• To dag.

    From Aidan Kehoe@kehoea@parhasard.net to alt.usage.english on Sun Aug 16 17:55:13 2026
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    A word from my childhood came up this yesterday; dagging, to dag, to cut off rCLa
    lock of sheeprCOs wool matted with dirt or excrement, esp. from around its hindquartersrCY. No clear etymology in the OED. The word had a more refined sense
    previously:

    rCL1. 1399rCo1617
    rCa A pendant pointed portion of anything; one of the pointed or laciniated
    divisions made by deeply slashing or cutting the lower margin of a cloak,
    gown, or other garment, as was done for ornament in the 15th cent. Obsolete.
    2. c1400rCo1616
    rCa A tag or aglet of a lace, shoe-latchet, or the like; = aglet n. 1, 2
    Obsolete.rCY

    I was entertained to learn that New Zealanders say rCLrattle your dagsrCY to encourage someone to leave quickly, in allusion to the noise that sheeprCOs dags
    make when they run.
    --
    rCyAs I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
    How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stoutrCO
    (C. Moore)
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  • From Bertel Lund Hansen@rundtosset@lundhansen.dk to alt.usage.english on Sun Aug 16 19:16:37 2026
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    Den 16.08.2026 kl. 18.55 skrev Aidan Kehoe:

    rCL1. 1399rCo1617
    rCa A pendant pointed portion of anything; one of the pointed or laciniated
    divisions made by deeply slashing or cutting the lower margin of a cloak,
    gown, or other garment, as was done for ornament in the 15th cent. Obsolete.
    2. c1400rCo1616

    I thought that the idea of cutting op jeans was quite new, but here I
    see that it is as old as Methusalem.
    --
    Bertel, Kolt, Danmark

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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to alt.usage.english on Sun Aug 16 20:34:28 2026
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    On 16/08/2026 18:16, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
    Den 16.08.2026 kl. 18.55 skrev Aidan Kehoe:

    -a-a rCL1. 1399rCo1617
    -a-a rCa A pendant pointed portion of anything; one of the pointed or
    laciniated
    -a-a divisions made by deeply slashing or cutting the lower margin of a
    cloak,
    -a-a gown, or other garment, as was done for ornament in the 15th cent.
    Obsolete.
    -a-a 2. c1400rCo1616

    I thought that the idea of cutting op jeans was quite new, but here I
    see that it is as old as Methusalem.

    But all too often those cuts seem quite regular - hardly "laciniated".

    (Thank you Aidan for introducing that word, I shall attempt to treasure it.)
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Peter Moylan@peter@pmoylan.org to alt.usage.english on Mon Aug 17 08:22:19 2026
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    On 17/08/26 02:55, Aidan Kehoe wrote:

    A word from my childhood came up this yesterday; dagging, to dag, to cut off rCLa
    lock of sheeprCOs wool matted with dirt or excrement, esp. from around its hindquartersrCY. No clear etymology in the OED.

    The noun dag is well-known in Australia, but I'm not familiar with it as
    a verb. As well as the meaning known to sheep farmers, we can describe a
    person as a dag. Not a compliment.

    Spotted in the toilet of a highway service station:

    Here I sit, the same old caper
    Daggy arse and no shit-paper
    Miles to go, I cannot linger
    Fuck it all, I'll use my finger.
    --
    Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
    Newcastle, NSW
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