• Melody, Harmony, Rhythm - a Holy Trinity?

    From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Sun Sep 20 09:55:58 2026
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    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC
    R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just
    to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John
    Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music
    as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    Discuss.

    Sources:

    https://www.coltranechurch.org/

    Also

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Coltrane


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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to alt.usage.english on Sun Sep 20 10:04:31 2026
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    On Sun, 20 Sep 2026 09:55:58 +0200
    occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:


    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC
    R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just
    to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John
    Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music
    as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    The forth horseman is Discord.

    Discuss.

    Sources:

    https://www.coltranechurch.org/

    Also

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Coltrane


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  • From Johann \@johann@myrkraverk.invalid to alt.usage.english on Sun Sep 20 18:06:34 2026
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    On 9/20/2026 5:04 PM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Sep 2026 09:55:58 +0200
    occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:


    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC
    R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just
    to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John
    Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music
    as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    The forth horseman is Discord.


    I take it you're talking about the instant messaging platform? I have
    since earlier this year, completely left all of it. I am happier for
    it, and wish everyone a great discexodus.
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  • From Hibou@vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid to alt.usage.english on Sun Sep 20 11:33:09 2026
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    Le 20/09/2026 |a 10:04, Kerr-Mudd, John a |-crit :
    occam wrote:

    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC
    R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just
    to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John
    Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music
    as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    The forth horseman is Discord.


    Aha! A Revelation! So the Holy Trinity is like the Three Musketeers.
    There are really four of them.

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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to alt.usage.english on Sun Sep 20 13:50:58 2026
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    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

    Le 20/09/2026 a 10:04, Kerr-Mudd, John a ocrit :
    occam wrote:

    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC
    R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just
    to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John
    Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music
    as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    The forth horseman is Discord.


    Aha! A Revelation! So the Holy Trinity is like the Three Musketeers.
    There are really four of them.

    The fourth one has been found under a church floor near Maastricht.
    (maybe, or not)
    There is quite a row about it,

    Jan


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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Sun Sep 20 14:49:52 2026
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    On 20/09/2026 13:50, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

    Le 20/09/2026 |a 10:04, Kerr-Mudd, John a |-crit :
    occam wrote:

    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC >>>> R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just >>>> to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John
    Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music >>>> as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    The forth horseman is Discord.


    Aha! A Revelation! So the Holy Trinity is like the Three Musketeers.
    There are really four of them.

    The fourth one has been found under a church floor near Maastricht.
    (maybe, or not)
    There is quite a row about it,


    Who is it supposed to be? In the Christian hierarchy, Holy Mary is the
    fourth in line to the throne (a.k.a. Panagia). But I don't think she
    ever made her way to Holland.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panagia
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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to alt.usage.english on Sun Sep 20 16:20:32 2026
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    occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:

    On 20/09/2026 13:50, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

    Le 20/09/2026 a 10:04, Kerr-Mudd, John a ocrit :
    occam wrote:

    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC >>>> R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just >>>> to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John >>>> Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music >>>> as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    The forth horseman is Discord.


    Aha! A Revelation! So the Holy Trinity is like the Three Musketeers.
    There are really four of them.

    The fourth one has been found under a church floor near Maastricht.
    (maybe, or not)
    There is quite a row about it,


    Who is it supposed to be?

    D'Artagnan himself.

    In the Christian hierarchy, Holy Mary is the
    fourth in line to the throne (a.k.a. Panagia). But I don't think she
    ever made her way to Holland.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panagia

    He was popularly called the fourth musketeer,
    but was the first one, really, in musketeer hierarchy.
    Unfortunately for him the Dutch State troopers confronting him
    were better at musketeering, and they shot him, fatally so,

    Jan





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  • From Steve Hayes@hayesstw@telkomsa.net to alt.usage.english on Sun Sep 20 16:44:04 2026
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    On Sun, 20 Sep 2026 09:55:58 +0200, occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:


    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC
    R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just
    to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John
    Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music
    as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    Discuss.

    That musicians use musical analogies should not be surprising.
    --
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to alt.usage.english on Sun Sep 20 19:17:42 2026
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    On 20/09/2026 08:55, occam wrote:

    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC
    R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just
    to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John
    Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music
    as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    Discuss.

    Javelin and Shot put.

    (Hammer for extra points)
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Snidely@snidely.too@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Sun Sep 20 13:24:24 2026
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    Remember Sunday, when Sam Plusnet asked plaintively:
    On 20/09/2026 08:55, occam wrote:

    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC
    R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just
    to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John
    Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music
    as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    Discuss.

    Javelin and Shot put.

    (Hammer for extra points)

    Shouldn't that be "Javelins and Shots put", since occam used a plural
    of discus?

    /dps
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    she bills hourly for years"
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to alt.usage.english on Sun Sep 20 23:51:30 2026
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    On 20/09/2026 21:24, Snidely wrote:
    Remember-a Sunday, when-a Sam Plusnet asked plaintively:
    On 20/09/2026 08:55, occam wrote:

    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC
    R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just
    to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John
    Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music
    as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    Discuss.

    Javelin and Shot put.

    (Hammer for extra points)

    Shouldn't that be "Javelins and Shots put", since occam used a plural of discus?

    I understand the proper method involves only putting one shot at a time[1].

    Back in the days of wooden warships, some used the technique of "double shotting" but there was a very real risk of the cannon exploding.

    [1] It's around 60 years since I last engaged in this 'sport', so things
    could have changed in the mean time.
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Hibou@vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid to alt.usage.english on Mon Sep 21 06:57:52 2026
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    Le 20/09/2026 |a 15:20, J. J. Lodder a |-crit :
    occam wrote:
    On 20/09/2026 13:50, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    The fourth one has been found under a church floor near Maastricht.
    (maybe, or not)
    There is quite a row about it,

    Who is it supposed to be?

    D'Artagnan himself.

    In the Christian hierarchy, Holy Mary is the
    fourth in line to the throne (a.k.a. Panagia). But I don't think she
    ever made her way to Holland.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panagia

    He was popularly called the fourth musketeer,
    but was the first one, really, in musketeer hierarchy.


    Oh no. That was M. de Tr|-ville.

    Unfortunately for him the Dutch State troopers confronting him
    were better at musketeering, and they shot him, fatally so,


    A plurality of Dutch troopers against a singular musketeer? Sounds
    uneven. Tous contre un, un contre tous. Am I making ze moue? If you
    could see me, you'd know that I am.

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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to alt.usage.english on Mon Sep 21 15:05:09 2026
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    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

    On 20/09/2026 21:24, Snidely wrote:
    Remember Sunday, when Sam Plusnet asked plaintively:
    On 20/09/2026 08:55, occam wrote:

    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC >>> R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just >>> to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John
    Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music >>> as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    Discuss.

    Javelin and Shot put.

    (Hammer for extra points)

    Shouldn't that be "Javelins and Shots put", since occam used a plural of discus?

    I understand the proper method involves only putting one shot at a time[1].

    Back in the days of wooden warships, some used the technique of "double shotting" but there was a very real risk of the cannon exploding.

    That's doing it all wrong.
    You should let them Froggies have 'a whiff of grape' instead,

    Jan
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to alt.usage.english on Mon Sep 21 20:46:03 2026
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    On 21/09/2026 14:05, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

    On 20/09/2026 21:24, Snidely wrote:
    Remember Sunday, when Sam Plusnet asked plaintively:
    On 20/09/2026 08:55, occam wrote:

    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC >>>>> R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just >>>>> to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John >>>>> Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music >>>>> as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    Discuss.

    Javelin and Shot put.

    (Hammer for extra points)

    Shouldn't that be "Javelins and Shots put", since occam used a plural of >>> discus?

    I understand the proper method involves only putting one shot at a time[1]. >>
    Back in the days of wooden warships, some used the technique of "double
    shotting" but there was a very real risk of the cannon exploding.

    That's doing it all wrong.
    You should let them Froggies have 'a whiff of grape' instead,

    Beaujolais tr|?s nouveau? That sort of grape?
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to alt.usage.english on Mon Sep 21 21:22:55 2026
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    On Sun, 20 Sep 2026 19:17:42 +0100
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

    On 20/09/2026 08:55, occam wrote:

    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC
    R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just
    to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music
    as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    Discuss.

    Javelin and Shot put.

    (Hammer for extra points)


    You're only a hop skip and a jump away from a erm Sexathlon.
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to alt.usage.english on Tue Sep 22 14:02:27 2026
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    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

    On 21/09/2026 14:05, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

    On 20/09/2026 21:24, Snidely wrote:
    Remember Sunday, when Sam Plusnet asked plaintively:
    On 20/09/2026 08:55, occam wrote:

    I'm not normally taken aback when listening to religious programs (BBC >>>>> R4, 'Sunday'). I listen to (any) BBC radio program in the morning, just >>>>> to wake up. The following made me sit up.

    The double whammy came from one congregant of the Church of St. John >>>>> Coltrane who described Coltrane's (an American jazz saxophonist) music >>>>> as a religious experience. The parallel he drew was with the Holy
    Trinity - Melody, Harmony, Rhythm.

    Discuss.

    Javelin and Shot put.

    (Hammer for extra points)

    Shouldn't that be "Javelins and Shots put", since occam used a plural of >>> discus?

    I understand the proper method involves only putting one shot at a time[1].

    Back in the days of wooden warships, some used the technique of "double
    shotting" but there was a very real risk of the cannon exploding.

    That's doing it all wrong.
    You should let them Froggies have 'a whiff of grape' instead,

    Beaujolais tr*s nouveau? That sort of grape?

    No. Not enough lead in it,

    Jan

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