• S50 Ep01 Spoilers and Comments (2/25/2026)

    From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Wed Feb 25 18:08:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!
    --
    Brian
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Wed Feb 25 21:07:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me of
    Danni in Winners at War.

    Kyle being pulled from the game due to injury really sucks. I wonder if
    that will help Dee and Savannah, and how it will impact Kamilla when she
    finds out.
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    Brian
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Feb 26 00:53:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/25/2026 9:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me of
    Danni in Winners at War.

    Kyle being pulled from the game due to injury really sucks. I wonder if
    that will help Dee and Savannah, and how it will impact Kamilla when she finds out.

    Tweet from Dalton concerning Kyle's injury.

    Here the raw footage I shot of the Kyle injury on #Survivor50. With so
    much going on, it's pretty amazing Probst was right on top of this.
    #Survivor

    https://x.com/steillione/status/2026861650830078098

    And then there's this from Mike Bloom.

    #Survivor50 This didn't make the edit, but the irony of Kyle's injury:

    Colby was actually the one who couldn't make it up the wall originally.
    Kyle went back down to boost him up

    https://x.com/AMikeBloomType/status/2026849722904740114
    --
    Brian
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Feb 26 01:08:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/25/2026 9:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me of
    Danni in Winners at War.

    Tweet from Gervase. This is so true.

    We called Jenna a loose cannon in Borneo. That sentiment was echoed
    tonight 25 years later. Loose cannons are unpredictabile and that unpredictability is bad for everyonerCOs game.

    https://x.com/SayGerv/status/2026879934153511111
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Feb 26 10:52:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/25/2026 11:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me of
    Danni in Winners at War.


    Agree. She really showed a lack of understanding on the modern game,
    and she totally failed to follow the usual rule of trying to stay
    low-key in the beginning and assess what others think before plunging
    ahead with your own strategy. But she wasn't wrong to target Cirie.
    she just went about it the wrong way.

    Kyle being pulled from the game due to injury really sucks. I wonder if
    that will help Dee and Savannah, and how it will impact Kamilla when she finds out.


    I think Kamilla will be all right. I think she felt a little
    constrained by being in Kyle's shadow and this will give her a chance to branch out on her own a bit.

    The impact on Dee and Savannah will likely be negative, if anything,
    because it will focus attention more on them as the only two prior
    winners. Kyle was almost a shield and might have been the first target
    of the three assuming all three made it to the merge.

    Biggest surprise for me was that the top two winners in the IC won
    immunity. With so many players this year, I thought for sure they would
    begin eliminating two players per episode until they get the numbers
    down a bit.

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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Feb 26 14:59:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/26/2026 3:08 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 9:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me of
    Danni in Winners at War.

    Tweet from Gervase. This is so true.

    We called Jenna a loose cannon in Borneo. That sentiment was echoed
    tonight 25 years later. Loose cannons are unpredictabile and that unpredictability is bad for everyonerCOs game.

    https://x.com/SayGerv/status/2026879934153511111


    Gervase and Jenna didn't like one another in Borneo. At the infamous
    merge vote in season one where every Pagong member voted for someone
    different (seven different players in total received a vote, with
    Gretchen being voted out 4-1-1-1-1-1-1), Jenna incredibly voted for
    fellow Pagong member Gervase (her own teammate), something you rarely
    ever see happen. Gervase paid her back the following week when he and
    fellow Pagongers Greg and Colleen again did the unheard of thing and
    voting for their own teammate Jenna, though it was Greg who got voted
    out by the Tagi players plus...Jenna!
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Feb 26 13:42:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/26/2026 8:52 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 11:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me of
    Danni in Winners at War.


    Agree.-a She really showed a lack of understanding on the modern game,
    and she totally failed to follow the usual rule of trying to stay low-
    key in the beginning and assess what others think before plunging ahead
    with your own strategy.-a But she wasn't wrong to target Cirie. she just went about it the wrong way.

    Sounds like she might also have rubbed people the wrong way. Devans
    tweeted this about 90 minutes ago with a screenshot to part of her exit interview with Dalton.

    I think there's a BIG difference between playing hard establishing relationships (which the rest of Cila did) and playing hard throwing out
    names (which ONLY Jenna did before losing the Immunity Challenge). She
    also came to this "beyotch" WAY LATE in the processrLiN+A Interview on EW

    https://x.com/Rick_Devens/status/2027087979852734856

    Kyle being pulled from the game due to injury really sucks. I wonder
    if that will help Dee and Savannah, and how it will impact Kamilla
    when she finds out.


    I think Kamilla will be all right.-a I think she felt a little
    constrained by being in Kyle's shadow and this will give her a chance to branch out on her own a bit.

    Not having to worry about the link between them should help her.
    Possibly could also make Joe willing to work with her if they end up on
    the same tribe together or both make the merge.

    The impact on Dee and Savannah will likely be negative, if anything,
    because it will focus attention more on them as the only two prior winners.-a Kyle was almost a shield and might have been the first target
    of the three assuming all three made it to the merge.

    I'm worried for Savannah. She got way more airtime than I was expecting
    which can often be a bad sign this early in the game. The Journey
    screwed her over as the rest of her tribe doesn't believe her story. Technically she didn't lie as she doesn't get the BE idol unless Ozzy
    gets blindsided with the idol still in his pocket.

    Biggest surprise for me was that the top two winners in the IC won immunity.-a With so many players this year, I thought for sure they would begin eliminating two players per episode until they get the numbers
    down a bit.

    I think CBS might have mislead Dalton, etc. Last night was more like one
    two hour episode with Kyle's injury and removal from the game as an add
    on. I have to give production, etc. credit for keeping Kyle's injury,
    etc. a secret. I saw nothing online to suggest that anyone was removed
    from the game for medical reasons.

    Some more comments from me.

    --A lot of players trying to reinvent themselves. This is one area where
    Rizzo and Savannah have an advantage. Savannah also seems to have
    realized and addressed her weakness in S49 of not getting to know the
    other players better.

    --I thought Chrissy was playing very sloppily.

    --Mike White subtly throwing Coach UTB was impressive. Coach was
    completely blindsided by that move.

    --I'm already over Aubry and Jonathan.

    --Gen seems to have done her homework. If she can get rid of Aubry ASAP
    I think she'll be in good shape going forward.

    --Casting Q was a good move. He's entertaining and I love that he's
    --having fun playing the game.

    --Colby telling Savannah he has bad hearing in his left ear was totally unexpected. The Dee teeth scene was funny.

    --When Savannah told her tribe that she won S49 I wonder if they asked
    her about Rizzo. Hopefully we find out if those two came up with a story before heading out to play S50.

    --I was not expecting to see Exile Island return.

    --It looks like SITDs are gone this season unless Cirie knew well in
    advance of TC that Jenna was going home by a vote of 7rCo1.

    --Did Christian screw himself by making such a huge fire using just eye glasses?

    --I'm glad they cast Emily. She seems a lot more at ease than she did at
    the start of S45 and people want to work with her.

    --Rizzo gave Colby some great advice. Hopefully he heard it.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Feb 26 13:53:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/26/2026 12:59 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 3:08 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 9:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me of
    Danni in Winners at War.

    Tweet from Gervase. This is so true.

    We called Jenna a loose cannon in Borneo. That sentiment was echoed
    tonight 25 years later. Loose cannons are unpredictabile and that
    unpredictability is bad for everyonerCOs game.

    https://x.com/SayGerv/status/2026879934153511111


    Gervase and Jenna didn't like one another in Borneo. At the infamous
    merge vote in season one where every Pagong member voted for someone different (seven different players in total received a vote, with
    Gretchen being voted out 4-1-1-1-1-1-1), Jenna incredibly voted for
    fellow Pagong member Gervase (her own teammate), something you rarely
    ever see happen.-a Gervase paid her back the following week when he and fellow Pagongers Greg and Colleen again did the unheard of thing and
    voting for their own teammate Jenna, though it was Greg who got voted
    out by the Tagi players plus...Jenna!

    I realize CBS wanted someone from S1 but Jenna was the wrong choice.
    Hatch would have been perfect for Jeff's bookends analogy.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Feb 26 18:10:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/26/2026 3:53 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 12:59 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 3:08 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 9:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me of
    Danni in Winners at War.

    Tweet from Gervase. This is so true.

    We called Jenna a loose cannon in Borneo. That sentiment was echoed
    tonight 25 years later. Loose cannons are unpredictabile and that
    unpredictability is bad for everyonerCOs game.

    https://x.com/SayGerv/status/2026879934153511111


    Gervase and Jenna didn't like one another in Borneo. At the infamous
    merge vote in season one where every Pagong member voted for someone
    different (seven different players in total received a vote, with
    Gretchen being voted out 4-1-1-1-1-1-1), Jenna incredibly voted for
    fellow Pagong member Gervase (her own teammate), something you rarely
    ever see happen.-a Gervase paid her back the following week when he and
    fellow Pagongers Greg and Colleen again did the unheard of thing and
    voting for their own teammate Jenna, though it was Greg who got voted
    out by the Tagi players plus...Jenna!

    I realize CBS wanted someone from S1 but Jenna was the wrong choice.
    Hatch would have been perfect for Jeff's bookends analogy.


    I found a quote from Jeff on why Hatch wasn't included in Survivor 40.

    rCLI didnrCOt feel comfortable having him out on the show and representing a show that is for families.rCY

    https://parade.com/996129/mikebloom/richard-hatch-survivor/

    There was also a quote from Richard in that same Mike Bloom article that suggested he was kept out of S40 due to the incident where he was naked
    and brushed up against Sue Hawk, especially in light of the Dan Spilo
    incident from the prior season.

    Now that was 10 seasons back. Did they keep Rich out of S50 because the touching incident was still on the minds of CBS? Could be. It's hard
    to imagine the other players not bringing up Rich's history if he were
    brought back, and I can see where it could put a damper on Jeff's desire
    for "joyous" players.

    I agree Jenna wasn't the ideal choice for S1, but I honestly don't think
    they could have gotten anyone else other than maybe Gervase or Kelly Wiglesworth, who had already come back in prior seasons and were
    honestly not that compelling. The ideal returnees would be any of Greg
    Buis, Colleen Haskell or Gretchen Cordy, but I don't think any of them
    would have much interest in coming back. The only other player from
    that season still alive who occasionally gets interviewed is Dr. Sean
    Kenniff, but, really, who wants to see him again. I think Jenna was
    brought back because they frankly couldn't get anyone better.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Feb 26 16:36:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/26/2026 4:10 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 3:53 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 12:59 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 3:08 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 9:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me of >>>>> Danni in Winners at War.

    Tweet from Gervase. This is so true.

    We called Jenna a loose cannon in Borneo. That sentiment was echoed
    tonight 25 years later. Loose cannons are unpredictabile and that
    unpredictability is bad for everyonerCOs game.

    https://x.com/SayGerv/status/2026879934153511111


    Gervase and Jenna didn't like one another in Borneo. At the infamous
    merge vote in season one where every Pagong member voted for someone
    different (seven different players in total received a vote, with
    Gretchen being voted out 4-1-1-1-1-1-1), Jenna incredibly voted for
    fellow Pagong member Gervase (her own teammate), something you rarely
    ever see happen.-a Gervase paid her back the following week when he
    and fellow Pagongers Greg and Colleen again did the unheard of thing
    and voting for their own teammate Jenna, though it was Greg who got
    voted out by the Tagi players plus...Jenna!

    I realize CBS wanted someone from S1 but Jenna was the wrong choice.
    Hatch would have been perfect for Jeff's bookends analogy.


    I found a quote from Jeff on why Hatch wasn't included in Survivor 40.

    rCLI didnrCOt feel comfortable having him out on the show and representing a show that is for families.rCY

    https://parade.com/996129/mikebloom/richard-hatch-survivor/

    There was also a quote from Richard in that same Mike Bloom article that suggested he was kept out of S40 due to the incident where he was naked
    and brushed up against Sue Hawk, especially in light of the Dan Spilo incident from the prior season.

    Now that was 10 seasons back.-a Did they keep Rich out of S50 because the touching incident was still on the minds of CBS?-a Could be.-a It's hard
    to imagine the other playeriendlyrs not bringing up Rich's history if he were
    brought back, and I can see where it could put a damper on Jeff's desire
    for "joyous" players.

    I agree Jenna wasn't the ideal choice for S1, but I honestly don't think they could have gotten anyone else other than maybe Gervase or Kelly Wiglesworth, who had already come back in prior seasons and were
    honestly not that compelling.-a The ideal returnees would be any of Greg Buis, Colleen Haskell or Gretchen Cordy, but I don't think any of them
    would have much interest in coming back.-a The only other player from
    that season still alive who occasionally gets interviewed is Dr. Sean Kenniff, but, really, who wants to see him again.-a I think Jenna was brought back because they frankly couldn't get anyone better.

    Wouldn't Jeff's "family" excuse also apply to other players? Sex tapes
    and porn are not exactly family friendly. The vast majority of viewers probably couldn't care less about what Hatch did decades ago. He's an
    iconic player. The bad press he got back in the day never hurt the show
    so why would it now?
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Feb 26 18:37:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/26/2026 3:42 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 8:52 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 11:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me of
    Danni in Winners at War.


    Agree.-a She really showed a lack of understanding on the modern game,
    and she totally failed to follow the usual rule of trying to stay low-
    key in the beginning and assess what others think before plunging
    ahead with your own strategy.-a But she wasn't wrong to target Cirie.
    she just went about it the wrong way.

    Sounds like she might also have rubbed people the wrong way. Devans
    tweeted this about 90 minutes ago with a screenshot to part of her exit interview with Dalton.

    I think there's a BIG difference between playing hard establishing relationships (which the rest of Cila did) and playing hard throwing out names (which ONLY Jenna did before losing the Immunity Challenge). She
    also came to this "beyotch" WAY LATE in the processrLiN+A Interview on EW

    https://x.com/Rick_Devens/status/2027087979852734856

    Kyle being pulled from the game due to injury really sucks. I wonder
    if that will help Dee and Savannah, and how it will impact Kamilla
    when she finds out.


    I think Kamilla will be all right.-a I think she felt a little
    constrained by being in Kyle's shadow and this will give her a chance
    to branch out on her own a bit.

    Not having to worry about the link between them should help her.
    Possibly could also make Joe willing to work with her if they end up on
    the same tribe together or both make the merge.

    The impact on Dee and Savannah will likely be negative, if anything,
    because it will focus attention more on them as the only two prior
    winners.-a Kyle was almost a shield and might have been the first
    target of the three assuming all three made it to the merge.

    I'm worried for Savannah. She got way more airtime than I was expecting which can often be a bad sign this early in the game. The Journey
    screwed her over as the rest of her tribe doesn't believe her story. Technically she didn't lie as she doesn't get the BE idol unless Ozzy
    gets blindsided with the idol still in his pocket.


    She did get a lot of air time, but remember that she is very camera and TV-saavy, and she handles herself very well.

    I think she will be okay pre-merge because she is very strong in
    challenges and I think everyone will see that. She also benefits by
    having Cirie as whatever the opposite of a meat shield is. Cirie is of
    no value in challenges and I think is likely to be the next person to
    go, assuming they go back to TC soon.

    Biggest surprise for me was that the top two winners in the IC won
    immunity.-a With so many players this year, I thought for sure they
    would begin eliminating two players per episode until they get the
    numbers down a bit.

    I think CBS might have mislead Dalton, etc. Last night was more like one
    two hour episode with Kyle's injury and removal from the game as an add
    on. I have to give production, etc. credit for keeping Kyle's injury,
    etc. a secret. I saw nothing online to suggest that anyone was removed
    from the game for medical reasons.


    Agree. I was really confused that so much time was left after TC but
    not enough for a complete episode. It never dawned on me that we could
    have an injury evacuation.

    Some more comments from me.

    --A lot of players trying to reinvent themselves. This is one area where Rizzo and Savannah have an advantage. Savannah also seems to have
    realized and addressed her weakness in S49 of not getting to know the
    other players better.

    --I thought Chrissy was playing very sloppily.


    I didn't recognize Chrissy, and I don't mean just physically. I don't remember her playing so haphazardly, though I guess it has been several
    years.

    --Mike White subtly throwing Coach UTB was impressive. Coach was
    completely blindsided by that move.


    Coach also got a lot of air time, and if that means he's leaving sooner
    rather than later, I'd be okay with that. Coach really hurt his brand
    by stealing Ozzie's key the way he did, and I suspect he probably
    regrets doing it.

    --I'm already over Aubry and Jonathan.


    Jonathan's only reason for being in the season seems to be his strength
    and size. He and Joe ought to get along well because in many ways they
    are the same player.

    Aubry surprised me in her scenes with Gen. The two seem to be very
    similar and on paper you'd think they should get along well, but Aubry
    seemed really closed off and suspicious of Gen. No idea what that was
    about. Aubry's got a chip on her shoulder and I'm not really sure what
    that's about. When she and Gen have their glasses on they could almost
    pass as sisters. Does Aubry resent the new girl in town adopting her
    persona?

    --Gen seems to have done her homework. If she can get rid of Aubry ASAP
    I think she'll be in good shape going forward.

    --Casting Q was a good move. He's entertaining and I love that he's
    --having fun playing the game.

    --Colby telling Savannah he has bad hearing in his left ear was totally unexpected. The Dee teeth scene was funny.

    --When Savannah told her tribe that she won S49 I wonder if they asked
    her about Rizzo. Hopefully we find out if those two came up with a story before heading out to play S50.


    They definitely would have asked about Riz-boy, and I really wonder what
    she told everyone. For that matter, Riz's teammates would clearly have
    also asked him how he and Savannah did and I wonder what he told
    everyone. I'm sure he and Savannah had to have talked pre-season to get
    their stories straight with one another.

    --I was not expecting to see Exile Island return.

    --It looks like SITDs are gone this season unless Cirie knew well in
    advance of TC that Jenna was going home by a vote of 7rCo1.


    I haven't heard anything about SITD this year, but I believe Cirie is well-enough connected that she probably knew she was safe.

    --Did Christian screw himself by making such a huge fire using just eye glasses?


    I don't know if he screwed himself, but I have been wondering for years
    why people don't try more often to start a fire with glasses. Even a
    person who doesn't normally wear glasses could bring a pair of reading
    glasses that would have the right magnifiers to start a fire. I thought
    what he did was great.

    --I'm glad they cast Emily. She seems a lot more at ease than she did at
    the start of S45 and people want to work with her.


    Well she did get married after her prior season, so I'm sure she is more confident and self-assured now.

    --Rizzo gave Colby some great advice. Hopefully he heard it.


    Wasn't it Colby who gave Rizo the advice?
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Feb 26 18:49:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/26/2026 6:36 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 4:10 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 3:53 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 12:59 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 3:08 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 9:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me
    of Danni in Winners at War.

    Tweet from Gervase. This is so true.

    We called Jenna a loose cannon in Borneo. That sentiment was echoed >>>>> tonight 25 years later. Loose cannons are unpredictabile and that
    unpredictability is bad for everyonerCOs game.

    https://x.com/SayGerv/status/2026879934153511111


    Gervase and Jenna didn't like one another in Borneo. At the infamous
    merge vote in season one where every Pagong member voted for someone
    different (seven different players in total received a vote, with
    Gretchen being voted out 4-1-1-1-1-1-1), Jenna incredibly voted for
    fellow Pagong member Gervase (her own teammate), something you
    rarely ever see happen.-a Gervase paid her back the following week
    when he and fellow Pagongers Greg and Colleen again did the unheard
    of thing and voting for their own teammate Jenna, though it was Greg
    who got voted out by the Tagi players plus...Jenna!

    I realize CBS wanted someone from S1 but Jenna was the wrong choice.
    Hatch would have been perfect for Jeff's bookends analogy.


    I found a quote from Jeff on why Hatch wasn't included in Survivor 40.

    rCLI didnrCOt feel comfortable having him out on the show and representing >> a show that is for families.rCY

    https://parade.com/996129/mikebloom/richard-hatch-survivor/

    There was also a quote from Richard in that same Mike Bloom article
    that suggested he was kept out of S40 due to the incident where he was
    naked and brushed up against Sue Hawk, especially in light of the Dan
    Spilo incident from the prior season.

    Now that was 10 seasons back.-a Did they keep Rich out of S50 because
    the touching incident was still on the minds of CBS?-a Could be.-a It's
    hard to imagine the other playeriendlyrs not bringing up Rich's
    history if he were brought back, and I can see where it could put a
    damper on Jeff's desire for "joyous" players.

    I agree Jenna wasn't the ideal choice for S1, but I honestly don't
    think they could have gotten anyone else other than maybe Gervase or
    Kelly Wiglesworth, who had already come back in prior seasons and were
    honestly not that compelling.-a The ideal returnees would be any of
    Greg Buis, Colleen Haskell or Gretchen Cordy, but I don't think any of
    them would have much interest in coming back.-a The only other player
    from that season still alive who occasionally gets interviewed is Dr.
    Sean Kenniff, but, really, who wants to see him again.-a I think Jenna
    was brought back because they frankly couldn't get anyone better.

    Wouldn't Jeff's "family" excuse also apply to other players? Sex tapes
    and porn are not exactly family friendly. The vast majority of viewers probably couldn't care less about what Hatch did decades ago. He's an
    iconic player. The bad press he got back in the day never hurt the show
    so why would it now?


    One difference is that I think Hatch cost the show money because I think
    they had to pay Sue Hawk off so she wouldn't sue the show. I think a
    lot of people in the hierarchy at CBS and the show probably just don't
    like Hatch because of it. Also, Jenna's sex tape had nothing to do with
    the show and was probably not seen by that many people. Hatch's nudity
    and the incident with Sue are still accessible by anyone watching early seasons of the show. If Hatch were back on the show, there would be
    likely questions from other players and references to how Rich was
    allowed to walk around naked in front of other players, which would
    never be allowed today. I think Rich's behavior on his two seasons and especially the Sue incident are still embarrassing to the show's
    management and they don't want to be reminded of it.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Fri Feb 27 04:42:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/26/2026 4:37 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 3:42 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 8:52 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 11:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me of
    Danni in Winners at War.


    Agree.-a She really showed a lack of understanding on the modern game,
    and she totally failed to follow the usual rule of trying to stay
    low- key in the beginning and assess what others think before
    plunging ahead with your own strategy.-a But she wasn't wrong to
    target Cirie. she just went about it the wrong way.

    Sounds like she might also have rubbed people the wrong way. Devans
    tweeted this about 90 minutes ago with a screenshot to part of her
    exit interview with Dalton.

    I think there's a BIG difference between playing hard establishing
    relationships (which the rest of Cila did) and playing hard throwing
    out names (which ONLY Jenna did before losing the Immunity Challenge).
    She also came to this "beyotch" WAY LATE in the processrLiN+A Interview on EW

    https://x.com/Rick_Devens/status/2027087979852734856

    Kyle being pulled from the game due to injury really sucks. I wonder
    if that will help Dee and Savannah, and how it will impact Kamilla
    when she finds out.


    I think Kamilla will be all right.-a I think she felt a little
    constrained by being in Kyle's shadow and this will give her a chance
    to branch out on her own a bit.

    Not having to worry about the link between them should help her.
    Possibly could also make Joe willing to work with her if they end up
    on the same tribe together or both make the merge.

    The impact on Dee and Savannah will likely be negative, if anything,
    because it will focus attention more on them as the only two prior
    winners.-a Kyle was almost a shield and might have been the first
    target of the three assuming all three made it to the merge.

    I'm worried for Savannah. She got way more airtime than I was
    expecting which can often be a bad sign this early in the game. The
    Journey screwed her over as the rest of her tribe doesn't believe her
    story. Technically she didn't lie as she doesn't get the BE idol
    unless Ozzy gets blindsided with the idol still in his pocket.


    She did get a lot of air time, but remember that she is very camera and TV-saavy,-a and she handles herself very well.

    100%!

    I think she will be okay pre-merge because she is very strong in
    challenges and I think everyone will see that.-a-a-a She also benefits by having Cirie as whatever the opposite of a meat shield is.-a Cirie is of
    no value in challenges and I think is likely to be the next person to
    go, assuming they go back to TC soon.

    As far as I'm concerned, it would be a huge mistake to let Cirie get
    anywhere near the end. If she makes F3 she'll probably win. Savannah, on
    the other hand, might benefit from being a previous winner. The others
    might think the jury would never vote for a past winner to win let alone
    let Savannah become the first back-to-back winner. I would love to see Savannah win just to see the New Era haters go crazy.

    Biggest surprise for me was that the top two winners in the IC won
    immunity.-a With so many players this year, I thought for sure they
    would begin eliminating two players per episode until they get the
    numbers down a bit.

    I think CBS might have mislead Dalton, etc. Last night was more like
    one two hour episode with Kyle's injury and removal from the game as
    an add on. I have to give production, etc. credit for keeping Kyle's
    injury, etc. a secret. I saw nothing online to suggest that anyone was
    removed from the game for medical reasons.


    Agree.-a I was really confused that so much time was left after TC but
    not enough for a complete episode.-a It never dawned on me that we could have an injury evacuation.

    Not only that, but Kyle would have been one of the last people I would
    have guessed to go out due to an injury during a challenge.

    Some more comments from me.

    --A lot of players trying to reinvent themselves. This is one area
    where Rizzo and Savannah have an advantage. Savannah also seems to
    have realized and addressed her weakness in S49 of not getting to know
    the other players better.

    --I thought Chrissy was playing very sloppily.


    I didn't recognize Chrissy, and I don't mean just physically.-a I don't remember her playing so haphazardly, though I guess it has been several years.

    I still can't over how different she looks. I'm pretty sure she played a
    much more rational game in S35(?).

    --Mike White subtly throwing Coach UTB was impressive. Coach was
    completely blindsided by that move.


    Coach also got a lot of air time, and if that means he's leaving sooner rather than later, I'd be okay with that.-a Coach really hurt his brand
    by stealing Ozzie's key the way he did, and I suspect he probably
    regrets doing it.

    I don't think he does.

    https://x.com/the_real_coach/status/2027258219740213375

    Coach did get a lot of airtime but I think Ozzy got the most of anyone.
    The OG players seemed to have gotten the most airtime by far even though
    I thought they were playing much worse than the New Era people.

    --I'm already over Aubry and Jonathan.


    Jonathan's only reason for being in the season seems to be his strength
    and size.-a He and Joe ought to get along well because in many ways they
    are the same player.

    Jonathan's on because Boston Rob trained him for three years and
    probably highly recommended him to Jeff.

    Aubry surprised me in her scenes with Gen.-a The two seem to be very
    similar and on paper you'd think they should get along well, but Aubry seemed really closed off and suspicious of Gen.-a No idea what that was about.-a Aubry's got a chip on her shoulder and I'm not really sure what that's about.-a When she and Gen have their glasses on they could almost pass as sisters.-a Does Aubry resent the new girl in town adopting her persona?

    I think Aubry's still butt hurt that she didn't win S32. She probably
    sees Gen as a major obstacle and someone who's a better player than her.
    If Aubry's trying to be like Gen it's not working. At least not for me.

    --Gen seems to have done her homework. If she can get rid of Aubry
    ASAP I think she'll be in good shape going forward.

    --Casting Q was a good move. He's entertaining and I love that he's --
    having fun playing the game.

    --Colby telling Savannah he has bad hearing in his left ear was
    totally unexpected. The Dee teeth scene was funny.

    --When Savannah told her tribe that she won S49 I wonder if they asked
    her about Rizzo. Hopefully we find out if those two came up with a
    story before heading out to play S50.


    They definitely would have asked about Riz-boy, and I really wonder what
    she told everyone.-a For that matter, Riz's teammates would clearly have also asked him how he and Savannah did and I wonder what he told
    everyone.-a I'm sure he and Savannah had to have talked pre-season to get their stories straight with one another.

    We know via Kyle that Rizo told his tribe that Savannah won, he lost in
    fire, and that he and Savannah were not close. I imagine she told her
    tribe the same story.

    --I was not expecting to see Exile Island return.

    --It looks like SITDs are gone this season unless Cirie knew well in
    advance of TC that Jenna was going home by a vote of 7rCo1.


    I haven't heard anything about SITD this year, but I believe Cirie is well-enough connected that she probably knew she was safe.

    She and Ozzy both definitely knew. I'm just wondering when they knew.

    --Did Christian screw himself by making such a huge fire using just
    eye glasses?


    I don't know if he screwed himself, but I have been wondering for years
    why people don't try more often to start a fire with glasses.-a Even a person who doesn't normally wear glasses could bring a pair of reading glasses that would have the right magnifiers to start a fire.-a I thought what he did was great.

    Was there not a season long ago where someone used their glasses to
    start a fire? After Christian's explanation last night I can see future players bringing glasses with them. It would be funny if production
    started to ask to see prescriptions to try and prevent people from
    "cheating."

    --I'm glad they cast Emily. She seems a lot more at ease than she did
    at the start of S45 and people want to work with her.


    Well she did get married after her prior season, so I'm sure she is more confident and self-assured now.

    It's kind of funny she got married. At the time of S45 she said they had
    been together for 12 years and basically had no desire to get married.

    --Rizzo gave Colby some great advice. Hopefully he heard it.


    Wasn't it Colby who gave Rizo the advice?

    I'm talking about early on in the episode where Colby was building the
    shelter and Rizo was sitting on his ass. Rizo told him the new game is
    much faster paced and basically that being a provider doesn't count for
    much. Devans essentially said the same thing about Ozzy in a confessional.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Fri Feb 27 20:18:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/27/2026 6:42 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 4:37 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 3:42 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 8:52 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 11:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me of >>>>> Danni in Winners at War.


    Agree.-a She really showed a lack of understanding on the modern
    game, and she totally failed to follow the usual rule of trying to
    stay low- key in the beginning and assess what others think before
    plunging ahead with your own strategy.-a But she wasn't wrong to
    target Cirie. she just went about it the wrong way.

    Sounds like she might also have rubbed people the wrong way. Devans
    tweeted this about 90 minutes ago with a screenshot to part of her
    exit interview with Dalton.

    I think there's a BIG difference between playing hard establishing
    relationships (which the rest of Cila did) and playing hard throwing
    out names (which ONLY Jenna did before losing the Immunity
    Challenge). She also came to this "beyotch" WAY LATE in the processrLiN+A >>> Interview on EW

    https://x.com/Rick_Devens/status/2027087979852734856

    Kyle being pulled from the game due to injury really sucks. I
    wonder if that will help Dee and Savannah, and how it will impact
    Kamilla when she finds out.


    I think Kamilla will be all right.-a I think she felt a little
    constrained by being in Kyle's shadow and this will give her a
    chance to branch out on her own a bit.

    Not having to worry about the link between them should help her.
    Possibly could also make Joe willing to work with her if they end up
    on the same tribe together or both make the merge.

    The impact on Dee and Savannah will likely be negative, if anything,
    because it will focus attention more on them as the only two prior
    winners.-a Kyle was almost a shield and might have been the first
    target of the three assuming all three made it to the merge.

    I'm worried for Savannah. She got way more airtime than I was
    expecting which can often be a bad sign this early in the game. The
    Journey screwed her over as the rest of her tribe doesn't believe her
    story. Technically she didn't lie as she doesn't get the BE idol
    unless Ozzy gets blindsided with the idol still in his pocket.


    She did get a lot of air time, but remember that she is very camera
    and TV-saavy,-a and she handles herself very well.

    100%!

    I think she will be okay pre-merge because she is very strong in
    challenges and I think everyone will see that.-a-a-a She also benefits by >> having Cirie as whatever the opposite of a meat shield is.-a Cirie is
    of no value in challenges and I think is likely to be the next person
    to go, assuming they go back to TC soon.

    As far as I'm concerned, it would be a huge mistake to let Cirie get anywhere near the end. If she makes F3 she'll probably win. Savannah, on
    the other hand, might benefit from being a previous winner. The others
    might think the jury would never vote for a past winner to win let alone
    let Savannah become the first back-to-back winner. I would love to see Savannah win just to see the New Era haters go crazy.


    Well that strategy didn't work for Sandra when she returned for Game
    Changers. As the only two-time winner to that point, I think she tried
    to make the case that no one could possibly vote for her to win an unprecedented third time. That strategy fell flat and she was the sixth person voted out.

    As much as I would love it if Savannah somehow won back-to-back seasons,
    and I will be rooting for that, I think she and Dee will both be
    targeted early post-merge, especially as both are possibilities to win a string of immunities which wasn't even the case with Sandra.

    As for Cirie, I agree that she needs to be voted out pre-merge when she
    is such a liability - otherwise, she could be a lock to make it to F3
    and possibly win. I believe she will be next to go if her tribe goes to
    TC again, but knowing how things go, there will almost certainly be a
    tribe swap after a few more episodes. She could get lucky.

    Biggest surprise for me was that the top two winners in the IC won
    immunity.-a With so many players this year, I thought for sure they
    would begin eliminating two players per episode until they get the
    numbers down a bit.

    I think CBS might have mislead Dalton, etc. Last night was more like
    one two hour episode with Kyle's injury and removal from the game as
    an add on. I have to give production, etc. credit for keeping Kyle's
    injury, etc. a secret. I saw nothing online to suggest that anyone
    was removed from the game for medical reasons.


    Agree.-a I was really confused that so much time was left after TC but
    not enough for a complete episode.-a It never dawned on me that we
    could have an injury evacuation.

    Not only that, but Kyle would have been one of the last people I would
    have guessed to go out due to an injury during a challenge.


    The unfortunate irony is that Kyle had actually made it up the ramp successfully (which wasn't shown) and he only went back down to help
    Colby, who had helped other players up and was the last one remaining at
    the bottom. Unfortunately, he could not make his way back up the muddy
    ramp, so Kyle went back down to help Colby up and then had to try to
    climb back up the muddy ramp, which is how he injured himself. The
    multiple trips are what put excessive strain on his Achilles and caused
    the injury.

    One little tidbit from his interviews today. When they showed the
    doctor putting pressure on the bad leg, you could see his toes react
    ever so slightly. Kyle admitted he actually was making his toes move in
    a failed attempt to convince them to let him stay, but the doctor saw
    through the ruse. Kyle said he was flown home immediately after one
    night at Ponderosa (where Jenna apparently greeted him warmly), and he
    ended up getting surgery five days after he got home.

    Some more comments from me.

    --A lot of players trying to reinvent themselves. This is one area
    where Rizzo and Savannah have an advantage. Savannah also seems to
    have realized and addressed her weakness in S49 of not getting to
    know the other players better.

    --I thought Chrissy was playing very sloppily.


    I didn't recognize Chrissy, and I don't mean just physically.-a I don't
    remember her playing so haphazardly, though I guess it has been
    several years.

    I still can't over how different she looks. I'm pretty sure she played a much more rational game in S35(?).

    --Mike White subtly throwing Coach UTB was impressive. Coach was
    completely blindsided by that move.


    Coach also got a lot of air time, and if that means he's leaving
    sooner rather than later, I'd be okay with that.-a Coach really hurt
    his brand by stealing Ozzie's key the way he did, and I suspect he
    probably regrets doing it.

    I don't think he does.

    https://x.com/the_real_coach/status/2027258219740213375

    Coach did get a lot of airtime but I think Ozzy got the most of anyone.
    The OG players seemed to have gotten the most airtime by far even though
    I thought they were playing much worse than the New Era people.

    --I'm already over Aubry and Jonathan.


    Jonathan's only reason for being in the season seems to be his
    strength and size.-a He and Joe ought to get along well because in many
    ways they are the same player.

    Jonathan's on because Boston Rob trained him for three years and
    probably highly recommended him to Jeff.


    That may be true, but I doubt Rob has that kind of influence over
    casting decisions. I think Jonathan just fits an archetype they wanted
    to make sure was represented on the show.

    FWIW Rob supposedly summarized the advice he gave Jonathan in a letter
    he gave him to read on the plane to Fiji. Rob's major points:

    1) Smile
    2) Look at the game through the opponent's eyes
    3) Control what you can control

    You can judge for yourself how astute that advice may or may not be.

    Aubry surprised me in her scenes with Gen.-a The two seem to be very
    similar and on paper you'd think they should get along well, but Aubry
    seemed really closed off and suspicious of Gen.-a No idea what that was
    about.-a Aubry's got a chip on her shoulder and I'm not really sure
    what that's about.-a When she and Gen have their glasses on they could
    almost pass as sisters.-a Does Aubry resent the new girl in town
    adopting her persona?

    I think Aubry's still butt hurt that she didn't win S32. She probably
    sees Gen as a major obstacle and someone who's a better player than her.
    If Aubry's trying to be like Gen it's not working. At least not for me.

    --Gen seems to have done her homework. If she can get rid of Aubry
    ASAP I think she'll be in good shape going forward.

    --Casting Q was a good move. He's entertaining and I love that he's
    -- having fun playing the game.

    --Colby telling Savannah he has bad hearing in his left ear was
    totally unexpected. The Dee teeth scene was funny.

    --When Savannah told her tribe that she won S49 I wonder if they
    asked her about Rizzo. Hopefully we find out if those two came up
    with a story before heading out to play S50.


    They definitely would have asked about Riz-boy, and I really wonder
    what she told everyone.-a For that matter, Riz's teammates would
    clearly have also asked him how he and Savannah did and I wonder what
    he told everyone.-a I'm sure he and Savannah had to have talked
    pre-season to get their stories straight with one another.

    We know via Kyle that Rizo told his tribe that Savannah won, he lost in fire, and that he and Savannah were not close. I imagine she told her
    tribe the same story.

    --I was not expecting to see Exile Island return.

    --It looks like SITDs are gone this season unless Cirie knew well in
    advance of TC that Jenna was going home by a vote of 7rCo1.


    I haven't heard anything about SITD this year, but I believe Cirie is
    well-enough connected that she probably knew she was safe.

    She and Ozzy both definitely knew. I'm just wondering when they knew.

    --Did Christian screw himself by making such a huge fire using just
    eye glasses?


    I don't know if he screwed himself, but I have been wondering for
    years why people don't try more often to start a fire with glasses.
    Even a person who doesn't normally wear glasses could bring a pair of
    reading glasses that would have the right magnifiers to start a fire.
    I thought what he did was great.

    Was there not a season long ago where someone used their glasses to
    start a fire? After Christian's explanation last night I can see future players bringing glasses with them. It would be funny if production
    started to ask to see prescriptions to try and prevent people from "cheating."


    It's been done a few times successfully, most recently by Dale Wentworth
    who deliberately broke his glasses to double-up on the lenses. Also,
    Yau Man famously came up with the idea of putting a drop of water on his already thick lens to increase the magnification, and one of his
    teammates got a fire started that way. But many others have failed
    using glasses to try to make fire, and I don't think we've seen anyone
    even try it in many years.

    I'm not sure the show would try to stop this because they want the
    players to use ingenuity to try to get a fire started. In fact, when
    Yau Man made it work in S14, I believe Jeff was so impressed he gave the
    tribe flint as an unplanned reward.

    BTW, you don't need a prescription for reading glasses, which you can
    buy in a drug store or dollar store, since they are basically just
    magnifying lenses for someone who is farsighted and just can't read
    things close up.

    --I'm glad they cast Emily. She seems a lot more at ease than she did
    at the start of S45 and people want to work with her.


    Well she did get married after her prior season, so I'm sure she is
    more confident and self-assured now.

    It's kind of funny she got married. At the time of S45 she said they had been together for 12 years and basically had no desire to get married.


    So they were together since she was 16? She was 28 for her initial
    season and 30 for this one. She definitely seemed more mature and self-controlled this time.

    Did you notice Jeff addressed her as "Flippen" at least once? Guess she
    has made the big time now being addressed by her last name.

    --Rizzo gave Colby some great advice. Hopefully he heard it.


    Wasn't it Colby who gave Rizo the advice?

    I'm talking about early on in the episode where Colby was building the shelter and Rizo was sitting on his ass. Rizo told him the new game is
    much faster paced and basically that being a provider doesn't count for much. Devans essentially said the same thing about Ozzy in a confessional.


    He's right if you're talking about all new players, but with so many old schoolers in the cast, it will be interesting to see how the Colbys and
    Ozzies feel about this. I think one of the reasons we don't see more providers among the New Era people is that they usually just don't have
    those kind of skills. People like Rizo and Gen and Kamilla, etc.,
    probably don't send a lot of time camping and hunting. But
    old-schoolers might.

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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Sat Feb 28 14:34:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/27/2026 6:18 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/27/2026 6:42 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 4:37 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 3:42 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 8:52 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 11:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me
    of Danni in Winners at War.


    Agree.-a She really showed a lack of understanding on the modern
    game, and she totally failed to follow the usual rule of trying to
    stay low- key in the beginning and assess what others think before
    plunging ahead with your own strategy.-a But she wasn't wrong to
    target Cirie. she just went about it the wrong way.

    Sounds like she might also have rubbed people the wrong way. Devans
    tweeted this about 90 minutes ago with a screenshot to part of her
    exit interview with Dalton.

    I think there's a BIG difference between playing hard establishing
    relationships (which the rest of Cila did) and playing hard throwing
    out names (which ONLY Jenna did before losing the Immunity
    Challenge). She also came to this "beyotch" WAY LATE in the processrLiN+A >>>> Interview on EW

    https://x.com/Rick_Devens/status/2027087979852734856

    Kyle being pulled from the game due to injury really sucks. I
    wonder if that will help Dee and Savannah, and how it will impact >>>>>> Kamilla when she finds out.


    I think Kamilla will be all right.-a I think she felt a little
    constrained by being in Kyle's shadow and this will give her a
    chance to branch out on her own a bit.

    Not having to worry about the link between them should help her.
    Possibly could also make Joe willing to work with her if they end up
    on the same tribe together or both make the merge.

    The impact on Dee and Savannah will likely be negative, if
    anything, because it will focus attention more on them as the only
    two prior winners.-a Kyle was almost a shield and might have been
    the first target of the three assuming all three made it to the merge. >>>>
    I'm worried for Savannah. She got way more airtime than I was
    expecting which can often be a bad sign this early in the game. The
    Journey screwed her over as the rest of her tribe doesn't believe
    her story. Technically she didn't lie as she doesn't get the BE idol
    unless Ozzy gets blindsided with the idol still in his pocket.


    She did get a lot of air time, but remember that she is very camera
    and TV-saavy,-a and she handles herself very well.

    100%!

    I think she will be okay pre-merge because she is very strong in
    challenges and I think everyone will see that.-a-a-a She also benefits
    by having Cirie as whatever the opposite of a meat shield is.-a Cirie
    is of no value in challenges and I think is likely to be the next
    person to go, assuming they go back to TC soon.

    As far as I'm concerned, it would be a huge mistake to let Cirie get
    anywhere near the end. If she makes F3 she'll probably win. Savannah,
    on the other hand, might benefit from being a previous winner. The
    others might think the jury would never vote for a past winner to win
    let alone let Savannah become the first back-to-back winner. I would
    love to see Savannah win just to see the New Era haters go crazy.


    Well that strategy didn't work for Sandra when she returned for Game Changers.-a As the only two-time winner to that point, I think she tried
    to make the case that no one could possibly vote for her to win an unprecedented third time.-a That strategy fell flat and she was the sixth person voted out.

    Cirie's never won despite having played four (U.S.) times already. She
    might get a bit of a pass because of that.

    As much as I would love it if Savannah somehow won back-to-back seasons,
    and I will be rooting for that, I think she and Dee will both be
    targeted early post-merge, especially as both are possibilities to win a string of immunities which wasn't even the case with Sandra.

    Dee for sure. They have no idea how much of a challenge beast Savannah
    was in S49 unless Rizo stabs her in the back which I don't see happening.

    As for Cirie, I agree that she needs to be voted out pre-merge when she
    is such a liability - otherwise, she could be a lock to make it to F3
    and possibly win.-a I believe she will be next to go if her tribe goes to
    TC again, but knowing how things go, there will almost certainly be a
    tribe swap after a few more episodes.-a She could get lucky.

    With so many players I really hope they skip doing tribe swaps this
    season. It takes strategy out of the game too much.

    Biggest surprise for me was that the top two winners in the IC won
    immunity.-a With so many players this year, I thought for sure they >>>>> would begin eliminating two players per episode until they get the
    numbers down a bit.

    I think CBS might have mislead Dalton, etc. Last night was more like
    one two hour episode with Kyle's injury and removal from the game as
    an add on. I have to give production, etc. credit for keeping Kyle's
    injury, etc. a secret. I saw nothing online to suggest that anyone
    was removed from the game for medical reasons.


    Agree.-a I was really confused that so much time was left after TC but
    not enough for a complete episode.-a It never dawned on me that we
    could have an injury evacuation.

    Not only that, but Kyle would have been one of the last people I would
    have guessed to go out due to an injury during a challenge.


    The unfortunate irony is that Kyle had actually made it up the ramp successfully (which wasn't shown) and he only went back down to help
    Colby, who had helped other players up and was the last one remaining at
    the bottom.-a Unfortunately, he could not make his way back up the muddy ramp, so Kyle went back down to help Colby up and then had to try to
    climb back up the muddy ramp, which is how he injured himself.-a The multiple trips are what put excessive strain on his Achilles and caused
    the injury.

    One little tidbit from his interviews today.-a When they showed the
    doctor putting pressure on the bad leg, you could see his toes react
    ever so slightly.-a Kyle admitted he actually was making his toes move in
    a failed attempt to convince them to let him stay, but the doctor saw through the ruse.-a Kyle said he was flown home immediately after one
    night at Ponderosa (where Jenna apparently greeted him warmly), and he
    ended up getting surgery five days after he got home.

    Some more comments from me.

    --A lot of players trying to reinvent themselves. This is one area
    where Rizzo and Savannah have an advantage. Savannah also seems to
    have realized and addressed her weakness in S49 of not getting to
    know the other players better.

    --I thought Chrissy was playing very sloppily.


    I didn't recognize Chrissy, and I don't mean just physically.-a I
    don't remember her playing so haphazardly, though I guess it has been
    several years.

    I still can't over how different she looks. I'm pretty sure she played
    a much more rational game in S35(?).

    --Mike White subtly throwing Coach UTB was impressive. Coach was
    completely blindsided by that move.


    Coach also got a lot of air time, and if that means he's leaving
    sooner rather than later, I'd be okay with that.-a Coach really hurt
    his brand by stealing Ozzie's key the way he did, and I suspect he
    probably regrets doing it.

    I don't think he does.

    https://x.com/the_real_coach/status/2027258219740213375

    Coach did get a lot of airtime but I think Ozzy got the most of
    anyone. The OG players seemed to have gotten the most airtime by far
    even though I thought they were playing much worse than the New Era
    people.

    --I'm already over Aubry and Jonathan.


    Jonathan's only reason for being in the season seems to be his
    strength and size.-a He and Joe ought to get along well because in
    many ways they are the same player.

    Jonathan's on because Boston Rob trained him for three years and
    probably highly recommended him to Jeff.


    That may be true, but I doubt Rob has that kind of influence over
    casting decisions.-a I think Jonathan just fits an archetype they wanted
    to make sure was represented on the show.

    Watch the live feed from Monday night. There's no question Boston Rob
    had a big say in Jonathan being cast.

    FWIW Rob supposedly summarized the advice he gave Jonathan in a letter
    he gave him to read on the plane to Fiji.-a Rob's major points:

    1) Smile
    2) Look at the game through the opponent's eyes
    3) Control what you can control

    You can judge for yourself how astute that advice may or may not be.

    He's not going to summarize three years worth of training in a letter.

    Aubry surprised me in her scenes with Gen.-a The two seem to be very
    similar and on paper you'd think they should get along well, but
    Aubry seemed really closed off and suspicious of Gen.-a No idea what
    that was about.-a Aubry's got a chip on her shoulder and I'm not
    really sure what that's about.-a When she and Gen have their glasses
    on they could almost pass as sisters.-a Does Aubry resent the new girl
    in town adopting her persona?

    I think Aubry's still butt hurt that she didn't win S32. She probably
    sees Gen as a major obstacle and someone who's a better player than
    her. If Aubry's trying to be like Gen it's not working. At least not
    for me.

    --Gen seems to have done her homework. If she can get rid of Aubry
    ASAP I think she'll be in good shape going forward.

    --Casting Q was a good move. He's entertaining and I love that he's
    -- having fun playing the game.

    --Colby telling Savannah he has bad hearing in his left ear was
    totally unexpected. The Dee teeth scene was funny.

    --When Savannah told her tribe that she won S49 I wonder if they
    asked her about Rizzo. Hopefully we find out if those two came up
    with a story before heading out to play S50.


    They definitely would have asked about Riz-boy, and I really wonder
    what she told everyone.-a For that matter, Riz's teammates would
    clearly have also asked him how he and Savannah did and I wonder what
    he told everyone.-a I'm sure he and Savannah had to have talked pre-
    season to get their stories straight with one another.

    We know via Kyle that Rizo told his tribe that Savannah won, he lost
    in fire, and that he and Savannah were not close. I imagine she told
    her tribe the same story.

    --I was not expecting to see Exile Island return.

    --It looks like SITDs are gone this season unless Cirie knew well in
    advance of TC that Jenna was going home by a vote of 7rCo1.


    I haven't heard anything about SITD this year, but I believe Cirie is
    well-enough connected that she probably knew she was safe.

    She and Ozzy both definitely knew. I'm just wondering when they knew.

    --Did Christian screw himself by making such a huge fire using just
    eye glasses?


    I don't know if he screwed himself, but I have been wondering for
    years why people don't try more often to start a fire with glasses.
    Even a person who doesn't normally wear glasses could bring a pair of
    reading glasses that would have the right magnifiers to start a fire.
    I thought what he did was great.

    Was there not a season long ago where someone used their glasses to
    start a fire? After Christian's explanation last night I can see
    future players bringing glasses with them. It would be funny if
    production started to ask to see prescriptions to try and prevent
    people from "cheating."


    It's been done a few times successfully, most recently by Dale Wentworth
    who deliberately broke his glasses to double-up on the lenses.-a-a Also,
    Yau Man famously came up with the idea of putting a drop of water on his already thick lens to increase the magnification, and one of his
    teammates got a fire started that way.-a But many others have failed
    using glasses to try to make fire, and I don't think we've seen anyone
    even try it in many years.

    Yau Man was great.

    I'm not sure the show would try to stop this because they want the
    players to use ingenuity to try to get a fire started.-a-a In fact, when
    Yau Man made it work in S14, I believe Jeff was so impressed he gave the tribe flint as an unplanned reward.

    BTW, you don't need a prescription for reading glasses, which you can
    buy in a drug store or dollar store, since they are basically just magnifying lenses for someone who is farsighted and just can't read
    things close up.

    Good point! Future players need to study up on eye glass lenses so they
    can go out and do some testing at home.

    --I'm glad they cast Emily. She seems a lot more at ease than she
    did at the start of S45 and people want to work with her.


    Well she did get married after her prior season, so I'm sure she is
    more confident and self-assured now.

    It's kind of funny she got married. At the time of S45 she said they
    had been together for 12 years and basically had no desire to get
    married.


    So they were together since she was 16?-a She was 28 for her initial
    season and 30 for this one.-a She definitely seemed more mature and self- controlled this time.

    Yes, she was very young. IIRC, there was a bonus scene for one of the
    S45 episodes where she discussed her relationship. Dealing with all of
    the attention she got after her season probably helped her a lot and did wonders for her self-esteem. She's one of the rare players where
    everyone seems to love her.

    Did you notice Jeff addressed her as "Flippen" at least once?-a Guess she has made the big time now being addressed by her last name.

    I missed that but I did hear at least one player address her by
    "Flippen." IIRC, she made a huge positive impact on Jeff at the Survivor Auction in S45.

    On a bit of a side note, in the online battle Jenna and Devans are
    having, she's pissed that Devans, Christian, and Emily pregamed
    together. I'd like to know how they got to know each other. I can't
    recall seeing them together at a Survivor event.

    --Rizzo gave Colby some great advice. Hopefully he heard it.


    Wasn't it Colby who gave Rizo the advice?

    I'm talking about early on in the episode where Colby was building the
    shelter and Rizo was sitting on his ass. Rizo told him the new game is
    much faster paced and basically that being a provider doesn't count
    for much. Devans essentially said the same thing about Ozzy in a
    confessional.


    He's right if you're talking about all new players, but with so many old schoolers in the cast, it will be interesting to see how the Colbys and Ozzies feel about this.-a I think one of the reasons we don't see more providers among the New Era people is that they usually just don't have those kind of skills.-a People like Rizo and Gen and Kamilla, etc.,
    probably don't send a lot of time camping and hunting.-a But old-
    schoolers might.

    New Era barely shows us people trying to get food. It's very possible a
    lot of them are good at fishing, etc. Rizo would not be one of them.
    --
    Brian
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    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 2/28/2026 4:34 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/27/2026 6:18 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/27/2026 6:42 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 4:37 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 3:42 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/26/2026 8:52 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 11:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 2/25/2026 6:08 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Epic Party." Three hour episode!

    More later. Much later!

    Couple of quick comments for now.

    First called, first out. Horrible gameplay by Jenna. Reminded me >>>>>>> of Danni in Winners at War.


    Agree.-a She really showed a lack of understanding on the modern
    game, and she totally failed to follow the usual rule of trying to >>>>>> stay low- key in the beginning and assess what others think before >>>>>> plunging ahead with your own strategy.-a But she wasn't wrong to
    target Cirie. she just went about it the wrong way.

    Sounds like she might also have rubbed people the wrong way. Devans >>>>> tweeted this about 90 minutes ago with a screenshot to part of her
    exit interview with Dalton.

    I think there's a BIG difference between playing hard establishing
    relationships (which the rest of Cila did) and playing hard
    throwing out names (which ONLY Jenna did before losing the Immunity >>>>> Challenge). She also came to this "beyotch" WAY LATE in the
    processrLiN+A Interview on EW

    https://x.com/Rick_Devens/status/2027087979852734856

    Kyle being pulled from the game due to injury really sucks. I
    wonder if that will help Dee and Savannah, and how it will impact >>>>>>> Kamilla when she finds out.


    I think Kamilla will be all right.-a I think she felt a little
    constrained by being in Kyle's shadow and this will give her a
    chance to branch out on her own a bit.

    Not having to worry about the link between them should help her.
    Possibly could also make Joe willing to work with her if they end
    up on the same tribe together or both make the merge.

    The impact on Dee and Savannah will likely be negative, if
    anything, because it will focus attention more on them as the only >>>>>> two prior winners.-a Kyle was almost a shield and might have been >>>>>> the first target of the three assuming all three made it to the
    merge.

    I'm worried for Savannah. She got way more airtime than I was
    expecting which can often be a bad sign this early in the game. The >>>>> Journey screwed her over as the rest of her tribe doesn't believe
    her story. Technically she didn't lie as she doesn't get the BE
    idol unless Ozzy gets blindsided with the idol still in his pocket.


    She did get a lot of air time, but remember that she is very camera
    and TV-saavy,-a and she handles herself very well.

    100%!

    I think she will be okay pre-merge because she is very strong in
    challenges and I think everyone will see that.-a-a-a She also benefits >>>> by having Cirie as whatever the opposite of a meat shield is.-a Cirie >>>> is of no value in challenges and I think is likely to be the next
    person to go, assuming they go back to TC soon.

    As far as I'm concerned, it would be a huge mistake to let Cirie get
    anywhere near the end. If she makes F3 she'll probably win. Savannah,
    on the other hand, might benefit from being a previous winner. The
    others might think the jury would never vote for a past winner to win
    let alone let Savannah become the first back-to-back winner. I would
    love to see Savannah win just to see the New Era haters go crazy.


    Well that strategy didn't work for Sandra when she returned for Game
    Changers.-a As the only two-time winner to that point, I think she
    tried to make the case that no one could possibly vote for her to win
    an unprecedented third time.-a That strategy fell flat and she was the
    sixth person voted out.

    Cirie's never won despite having played four (U.S.) times already. She
    might get a bit of a pass because of that.

    As much as I would love it if Savannah somehow won back-to-back
    seasons, and I will be rooting for that, I think she and Dee will both
    be targeted early post-merge, especially as both are possibilities to
    win a string of immunities which wasn't even the case with Sandra.

    Dee for sure. They have no idea how much of a challenge beast Savannah
    was in S49 unless Rizo stabs her in the back which I don't see happening.

    As for Cirie, I agree that she needs to be voted out pre-merge when
    she is such a liability - otherwise, she could be a lock to make it to
    F3 and possibly win.-a I believe she will be next to go if her tribe
    goes to TC again, but knowing how things go, there will almost
    certainly be a tribe swap after a few more episodes.-a She could get
    lucky.

    With so many players I really hope they skip doing tribe swaps this
    season. It takes strategy out of the game too much.

    Biggest surprise for me was that the top two winners in the IC won >>>>>> immunity.-a With so many players this year, I thought for sure they >>>>>> would begin eliminating two players per episode until they get the >>>>>> numbers down a bit.

    I think CBS might have mislead Dalton, etc. Last night was more
    like one two hour episode with Kyle's injury and removal from the
    game as an add on. I have to give production, etc. credit for
    keeping Kyle's injury, etc. a secret. I saw nothing online to
    suggest that anyone was removed from the game for medical reasons.


    Agree.-a I was really confused that so much time was left after TC
    but not enough for a complete episode.-a It never dawned on me that
    we could have an injury evacuation.

    Not only that, but Kyle would have been one of the last people I
    would have guessed to go out due to an injury during a challenge.


    The unfortunate irony is that Kyle had actually made it up the ramp
    successfully (which wasn't shown) and he only went back down to help
    Colby, who had helped other players up and was the last one remaining
    at the bottom.-a Unfortunately, he could not make his way back up the
    muddy ramp, so Kyle went back down to help Colby up and then had to
    try to climb back up the muddy ramp, which is how he injured himself.
    The multiple trips are what put excessive strain on his Achilles and
    caused the injury.

    One little tidbit from his interviews today.-a When they showed the
    doctor putting pressure on the bad leg, you could see his toes react
    ever so slightly.-a Kyle admitted he actually was making his toes move
    in a failed attempt to convince them to let him stay, but the doctor
    saw through the ruse.-a Kyle said he was flown home immediately after
    one night at Ponderosa (where Jenna apparently greeted him warmly),
    and he ended up getting surgery five days after he got home.

    Some more comments from me.

    --A lot of players trying to reinvent themselves. This is one area
    where Rizzo and Savannah have an advantage. Savannah also seems to
    have realized and addressed her weakness in S49 of not getting to
    know the other players better.

    --I thought Chrissy was playing very sloppily.


    I didn't recognize Chrissy, and I don't mean just physically.-a I
    don't remember her playing so haphazardly, though I guess it has
    been several years.

    I still can't over how different she looks. I'm pretty sure she
    played a much more rational game in S35(?).

    --Mike White subtly throwing Coach UTB was impressive. Coach was
    completely blindsided by that move.


    Coach also got a lot of air time, and if that means he's leaving
    sooner rather than later, I'd be okay with that.-a Coach really hurt
    his brand by stealing Ozzie's key the way he did, and I suspect he
    probably regrets doing it.

    I don't think he does.

    https://x.com/the_real_coach/status/2027258219740213375

    Coach did get a lot of airtime but I think Ozzy got the most of
    anyone. The OG players seemed to have gotten the most airtime by far
    even though I thought they were playing much worse than the New Era
    people.

    --I'm already over Aubry and Jonathan.


    Jonathan's only reason for being in the season seems to be his
    strength and size.-a He and Joe ought to get along well because in
    many ways they are the same player.

    Jonathan's on because Boston Rob trained him for three years and
    probably highly recommended him to Jeff.


    That may be true, but I doubt Rob has that kind of influence over
    casting decisions.-a I think Jonathan just fits an archetype they
    wanted to make sure was represented on the show.

    Watch the live feed from Monday night. There's no question Boston Rob
    had a big say in Jonathan being cast.

    FWIW Rob supposedly summarized the advice he gave Jonathan in a letter
    he gave him to read on the plane to Fiji.-a Rob's major points:

    1) Smile
    2) Look at the game through the opponent's eyes
    3) Control what you can control

    You can judge for yourself how astute that advice may or may not be.

    He's not going to summarize three years worth of training in a letter.

    Aubry surprised me in her scenes with Gen.-a The two seem to be very
    similar and on paper you'd think they should get along well, but
    Aubry seemed really closed off and suspicious of Gen.-a No idea what
    that was about.-a Aubry's got a chip on her shoulder and I'm not
    really sure what that's about.-a When she and Gen have their glasses
    on they could almost pass as sisters.-a Does Aubry resent the new
    girl in town adopting her persona?

    I think Aubry's still butt hurt that she didn't win S32. She probably
    sees Gen as a major obstacle and someone who's a better player than
    her. If Aubry's trying to be like Gen it's not working. At least not
    for me.

    --Gen seems to have done her homework. If she can get rid of Aubry
    ASAP I think she'll be in good shape going forward.

    --Casting Q was a good move. He's entertaining and I love that he's >>>>> -- having fun playing the game.

    --Colby telling Savannah he has bad hearing in his left ear was
    totally unexpected. The Dee teeth scene was funny.

    --When Savannah told her tribe that she won S49 I wonder if they
    asked her about Rizzo. Hopefully we find out if those two came up
    with a story before heading out to play S50.


    They definitely would have asked about Riz-boy, and I really wonder
    what she told everyone.-a For that matter, Riz's teammates would
    clearly have also asked him how he and Savannah did and I wonder
    what he told everyone.-a I'm sure he and Savannah had to have talked
    pre- season to get their stories straight with one another.

    We know via Kyle that Rizo told his tribe that Savannah won, he lost
    in fire, and that he and Savannah were not close. I imagine she told
    her tribe the same story.

    --I was not expecting to see Exile Island return.

    --It looks like SITDs are gone this season unless Cirie knew well
    in advance of TC that Jenna was going home by a vote of 7rCo1.


    I haven't heard anything about SITD this year, but I believe Cirie
    is well-enough connected that she probably knew she was safe.

    She and Ozzy both definitely knew. I'm just wondering when they knew.

    --Did Christian screw himself by making such a huge fire using just >>>>> eye glasses?


    I don't know if he screwed himself, but I have been wondering for
    years why people don't try more often to start a fire with glasses.
    Even a person who doesn't normally wear glasses could bring a pair
    of reading glasses that would have the right magnifiers to start a
    fire. I thought what he did was great.

    Was there not a season long ago where someone used their glasses to
    start a fire? After Christian's explanation last night I can see
    future players bringing glasses with them. It would be funny if
    production started to ask to see prescriptions to try and prevent
    people from "cheating."


    It's been done a few times successfully, most recently by Dale
    Wentworth who deliberately broke his glasses to double-up on the
    lenses.-a-a Also, Yau Man famously came up with the idea of putting a
    drop of water on his already thick lens to increase the magnification,
    and one of his teammates got a fire started that way.-a But many others
    have failed using glasses to try to make fire, and I don't think we've
    seen anyone even try it in many years.

    Yau Man was great.

    Yup. Too bad he got so royally screwed by Dreamz.

    I'm not sure the show would try to stop this because they want the
    players to use ingenuity to try to get a fire started.-a-a In fact, when
    Yau Man made it work in S14, I believe Jeff was so impressed he gave
    the tribe flint as an unplanned reward.

    BTW, you don't need a prescription for reading glasses, which you can
    buy in a drug store or dollar store, since they are basically just
    magnifying lenses for someone who is farsighted and just can't read
    things close up.

    Good point! Future players need to study up on eye glass lenses so they
    can go out and do some testing at home.

    --I'm glad they cast Emily. She seems a lot more at ease than she
    did at the start of S45 and people want to work with her.


    Well she did get married after her prior season, so I'm sure she is
    more confident and self-assured now.

    It's kind of funny she got married. At the time of S45 she said they
    had been together for 12 years and basically had no desire to get
    married.


    So they were together since she was 16?-a She was 28 for her initial
    season and 30 for this one.-a She definitely seemed more mature and
    self- controlled this time.

    Yes, she was very young. IIRC, there was a bonus scene for one of the
    S45 episodes where she discussed her relationship. Dealing with all of
    the attention she got after her season probably helped her a lot and did wonders for her self-esteem. She's one of the rare players where
    everyone seems to love her.

    Except Bruce, maybe?


    Did you notice Jeff addressed her as "Flippen" at least once?-a Guess
    she has made the big time now being addressed by her last name.

    I missed that but I did hear at least one player address her by
    "Flippen." IIRC, she made a huge positive impact on Jeff at the Survivor Auction in S45.

    On a bit of a side note, in the online battle Jenna and Devans are
    having, she's pissed that Devans, Christian, and Emily pregamed
    together. I'd like to know how they got to know each other. I can't
    recall seeing them together at a Survivor event.


    I presumed they either met privately or, more likely, they either Face
    timed or did Zoom calls.

    --Rizzo gave Colby some great advice. Hopefully he heard it.


    Wasn't it Colby who gave Rizo the advice?

    I'm talking about early on in the episode where Colby was building
    the shelter and Rizo was sitting on his ass. Rizo told him the new
    game is much faster paced and basically that being a provider doesn't
    count for much. Devans essentially said the same thing about Ozzy in
    a confessional.


    He's right if you're talking about all new players, but with so many
    old schoolers in the cast, it will be interesting to see how the
    Colbys and Ozzies feel about this.-a I think one of the reasons we
    don't see more providers among the New Era people is that they usually
    just don't have those kind of skills.-a People like Rizo and Gen and
    Kamilla, etc., probably don't send a lot of time camping and hunting.
    But old- schoolers might.

    New Era barely shows us people trying to get food. It's very possible a
    lot of them are good at fishing, etc. Rizo would not be one of them.


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