• [OT] Damp squib

    From Hibou@vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 06:33:38 2026
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    Endless talk in the media, especially the French, about the eclipse
    yesterday. France 2's evening news was longer than usual, a whole hour,
    and spoke of nothing else. It was cloudy here - of course! - though did
    clear for a couple of minutes. A quickly-made pinhole camera showed a
    tiny nibbled disc. Ha bumbug!

    Also unimpressive viewed thus:

    <https://pic.infini.fr/V6g1Hsw6/z2moID66.png> (link valid 15 days)

    This shows the dip in solar power generation in the UK. It was evening,
    so it was already tailing off to nothing. The dip at 7 p.m. is 0.55 GW,
    the little peak at 7.30, 0.86 GW, and the maximum at 1 p.m., 13.53 GW.

    "Britain's biggest energy supplier, Octopus Energy, has urged customers
    to use less electricity during the eclipse. / The company says when the
    moon covers the sun 'a huge chunk of Britain's solar power will be
    knocked out - just as millions of people are getting home and
    electricity demand spikes.' [... and yet ...] Operators in France, Spain
    and Britain said they are expecting no disruption, in part because the
    eclipse will occur in the evening, when solar power is lower" - <https://news.sky.com/story/use-less-electricity-during-solar-eclipse-uks-biggest-energy-supplier-urges-customers-13571916>

    It looks as if Octopus made this announcement just to obtain publicity.

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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 07:53:01 2026
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    On 13/08/2026 07:33, Hibou wrote:
    Endless talk in the media, especially the French, about the eclipse yesterday. France 2's evening news was longer than usual, a whole hour,
    and spoke of nothing else. It was cloudy here - of course! - though did
    clear for a couple of minutes. A quickly-made pinhole camera showed a
    tiny nibbled disc. Ha bumbug!

    Also unimpressive viewed thus:

    <https://pic.infini.fr/V6g1Hsw6/z2moID66.png> (link valid 15 days)

    This shows the dip in solar power generation in the UK. It was evening,
    so it was already tailing off to nothing. The dip at 7 p.m. is 0.55 GW,
    the little peak at 7.30, 0.86 GW, and the maximum at 1 p.m., 13.53 GW.

    "Britain's biggest energy supplier, Octopus Energy, has urged customers
    to use less electricity during the eclipse. / The company says when the
    moon covers the sun 'a huge chunk of Britain's solar power will be
    knocked out - just as millions of people are getting home and
    electricity demand spikes.' [... and yet ...] Operators in France, Spain
    and Britain said they are expecting no disruption, in part because the eclipse will occur in the evening, when solar power is lower" - <https://news.sky.com/story/use-less-electricity-during-solar-eclipse- uks-biggest-energy-supplier-urges-customers-13571916>

    It looks as if Octopus made this announcement just to obtain publicity.


    What I am more interested in - as a photon farmer myself - can I write
    off my loss of revenue against my taxes? (I estimate a whole 0.06 cents
    worth of income lost.) Or is an eclipse "an act of God"?
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  • From Peter Moylan@peter@pmoylan.org to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 16:19:12 2026
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    On 13/08/26 15:53, occam wrote:

    What I am more interested in - as a photon farmer myself - can I
    write off my loss of revenue against my taxes? (I estimate a whole
    0.06 cents worth of income lost.) Or is an eclipse "an act of God"?

    An eclipse is predictable. An act of God is not.

    (Neither is an act of Trump, something the insurance companies are going
    to notice sooner of later.)
    --
    Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org
    Newcastle, NSW
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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 08:58:09 2026
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    On 13/08/2026 08:19, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 13/08/26 15:53, occam wrote:

    What I am more interested in - as a photon farmer myself --a can I
    write off my loss of revenue against my taxes?-a (I estimate a whole
    0.06 cents worth of income lost.)-a Or is an eclipse "an act of God"?

    An eclipse is predictable. An act of God is not.

    (Neither is an act of Trump, something the insurance companies are going
    to notice sooner of later.)


    Oh, I think the shipping insurance companies have already noticed. Do
    you recall the stop-start kerfuffle over the Mosul blockade after the
    signing of the Memorandum of Agreement? Apparently the insurance
    companies were not as convinced as MAGA fans that Trump's mood would not
    flip. Hence they did not immediately authorise insurance for the ships
    waiting to cross the Strait. Very few got through.
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  • From Blueshirt@blueshirt@indigo.news to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 08:10:48 2026
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    Hibou wrote:

    Endless talk in the media, especially the French, about the
    eclipse yesterday. France 2's evening news was longer than
    usual, a whole hour, and spoke of nothing else. It was cloudy
    here - of course! - though did clear for a couple of minutes.
    A quickly-made pinhole camera showed a tiny nibbled disc. Ha
    bumbug!

    You are not alone. Some others also thought the eclipse thing
    was a bit of a damp squib...


    https://youtube.com/shorts/_52AIdQoFyQ?si=PzOCq1TuCqShYzcS
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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 10:17:34 2026
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    On 13/08/2026 10:10, Blueshirt wrote:
    Hibou wrote:

    Endless talk in the media, especially the French, about the
    eclipse yesterday. France 2's evening news was longer than
    usual, a whole hour, and spoke of nothing else. It was cloudy
    here - of course! - though did clear for a couple of minutes.
    A quickly-made pinhole camera showed a tiny nibbled disc. Ha
    bumbug!

    You are not alone. Some others also thought the eclipse thing
    was a bit of a damp squib...


    https://youtube.com/shorts/_52AIdQoFyQ?si=PzOCq1TuCqShYzcS

    That was hilarious!
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  • From richard@richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 09:59:38 2026
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    In article <ne539iF61pgU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

    It looks as if Octopus made this announcement just to obtain publicity.

    No doubt that was their motivation, but the government grid operator
    did issue a warning which they later cancelled.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/aug/12/great-britain-faces-electricity-supply-shortfall-during-solar-eclipse

    -- Richard
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  • From athel.cb@gmail.com@user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 10:18:52 2026
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    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> posted:

    Endless talk in the media, especially the French, about the eclipse yesterday. France 2's evening news was longer than usual, a whole hour,
    and spoke of nothing else. It was cloudy here - of course! - though did clear for a couple of minutes. A quickly-made pinhole camera showed a
    tiny nibbled disc. Ha bumbug!

    I was quite surprised that France 2 was planning to devote an hour to this, but we didn't see any of it. We thought it would be more interesting to see the eclipse. Our first thought was to go to the beach, but that would have been a very bad idea. We talked to someone who had done that, and found that it was almost impossible to find a place to park; that there were about 5000 people with the same idea; that there was nowhere to sit down if you did make it to the beach.

    Instead we went to the Corbusier building, about 8 minutes walk from where we live. We didn't walk, as I'm getting too old for that, but took the car. It
    was easy to park, because many of the residents are on holiday with their cars. We went to the restaurant (Le Ventre de l'Architecte -- the Architect's Tummy, not a name I would have chosen if I were opening a restaurant). It was closed, because the chef is on holiday, but the bar was open, and that was a good thing, because there were very few people there, and no difficulty about finding
    a table on the balcony to sit with two glasses of beer.

    So, what about the spectacle of the century? No clouds, clear sky. Not quite total, but 96% at the maximum. We had glasses that came with Paris Match this week -- not a magazine we normally buy, but we did this week for the glasses. Without them we'd have just seen the usual sun approaching sunset. I was surprised at how ordinary it looked without the glasses, with a full disk
    even at the maximum. After that it sank slowly and set near the Ch|oteau d'If. Not the most overwhelming spectable of my life, but I'm glad we saw it.
    --
    athel

    Living in Marseilles for 39 years; mainly in England before that,
    with long periods in Singapore, California, Chile and Canada
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  • From Hibou@vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 14:51:07 2026
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    Le 13/08/2026 |a 11:18, athel.cb@gmail.com a |-crit :

    [...] Instead we went to the Corbusier building, about 8 minutes walk from where we
    live. We didn't walk, as I'm getting too old for that, but took the car. It was easy to park, because many of the residents are on holiday with their cars.
    We went to the restaurant (Le Ventre de l'Architecte -- the Architect's Tummy,
    not a name I would have chosen if I were opening a restaurant). It was closed,
    because the chef is on holiday, but the bar was open, and that was a good thing, because there were very few people there, and no difficulty about finding
    a table on the balcony to sit with two glasses of beer.

    So, what about the spectacle of the century? No clouds, clear sky. Not quite total, but 96% at the maximum. We had glasses that came with Paris Match this week -- not a magazine we normally buy, but we did this week for the glasses. Without them we'd have just seen the usual sun approaching sunset. I was surprised at how ordinary it looked without the glasses, with a full disk even at the maximum. After that it sank slowly and set near the Ch|oteau d'If.
    Not the most overwhelming spectable of my life, but I'm glad we saw it.


    That sounds much better.

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  • From wollman@wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 14:43:20 2026
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    In article <ne539iF61pgU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

    This shows the dip in solar power generation in the UK. It was evening,
    so it was already tailing off to nothing. The dip at 7 p.m. is 0.55 GW,
    the little peak at 7.30, 0.86 GW, and the maximum at 1 p.m., 13.53 GW.

    Our grid operator here put out a press release saying that the partial
    eclipse (since we were well outside the path of totality) was not
    expected to have any effect on the power system -- unlike the April,
    2024, total eclipse, which occurred in mid-afternoon. They wrote a
    press release about that, too: <https://isonewswire.com/2024/04/09/new-england-power-grid-reliable-throughout-eclipse/>.

    -GAWollman
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  • From Steve Hayes@hayesstw@telkomsa.net to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 16:59:35 2026
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    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 10:18:52 GMT, athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    So, what about the spectacle of the century? No clouds, clear sky. Not quite >total, but 96% at the maximum. We had glasses that came with Paris Match this >week -- not a magazine we normally buy, but we did this week for the glasses. >Without them we'd have just seen the usual sun approaching sunset. I was >surprised at how ordinary it looked without the glasses, with a full disk >even at the maximum. After that it sank slowly and set near the Ch|oteau d'If. >Not the most overwhelming spectable of my life, but I'm glad we saw it.

    There's supposed to be a [;anetary alignment or something this
    evening, and the perseid meteor shower, but I ceebs to put shoes on
    and wrap myslef in a blanket to go outside to look at it.
    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
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  • From Snidely@snidely.too@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 10:12:05 2026
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    On Thursday, Hibou pointed out that ...
    Le 13/08/2026 a 11:18, athel.cb@gmail.com a ocrit :

    [...] Instead we went to the Corbusier building, about 8 minutes walk from >> where we
    live. We didn't walk, as I'm getting too old for that, but took the car. It >> was easy to park, because many of the residents are on holiday with their >> cars.
    We went to the restaurant (Le Ventre de l'Architecte -- the Architect's
    Tummy,
    not a name I would have chosen if I were opening a restaurant). It was
    closed,
    because the chef is on holiday, but the bar was open, and that was a good
    thing, because there were very few people there, and no difficulty about
    finding
    a table on the balcony to sit with two glasses of beer.

    So, what about the spectacle of the century? No clouds, clear sky. Not
    quite
    total, but 96% at the maximum. We had glasses that came with Paris Match
    this
    week -- not a magazine we normally buy, but we did this week for the
    glasses.
    Without them we'd have just seen the usual sun approaching sunset. I was
    surprised at how ordinary it looked without the glasses, with a full disk
    even at the maximum. After that it sank slowly and set near the Chrteau
    d'If.
    Not the most overwhelming spectable of my life, but I'm glad we saw it.


    That sounds much better.

    Based on the reports from the last two US totals, the difference
    between near-total and total is significant (I cannot confirm or deny
    ... I stayed in California for both). Spain appears to be have been
    the place on the Continent to be for this one.

    /dps
    --
    "The only long-term career in sports is 'spectator'."
    Carl, in Bill Holbrook's _Kevin and Kell_
    (Nov 23, 2020)
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  • From Bertel Lund Hansen@rundtosset@lundhansen.dk to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 21:55:58 2026
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    Den 13.08.2026 kl. 19.12 skrev Snidely:

    Without them we'd have just seen the usual sun approaching sunset. I was >>> surprised at how ordinary it looked without the glasses, with a full
    disk
    even at the maximum. After that it sank slowly and set near the
    Ch|oteau d'If.
    Not the most overwhelming spectable of my life, but I'm glad we saw it.


    That sounds much better.

    Based on the reports from the last two US totals, the difference between near-total and total is significant (I cannot confirm or deny ... I
    stayed in California for both).-a Spain appears to be have been the place
    on the Continent to be for this one.

    In Denmark we were promised that 85% would becovered. It was so cloudy
    that I couldn't see it, but the reduction in light was hardly noticeable.
    --
    Bertel, Kolt, Danmark

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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 20:58:44 2026
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    On 13/08/2026 11:18, athel.cb@gmail.com wrote:

    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> posted:

    Endless talk in the media, especially the French, about the eclipse
    yesterday. France 2's evening news was longer than usual, a whole hour,
    and spoke of nothing else. It was cloudy here - of course! - though did
    clear for a couple of minutes. A quickly-made pinhole camera showed a
    tiny nibbled disc. Ha bumbug!

    I was quite surprised that France 2 was planning to devote an hour to this, but
    we didn't see any of it. We thought it would be more interesting to see the eclipse. Our first thought was to go to the beach, but that would have been a very bad idea. We talked to someone who had done that, and found that it was almost impossible to find a place to park; that there were about 5000 people with the same idea; that there was nowhere to sit down if you did make it to the beach.

    Instead we went to the Corbusier building, about 8 minutes walk from where we live. We didn't walk, as I'm getting too old for that, but took the car. It was easy to park, because many of the residents are on holiday with their cars.
    We went to the restaurant (Le Ventre de l'Architecte -- the Architect's Tummy,
    not a name I would have chosen if I were opening a restaurant). It was closed,
    because the chef is on holiday, but the bar was open, and that was a good thing, because there were very few people there, and no difficulty about finding
    a table on the balcony to sit with two glasses of beer.

    So, what about the spectacle of the century? No clouds, clear sky. Not quite total, but 96% at the maximum. We had glasses that came with Paris Match this week -- not a magazine we normally buy, but we did this week for the glasses. Without them we'd have just seen the usual sun approaching sunset. I was surprised at how ordinary it looked without the glasses, with a full disk even at the maximum. After that it sank slowly and set near the Ch|oteau d'If.
    Not the most overwhelming spectable of my life, but I'm glad we saw it.

    Mention of Ch|oteau d'If causes most people to think of The Count of
    Monte Cristo.

    Instead, I was reminded of "Tales of Old Dartmoor" - a Goons Show
    episode where Dartmoor prison sails to the south of France for a holiday
    with the Ch|oteau d'If.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XLlYnKTZlE
    --
    Sam Plusnet
    (Culture takes on many forms)
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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 22:40:28 2026
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    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

    Endless talk in the media, especially the French, about the eclipse yesterday. France 2's evening news was longer than usual, a whole hour,
    and spoke of nothing else. It was cloudy here - of course! - though did
    clear for a couple of minutes. A quickly-made pinhole camera showed a
    tiny nibbled disc. Ha bumbug!

    Also unimpressive viewed thus:

    <https://pic.infini.fr/V6g1Hsw6/z2moID66.png> (link valid 15 days)

    This shows the dip in solar power generation in the UK. It was evening,
    so it was already tailing off to nothing. The dip at 7 p.m. is 0.55 GW,
    the little peak at 7.30, 0.86 GW, and the maximum at 1 p.m., 13.53 GW.

    For much damper and more effective squibs,
    the nuclear power complex at Gravelines,
    (know as Grave Lines to Britons, by olderthread)
    has been forced into a complete shutdown
    by a massive invasion of jellyfish blocking the sea water intakes.
    There are unusually many of them because the sea is exceptionally warm,
    it seems.

    This loses France about 3 GW for days, perhaps one or even two weeks.
    The production of the nuclaire based on rivers has also gone down
    for lack of cooling water.
    The spot price for a MWh has gone up in consequence,

    Jan





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  • From Snidely@snidely.too@gmail.com to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 15:27:38 2026
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    On Thursday, Bertel Lund Hansen queried:
    Den 13.08.2026 kl. 19.12 skrev Snidely:

    Without them we'd have just seen the usual sun approaching sunset. I was >>>> surprised at how ordinary it looked without the glasses, with a full disk >>>> even at the maximum. After that it sank slowly and set near the Ch|oteau >>>> d'If.
    Not the most overwhelming spectable of my life, but I'm glad we saw it. >>>

    That sounds much better.

    Based on the reports from the last two US totals, the difference between
    near-total and total is significant (I cannot confirm or deny ... I stayed >> in California for both).-a Spain appears to be have been the place on the >> Continent to be for this one.

    In Denmark we were promised that 85% would becovered. It was so cloudy that I
    couldn't see it, but the reduction in light was hardly noticeable.

    The eye [1] is too good at autoadjusting. Had you been tracking
    illumination levels with a camera or light meter or solar panel
    monitors, you might have seen the difference.

    [1] Actually, most of that happens in the brain, no?

    /dps
    --
    WerCOve learned way more than we wanted to know about the early history
    of American professional basketball, like that you could have once
    watched a game between teams named the Indianapolis Kautskys and the
    Akron Firestone Non-Skids. -- fivethirtyeight.com
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  • From Rich Ulrich@rich.ulrich@comcast.net to alt.usage.english on Thu Aug 13 20:49:57 2026
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    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 15:27:38 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, Bertel Lund Hansen queried:
    Den 13.08.2026 kl. 19.12 skrev Snidely:

    Without them we'd have just seen the usual sun approaching sunset. I was >>>>> surprised at how ordinary it looked without the glasses, with a full disk >>>>> even at the maximum. After that it sank slowly and set near the Ch|oteau >>>>> d'If.
    Not the most overwhelming spectable of my life, but I'm glad we saw it. >>>>

    That sounds much better.

    Based on the reports from the last two US totals, the difference between >>> near-total and total is significant (I cannot confirm or deny ... I stayed >>> in California for both).-a Spain appears to be have been the place on the >>> Continent to be for this one.

    In Denmark we were promised that 85% would becovered. It was so cloudy that I
    couldn't see it, but the reduction in light was hardly noticeable.

    The eye [1] is too good at autoadjusting. Had you been tracking >illumination levels with a camera or light meter or solar panel
    monitors, you might have seen the difference.

    [1] Actually, most of that happens in the brain, no?

    My recollection is that what the retina reports is in terms of
    ratios of stimuli, comparing nearby rods/cones and also distant
    ones. Thus, absolute levels never get reported to the (distant)
    brain.

    On the other hand, I have seen the retina characterized as
    (effectively?) a part of the brain. Metaphor? - literal, owing
    (even) to similar tissues? I never knew/ I still don't know.
    --
    Rich Ulrich

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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Fri Aug 14 07:48:58 2026
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    On 14/08/2026 02:49, Rich Ulrich wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 15:27:38 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, Bertel Lund Hansen queried:
    Den 13.08.2026 kl. 19.12 skrev Snidely:

    Without them we'd have just seen the usual sun approaching sunset. I was >>>>>> surprised at how ordinary it looked without the glasses, with a full disk
    even at the maximum. After that it sank slowly and set near the Ch|oteau
    d'If.
    Not the most overwhelming spectable of my life, but I'm glad we saw it. >>>>>

    That sounds much better.

    Based on the reports from the last two US totals, the difference between >>>> near-total and total is significant (I cannot confirm or deny ... I stayed
    in California for both).-a Spain appears to be have been the place on the >>>> Continent to be for this one.

    In Denmark we were promised that 85% would becovered. It was so cloudy that I
    couldn't see it, but the reduction in light was hardly noticeable.

    The eye [1] is too good at autoadjusting. Had you been tracking
    illumination levels with a camera or light meter or solar panel
    monitors, you might have seen the difference.

    [1] Actually, most of that happens in the brain, no?

    My recollection is that what the retina reports is in terms of
    ratios of stimuli, comparing nearby rods/cones and also distant
    ones. Thus, absolute levels never get reported to the (distant)
    brain.

    On the other hand, I have seen the retina characterized as
    (effectively?) a part of the brain. Metaphor? - literal, owing
    (even) to similar tissues? I never knew/ I still don't know.


    "The eyes are the windows to the soul" (commonly attributed to Shakespeare)

    So, the answer to your question boils down to: "Where does the soul
    reside - the brain, or beyond?
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  • From athel.cb@gmail.com@user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.usage.english on Fri Aug 14 08:16:07 2026
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    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) posted:

    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

    Endless talk in the media, especially the French, about the eclipse yesterday. France 2's evening news was longer than usual, a whole hour,
    and spoke of nothing else. It was cloudy here - of course! - though did clear for a couple of minutes. A quickly-made pinhole camera showed a
    tiny nibbled disc. Ha bumbug!

    Also unimpressive viewed thus:

    <https://pic.infini.fr/V6g1Hsw6/z2moID66.png> (link valid 15 days)

    This shows the dip in solar power generation in the UK. It was evening,
    so it was already tailing off to nothing. The dip at 7 p.m. is 0.55 GW,
    the little peak at 7.30, 0.86 GW, and the maximum at 1 p.m., 13.53 GW.

    For much damper and more effective squibs,
    the nuclear power complex at Gravelines,
    (know as Grave Lines to Britons, by olderthread)
    has been forced into a complete shutdown
    by a massive invasion of jellyfish blocking the sea water intakes.
    There are unusually many of them because the sea is exceptionally warm,
    it seems.

    Yes. That's been much more of a problem along the Atlantic and the English Channel than along the Mediterrane

    This loses France about 3 GW for days, perhaps one or even two weeks.
    The production of the nuclaire based on rivers has also gone down
    for lack of cooling water.
    The spot price for a MWh has gone up in consequence,

    Jan





    --
    athel

    Living in Marseilles for 39 years; mainly in England before that,
    with long periods in Singapore, California, Chile and Canada
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  • From athel.cb@gmail.com@user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.usage.english on Fri Aug 14 08:20:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english


    athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) posted:

    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

    Endless talk in the media, especially the French, about the eclipse yesterday. France 2's evening news was longer than usual, a whole hour, and spoke of nothing else. It was cloudy here - of course! - though did clear for a couple of minutes. A quickly-made pinhole camera showed a tiny nibbled disc. Ha bumbug!

    Also unimpressive viewed thus:

    <https://pic.infini.fr/V6g1Hsw6/z2moID66.png> (link valid 15 days)

    This shows the dip in solar power generation in the UK. It was evening, so it was already tailing off to nothing. The dip at 7 p.m. is 0.55 GW, the little peak at 7.30, 0.86 GW, and the maximum at 1 p.m., 13.53 GW.

    For much damper and more effective squibs,
    the nuclear power complex at Gravelines,
    (know as Grave Lines to Britons, by olderthread)
    has been forced into a complete shutdown
    by a massive invasion of jellyfish blocking the sea water intakes.
    There are unusually many of them because the sea is exceptionally warm,
    it seems.

    Yes. That's been much more of a problem along the Atlantic and the English Channel than along the Mediterrane

    Damned computer decided to post before I gave the word. Anyway...

    n. We have about the same numbers of jellyfish as usual. However, my daughter was taking her to a campsite near La Rochelle, and I warned her that jellyfish might be a problem.

    This loses France about 3 GW for days, perhaps one or even two weeks.
    The production of the nuclaire based on rivers has also gone down
    for lack of cooling water.
    The spot price for a MWh has gone up in consequence,

    Jan







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  • From athel.cb@gmail.com@user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.usage.english on Fri Aug 14 08:27:20 2026
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    athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) posted:

    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

    Endless talk in the media, especially the French, about the eclipse yesterday. France 2's evening news was longer than usual, a whole hour, and spoke of nothing else. It was cloudy here - of course! - though did clear for a couple of minutes. A quickly-made pinhole camera showed a tiny nibbled disc. Ha bumbug!

    Also unimpressive viewed thus:

    <https://pic.infini.fr/V6g1Hsw6/z2moID66.png> (link valid 15 days)

    This shows the dip in solar power generation in the UK. It was evening, so it was already tailing off to nothing. The dip at 7 p.m. is 0.55 GW, the little peak at 7.30, 0.86 GW, and the maximum at 1 p.m., 13.53 GW.

    For much damper and more effective squibs,
    the nuclear power complex at Gravelines,
    (know as Grave Lines to Britons, by olderthread)
    has been forced into a complete shutdown
    by a massive invasion of jellyfish blocking the sea water intakes.
    There are unusually many of them because the sea is exceptionally warm, it seems.

    Yes. That's been much more of a problem along the Atlantic and the English Channel than along the Mediterrane

    Damned computer decided to post before I gave the word. Anyway...

    n. We have about the same numbers of jellyfish as usual. However, my daughter was taking her

    children

    to a campsite near La Rochelle, and I warned her that jellyfish
    might be a problem.

    Oh dear. Can't blame the computer this time. That was me.

    This loses France about 3 GW for days, perhaps one or even two weeks.
    The production of the nuclaire based on rivers has also gone down
    for lack of cooling water.
    The spot price for a MWh has gone up in consequence,

    Jan









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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Fri Aug 14 12:09:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On 14/08/2026 10:27, athel.cb@gmail.com wrote:

    <snip>


    Damned computer decided to post before I gave the word. Anyway...


    <snip>


    Oh dear. Can't blame the computer this time. That was me.


    One of them days. <smile>
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  • From nospam@nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) to alt.usage.english on Fri Aug 14 13:55:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    <athel.cb@gmail.com> wrote:

    athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:


    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) posted:

    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

    Endless talk in the media, especially the French, about the eclipse yesterday. France 2's evening news was longer than usual, a whole hour, and spoke of nothing else. It was cloudy here - of course! - though did clear for a couple of minutes. A quickly-made pinhole camera showed a tiny nibbled disc. Ha bumbug!

    Also unimpressive viewed thus:

    <https://pic.infini.fr/V6g1Hsw6/z2moID66.png> (link valid 15 days)

    This shows the dip in solar power generation in the UK. It was evening, so it was already tailing off to nothing. The dip at 7 p.m. is 0.55 GW, the little peak at 7.30, 0.86 GW, and the maximum at 1 p.m., 13.53 GW.

    For much damper and more effective squibs,
    the nuclear power complex at Gravelines,
    (know as Grave Lines to Britons, by olderthread)
    has been forced into a complete shutdown
    by a massive invasion of jellyfish blocking the sea water intakes.
    There are unusually many of them because the sea is exceptionally warm, it seems.

    Yes. That's been much more of a problem along the Atlantic and the English Channel than along the Mediterrane

    Damned computer decided to post before I gave the word. Anyway...

    n. We have about the same numbers of jellyfish as usual. However, my daughter was taking her to a campsite near La Rochelle, and I warned her that jellyfish
    might be a problem.

    Also in the news: the Portugese Man o' War are moving north too.
    Seen en masse near Biaritz, probably not yet at La Rochelle.
    They can sting at 40 meter distance...

    Jan
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to alt.usage.english on Fri Aug 14 20:42:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On 14/08/2026 06:48, occam wrote:
    On 14/08/2026 02:49, Rich Ulrich wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 15:27:38 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, Bertel Lund Hansen queried:
    Den 13.08.2026 kl. 19.12 skrev Snidely:

    Without them we'd have just seen the usual sun approaching sunset. I was
    surprised at how ordinary it looked without the glasses, with a full disk
    even at the maximum. After that it sank slowly and set near the Ch|oteau
    d'If.
    Not the most overwhelming spectable of my life, but I'm glad we saw it. >>>>>>

    That sounds much better.

    Based on the reports from the last two US totals, the difference between >>>>> near-total and total is significant (I cannot confirm or deny ... I stayed
    in California for both).-a Spain appears to be have been the place on the >>>>> Continent to be for this one.

    In Denmark we were promised that 85% would becovered. It was so cloudy that I
    couldn't see it, but the reduction in light was hardly noticeable.

    The eye [1] is too good at autoadjusting. Had you been tracking
    illumination levels with a camera or light meter or solar panel
    monitors, you might have seen the difference.

    [1] Actually, most of that happens in the brain, no?

    My recollection is that what the retina reports is in terms of
    ratios of stimuli, comparing nearby rods/cones and also distant
    ones. Thus, absolute levels never get reported to the (distant)
    brain.

    On the other hand, I have seen the retina characterized as
    (effectively?) a part of the brain. Metaphor? - literal, owing
    (even) to similar tissues? I never knew/ I still don't know.


    "The eyes are the windows to the soul" (commonly attributed to Shakespeare)

    So, the answer to your question boils down to: "Where does the soul
    reside - the brain, or beyond?

    Beyond?
    Does this mean your soul is constantly looking over your shoulder?
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Sam Plusnet@not@home.com to alt.usage.english on Fri Aug 14 20:44:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On 14/08/2026 09:16, athel.cb@gmail.com wrote:

    nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) posted:

    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

    Endless talk in the media, especially the French, about the eclipse
    yesterday. France 2's evening news was longer than usual, a whole hour,
    and spoke of nothing else. It was cloudy here - of course! - though did
    clear for a couple of minutes. A quickly-made pinhole camera showed a
    tiny nibbled disc. Ha bumbug!

    Also unimpressive viewed thus:

    <https://pic.infini.fr/V6g1Hsw6/z2moID66.png> (link valid 15 days)

    This shows the dip in solar power generation in the UK. It was evening,
    so it was already tailing off to nothing. The dip at 7 p.m. is 0.55 GW,
    the little peak at 7.30, 0.86 GW, and the maximum at 1 p.m., 13.53 GW.

    For much damper and more effective squibs,
    the nuclear power complex at Gravelines,
    (know as Grave Lines to Britons, by olderthread)
    has been forced into a complete shutdown
    by a massive invasion of jellyfish blocking the sea water intakes.
    There are unusually many of them because the sea is exceptionally warm,
    it seems.

    Yes. That's been much more of a problem along the Atlantic and the English Channel than along the Mediterrane

    Doesn't the Med go in for algal blooms which may have the same effect?
    --
    Sam Plusnet
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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to alt.usage.english on Sat Aug 15 19:59:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.usage.english

    On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 20:42:23 +0100
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

    On 14/08/2026 06:48, occam wrote:

    "The eyes are the windows to the soul" (commonly attributed to Shakespeare)
    The Doors wannit?


    So, the answer to your question boils down to: "Where does the soul
    reside - the brain, or beyond?

    Beyond?
    Does this mean your soul is constantly looking over your shoulder?

    "I can't let you do that, Dave"
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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