Qantas and Virgin aren't subsidized except on some remote regional routes.
    Possibly some Rex regional routes are subsidized
    --
    Daryl
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.aviation on Thu Aug 29 18:07:53 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:18:48 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 1:38 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS u Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to
    obreak the moldo and establish itself as a formidable competitor to
    Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations with >>>> Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that
    complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one ever
    talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have
    some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and the >>> general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do.
    They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.

    Alliance Airlines
    <https://www.allianceairlines.com.au/where-we-fly>

    Suspect there is money in failing?

    Unlikely.

    There is usually a prospectus director get paid from that, staff get
    paid from ticket sales, the Aircraft are American rentals.

    I doubt if the population of Australia can support more than one local
    carrier without Government subsidies?

    AFAIK Qantas and Virgin aren't subsidized except on some remote regional >routes.
    Possibly some Rex regional routes are subsidized

    Seems they are all running on fumes,
    Dodgey economics at best <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/qantas-posts-fall-in-its-post-tax-profit-to-1-25-billion/104271934>
    https://t.ly/mwhxv
    Qantas has recorded a 28 per cent fall in its post-tax profit to $1.25
    billion in the 2024 financial year.
    Chief executive Vanessa Hudson said the airline's focus this year has
    been getting the "balance right in delivering for customers, employees
    and shareholders".
    What's next?
    Qantas didn't declare a dividend, but it announced an up to $400
    million share buyback.
    --
    Petzl
    Good lawyers know the law
    Great lawyers know the judge

    justice is open to all; like the Ritz hotel
    High Court reveals every current judge is a
    member of QantasA amost exclusive club in AustraliaA
    The High Court has exposed secret members of QantasA
    exclusive ChairmanAs Lounge amid a landmark case over
    the sacking of 1700 workers.
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  • From Daryl@dwalford@westpine.com.au to aus.aviation on Thu Aug 29 21:54:21 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On 29/8/2024 6:07 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:18:48 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 1:38 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS rCo Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to
    rCLbreak the moldrCY and establish itself as a formidable competitor to >>>>> Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations with >>>>> Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that
    complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one ever >>>> talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have >>>> some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and the >>>> general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do.
    They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.

    Alliance Airlines
    <https://www.allianceairlines.com.au/where-we-fly>

    Suspect there is money in failing?

    Unlikely.

    There is usually a prospectus director get paid from that, staff get
    paid from ticket sales, the Aircraft are American rentals.

    I doubt if the population of Australia can support more than one local
    carrier without Government subsidies?

    AFAIK Qantas and Virgin aren't subsidized except on some remote regional
    routes.
    Possibly some Rex regional routes are subsidized

    Seems they are all running on fumes,
    Dodgey economics at best <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/qantas-posts-fall-in-its-post-tax-profit-to-1-25-billion/104271934>
    https://t.ly/mwhxv
    Qantas has recorded a 28 per cent fall in its post-tax profit to $1.25 billion in the 2024 financial year.
    Chief executive Vanessa Hudson said the airline's focus this year has
    been getting the "balance right in delivering for customers, employees
    and shareholders".

    I read that.
    They pissed off a lot of former loyal customers, its not going to be
    easy to win those back.

    What's next?

    Things may get better for Qantas now that the Leprechaun has gone, he
    seemed to go out of his way to piss off employees and customers which is
    no way to run a business if you want it be around for a long time.
    --
    Daryl
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.aviation on Fri Aug 30 19:03:00 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:54:21 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 6:07 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:18:48 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 1:38 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS u Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to
    obreak the moldo and establish itself as a formidable competitor to >>>>>> Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations with >>>>>> Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that >>>>>> complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one ever >>>>> talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have >>>>> some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and the >>>>> general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do.
    They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.

    Alliance Airlines
    <https://www.allianceairlines.com.au/where-we-fly>

    Suspect there is money in failing?

    Unlikely.

    There is usually a prospectus director get paid from that, staff get
    paid from ticket sales, the Aircraft are American rentals.

    I doubt if the population of Australia can support more than one local >>>> carrier without Government subsidies?

    AFAIK Qantas and Virgin aren't subsidized except on some remote regional >>> routes.
    Possibly some Rex regional routes are subsidized

    Seems they are all running on fumes,
    Dodgey economics at best
    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/qantas-posts-fall-in-its-post-tax-profit-to-1-25-billion/104271934>
    https://t.ly/mwhxv
    Qantas has recorded a 28 per cent fall in its post-tax profit to $1.25
    billion in the 2024 financial year.
    Chief executive Vanessa Hudson said the airline's focus this year has
    been getting the "balance right in delivering for customers, employees
    and shareholders".

    I read that.
    They pissed off a lot of former loyal customers, its not going to be
    easy to win those back.

    What's next?

    Things may get better for Qantas now that the Leprechaun has gone, he
    seemed to go out of his way to piss off employees and customers which is
    no way to run a business if you want it be around for a long time.

    Used to always fly QANTAS till the Leprechaun appeared
    QANTAS offended me straight away with booking on QANTAS then expected
    to boar Jetstar.
    I suspect if Jestar is to remain that is what needs improving
    IMO best shod of it!
    --
    Petzl
    Only the Irish Leprignomes have remained aloof and their family
    heritage remains pure and unconfused. Gnome watchers believe that the
    reason for this stems from the unfortunate events that led to their
    expulsion from the peat bogs of Ireland in the late 1700s. It is
    thought that the ambitious Leprignomes encroached on the territorial
    boundaries of the intellectually superior Leprechauns. The Grand
    Legislature of Leprechauns banished the ringleaders of this audacious
    uprising to Australia. As a parting gesture they cast such a powerful
    spell on the Leprignomes that, even today, they remain too shy to
    associate with other gnome species.
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  • From Daryl@dwalford@westpine.com.au to aus.aviation on Fri Aug 30 22:21:30 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On 30/8/2024 7:03 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:54:21 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 6:07 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:18:48 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 1:38 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> >>>>> wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS rCo Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to >>>>>>> rCLbreak the moldrCY and establish itself as a formidable competitor to >>>>>>> Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations with >>>>>>> Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that >>>>>>> complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one ever >>>>>> talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have >>>>>> some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and the >>>>>> general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do.
    They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.

    Alliance Airlines
    <https://www.allianceairlines.com.au/where-we-fly>

    Suspect there is money in failing?

    Unlikely.

    There is usually a prospectus director get paid from that, staff get >>>>> paid from ticket sales, the Aircraft are American rentals.

    I doubt if the population of Australia can support more than one local >>>>> carrier without Government subsidies?

    AFAIK Qantas and Virgin aren't subsidized except on some remote regional >>>> routes.
    Possibly some Rex regional routes are subsidized

    Seems they are all running on fumes,
    Dodgey economics at best
    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/qantas-posts-fall-in-its-post-tax-profit-to-1-25-billion/104271934>
    https://t.ly/mwhxv
    Qantas has recorded a 28 per cent fall in its post-tax profit to $1.25
    billion in the 2024 financial year.
    Chief executive Vanessa Hudson said the airline's focus this year has
    been getting the "balance right in delivering for customers, employees
    and shareholders".

    I read that.
    They pissed off a lot of former loyal customers, its not going to be
    easy to win those back.

    What's next?

    Things may get better for Qantas now that the Leprechaun has gone, he
    seemed to go out of his way to piss off employees and customers which is
    no way to run a business if you want it be around for a long time.

    Used to always fly QANTAS till the Leprechaun appeared
    QANTAS offended me straight away with booking on QANTAS then expected
    to boar Jetstar.
    I suspect if Jestar is to remain that is what needs improving
    IMO best shod of it!

    I've never flown Qantas but flown numerous times on Jetstar and never
    had a problem, on domestic flights I've always gone for the cheapest.
    Only ever had one Jetstar flight cancelled and they booked us on a
    flight only 40mins later than our original flight so it didn't cause us
    any problems, they also gave us a $100 flight voucher each for the inconvenience so I'll happily fly Jetstar.
    --
    Daryl
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  • From Petzl@petzlx@gmail.com to aus.aviation on Sat Aug 31 09:38:27 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 22:21:30 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 30/8/2024 7:03 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:54:21 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 6:07 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:18:48 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 1:38 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS u Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to >>>>>>>> obreak the moldo and establish itself as a formidable competitor to >>>>>>>> Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations with >>>>>>>> Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that >>>>>>>> complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one ever >>>>>>> talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have >>>>>>> some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and the
    general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do. >>>>>>> They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.

    Alliance Airlines
    <https://www.allianceairlines.com.au/where-we-fly>

    Suspect there is money in failing?

    Unlikely.

    There is usually a prospectus director get paid from that, staff get >>>>>> paid from ticket sales, the Aircraft are American rentals.

    I doubt if the population of Australia can support more than one local >>>>>> carrier without Government subsidies?

    AFAIK Qantas and Virgin aren't subsidized except on some remote regional >>>>> routes.
    Possibly some Rex regional routes are subsidized

    Seems they are all running on fumes,
    Dodgey economics at best
    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/qantas-posts-fall-in-its-post-tax-profit-to-1-25-billion/104271934>
    https://t.ly/mwhxv
    Qantas has recorded a 28 per cent fall in its post-tax profit to $1.25 >>>> billion in the 2024 financial year.
    Chief executive Vanessa Hudson said the airline's focus this year has
    been getting the "balance right in delivering for customers, employees >>>> and shareholders".

    I read that.
    They pissed off a lot of former loyal customers, its not going to be
    easy to win those back.

    What's next?

    Things may get better for Qantas now that the Leprechaun has gone, he
    seemed to go out of his way to piss off employees and customers which is >>> no way to run a business if you want it be around for a long time.

    Used to always fly QANTAS till the Leprechaun appeared
    QANTAS offended me straight away with booking on QANTAS then expected
    to boar Jetstar.
    I suspect if Jestar is to remain that is what needs improving
    IMO best shod of it!

    I've never flown Qantas but flown numerous times on Jetstar and never
    had a problem, on domestic flights I've always gone for the cheapest.
    Only ever had one Jetstar flight cancelled and they booked us on a
    flight only 40mins later than our original flight so it didn't cause us
    any problems, they also gave us a $100 flight voucher each for the >inconvenience so I'll happily fly Jetstar.

    Only once flown from Brisbane to Sydney a mate drove up in his car.
    For a short trip was OK but no leg room like Qantas provide.
    Used to go to NZ often last time 200? and flew Qantas Boeing 737
    aircraft internally there different as chalk and cheese to Jetstar.
    Also gave better views over NZ the trips were pleasant more leg room,
    the Christchurch waiting room took lunch orders, fantastic meals.
    enjoyable my wife enjoyed hers also.
    Seemed a short exercise though read losing money Leprechaun economics.
    NZ is even smaller than OZ/
    --
    Petzl
    Good lawyers know the law
    Great lawyers know the judge

    justice is open to all; like the Ritz hotel
    High Court reveals every current judge is a
    member of QantasA amost exclusive club in AustraliaA
    The High Court has exposed secret members of QantasA
    exclusive ChairmanAs Lounge amid a landmark case over
    the sacking of 1700 workers.
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  • From Daryl@dwalford@westpine.com.au to aus.aviation on Sat Aug 31 10:27:06 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On 31/8/2024 9:38 am, Petzl wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 22:21:30 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 30/8/2024 7:03 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:54:21 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 6:07 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:18:48 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> >>>>> wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 1:38 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> >>>>>>> wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS rCo Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to >>>>>>>>> rCLbreak the moldrCY and establish itself as a formidable competitor to
    Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations with
    Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that >>>>>>>>> complements the existing market landscape without disrupting >>>>>>>>> established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one ever
    talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have >>>>>>>> some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and the
    general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do. >>>>>>>> They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.

    Alliance Airlines
    <https://www.allianceairlines.com.au/where-we-fly>

    Suspect there is money in failing?

    Unlikely.

    There is usually a prospectus director get paid from that, staff get >>>>>>> paid from ticket sales, the Aircraft are American rentals.

    I doubt if the population of Australia can support more than one local >>>>>>> carrier without Government subsidies?

    AFAIK Qantas and Virgin aren't subsidized except on some remote regional >>>>>> routes.
    Possibly some Rex regional routes are subsidized

    Seems they are all running on fumes,
    Dodgey economics at best
    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/qantas-posts-fall-in-its-post-tax-profit-to-1-25-billion/104271934>
    https://t.ly/mwhxv
    Qantas has recorded a 28 per cent fall in its post-tax profit to $1.25 >>>>> billion in the 2024 financial year.
    Chief executive Vanessa Hudson said the airline's focus this year has >>>>> been getting the "balance right in delivering for customers, employees >>>>> and shareholders".

    I read that.
    They pissed off a lot of former loyal customers, its not going to be
    easy to win those back.

    What's next?

    Things may get better for Qantas now that the Leprechaun has gone, he
    seemed to go out of his way to piss off employees and customers which is >>>> no way to run a business if you want it be around for a long time.

    Used to always fly QANTAS till the Leprechaun appeared
    QANTAS offended me straight away with booking on QANTAS then expected
    to boar Jetstar.
    I suspect if Jestar is to remain that is what needs improving
    IMO best shod of it!

    I've never flown Qantas but flown numerous times on Jetstar and never
    had a problem, on domestic flights I've always gone for the cheapest.
    Only ever had one Jetstar flight cancelled and they booked us on a
    flight only 40mins later than our original flight so it didn't cause us
    any problems, they also gave us a $100 flight voucher each for the
    inconvenience so I'll happily fly Jetstar.

    Only once flown from Brisbane to Sydney a mate drove up in his car.
    For a short trip was OK but no leg room like Qantas provide.
    Used to go to NZ often last time 200? and flew Qantas Boeing 737
    aircraft internally there different as chalk and cheese to Jetstar.
    Also gave better views over NZ the trips were pleasant more leg room,
    the Christchurch waiting room took lunch orders, fantastic meals.
    enjoyable my wife enjoyed hers also.
    Seemed a short exercise though read losing money Leprechaun economics.
    NZ is even smaller than OZ/


    You get what you pay for and on domestic flights that aren't very long I prefer a lower price instead of a few extras, to me its worth putting up
    with a little less leg room and having to buy my own meals to save
    hundreds of $.
    We are flying to Bris from Melb return next month and we are flying
    Virgin, I was able to use Velocity points (68,000) so the flights are
    costing just over $100 return for 2.
    Parking at $92.00 cost nearly as much as the flights.
    --
    Daryl
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.aviation on Fri Sep 6 09:04:31 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:
    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au
    >> <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF
    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS rCo Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to
    rCLbreak the moldrCY and establish itself as a formidable competitor to
    Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations with
    Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that
    complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one ever > talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have > some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and the > general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do.
    They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.
    That's not correct, they actually fly a couple more Embraer 190s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Airlines#Current_fleet
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.aviation on Fri Sep 6 09:27:15 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 13:38:06 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS rCo Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to
    rCLbreak the moldrCY and establish itself as a formidable competitor to
    Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations with
    Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that
    complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one ever
    talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have
    some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and the
    general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do.
    They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.

    Alliance Airlines
    <https://www.allianceairlines.com.au/where-we-fly>
    Suspect there is money in failing?
    You'd be wrong. Didnt happen with Bonza or Rex
    There is usually a prospectus
    Only with publicly listed operations.
    director get paid from that,
    Wrong.
    staff get paid from ticket sales,
    Wrong.
    the Aircraft are American rentals.
    Wrong again with Alliance, the Embraers are Quantaslink wetleased https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Airlines#Current_fleet
    I doubt if the population of Australia can support morethan one local > carrier without Government subsidies?
    Its actually 1.5 that the country can support.
    Virgin isnt govt subsidised
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.aviation on Fri Sep 6 09:28:33 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:18:48 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:
    On 29/8/2024 1:38 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS rCo Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to
    rCLbreak the moldrCY and establish itself as a formidable competitor to >>>> Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations with >>>> Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that
    complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one ever
    talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have
    some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and >>> the
    general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do.
    They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.

    Alliance Airlines
    <https://www.allianceairlines.com.au/where-we-fly>
    Suspect there is money in failing?

    Unlikely.

    There is usually a prospectus director get paid from that, staff get
    paid from ticket sales, the Aircraft are American rentals.
    I doubt if the population of Australia can support more than one local
    carrier without Government subsidies?

    AFAIK Qantas and Virgin aren't subsidized except on some remote regional > routes.
    Nope, none of them are.
    Possibly some Rex regional routes are subsidized
    Nope, only during covid
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.aviation on Fri Sep 6 09:31:24 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 18:07:53 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:18:48 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 1:38 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>>>> wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS rCo Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to
    rCLbreak the moldrCY and establish itself as a formidable competitor to >>>>> Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations >>>>> with
    Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that>>>>> complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one >>>> ever
    talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they have >>>> some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background and >>>> the
    general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do.
    They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.

    Alliance Airlines
    <https://www.allianceairlines.com.au/where-we-fly>

    Suspect there is money in failing?

    Unlikely.

    There is usually a prospectus director get paid from that, staff get>>> paid from ticket sales, the Aircraft are American rentals.

    I doubt if the population of Australia can support more than one local
    carrier without Government subsidies?

    AFAIK Qantas and Virgin aren't subsidized except on some remote regional
    routes.
    Possibly some Rex regional routes are subsidized
    Seems they are all running on fumes,
    Nope, Rex was profitable before covid and the 737 insanity
    Qantas never was.
    Dodgey economics at best <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/qantas-posts-fall-in-its-post-tax-profit-to-1-25-billion/104271934>
    https://t.ly/mwhxv
    Qantas has recorded a 28 per cent fall in its post-tax profit to $1.25> billion in the 2024 financial year.
    $1.25B isnt running on fumes.
    Chief executive Vanessa Hudson said the airline's focus this year has
    been getting the "balance right in delivering for customers, employees> and shareholders".
    What's next?
    Qantas didn't declare a dividend, but it announced an up to $400
    million share buyback.
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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to aus.aviation on Fri Sep 6 09:34:17 2024
    From Newsgroup: aus.aviation

    On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:03:00 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:54:21 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
    wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 6:07 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 14:18:48 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>>>> wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 1:38 pm, Petzl wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:18:37 +1000, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> >>>>> wrote:

    On 29/8/2024 7:25 am, Petzl wrote:
    https://koalaair.com.au

    <https://www.airwaysmag.com/new-post/koala-airlines-australias-new-lcc-contender>
    https://t.ly/sbaFF

    Helwing Villamizar
    August 27, 2024
    DALLAS rCo Australia is about to see newcomer Koala Airlines try to >>>>>>> rCLbreak the moldrCY and establish itself as a formidable competitor to >>>>>>> Qantas (QF) and Virgin Australia (VA).
    Based in Melbourne, Koala Airlines has plans to launch operations >>>>>>> with
    Boeing 737-8 aircraft.
    The airline seeks to differentiate itself by creating a niche that >>>>>>> complements the existing market landscape without disrupting
    established LCC standards.


    Anyone taking bets on how long they will last?
    Interesting that there is another airline in Australia that no one >>>>>> ever
    talks about that has been around for a long time.
    Alliance Airlines does a lot of FIFO work plus charters plus they >>>>>> have
    some scheduled flights, they just work quietly in the background >>>>>> and the
    general population mostly don't know they exist or what they do.
    They mostly fly Fokker aircraft.

    Alliance Airlines
    <https://www.allianceairlines.com.au/where-we-fly>

    Suspect there is money in failing?

    Unlikely.

    There is usually a prospectus director get paid from that, staff get >>>>> paid from ticket sales, the Aircraft are American rentals.

    I doubt if the population of Australia can support more than one >>>>> local
    carrier without Government subsidies?

    AFAIK Qantas and Virgin aren't subsidized except on some remote >>>> regional
    routes.
    Possibly some Rex regional routes are subsidized

    Seems they are all running on fumes,
    Dodgey economics at best
    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/qantas-posts-fall-in-its-post-tax-profit-to-1-25-billion/104271934>
    https://t.ly/mwhxv
    Qantas has recorded a 28 per cent fall in its post-tax profit to $1.25
    billion in the 2024 financial year.
    Chief executive Vanessa Hudson said the airline's focus this year has
    been getting the "balance right in delivering for customers, employees
    and shareholders".

    I read that.
    They pissed off a lot of former loyal customers, its not going to be
    easy to win those back.

    What's next?

    Things may get better for Qantas now that the Leprechaun has gone, he>> seemed to go out of his way to piss off employees and customers which is
    no way to run a business if you want it be around for a long time.

    Used to always fly QANTAS till the Leprechaun appeared
    QANTAS offended me straight away with booking on QANTAS then expected
    to boar Jetstar.
    I suspect if Jestar is to remain that is what needs improving
    IMO best shod of it!
    Try that again in english when not completely blotto
    Jetstat allows Qantas to fly much more cheaply
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