• [OT] RobWords @ Edinburg Fringe Festival

    From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Tue Aug 11 08:54:23 2026
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    Every year in the month of August Edinburg hosts the world famous Fringe Festival. I've always thought this was a comedy / performance art event.

    I've just found out that Rob Words (who is featured regularly in AUE)
    will present a show (talk?) at the Fringe. I'm lost for words <smile>.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSsyG2pE-GY
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  • From John Armstrong@jja@blueyonder.co.uk to alt.usage.english on Tue Aug 11 08:53:33 2026
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    On 11/08/2026 07:54, occam wrote:
    Every year in the month of August Edinburg hosts the world famous Fringe Festival. I've always thought this was a comedy / performance art event.

    I've just found out that Rob Words (who is featured regularly in AUE)
    will present a show (talk?) at the Fringe. I'm lost for words <smile>.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSsyG2pE-GY

    It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".

    And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.
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  • From athel.cb@gmail.com@user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid to alt.usage.english on Tue Aug 11 09:30:56 2026
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    John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> posted:

    On 11/08/2026 07:54, occam wrote:
    Every year in the month of August Edinburg hosts the world famous Fringe Festival. I've always thought this was a comedy / performance art event.

    I've just found out that Rob Words (who is featured regularly in AUE)
    will present a show (talk?) at the Fringe. I'm lost for words <smile>.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSsyG2pE-GY

    It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".

    I was amazed that Occam wrote that, and thought that even in darkest Luxemburg he would know what Scotland's capital is called. I wondered if it was some sort of obscure joke.

    And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.

    It depends on who is pronouncing it. I say Edinbr+O /'ed+-nbr+O/, where +O is a
    schwa, in ordinary conversation, or Edinb+Or+O /'ed+-nb+Or+O/ if I want to be more
    formal.
    --
    athel

    Living in Marseilles for 39 years; mainly in England before that,
    with long periods in Singapore, California, Chile and Canada
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  • From richard@richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) to alt.usage.english on Tue Aug 11 09:41:40 2026
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    In article <ne02ntFcc8dU1@mid.individual.net>,
    John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".

    And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.

    "Embra", with a long m.

    -- Richard
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  • From Alan Mackenzie@acm@muc.de to alt.usage.english on Tue Aug 11 10:36:48 2026
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    athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
    John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> posted:
    On 11/08/2026 07:54, occam wrote:
    Every year in the month of August Edinburg hosts the world famous Fringe Festival. I've always thought this was a comedy / performance art event. I've just found out that Rob Words (who is featured regularly in AUE) will present a show (talk?) at the Fringe. I'm lost for words <smile>. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSsyG2pE-GY

    It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".
    I was amazed that Occam wrote that, and thought that even in darkest Luxemburg he would know what Scotland's capital is called. I wondered
    if it was some sort of obscure joke.
    And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.
    Where I live, it gets pronounced "Ay-din-boorg". It took me some while
    to stop trying to correct people. If they're wrong pronouncing it thus,
    then the entire English speaking world is even worse pronouncing
    N|+rnberg as "Nyoor-m-b'rg".
    It depends on who is pronouncing it. I say Edinbr+O /'ed+-nbr+O/, where +O
    is a schwa, in ordinary conversation, or Edinb+Or+O /'ed+-nb+Or+O/ if I want to be more formal.
    --
    athel
    --
    Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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  • From Aidan Kehoe@kehoea@parhasard.net to alt.usage.english on Tue Aug 11 11:42:49 2026
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    Ar an t-aon|| l|i d|-ag de m|! L||nasa, scr|!obh Richard Tobin:

    In article <ne02ntFcc8dU1@mid.individual.net>,
    John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".

    And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.

    "Embra", with a long m.

    So, E+ambra, with tashdid. (IrCOve put the tashdid after the <E>, where semantically it should be after the <m>; wonder is there a way to force Unicode to put an RTL diacritic above a preceding LTR character.)
    --
    rCyAs I sat looking up at the Guinness ad, I could never figure out /
    How your man stayed up on the surfboard after fourteen pints of stoutrCO
    (C. Moore)
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  • From Hibou@vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid to alt.usage.english on Tue Aug 11 11:52:51 2026
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    Le 11/08/2026 |a 10:41, Richard Tobin a |-crit :
    John Armstrong wrote:

    It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".

    And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.

    "Embra", with a long m.


    "Edinbrugh" for me - when it's not Auld Reekie.

    Ah wis never any gud at the phonetic alphabet, but if you click on the
    little UK speaker here - like that: <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/edinburgh>

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  • From Hibou@vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid to alt.usage.english on Tue Aug 11 12:03:32 2026
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    Le 11/08/2026 |a 11:52, Hibou a |-crit :
    Le 11/08/2026 |a 10:41, Richard Tobin a |-crit :
    John Armstrong-a wrote:

    It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".

    And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.

    "Embra", with a long m.


    "Edinbrugh" for me - when it's not Auld Reekie.

    Ah wis never any gud at the phonetic alphabet, but if you click on the little UK speaker here - like that: <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/edinburgh>



    Which reminds me of:

    "But Edinburgh pays cruelly for her high seat in one of the vilest
    climates under heaven. She is liable to be beaten upon by all the winds
    that blow, to be drenched with rain, to be buried in cold sea fogs out
    of the east, and powdered with the snow as it comes flying southward
    from the Highland hills. The weather is raw and boisterous in winter,
    shifty and ungenial in summer, and a downright meteorological purgatory
    in the spring. The delicate die early, and I, as a survivor, among
    bleak winds and plumping rain, have been sometimes tempted to envy them
    their fate. For all who love shelter and the blessings of the sun, who
    hate dark weather and perpetual tilting against squalls, there could
    scarcely be found a more unhomely and harassing place of residence" - Stevenson, 'Edinburgh - Picturesque Notes', 1903.

    Global warming has made it a little less bleak - and the authorities
    have reworked Waverley Steps, taming the boisterous wind that loved to
    play with skirts and kilts - people are soft these days! Come to think
    of it, the weather is still shifty and ungenial in 'summer' (rO-Always
    look on the bright side of life.rO-)

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  • From Hibou@vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid to alt.usage.english on Tue Aug 11 13:26:01 2026
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    Le 11/08/2026 |a 11:36, Alan Mackenzie a |-crit :

    Where I live, it gets pronounced "Ay-din-boorg". It took me some while
    to stop trying to correct people. If they're wrong pronouncing it thus,
    then the entire English speaking world is even worse pronouncing
    N|+rnberg as "Nyoor-m-b'rg".


    I think we must be allowed to tailor names to our language, and extend
    the same privilege to foreigners. Should we pronounce 'Paris' the French
    way, say 'Deutschland' not 'Germany', call China 'Zh+inggu||'?

    Plaster of Paree? Perhaps not.

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to alt.usage.english on Tue Aug 11 17:56:14 2026
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    On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 11:52:51 +0100
    Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
    Le 11/08/2026 a 10:41, Richard Tobin a ocrit :
    John Armstrong wrote:

    It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".

    And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.

    "Embra", with a long m.


    "Edinbrugh" for me - when it's not Auld Reekie.

    Ah wis never any gud at the phonetic alphabet, but if you click on the little UK speaker here - like that: <https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/edinburgh>

    It was easier when it was Caeredin! </antigael grudge from a few
    centuries back>
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.usage.english on Wed Aug 12 10:01:21 2026
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    On 11/08/2026 11:41, Richard Tobin wrote:
    In article <ne02ntFcc8dU1@mid.individual.net>,
    John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    It's "Edinburgh", not "Edinburg".

    And it's pronounced "Edinburru". Two short "u"s, as in duck, or luck.

    "Embra", with a long m.

    <smile>. A long 'm' and a few 'r's.
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