• Clip from Jawan's exit interview with Dalton

    From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Mon Dec 1 15:40:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    Jawan talks about race conversations with MC and Kristina both on the
    island and off when it comes to putting Black players on the #Survivor jury.

    Full interview at the link: https://ew.com/survivor-49-jawan-pitts-reveals-smuggled-french-fries-in-sock-interview-11858868

    https://x.com/DaltonRoss/status/1995533249607598455

    Did the comments about Kristina give something away?
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    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Mon Dec 1 21:04:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 12/1/2025 5:40 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Jawan talks about race conversations with MC and Kristina both on the
    island and off when it comes to putting Black players on the #Survivor
    jury.

    Full interview at the link: https://ew.com/survivor-49-jawan-pitts-reveals-smuggled-french-fries-in-sock-interview-11858868

    https://x.com/DaltonRoss/status/1995533249607598455

    Did the comments about Kristina give something away?


    He is saying substantially the same thing in other interviews he is
    doing today. What I find interesting is that he and MC clearly discussed Season 42 and concerns about black players being sent to the jury, but
    like the whispering session at that one TC, the show chose not to
    include any of this in the final edit. I think there was a pretty
    strong backlash from all the racial talk in S41 and S42, and the show
    has learned from that and is making sure it doesn't dominate the "story"
    for this season.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Mon Dec 1 19:36:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 12/1/2025 7:04 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 5:40 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Jawan talks about race conversations with MC and Kristina both on the
    island and off when it comes to putting Black players on the #Survivor
    jury.

    Full interview at the link: https://ew.com/survivor-49-jawan-pitts-
    reveals-smuggled-french-fries-in-sock-interview-11858868

    https://x.com/DaltonRoss/status/1995533249607598455

    Did the comments about Kristina give something away?


    He is saying substantially the same thing in other interviews he is
    doing today. What I find interesting is that he and MC clearly discussed Season 42 and concerns about black players being sent to the jury, but
    like the whispering session at that one TC, the show chose not to
    include any of this in the final edit.-a I think there was a pretty
    strong backlash from all the racial talk in S41 and S42, and the show
    has learned from that and is making sure it doesn't dominate the "story"
    for this season.

    The show definitely remembers how turned off many people were by the
    racial talk in S41 and S42. Concerning S42, did MC and Jawan forget that
    a black person won that season?

    As for Kristina, I don't recall them showing or even hinting that she
    was part of the jury talk. Do she and Jawan talk at Ponderosa? Is she
    next to go? My read was that Jawan was not buying the black players are
    being targeted crap MC was selling. He was there to win money for his
    family. MC would have fit in perfectly with the S42 cast.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Tue Dec 2 10:51:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 12/1/2025 9:36 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 7:04 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 5:40 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Jawan talks about race conversations with MC and Kristina both on the
    island and off when it comes to putting Black players on the
    #Survivor jury.

    Full interview at the link: https://ew.com/survivor-49-jawan-pitts-
    reveals-smuggled-french-fries-in-sock-interview-11858868

    https://x.com/DaltonRoss/status/1995533249607598455

    Did the comments about Kristina give something away?


    He is saying substantially the same thing in other interviews he is
    doing today. What I find interesting is that he and MC clearly
    discussed Season 42 and concerns about black players being sent to the
    jury, but like the whispering session at that one TC, the show chose
    not to include any of this in the final edit.-a I think there was a
    pretty strong backlash from all the racial talk in S41 and S42, and
    the show has learned from that and is making sure it doesn't dominate
    the "story" for this season.

    The show definitely remembers how turned off many people were by the
    racial talk in S41 and S42. Concerning S42, did MC and Jawan forget that
    a black person won that season?

    As for Kristina, I don't recall them showing or even hinting that she
    was part of the jury talk. Do she and Jawan talk at Ponderosa? Is she
    next to go? My read was that Jawan was not buying the black players are being targeted crap MC was selling. He was there to win money for his family. MC would have fit in perfectly with the S42 cast.


    My take is that Jawan and Kristina probably talked about it on the
    beach, but it was just never shown. As far as I can recall, there was
    never any racial talk in the edit, other than the whispering at TC where
    they did not reveal what was said. There is no reason to assume Jawan
    and Kristina discussed this at Ponderosa, which of course would imply
    that Kristina gets voted out at some point.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Tue Dec 2 12:44:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 12/2/2025 8:51 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 9:36 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 7:04 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 5:40 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Jawan talks about race conversations with MC and Kristina both on
    the island and off when it comes to putting Black players on the
    #Survivor jury.

    Full interview at the link: https://ew.com/survivor-49-jawan-pitts-
    reveals-smuggled-french-fries-in-sock-interview-11858868

    https://x.com/DaltonRoss/status/1995533249607598455

    Did the comments about Kristina give something away?


    He is saying substantially the same thing in other interviews he is
    doing today. What I find interesting is that he and MC clearly
    discussed Season 42 and concerns about black players being sent to
    the jury, but like the whispering session at that one TC, the show
    chose not to include any of this in the final edit.-a I think there
    was a pretty strong backlash from all the racial talk in S41 and S42,
    and the show has learned from that and is making sure it doesn't
    dominate the "story" for this season.

    The show definitely remembers how turned off many people were by the
    racial talk in S41 and S42. Concerning S42, did MC and Jawan forget
    that a black person won that season?

    As for Kristina, I don't recall them showing or even hinting that she
    was part of the jury talk. Do she and Jawan talk at Ponderosa? Is she
    next to go? My read was that Jawan was not buying the black players
    are being targeted crap MC was selling. He was there to win money for
    his family. MC would have fit in perfectly with the S42 cast.


    My take is that Jawan and Kristina probably talked about it on the
    beach, but it was just never shown.-a As far as I can recall, there was never any racial talk in the edit, other than the whispering at TC where they did not reveal what was said.-a There is no reason to assume Jawan
    and Kristina discussed this at Ponderosa, which of course would imply
    that Kristina gets voted out at some point.

    It really sucks they stopped doing the classic Ponderosa videos. In the
    old days we would have had a much better idea of what was going on.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Tue Dec 2 15:22:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 12/2/2025 2:34 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 2:44 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 8:51 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 9:36 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 7:04 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 5:40 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Jawan talks about race conversations with MC and Kristina both on >>>>>> the island and off when it comes to putting Black players on the
    #Survivor jury.

    Full interview at the link: https://ew.com/survivor-49-jawan-
    pitts- reveals-smuggled-french-fries-in-sock-interview-11858868

    https://x.com/DaltonRoss/status/1995533249607598455

    Did the comments about Kristina give something away?


    He is saying substantially the same thing in other interviews he is >>>>> doing today. What I find interesting is that he and MC clearly
    discussed Season 42 and concerns about black players being sent to
    the jury, but like the whispering session at that one TC, the show
    chose not to include any of this in the final edit.-a I think there >>>>> was a pretty strong backlash from all the racial talk in S41 and
    S42, and the show has learned from that and is making sure it
    doesn't dominate the "story" for this season.

    The show definitely remembers how turned off many people were by the
    racial talk in S41 and S42. Concerning S42, did MC and Jawan forget
    that a black person won that season?

    As for Kristina, I don't recall them showing or even hinting that
    she was part of the jury talk. Do she and Jawan talk at Ponderosa?
    Is she next to go? My read was that Jawan was not buying the black
    players are being targeted crap MC was selling. He was there to win
    money for his family. MC would have fit in perfectly with the S42 cast. >>>>

    My take is that Jawan and Kristina probably talked about it on the
    beach, but it was just never shown.-a As far as I can recall, there
    was never any racial talk in the edit, other than the whispering at
    TC where they did not reveal what was said.-a There is no reason to
    assume Jawan and Kristina discussed this at Ponderosa, which of
    course would imply that Kristina gets voted out at some point.

    It really sucks they stopped doing the classic Ponderosa videos. In
    the old days we would have had a much better idea of what was going on.


    Agreed. Only thing I can figure is that the videos weren't getting
    enough views to justify the costs of producing and editing the videos.
    They stopped doing these around the same time they reduced the length of
    the season and made several budget cuts.

    IIRC, we did have Ponderosa videos for S41 and S42. We still sometimes
    get mini Ponderosa videos posted to IG, but they're basically
    confessional type videos for the most part.

    BTW, I listened to Jawan's interviews with Rob and Mike today and he did
    say at one point that he and Christina had a "long talk in the woods"
    about the racial makeup of the jury, so that confirms they did talk
    about it.

    Interesting. That pretty well confirms the show tried to hide the racial
    talk. Do you think Dalton will have the balls to ask Jeff about the next
    time he interviews him?
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Tue Dec 2 18:17:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 12/2/2025 5:22 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 2:34 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 2:44 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 8:51 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 9:36 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 7:04 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 5:40 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Jawan talks about race conversations with MC and Kristina both on >>>>>>> the island and off when it comes to putting Black players on the >>>>>>> #Survivor jury.

    Full interview at the link: https://ew.com/survivor-49-jawan-
    pitts- reveals-smuggled-french-fries-in-sock-interview-11858868

    https://x.com/DaltonRoss/status/1995533249607598455

    Did the comments about Kristina give something away?


    He is saying substantially the same thing in other interviews he
    is doing today. What I find interesting is that he and MC clearly >>>>>> discussed Season 42 and concerns about black players being sent to >>>>>> the jury, but like the whispering session at that one TC, the show >>>>>> chose not to include any of this in the final edit.-a I think there >>>>>> was a pretty strong backlash from all the racial talk in S41 and
    S42, and the show has learned from that and is making sure it
    doesn't dominate the "story" for this season.

    The show definitely remembers how turned off many people were by
    the racial talk in S41 and S42. Concerning S42, did MC and Jawan
    forget that a black person won that season?

    As for Kristina, I don't recall them showing or even hinting that
    she was part of the jury talk. Do she and Jawan talk at Ponderosa?
    Is she next to go? My read was that Jawan was not buying the black
    players are being targeted crap MC was selling. He was there to win >>>>> money for his family. MC would have fit in perfectly with the S42
    cast.


    My take is that Jawan and Kristina probably talked about it on the
    beach, but it was just never shown.-a As far as I can recall, there
    was never any racial talk in the edit, other than the whispering at
    TC where they did not reveal what was said.-a There is no reason to
    assume Jawan and Kristina discussed this at Ponderosa, which of
    course would imply that Kristina gets voted out at some point.

    It really sucks they stopped doing the classic Ponderosa videos. In
    the old days we would have had a much better idea of what was going on.


    Agreed. Only thing I can figure is that the videos weren't getting
    enough views to justify the costs of producing and editing the videos.
    They stopped doing these around the same time they reduced the length
    of the season and made several budget cuts.

    IIRC, we did have Ponderosa videos for S41 and S42. We still sometimes
    get mini Ponderosa videos posted to IG, but they're basically
    confessional type videos for the most part.

    BTW, I listened to Jawan's interviews with Rob and Mike today and he
    did say at one point that he and Christina had a "long talk in the
    woods" about the racial makeup of the jury, so that confirms they did
    talk about it.

    Interesting. That pretty well confirms the show tried to hide the racial talk. Do you think Dalton will have the balls to ask Jeff about the next time he interviews him?


    No. As much as I like Dalton and think he does a pretty good job, he's
    not going to broach this topic unless it is in the show's edit or he has cleared it with Jeff in advance. He knows which side his bread is
    buttered on.

    Let's see if it is mentioned at all in this week's episode. If it is mentioned at all, then maybe we will hear more about it in the future or
    in the finale post-show.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Tue Dec 2 16:59:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 12/2/2025 4:17 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 5:22 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 2:34 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 2:44 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 8:51 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 9:36 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 7:04 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 5:40 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Jawan talks about race conversations with MC and Kristina both >>>>>>>> on the island and off when it comes to putting Black players on >>>>>>>> the #Survivor jury.

    Full interview at the link: https://ew.com/survivor-49-jawan- >>>>>>>> pitts- reveals-smuggled-french-fries-in-sock-interview-11858868 >>>>>>>>
    https://x.com/DaltonRoss/status/1995533249607598455

    Did the comments about Kristina give something away?


    He is saying substantially the same thing in other interviews he >>>>>>> is doing today. What I find interesting is that he and MC clearly >>>>>>> discussed Season 42 and concerns about black players being sent >>>>>>> to the jury, but like the whispering session at that one TC, the >>>>>>> show chose not to include any of this in the final edit.-a I think >>>>>>> there was a pretty strong backlash from all the racial talk in
    S41 and S42, and the show has learned from that and is making
    sure it doesn't dominate the "story" for this season.

    The show definitely remembers how turned off many people were by
    the racial talk in S41 and S42. Concerning S42, did MC and Jawan
    forget that a black person won that season?

    As for Kristina, I don't recall them showing or even hinting that >>>>>> she was part of the jury talk. Do she and Jawan talk at Ponderosa? >>>>>> Is she next to go? My read was that Jawan was not buying the black >>>>>> players are being targeted crap MC was selling. He was there to
    win money for his family. MC would have fit in perfectly with the >>>>>> S42 cast.


    My take is that Jawan and Kristina probably talked about it on the
    beach, but it was just never shown.-a As far as I can recall, there >>>>> was never any racial talk in the edit, other than the whispering at >>>>> TC where they did not reveal what was said.-a There is no reason to >>>>> assume Jawan and Kristina discussed this at Ponderosa, which of
    course would imply that Kristina gets voted out at some point.

    It really sucks they stopped doing the classic Ponderosa videos. In
    the old days we would have had a much better idea of what was going on. >>>>

    Agreed. Only thing I can figure is that the videos weren't getting
    enough views to justify the costs of producing and editing the
    videos. They stopped doing these around the same time they reduced
    the length of the season and made several budget cuts.

    IIRC, we did have Ponderosa videos for S41 and S42. We still sometimes
    get mini Ponderosa videos posted to IG, but they're basically
    confessional type videos for the most part.

    BTW, I listened to Jawan's interviews with Rob and Mike today and he
    did say at one point that he and Christina had a "long talk in the
    woods" about the racial makeup of the jury, so that confirms they did
    talk about it.

    Interesting. That pretty well confirms the show tried to hide the
    racial talk. Do you think Dalton will have the balls to ask Jeff about
    the next time he interviews him?


    No.-a As much as I like Dalton and think he does a pretty good job, he's
    not going to broach this topic unless it is in the show's edit or he has cleared it with Jeff in advance. He knows which side his bread is
    buttered on.

    Let's see if it is mentioned at all in this week's episode.-a If it is mentioned at all, then maybe we will hear more about it in the future or
    in the finale post-show.

    If nothing was said in last week's episode I can't see that changing
    this week. When Sage was crying, Jawan said to her something like
    "things didn't work out for us," implying they made a mistake. It's
    clear there's two sides and race has nothing to do with the boots.
    People seem to be forgetting that Sage and Jawan were on Savannah's side
    and that she was more than willing to work with them. They turned on her
    and their sloppy game play was a huge factor in Sophie flipping over to Savannah.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Tue Dec 2 19:21:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 12/2/2025 6:59 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 4:17 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 5:22 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 2:34 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 2:44 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 8:51 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 9:36 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 7:04 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 5:40 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Jawan talks about race conversations with MC and Kristina both >>>>>>>>> on the island and off when it comes to putting Black players on >>>>>>>>> the #Survivor jury.

    Full interview at the link: https://ew.com/survivor-49-jawan- >>>>>>>>> pitts- reveals-smuggled-french-fries-in-sock-interview-11858868 >>>>>>>>>
    https://x.com/DaltonRoss/status/1995533249607598455

    Did the comments about Kristina give something away?


    He is saying substantially the same thing in other interviews he >>>>>>>> is doing today. What I find interesting is that he and MC
    clearly discussed Season 42 and concerns about black players
    being sent to the jury, but like the whispering session at that >>>>>>>> one TC, the show chose not to include any of this in the final >>>>>>>> edit.-a I think there was a pretty strong backlash from all the >>>>>>>> racial talk in S41 and S42, and the show has learned from that >>>>>>>> and is making sure it doesn't dominate the "story" for this season. >>>>>>>
    The show definitely remembers how turned off many people were by >>>>>>> the racial talk in S41 and S42. Concerning S42, did MC and Jawan >>>>>>> forget that a black person won that season?

    As for Kristina, I don't recall them showing or even hinting that >>>>>>> she was part of the jury talk. Do she and Jawan talk at
    Ponderosa? Is she next to go? My read was that Jawan was not
    buying the black players are being targeted crap MC was selling. >>>>>>> He was there to win money for his family. MC would have fit in
    perfectly with the S42 cast.


    My take is that Jawan and Kristina probably talked about it on the >>>>>> beach, but it was just never shown.-a As far as I can recall, there >>>>>> was never any racial talk in the edit, other than the whispering
    at TC where they did not reveal what was said.-a There is no reason >>>>>> to assume Jawan and Kristina discussed this at Ponderosa, which of >>>>>> course would imply that Kristina gets voted out at some point.

    It really sucks they stopped doing the classic Ponderosa videos. In >>>>> the old days we would have had a much better idea of what was going >>>>> on.


    Agreed. Only thing I can figure is that the videos weren't getting
    enough views to justify the costs of producing and editing the
    videos. They stopped doing these around the same time they reduced
    the length of the season and made several budget cuts.

    IIRC, we did have Ponderosa videos for S41 and S42. We still
    sometimes get mini Ponderosa videos posted to IG, but they're
    basically confessional type videos for the most part.

    BTW, I listened to Jawan's interviews with Rob and Mike today and he
    did say at one point that he and Christina had a "long talk in the
    woods" about the racial makeup of the jury, so that confirms they
    did talk about it.

    Interesting. That pretty well confirms the show tried to hide the
    racial talk. Do you think Dalton will have the balls to ask Jeff
    about the next time he interviews him?


    No.-a As much as I like Dalton and think he does a pretty good job,
    he's not going to broach this topic unless it is in the show's edit or
    he has cleared it with Jeff in advance. He knows which side his bread
    is buttered on.

    Let's see if it is mentioned at all in this week's episode.-a If it is
    mentioned at all, then maybe we will hear more about it in the future
    or in the finale post-show.

    If nothing was said in last week's episode I can't see that changing
    this week. When Sage was crying, Jawan said to her something like
    "things didn't work out for us," implying they made a mistake. It's
    clear there's two sides and race has nothing to do with the boots.
    People seem to be forgetting that Sage and Jawan were on Savannah's side
    and that she was more than willing to work with them. They turned on her
    and their sloppy game play was a huge factor in Sophie flipping over to Savannah.


    It's also worth noting that as far as we know, MC is the ONLY
    participant who felt this was a critically important issue that would influence strategy. Jawan went out of his way in both interviews to try
    to distance himself from the issue by saying that while he respected
    MC's views on this, his top priority was that he was playing for himself
    and for his family. In other words, his opinions/decisions on who to
    vote out were based strictly on strategy and on what made best sense for
    his own chances of winning.

    By the way, in that context, he also said in both interviews that he was essentially "broke" and that winning money for his family was all he was concerned about while playing.

    And while he acknowledged talking to Kristina about this, he never
    really said was her position was. It could just be that MC was the only player who really cared to make a point of this, and perhaps that's a
    part of why the show hasn't called attention to it.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Tue Dec 2 21:31:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 12/2/2025 5:21 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 6:59 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 4:17 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 5:22 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 2:34 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 2:44 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/2/2025 8:51 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 9:36 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 7:04 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 12/1/2025 5:40 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Jawan talks about race conversations with MC and Kristina both >>>>>>>>>> on the island and off when it comes to putting Black players >>>>>>>>>> on the #Survivor jury.

    Full interview at the link: https://ew.com/survivor-49-jawan- >>>>>>>>>> pitts- reveals-smuggled-french-fries-in-sock-interview-11858868 >>>>>>>>>>
    https://x.com/DaltonRoss/status/1995533249607598455

    Did the comments about Kristina give something away?


    He is saying substantially the same thing in other interviews >>>>>>>>> he is doing today. What I find interesting is that he and MC >>>>>>>>> clearly discussed Season 42 and concerns about black players >>>>>>>>> being sent to the jury, but like the whispering session at that >>>>>>>>> one TC, the show chose not to include any of this in the final >>>>>>>>> edit.-a I think there was a pretty strong backlash from all the >>>>>>>>> racial talk in S41 and S42, and the show has learned from that >>>>>>>>> and is making sure it doesn't dominate the "story" for this >>>>>>>>> season.

    The show definitely remembers how turned off many people were by >>>>>>>> the racial talk in S41 and S42. Concerning S42, did MC and Jawan >>>>>>>> forget that a black person won that season?

    As for Kristina, I don't recall them showing or even hinting
    that she was part of the jury talk. Do she and Jawan talk at
    Ponderosa? Is she next to go? My read was that Jawan was not
    buying the black players are being targeted crap MC was selling. >>>>>>>> He was there to win money for his family. MC would have fit in >>>>>>>> perfectly with the S42 cast.


    My take is that Jawan and Kristina probably talked about it on
    the beach, but it was just never shown.-a As far as I can recall, >>>>>>> there was never any racial talk in the edit, other than the
    whispering at TC where they did not reveal what was said.-a There >>>>>>> is no reason to assume Jawan and Kristina discussed this at
    Ponderosa, which of course would imply that Kristina gets voted >>>>>>> out at some point.

    It really sucks they stopped doing the classic Ponderosa videos.
    In the old days we would have had a much better idea of what was
    going on.


    Agreed. Only thing I can figure is that the videos weren't getting
    enough views to justify the costs of producing and editing the
    videos. They stopped doing these around the same time they reduced
    the length of the season and made several budget cuts.

    IIRC, we did have Ponderosa videos for S41 and S42. We still
    sometimes get mini Ponderosa videos posted to IG, but they're
    basically confessional type videos for the most part.

    BTW, I listened to Jawan's interviews with Rob and Mike today and
    he did say at one point that he and Christina had a "long talk in
    the woods" about the racial makeup of the jury, so that confirms
    they did talk about it.

    Interesting. That pretty well confirms the show tried to hide the
    racial talk. Do you think Dalton will have the balls to ask Jeff
    about the next time he interviews him?


    No.-a As much as I like Dalton and think he does a pretty good job,
    he's not going to broach this topic unless it is in the show's edit
    or he has cleared it with Jeff in advance. He knows which side his
    bread is buttered on.

    Let's see if it is mentioned at all in this week's episode.-a If it is
    mentioned at all, then maybe we will hear more about it in the future
    or in the finale post-show.

    If nothing was said in last week's episode I can't see that changing
    this week. When Sage was crying, Jawan said to her something like
    "things didn't work out for us," implying they made a mistake. It's
    clear there's two sides and race has nothing to do with the boots.
    People seem to be forgetting that Sage and Jawan were on Savannah's
    side and that she was more than willing to work with them. They turned
    on her and their sloppy game play was a huge factor in Sophie flipping
    over to Savannah.


    It's also worth noting that as far as we know, MC is the ONLY
    participant who felt this was a critically important issue that would influence strategy.-a Jawan went out of his way in both interviews to try
    to distance himself from the issue by saying that while he respected
    MC's views on this, his top priority was that he was playing for himself
    and for his family.-a In other words, his opinions/decisions on who to
    vote out were based strictly on strategy and on what made best sense for
    his own chances of winning.

    By the way, in that context, he also said in both interviews that he was essentially "broke" and that winning money for his family was all he was concerned about while playing.

    And while he acknowledged talking to Kristina about this, he never
    really said was her position was.-a It could just be that MC was the only player who really cared to make a point of this, and perhaps that's a
    part of why the show hasn't called attention to it.

    It sure looks like this was a MC-only thing. Lame attempt to save
    herself from being booted. She should have kept quiet and focused on
    winning the game like Jawan tried to do. I wonder if she screwed herself
    when it comes to The Challenge? She's perfect for that show and could
    have possibly made a career out of it if she could deliver what they want.
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    Brian
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