• Teeth

    From richard@richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) to alt.usage.english on Tue Sep 22 23:16:22 2026
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    If the toothbrush was invented today, it would be called a teethbrush.

    -- Richard
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  • From Hibou@vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid to alt.usage.english on Wed Sep 23 08:28:02 2026
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    Le 23/09/2026 |a 00:16, Richard Tobin a |-crit :

    If the toothbrush was invented today, it would be called a teethbrush.


    Why so?

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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Wed Sep 23 10:46:03 2026
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    On 23/09/2026 01:16, Richard Tobin wrote:

    If the toothbrush was invented today, it would be called a teethbrush.

    Well, yes. With better dental hygiene these days, we do keep more of
    them than we used to.
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  • From Peter Moylan@peter@pmoylan.org to alt.usage.english on Wed Sep 23 21:07:54 2026
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    On 23/09/26 17:28, Hibou wrote:
    Le 23/09/2026 |a 00:16, Richard Tobin a |-crit :

    If the toothbrush was invented today, it would be called a teethbrush.

    Why so?

    I heard it on my earsphone.
    --
    Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
    Newcastle, NSW
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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Wed Sep 23 14:06:38 2026
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    On 23/09/2026 13:07, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 23/09/26 17:28, Hibou wrote:
    Le 23/09/2026 |a 00:16, Richard Tobin a |-crit :

    If the toothbrush was invented today, it would be called a teethbrush.

    Why so?

    I heard it on my earsphone.


    Or even saw it with my own eyesglasses.

    The truth is that Richard may be right. If invented today, a toothbrush
    would be a "dental hygiene system appliance" (TM)
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  • From Hibou@vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid to alt.usage.english on Wed Sep 23 14:28:42 2026
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    Le 23/09/2026 |a 13:06, occam a |-crit :

    The truth is that Richard may be right. If invented today, a toothbrush
    would be a "dental hygiene system appliance" (TM)


    After the candy floss, the dental floss.

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  • From Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson@johann@myrkraverk.invalid to alt.usage.english on Wed Sep 23 22:14:09 2026
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    On 9/23/2026 9:28 PM, Hibou wrote:
    Le 23/09/2026 |a 13:06, occam a |-crit :

    The truth is that Richard may be right. If invented today, a toothbrush
    would be a "dental hygiene system appliance" (TM)


    After the candy floss, the dental floss.

    It would be /teethbrush/ to comply with official policy of inclusive-
    ness. We can't just name an appliance such that it seems to be only
    usable for one tooth at a time.

    Most customers have more than one tooth, namely teeth, and they would
    indeed feel left out if the /dental hygiene system appliance/ implied
    they could one use it if near toothless.


    Best wishes, and happy dental hygiene in alt.usage.english!
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  • From richard@richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) to alt.usage.english on Wed Sep 23 14:32:37 2026
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    In article <nhhdc3FdrhuU2@mid.individual.net>,
    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

    If the toothbrush was invented today, it would be called a teethbrush.

    Why so?

    Teeth whitening, women teachers, even mice traps. Where a singular
    noun would have been used in what might be considered a plural
    context, in the case of irregular plurals I now see the plural used
    instead.

    -- Richard
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to alt.usage.english on Wed Sep 23 20:02:46 2026
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    On 23/09/2026 15:14, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
    On 9/23/2026 9:28 PM, Hibou wrote:
    Le 23/09/2026 |a 13:06, occam a |-crit :

    The truth is that Richard may be right. If invented today, a toothbrush
    would be a "dental hygiene system appliance" (TM)


    After the candy floss, the dental floss.

    It would be /teethbrush/ to comply with official policy of inclusive-
    ness.-a We can't just name an appliance such that it seems to be only
    usable for one tooth at a time.

    Must gums be forever written out of the script?
    I demand the use of: "Teeth and Gum Brush" with a possible entry for the tongue.>
    Most customers have more than one tooth, namely teeth, and they would
    indeed feel left out if the /dental hygiene system appliance/ implied
    they could one use it if near toothless.


    Best wishes, and happy dental hygiene in alt.usage.english!
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Hibou@vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid to alt.usage.english on Thu Sep 24 06:57:17 2026
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    Le 23/09/2026 |a 15:32, Richard Tobin a |-crit :
    Hibou wrote:
    [...]
    If the toothbrush was invented today, it would be called a teethbrush.

    Why so?

    Teeth whitening, women teachers, even mice traps. Where a singular
    noun would have been used in what might be considered a plural
    context, in the case of irregular plurals I now see the plural used
    instead.


    OK. Let's seerCa

    'Teeth whitening' is about as common as 'tooth whitening':

    <https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=teeth+whitening%2Ctooth+whitening&year_start=1950&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=false>

    'Female teachers' lost ground to 'women teachers', but is fighting back-|:

    <https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=woman+teacher%2Cfemale+teachers%2Cwoman+teachers%2Cwomen+teachers&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3>

    'Mousetrap' and 'mouse trap' are much commoner than 'micetrap' and 'mice trap':

    <https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=mousetrap%2Cmicetrap%2Cmouse+trap%2Cmice+trap&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3>

    Perhaps people are ignorant of the rule. Alas, the written language is
    no longer controlled by those who know something about it.


    -|Good! I hate to see adjectives queueing at the Job Centre when
    aggressive nouns have stolen their jobs. They, at least, have the
    decency not to inflect in the plural.

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  • From Snidely@snidely.too@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Thu Sep 24 00:52:54 2026
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    On Wednesday or thereabouts, Hibou blurted ...

    Perhaps people are ignorant of the rule. Alas, the written language is no longer controlled by those who know something about it.

    It hardly ever has been, despite repeated attempts. Not to mention
    attempts by people who /think/ they know something about it.

    /dps
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    Rule #0: Don't be on fire.
    In case of fire, exit the building before tweeting about it.
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  • From richard@richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) to alt.usage.english on Wed Sep 30 19:34:47 2026
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    In article <118v286$88kn$1@artemis.inf.ed.ac.uk>, I wrote:

    If the toothbrush was invented today, it would be called a teethbrush.

    And now I see a headline with "teethmarks". What next, feetprints?

    -- Richard
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