• Re: Wordpad : a keyboard version of replace-and-find-next ?

    From R.Wieser@address@is.invalid to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Mar 19 08:28:17 2026
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    Rod,

    Each of the buttons on the 'Replace' dialog has one underlined letter.

    I know. But imagine the sequence of (special) keystrokes if the found text needs to be modified (not replaced).

    * Use a special key combo to switch from the "replace" dialog to the text
    * Edit the text.
    * Use a special key combo to switch back to the "replace" dialog.
    * Press the ctrl-H combo for next occurence

    In the case of searching its, after dismissing the "find" dialog, just two steps :

    * Edit the text
    * Press F3 for next occurence

    "For some reason or another" I would like to replace the first list with something similar to the last one.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From dillinger@dillinger@invalid.not to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Mar 19 11:02:50 2026
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    Op 19/03/2026 om 08:28 schreef R.Wieser:
    Rod,

    Each of the buttons on the 'Replace' dialog has one underlined letter.

    I know. But imagine the sequence of (special) keystrokes if the found text needs to be modified (not replaced).

    * Use a special key combo to switch from the "replace" dialog to the text
    * Edit the text.
    * Use a special key combo to switch back to the "replace" dialog.
    * Press the ctrl-H combo for next occurence

    In the case of searching its, after dismissing the "find" dialog, just two steps :

    * Edit the text
    * Press F3 for next occurence

    "For some reason or another" I would like to replace the first list with something similar to the last one.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser



    If you first copy your "new" text to the clipboard you can use F3 and
    Ctrl-V to search and replace, after dismissing the "find" dialog.
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Mar 19 19:20:37 2026
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    On 3/18/2026 6:30 PM, R.Wieser wrote:
    Hello all,

    While working with Wordpad, I came to the realisation that, after having started a seach/replce thru the dialog, while F3 searches the next match, I have no idea what the key for replace-and-find-next-match would be.
    ... that is, if it exists.
    It's CTRL+H !!

    Move the mouse cursor to hover above [Replace], wait a second, and the
    hot-key (called tool-tip) will be displayed.
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  • From R.Wieser@address@is.invalid to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Mar 19 12:39:30 2026
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    Mr. Man-wai Chang,

    While working with Wordpad, I came to the realisation that, after having
    started a seach/replce thru the dialog, while F3 searches the next match, >> I
    have no idea what the key for replace-and-find-next-match would be.
    ... that is, if it exists.
    It's CTRL+H !!

    Alas no, it isn't.

    Just as F3 only works when the "find" dialog has been closed, CTRLl-H only works when the "replace" dialog is open *and* focussed.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From R.Wieser@address@is.invalid to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Mar 19 12:54:48 2026
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    dillinger,

    If you first copy your "new" text to the clipboard you can use F3 and
    Ctrl-V to search and replace

    I was wondering how long it would take for someone to come up with that one. :-)

    Yes, that works - somewhat. You need to remember to copy the "new" text ito the clipboard (even though it was already provided in the "replace"
    dialog"), and every replace needs three keys, which means you're
    bunny-hopping over the keyboard, using two hands. Compare that to the easyness of just having to press F3. :-|

    (why the {bad word} couldn't they have stuck the replace-and-find-next under (perhaps) Shift-F3 ?)

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Mar 19 23:54:15 2026
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    On 3/19/2026 7:39 PM, R.Wieser wrote:
    Mr. Man-wai Chang,

    Just as F3 only works when the "find" dialog has been closed, CTRLl-H only works when the "replace" dialog is open *and* focussed.

    No, it works, but make sure the cursor is in the text, that is when the
    edit window is activated or in focus (technically speaking).

    Just type something, then click on a letter, press CTRL+H.
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Mar 19 23:58:54 2026
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    On 3/19/2026 11:54 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 3/19/2026 7:39 PM, R.Wieser wrote:
    Mr. Man-wai Chang,

    Just as F3 only works when the "find" dialog has been closed, CTRLl-H only >> works when the "replace" dialog is open *and* focussed.

    No, it works, but make sure the cursor is in the text, that is when the
    edit window is activated or in focus (technically speaking).

    Just type something, then click on a letter, press CTRL+H.


    When you just open Wordpad, the focus is in the menu, not the
    text-editing box. I agree it's not very logical for a hotkey not working
    no matter what the focus is.
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  • From R.Wieser@address@is.invalid to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Mar 19 19:24:34 2026
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    Mr. Man-wai Chang,

    Just as F3 only works when the "find" dialog has been closed,

    CTRLl-H only works when the "replace" dialog is open *and* focussed.

    No, it works, but make sure the cursor is in the text, that is when the
    edit window is activated or in focus (technically speaking).

    My bad.

    As I was asking about *how to continue* a search-and-replace from the
    keyboard, I mis-read it as being the "replace" dialog buttons shortcut-key (CTRL-R to be exact).

    Yes, CTRL-H does pop-up the "replace" dialog. Thats not the issue.

    What is, is that I can't find a key/key-combo that will repeat, when the "replace" dialog has been closed, a replace-and-search-next-match, just like F3 will repeat a search-next-match.

    [from your next post]

    When you just open Wordpad, the focus is in the menu, not the
    text-editing box.

    Than your worpad is different from mine, as mine focusses the text-editing
    box (the cursor is blinking, I can directly type stuff, etc).

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Mar 20 11:59:02 2026
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    On 3/20/2026 2:24 AM, R.Wieser wrote:

    Yes, CTRL-H does pop-up the "replace" dialog. Thats not the issue.

    What is, is that I can't find a key/key-combo that will repeat, when the "replace" dialog has been closed, a replace-and-search-next-match, just like F3 will repeat a search-next-match.
    With the Replace dialogue window active, press ALT+R for "_R_eplace"!

    How to do the same *without* the Replace windows closd? Google for it,
    maybe with A.I.!

    I don't use Wordpad that often for so many decades. :)
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Mar 20 12:00:15 2026
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    On 3/20/2026 11:59 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    How to do the same *without* the Replace windows closd? Google for it,
    maybe with A.I.!
    Correction:

    How to do the same *without* the Replace window? Google for it, maybe
    with A.I.!
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  • From R.Wieser@address@is.invalid to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Mar 20 10:17:42 2026
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    Mr. Man-wai Chang,

    F3 will repeat a search-next-match.

    With the Replace dialogue window active, press ALT+R for "_R_eplace"!

    With the Replace dialog showing *and* focussed CTRL-R will work.

    I'm sorry to say that ALT-R doesn't work ever for me (I just tried). Not
    whe the Replace dialog is showing and focussed, not when its showing but un-focussed, not after it has been closed.

    How to do the same *without* the Replace windows closd?

    I do not need to know that. I just gave it as an example of how F3 works
    (for the Find Dialog).

    I will already be quite happy when I can repeat a replace after the Replace dialog has been closed.

    Google for it,

    I (ofcourse?) did that before posting my question here. I found nothing of the kind.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Mar 20 21:18:51 2026
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    On 3/20/2026 5:17 PM, R.Wieser wrote:

    I'm sorry to say that ALT-R doesn't work ever for me (I just tried). Not
    whe the Replace dialog is showing and focussed, not when its showing but un-focussed, not after it has been closed.
    It's strange that Micro$oft didn't use F3 to repeat find-and-replace
    just like find. Maybe M$ considered Wordpad a dead project. Dunno!
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  • From R.Wieser@address@is.invalid to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Mar 20 15:11:18 2026
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    Mr. Man-wai Chang,

    It's strange that Micro$oft didn't use F3 to repeat find-and-replace just like find. Maybe M$ considered Wordpad a dead project. Dunno!

    Not that strange. F3 would be the replace-dialogs version of Ctrl-F. Its just Ctrl-R that doesn't have a similar key.

    Maybe M$ considered Wordpad a dead project. Dunno!

    There are quite a few things they didn't do or did I've got my questions about. Probably will never have an answer to them either. :-)

    ... like why notepad can search upward, but write/wordpad can't. Especially when the EM_FINDTEXT(EX) message/function doing the actual searching doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Mar 20 14:32:56 2026
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    On 2026/3/20 14:11:18, R.Wieser wrote:
    Mr. Man-wai Chang,

    It's strange that Micro$oft didn't use F3 to repeat find-and-replace just >> like find. Maybe M$ considered Wordpad a dead project. Dunno!

    Not that strange. F3 would be the replace-dialogs version of Ctrl-F. Its just Ctrl-R that doesn't have a similar key.

    Maybe M$ considered Wordpad a dead project. Dunno!

    There are quite a few things they didn't do or did I've got my questions about. Probably will never have an answer to them either. :-)

    I would suspect by now it is indeed a dead project - probably (at least
    some of) the software authors will have retired, or even died, by now.

    ... like why notepad can search upward, but write/wordpad can't. Especially when the EM_FINDTEXT(EX) message/function doing the actual searching doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    Yes, the lack of ability to change direction of search, in other things,
    is sad. (Though it has a disconcerting ability to _remember_ the
    direction! I've sometimes been in a file I _know_ contains the string
    I'm looking for, and am at the top of the document and it isn't finding
    it, then I notice it's set to Up!)

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  • From R.Wieser@address@is.invalid to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Mar 20 19:03:07 2026
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    Mr. Man-wai Chang,

    I think both Wordstar 4(DOS) and Vi Editor(Unix) can search backward. Not 100% sure!! :)

    Norton Editor (v1.3b, 1986), which I'm still using almost daily, allows reversal of the search direction at will (different "continue search next"
    and "continue search previous" keystrokes).

    For replacements it can do that in either direction, but will than continue
    in that direction.

    Yep, a rather nice flat text-editor - even if its already 40 years old.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sat Mar 21 13:26:30 2026
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    On 2026/3/20 18:3:7, R.Wieser wrote:
    Mr. Man-wai Chang,

    I think both Wordstar 4(DOS) and Vi Editor(Unix) can search backward. Not >> 100% sure!! :)

    Norton Editor (v1.3b, 1986), which I'm still using almost daily, allows reversal of the search direction at will (different "continue search next" and "continue search previous" keystrokes).

    For replacements it can do that in either direction, but will than continue in that direction.

    Yep, a rather nice flat text-editor - even if its already 40 years old.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


    At least one something I've used - I think it might be _some_ aspects of
    Word - won't _change_ direction, but does wrap around when it gets to
    the end of the document, starting again at the beginning - and stopping
    when it gets to where it started. I mention that last because I've
    remembered that Edge (and IIRR Chrome) do it too, but _don't_ stop.
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  • From R.Wieser@address@is.invalid to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sat Mar 21 16:10:31 2026
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    John,

    I mention that last because I've remembered that Edge (and IIRR Chrome)
    do it too, but _don't_ stop.

    I'm assuming those do not offer a "replace all" choice, or if they do make
    it a special case. It would be no fun when trying to change (for example) a single dash into two of them, only to have the program crash ...

    It would be a rather "clbuttic" mistake. :-)

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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  • From J. P. Gilliver@G6JPG@255soft.uk to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sat Mar 21 18:24:14 2026
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    On 2026/3/21 15:10:31, R.Wieser wrote:
    John,

    I mention that last because I've remembered that Edge (and IIRR Chrome)
    do it too, but _don't_ stop.

    I'm assuming those do not offer a "replace all" choice, or if they do make it a special case. It would be no fun when trying to change (for example) a single dash into two of them, only to have the program crash ...

    It would be a rather "clbuttic" mistake. :-)

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


    I'm talking about the just "find" function in Edge and Chrome - they
    don't offer editing facilities, at least not when just viewing webpages.
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  • From R.Wieser@address@is.invalid to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sun Mar 22 08:02:05 2026
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    John,

    I'm assuming those do not offer a "replace all" choice, or if they do
    make
    it a special case. It would be no fun when trying to change (for
    example)
    a single dash into two of them, only to have the program crash ...
    ...
    I'm talking about the just "find" function in Edge and Chrome - they
    don't offer editing facilities, at least not when just viewing webpages.

    Ah, thataway. Yes, FireFox does the same - even in its "view page source" mode. In fact, I got (again) caught out by it yesterday. :-( :-)

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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