• Jeff Probst Interview in the NYT

    From Zeppo@reg@telus.invalid to alt.tv.survivor on Sun Sep 27 14:37:24 2026
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/24/arts/television/jeff-probst-survivor- popcast-interview.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EVE.PrEP.iXhyaVGu_ke-&smid=url- share

    rCLProbst, now 64, (has) made it his mission to pull Survivor to more family-friendly territory,
    reframing it as a collection of inspiring, interwoven character studies in
    the guise of a game....rCY

    Exactly right IMO! For too many seasons to count, the game has been far less important
    than the characterrCOs stories.
    In this interview, Probst responds to questions about a lot of things surrounding Survivor
    eg. CBS, the betting markets, previous Survivor players appearing on other shows, and Mr.Beast,
    topics that I generally have little interest in. However, he does address the speculation that he is
    going to be leaving Survivor soon, and defends the rCLairing of his grievancesrCY in S51E01. The
    accompanying photos of him posing as rough trade on the streets of New York are an odd choice
    IMO.


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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Mon Sep 28 14:30:45 2026
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    On 9/27/2026 5:37 PM, Zeppo wrote:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/24/arts/television/jeff-probst-survivor- popcast-interview.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EVE.PrEP.iXhyaVGu_ke-&smid=url-
    share

    rCLProbst, now 64, (has) made it his mission to pull Survivor to more family-friendly territory,
    reframing it as a collection of inspiring, interwoven character studies in the guise of a game....rCY

    Exactly right IMO! For too many seasons to count, the game has been far less important
    than the characterrCOs stories.
    In this interview, Probst responds to questions about a lot of things surrounding Survivor
    eg. CBS, the betting markets, previous Survivor players appearing on other shows, and Mr.Beast,
    topics that I generally have little interest in. However, he does address the speculation that he is
    going to be leaving Survivor soon, and defends the rCLairing of his grievancesrCY in S51E01. The
    accompanying photos of him posing as rough trade on the streets of New York are an odd choice
    IMO.



    I'd go further and say the scenes of Jeff walking around the streets of
    New York (if that's where they filmed them) are outright dumb. Jeff is
    from the midwest (Kansas) but acts more like he's from Hollywood.
    There's nothing even remotely New York about him

    I only read the written summary and didn't listen to the audio. I was
    really struck by this comment. Jeff said:

    "IrCOm not always proud of the decisions IrCOve made, not always proud of
    the things IrCOve said on the shows. There were things I said 20 years ago
    I would never say today. So IrCOve had to find grace for myself, because
    the good and the bad of being on camera on a show like rCLSurvivorrCY for 25 years is you see a lot of yourself."

    I really wish the questioner had followed up on this and asked what
    things Jeff said 20 years ago he wouldn't say today. Maybe it's in the
    audio.

    And I guess I missed the memo on the Survivor animated film being
    planned for 2030. Apparently is a comedy cartoon about animals going on Survivor. Yup, funny animals on Survivor. Doesn't get much better than
    that.


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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Mon Sep 28 15:55:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/28/2026 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 9/27/2026 5:37 PM, Zeppo wrote:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/24/arts/television/jeff-probst-survivor-
    popcast-interview.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EVE.PrEP.iXhyaVGu_ke-
    &smid=url-
    share

    rCLProbst, now 64, (has) made it his mission to pull Survivor to more
    family-friendly territory,
    reframing it as a collection of inspiring, interwoven character
    studies in
    the guise of a game....rCY

    Exactly right IMO! For too many seasons to count, the game has been
    far less
    important
    than the characterrCOs stories.
    In this interview, Probst responds to questions about a lot of things
    surrounding Survivor
    eg. CBS, the betting markets, previous Survivor players appearing on
    other
    shows, and Mr.Beast,
    topics that I generally have little interest in. However, he does
    address the
    speculation that he is
    going to be leaving Survivor soon, and defends the rCLairing of his
    grievancesrCY in S51E01. The
    accompanying photos of him posing as rough trade on the streets of New
    York
    are an odd choice
    IMO.



    I'd go further and say the scenes of Jeff walking around the streets of
    New York (if that's where they filmed them) are outright dumb.-a Jeff is from the midwest (Kansas) but acts more like he's from Hollywood.
    There's nothing even remotely New York about him

    I only read the written summary and didn't listen to the audio.-a I was really struck by this comment.-a Jeff said:

    "IrCOm not always proud of the decisions IrCOve made, not always proud of the things IrCOve said on the shows. There were things I said 20 years ago
    I would never say today. So IrCOve had to find grace for myself, because
    the good and the bad of being on camera on a show like rCLSurvivorrCY for 25 years is you see a lot of yourself."

    I really wish the questioner had followed up on this and asked what
    things Jeff said 20 years ago he wouldn't say today.-a Maybe it's in the audio.

    And I guess I missed the memo on the Survivor animated film being
    planned for 2030.-a Apparently is a comedy cartoon about animals going on Survivor.-a Yup, funny animals on Survivor.-a Doesn't get much better than that.

    I posted about the movie on June 17. I'd post a link to my post but POS Thunderbird doesn't appear to have that basic functionality.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Mon Sep 28 18:31:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/28/2026 5:55 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 9/28/2026 12:30 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 9/27/2026 5:37 PM, Zeppo wrote:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/24/arts/television/jeff-probst-survivor- >>> popcast-interview.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EVE.PrEP.iXhyaVGu_ke-
    &smid=url-
    share

    rCLProbst, now 64, (has) made it his mission to pull Survivor to more
    family-friendly territory,
    reframing it as a collection of inspiring, interwoven character
    studies in
    the guise of a game....rCY

    Exactly right IMO! For too many seasons to count, the game has been
    far less
    important
    than the characterrCOs stories.
    In this interview, Probst responds to questions about a lot of things
    surrounding Survivor
    eg. CBS, the betting markets, previous Survivor players appearing on
    other
    shows, and Mr.Beast,
    topics that I generally have little interest in. However, he does
    address the
    speculation that he is
    going to be leaving Survivor soon, and defends the rCLairing of his
    grievancesrCY in S51E01. The
    accompanying photos of him posing as rough trade on the streets of
    New York
    are an odd choice
    IMO.



    I'd go further and say the scenes of Jeff walking around the streets
    of New York (if that's where they filmed them) are outright dumb.
    Jeff is from the midwest (Kansas) but acts more like he's from
    Hollywood. There's nothing even remotely New York about him

    I only read the written summary and didn't listen to the audio.-a I was
    really struck by this comment.-a Jeff said:

    "IrCOm not always proud of the decisions IrCOve made, not always proud of >> the things IrCOve said on the shows. There were things I said 20 years
    ago I would never say today. So IrCOve had to find grace for myself,
    because the good and the bad of being on camera on a show like
    rCLSurvivorrCY for 25 years is you see a lot of yourself."

    I really wish the questioner had followed up on this and asked what
    things Jeff said 20 years ago he wouldn't say today.-a Maybe it's in
    the audio.

    And I guess I missed the memo on the Survivor animated film being
    planned for 2030.-a Apparently is a comedy cartoon about animals going
    on Survivor.-a Yup, funny animals on Survivor.-a Doesn't get much better
    than that.

    I posted about the movie on June 17. I'd post a link to my post but POS Thunderbird doesn't appear to have that basic functionality.



    Found your post. Here it is. I must have initially blocked it from my
    mind.


    On 6/18/2026 12:43 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    IG post from Jeff and the show. I wonder if Billie Eilish and her
    brother will be asked to write the music for the movie? ____________________________________________________________________

    IrCOm so excited to be teaming up with Paramount Animation to bring you Survivor like yourCOve never seen it beforerCain the animal kingdom!

    This will be an all-out comedy with animals competing for the chance to
    be crowned the sole Survivor. LetrCOs go!!!! EfoN


    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZtXffoOCbF/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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  • From Zeppo@reg@telus.invalid to alt.tv.survivor on Mon Sep 28 15:46:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On Sep 28, 2026, Rick wrote
    (in article <119ebom$2bg7o$1@dont-email.me>):


    I really wish the questioner had followed up on this and asked what
    things Jeff said 20 years ago he wouldn't say today. Maybe it's in the
    audio.

    The interviewers did attempt to probe a little deeper, but Probst
    didnrCOt provide any examples that we didnrCOt already know about.
    For example:
    -He mentioned the rCLCome on in guysrCY change in S41.
    -He told a story about Sarah Lacina challenging him on his tendency
    to address certain male players by their last names.
    -He expressed regret about his on-screen handling of the Hawk/Hatch
    incident in S08. He admitted that his primary motivation was to find a
    way to prevent Sue from quitting. And, in a somewhat opaque way, he
    admitted that Rich shouldnrCOt have been allowed to participate in the challenge while naked.


    And I guess I missed the memo on the Survivor animated film being
    planned for 2030. Apparently is a comedy cartoon about animals going on Survivor. Yup, funny animals on Survivor. Doesn't get much better than
    that.

    Before reading this interview, I knew nothing about the planned animated Survivor movie, and assumed that it would feature caricatures of famous players. However, using animals makes more sense given the demographic
    that Probst is going for with this movie.

    BTW, in the taped version of the interview, Jeff talks a little about S51 and how
    difficult it was to cast. After all the hoopla of S50, Production realized
    how
    important it would be for 51 to be a good season, so they really worked hard
    to reach an agreement on the 21 best contestants from the interview pool.


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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Tue Sep 29 00:52:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/28/2026 6:46 PM, Zeppo wrote:
    On Sep 28, 2026, Rick wrote
    (in article <119ebom$2bg7o$1@dont-email.me>):


    I really wish the questioner had followed up on this and asked what
    things Jeff said 20 years ago he wouldn't say today. Maybe it's in the
    audio.

    The interviewers did attempt to probe a little deeper, but Probst
    didnrCOt provide any examples that we didnrCOt already know about.
    For example:
    -He mentioned the rCLCome on in guysrCY change in S41.
    -He told a story about Sarah Lacina challenging him on his tendency
    to address certain male players by their last names.
    -He expressed regret about his on-screen handling of the Hawk/Hatch
    incident in S08. He admitted that his primary motivation was to find a
    way to prevent Sue from quitting. And, in a somewhat opaque way, he
    admitted that Rich shouldnrCOt have been allowed to participate in the challenge while naked.


    You're right - none of that is particularly new other than perhaps the comments about Rich and Sue. I still think Sue exaggerated the effect
    the inadvertent contact by Rich had on her in the hopes of getting a big settlement from CBS, which I'm pretty sure she got.




    And I guess I missed the memo on the Survivor animated film being
    planned for 2030. Apparently is a comedy cartoon about animals going on
    Survivor. Yup, funny animals on Survivor. Doesn't get much better than
    that.

    Before reading this interview, I knew nothing about the planned animated Survivor movie, and assumed that it would feature caricatures of famous players. However, using animals makes more sense given the demographic
    that Probst is going for with this movie.

    BTW, in the taped version of the interview, Jeff talks a little about S51 and how
    difficult it was to cast. After all the hoopla of S50, Production realized how
    important it would be for 51 to be a good season, so they really worked hard to reach an agreement on the 21 best contestants from the interview pool.



    Did he say anything about why they cast an odd number of contestants?
    The last, and I think only time that happened previously was when
    someone either dropped out or was dropped at the last moment.

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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Tue Sep 29 13:50:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/28/2026 10:52 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 9/28/2026 6:46 PM, Zeppo wrote:
    On Sep 28, 2026, Rick wrote
    (in article <119ebom$2bg7o$1@dont-email.me>):


    I really wish the questioner had followed up on this and asked what
    things Jeff said 20 years ago he wouldn't say today. Maybe it's in the
    audio.

    The interviewers did attempt to probe a little deeper, but Probst
    didnrCOt provide any examples that we didnrCOt already know about.
    For example:
    -He mentioned the rCLCome on in guysrCY change in S41.
    -He told a story about Sarah Lacina challenging him on his tendency
    to address certain male players by their last names.
    -He expressed regret about his on-screen handling of the Hawk/Hatch
    incident in S08. He admitted that his primary motivation was to find a
    way to prevent Sue from quitting. And, in a somewhat opaque way, he
    admitted that Rich shouldnrCOt have been allowed to participate in the
    challenge while naked.


    You're right - none of that is particularly new other than perhaps the comments about Rich and Sue. I still think Sue exaggerated the effect
    the inadvertent contact by Rich had on her in the hopes of getting a big settlement from CBS, which I'm pretty sure she got.




    And I guess I missed the memo on the Survivor animated film being
    planned for 2030. Apparently is a comedy cartoon about animals going on
    Survivor. Yup, funny animals on Survivor. Doesn't get much better than
    that.

    Before reading this interview, I knew nothing about the planned animated
    Survivor movie, and assumed that it would feature caricatures of famous
    players. However, using animals makes more sense given the demographic
    that Probst is going for with this movie.

    BTW, in the taped version of the interview, Jeff talks a little about
    S51 and
    how
    difficult it was to cast. After all the hoopla of S50, Production
    realized
    how
    important it would be for 51 to be a good season, so they really
    worked hard
    to reach an agreement on the 21 best contestants from the interview pool.



    Did he say anything about why they cast an odd number of contestants?
    The last, and I think only time that happened previously was when
    someone either dropped out or was dropped at the last moment.

    I haven't listened to the NY Times interview but he was asked about this
    by Rob at the live NJ event the other weekend. Jeff basically said it
    was to screw with the players going into the game. Stuff like "would it
    be three tribes of seven, unbalanced tribes, etc." He also said that
    from S50 they now know that 24 players is the absolute max they can do
    given the schedule they have. I guess they could go Beast Games mode and
    do mass boots/TC, but that would really change the game.
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    Brian
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  • From Zeppo@reg@telus.invalid to alt.tv.survivor on Tue Sep 29 19:56:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On Sep 28, 2026, Rick wrote
    (in article <119fg6h$2bg7o$3@dont-email.me>):


    I still think Sue exaggerated the effect
    the inadvertent contact by Rich had on her in the hopes of getting a big settlement from CBS, which I'm pretty sure she got.

    Yes. At the time, I felt that her delayed emotional reaction to something
    that had happened three days earlier to be suspect.

    On a related note, the NYT interviewers asked if the Hatch/Hawk
    incident was the reason why Rich has been treated as a rCLpersona
    non gratarCY during ProbstrCOs time as Survivor showrunner. Jeff didnrCOt answer the question directly but, when pressed, stated that Rich is
    one of a number of former players who are no longer considered to
    be members of the Survivor rCLfamily". Unfortunately, he was not
    asked to identify some of the other people who fall into this category.:-)
    He also stated that a player would not be allowed to parade about
    in the nude nowadays.


    Did he say anything about why they cast an odd number of contestants?
    The last, and I think only time that happened previously was when
    someone either dropped out or was dropped at the last moment.

    No. The only thing that he said about S51 was that it was difficult to
    cast.


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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Wed Sep 30 00:34:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/29/2026 10:56 PM, Zeppo wrote:
    On Sep 28, 2026, Rick wrote
    (in article <119fg6h$2bg7o$3@dont-email.me>):


    I still think Sue exaggerated the effect
    the inadvertent contact by Rich had on her in the hopes of getting a big
    settlement from CBS, which I'm pretty sure she got.

    Yes. At the time, I felt that her delayed emotional reaction to something that had happened three days earlier to be suspect.

    On a related note, the NYT interviewers asked if the Hatch/Hawk
    incident was the reason why Rich has been treated as a rCLpersona
    non gratarCY during ProbstrCOs time as Survivor showrunner. Jeff didnrCOt answer the question directly but, when pressed, stated that Rich is
    one of a number of former players who are no longer considered to
    be members of the Survivor rCLfamily". Unfortunately, he was not
    asked to identify some of the other people who fall into this category.:-)
    He also stated that a player would not be allowed to parade about
    in the nude nowadays.


    As far as the Survivor blacklist is concerned, you have to assume it
    includes Rich, Russell Hantz, probably anyone else with surname Hantz,
    Brian Heidik, Mike Skupin, Stacey Stillman, maybe Chris Daugherty and
    perhaps even Sue Hawk herself.





    Did he say anything about why they cast an odd number of contestants?
    The last, and I think only time that happened previously was when
    someone either dropped out or was dropped at the last moment.

    No. The only thing that he said about S51 was that it was difficult to
    cast.



    That confuses me a bit since there must have been several players who
    didn't quite make the final cuts for the seasons immediately preceding
    S50 that would still want to play.

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  • From Zeppo@reg@telus.invalid to alt.tv.survivor on Wed Sep 30 13:05:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On Sep 29, 2026, Rick wrote
    (in article <119i3gg$3tcr1$1@dont-email.me>):


    As far as the Survivor blacklist is concerned, you have to assume it
    includes Rich, Russell Hantz, probably anyone else with surname Hantz,
    Brian Heidik, Mike Skupin, Stacey Stillman, maybe Chris Daugherty and
    perhaps even Sue Hawk herself.

    Yes, IrCOm with you on each of the people you named, and I would add
    Dan Spilo, Colton Cumbie, Jon Dalton, Silas Gaither, Alec Merlino,
    Vytas Baskauskas, and most of the quitters to the list of past
    players who have been relegated to the Survivor penalty box forever.

    ItrCOs also worth mentioning that Julie Berry (who was a good player)
    was never asked to return after S09 due to her long romantic
    relationship with Jeff Probst. However, she is not blacklisted per se,
    and has attended some official Survivor events. FWIW, it has been
    speculated that Probst has held a long standing grudge against
    Chris Daugherty due to the way Julie left the S09 game at F5.


    That confuses me a bit since there must have been several players who
    didn't quite make the final cuts for the seasons immediately preceding
    S50 that would still want to play.

    When Probst talked about S51 casting during the NYT interview, he
    stated that he, Matt Van Wagenen, and Jesse Tannenbaum were
    cognizant of the possibility that, after S50, casual fans might stop
    watching if 51 was perceived to be a weak season. Therefore,
    they spent more time than usual searching for people who they
    felt the editors could turn into compelling characters. One of the
    ways they did this was to broaden the pool of potential contestants
    by reconsidering applicants who had sent in audition videos, or had
    been interviewed, but not selected for previous seasons.


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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Oct 1 16:49:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/30/2026 4:05 PM, Zeppo wrote:
    On Sep 29, 2026, Rick wrote
    (in article <119i3gg$3tcr1$1@dont-email.me>):


    As far as the Survivor blacklist is concerned, you have to assume it
    includes Rich, Russell Hantz, probably anyone else with surname Hantz,
    Brian Heidik, Mike Skupin, Stacey Stillman, maybe Chris Daugherty and
    perhaps even Sue Hawk herself.

    Yes, IrCOm with you on each of the people you named, and I would add
    Dan Spilo, Colton Cumbie, Jon Dalton, Silas Gaither, Alec Merlino,
    Vytas Baskauskas, and most of the quitters to the list of past
    players who have been relegated to the Survivor penalty box forever.


    Those are great adds to the list, and I can't believe I forgot about Dan
    Spilo who probably belongs at the top of the list. I think I've
    mentally blocked out that season. The other obvious name I missed was
    Osten, the first player to overtly quit for no reason except he couldn't handle the game, and Jeff reacted by angrily throwing down his torch
    rather than snuff it.


    ItrCOs also worth mentioning that Julie Berry (who was a good player)
    was never asked to return after S09 due to her long romantic
    relationship with Jeff Probst. However, she is not blacklisted per se,
    and has attended some official Survivor events. FWIW, it has been
    speculated that Probst has held a long standing grudge against
    Chris Daugherty due to the way Julie left the S09 game at F5.


    That confuses me a bit since there must have been several players who
    didn't quite make the final cuts for the seasons immediately preceding
    S50 that would still want to play.

    When Probst talked about S51 casting during the NYT interview, he
    stated that he, Matt Van Wagenen, and Jesse Tannenbaum were
    cognizant of the possibility that, after S50, casual fans might stop
    watching if 51 was perceived to be a weak season. Therefore,
    they spent more time than usual searching for people who they
    felt the editors could turn into compelling characters. One of the
    ways they did this was to broaden the pool of potential contestants
    by reconsidering applicants who had sent in audition videos, or had
    been interviewed, but not selected for previous seasons.



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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Oct 1 19:51:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 10/1/2026 5:40 PM, Zeppo wrote:
    On Oct 1, 2026, Rick wrote
    (in article <119mh0t$1bh2l$2@dont-email.me>):


    Those are great adds to the list, and I can't believe I forgot about Dan
    Spilo who probably belongs at the top of the list. I think I've
    mentally blocked out that season. The other obvious name I missed was
    Osten, the first player to overtly quit for no reason except he couldn't
    handle the game, and Jeff reacted by angrily throwing down his torch
    rather than snuff it.

    Ha! IIRC, Osten claimed that his lungs were filling up with fluid which necessitated him leaving the game.
    I may be missing somebody, but there are a number of quitters who may
    not have been blacklisted due to the circumstances which lead to their requests to leave their games:
    -Jenna Morasca (S08)
    -Gary Stritesky (S14)
    -Kathy Sleckman (S16)
    -Dana Lambert (S25)
    -Terry Deitz (S31)
    -Bi Nguyb+an (S37)

    There has also been some speculation that Janu Tornell from S10 (the
    first player to spend a night alone on Exile Island) was invited to participate
    in, at least, one official Survivor event despite her sketchy reason for quitting.



    One other obvious example I forgot of a blacklisted player is Jeff
    Varner. After what happened with Zeke, I can't see him ever being
    invited back.

    Given that both Jenna and Terry left due to legitimate family illness/emergency, it's hard to believe they'd be blacklisted for that.
    I think both were considered for subsequent returning player seasons,
    but not S50.

    Some would argue that Ian effectively quit Survivor 10 (Palau) when he
    stepped down from the final challenge in exchange for Tom agreeing to
    take Katie over him to F2. Although he never appeared on the show
    again, he was supposedly considered for return multiple times, including
    for S50.

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