• S51 Ep 01 Spoilers and Comments (9/23/2026)

    From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Wed Sep 23 17:36:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    Tonight's episode is titled "Permanent Uncertainty" and it's two hours.

    More later ...
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Sep 24 14:35:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/23/2026 7:36 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Permanent Uncertainty" and it's two hours.

    More later ...


    I thought it was one of the worst opening episodes in recent memory, and
    it really reminded me of those terrible seasons in the early 40s. None
    of the players was interesting, none really stand out to me. There was
    really no one to root for and more than one to root against. I guess we
    can start to see why they didn't allow preseason interviews. These
    people are really self-entitled and boring!

    There was way too much Jeff talking about his stupid buzz phrase - what
    was it, planned uncertainty, permanent uncertainty? I couldn't keep it straight in my mind, and I thought it was hilarious how even one or two players had trouble remembering it. If they had to have a two-word
    phrase as the motto for the season, I think "Anything goes" would have
    been better.

    It was also really cringe when Jeff is hammering them about whether
    anyone would want to get rid of idols or advantages, etc., or change the
    final four fire-making. Everyone knows how in love Jeff is with all
    these gimmicks, so it wasn't likely he'd get a lot of push back after
    putting everyone on the spot. Aaliyah actually admitted in a post-game interview that they didn't show it but Jeff called her out for not
    getting excited when he revealed the coin-toss gimmick.

    This is probably the first opening episode for me since the early 40s
    where after watching it, I probably can't remember a single name of any
    player other than maybe Jenna.
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  • From Zeppo@reg@telus.invalid to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Sep 24 11:55:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On Sep 23, 2026, Brian Smith wrote
    (in article <1191nqh$27qr0$1@dont-email.me>):

    Tonight's episode is titled "Permanent Uncertainty" and it's two hours.

    More later ...

    A few observations and impressions:
    -Prior to the IC, it sounded like Probst was trying to settle some scores
    with the fans who have been vocal about preferring a simpler game
    with fewer advantages and twists. Not a great moment for him IMO.

    -What was up with all the histrionics from the players during the journey
    to the beach? The boat was only about fifty metres off shore FFS!

    -It was a shame that Patt found her pants :-). She bears an uncanny
    resemblance to a young Naomi Watts.

    -DevinrCOs obsession with wanting to vote for Jenna because he didnrCOt
    believe that she was actually a wedding photographer was lame.
    Fortunately, the rest of the tribe (with the exception of rCLlasagna girlrCY) made a better choice. The first TC is often a tough vote unless somebody
    really stands out as being an outsider. In this case, screwing up at the
    IC is a valid reason to be booted.

    -The lesbian took no prisoners in the thumb war. Poor Danny didnrCOt
    stand a chance. :-)

    -Best Suspension of Disbelief Moment: the kid who allegedly is a farmer
    in Puerto Rico telling the cameraman, rCLLook around, thererCOs no one hererCY.

    -Linnea the rCLentrepreneurrCY gets full marks for describing her business
    in such a way that the uninformed viewer would have no idea as to
    what she sells. :-)

    -Oh good, another coin flip! Maybe Probst will bring back Mr. Beast
    to help out. :-)


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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Sep 24 13:11:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/24/2026 12:35 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 9/23/2026 7:36 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Permanent Uncertainty" and it's two hours.

    More later ...


    I thought it was one of the worst opening episodes in recent memory, and
    it really reminded me of those terrible seasons in the early 40s.-a None
    of the players was interesting, none really stand out to me.-a There was really no one to root for and more than one to root against.-a I guess we can start to see why they didn't allow preseason interviews.-a These
    people are really self-entitled and boring!

    There was way too much Jeff talking about his stupid buzz phrase - what
    was it, planned uncertainty, permanent uncertainty?-a I couldn't keep it straight in my mind, and I thought it was hilarious how even one or two players had trouble remembering it.-a If they had to have a two-word
    phrase as the motto for the season, I think "Anything goes" would have
    been better.

    It was also really cringe when Jeff is hammering them about whether
    anyone would want to get rid of idols or advantages, etc., or change the final four fire-making.-a Everyone knows how in love Jeff is with all
    these gimmicks, so it wasn't likely he'd get a lot of push back after putting everyone on the spot.-a Aaliyah actually admitted in a post-game interview that they didn't show it but Jeff called her out for not
    getting excited when he revealed the coin-toss gimmick.

    This is probably the first opening episode for me since the early 40s
    where after watching it, I probably can't remember a single name of any player other than maybe Jenna.

    I still haven't watched and probably won't until tomorrow as BB28 is
    nearing it's end and has been very good.

    I'm not surprised that the first episode sucked. The near absence of any
    press availability was a dead giveaway that something was wrong. I'm
    also not surprised that the cast sucked. I do wonder if the new people
    running Paramount asked for a different type of cast than we got for S45
    to S49? If this cast is like the casts for S41 to S43 that's not good.

    Jeff ODing on his own Kool-Aid doesn't surprise me. Did you see the last minute session Rob Cesternino got to do with Jeff at the live Survivor
    event in NJ on Saturday? Rob asked a lot of good questions and Jeff gave
    a lot of word salad answers. Does Jeff really believe the shit he says?
    At the end they took some audience questions. The last one was from a
    couple of young kids who wanted to know if Jeff thought Devens or Dee
    could win BB28. After Rob filled Jeff in on what was happening, Jeff
    goes off on how great Survivor casting is and how they test people for critical thinking skills. I don't recall ever hearing any past player
    saying they were tested for critical thinking skills. Anyway, Jeff needs someone to check him occasionally to keep him in touch with reality.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Sep 24 13:22:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/24/2026 12:55 PM, Zeppo wrote:
    On Sep 23, 2026, Brian Smith wrote
    (in article <1191nqh$27qr0$1@dont-email.me>):

    Tonight's episode is titled "Permanent Uncertainty" and it's two hours.

    More later ...

    A few observations and impressions:
    -Prior to the IC, it sounded like Probst was trying to settle some scores with the fans who have been vocal about preferring a simpler game
    with fewer advantages and twists. Not a great moment for him IMO.

    -What was up with all the histrionics from the players during the journey
    to the beach? The boat was only about fifty metres off shore FFS!

    -It was a shame that Patt found her pants :-). She bears an uncanny resemblance to a young Naomi Watts.

    -DevinrCOs obsession with wanting to vote for Jenna because he didnrCOt believe that she was actually a wedding photographer was lame.
    Fortunately, the rest of the tribe (with the exception of rCLlasagna girlrCY) made a better choice. The first TC is often a tough vote unless somebody really stands out as being an outsider. In this case, screwing up at the
    IC is a valid reason to be booted.

    -The lesbian took no prisoners in the thumb war. Poor Danny didnrCOt
    stand a chance. :-)

    -Best Suspension of Disbelief Moment: the kid who allegedly is a farmer
    in Puerto Rico telling the cameraman, rCLLook around, thererCOs no one hererCY.

    -Linnea the rCLentrepreneurrCY gets full marks for describing her business
    in such a way that the uninformed viewer would have no idea as to
    what she sells. :-)

    -Oh good, another coin flip! Maybe Probst will bring back Mr. Beast
    to help out. :-)

    Did Jeff give any hints as to what powers the coin will have?
    --
    Brian
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  • From Zeppo@reg@telus.invalid to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Sep 24 13:15:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On Sep 24, 2026, Brian Smith wrote
    (in article <1193ta2$2vn6e$1@dont-email.me>):

    Did Jeff give any hints as to what powers the coin will have?

    Yes, he went on and on and on about it.
    The succinct version is:
    -one coin toss each season
    -a winning toss adds a million dollars to the prize pot
    -a winning flipper gets an immunity idol.
    -a losing flipper is out of the game
    -after losing tosses, prize money, in million dollar increments,
    will be carried forward to future seasons


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  • From Zeppo@reg@telus.invalid to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Sep 24 13:48:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On Sep 24, 2026, Rick wrote
    (in article <1193qi8$24ick$1@dont-email.me>):


    None
    of the players was interesting, none really stand out to me.

    Not even rCLwrestling guyrCY, or the kid who hired somebody from Reddit to teach him out to swim, or pantless Patt? It will take me weeks to learn
    their names, but there were a fair number of characters who stood out
    IMO. Except for the excessive rCLProbstspeakrCY and the excitable mental
    health counsellor, I enjoyed the episode.



    There was way too much Jeff talking about his stupid buzz phrase - what
    was it, planned uncertainty, permanent uncertainty?

    I agree. I have adopted the habit of fast forwarding whenever I sense
    a Probst rant beginning.


    It was also really cringe when Jeff is hammering them about whether
    anyone would want to get rid of idols or advantages, etc., or change the final four fire-making. Everyone knows how in love Jeff is with all
    these gimmicks, so it wasn't likely he'd get a lot of push back after
    putting everyone on the spot.

    Yes, that was a really weird moment, with Probst putting the cast on
    the spot in an attempt to settle some scores with the on-line Survivor community.
    Aaliyah actually admitted in a post-game
    interview that they didn't show it but Jeff called her out for not
    getting excited when he revealed the coin-toss gimmick.

    Probst was likely pleased with rCLmental health counsellorrCOsrCY
    response to the announcement regarding the coin flip. The
    guy went over-the-top apeshit.


    This is probably the first opening episode for me since the early 40s
    where after watching it, I probably can't remember a single name of any player other than maybe Jenna.

    At this point in the game, names are not important to me. Off the top
    of my head, I've got Danny, Patt, and Jenna. But, going into E02, IrCOll
    be able to recognize most of the faces.


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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Sep 24 17:54:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/24/2026 3:11 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 12:35 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 9/23/2026 7:36 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Permanent Uncertainty" and it's two hours.

    More later ...


    I thought it was one of the worst opening episodes in recent memory,
    and it really reminded me of those terrible seasons in the early 40s.
    None of the players was interesting, none really stand out to me.
    There was really no one to root for and more than one to root
    against.-a I guess we can start to see why they didn't allow preseason
    interviews.-a These people are really self-entitled and boring!

    There was way too much Jeff talking about his stupid buzz phrase -
    what was it, planned uncertainty, permanent uncertainty?-a I couldn't
    keep it straight in my mind, and I thought it was hilarious how even
    one or two players had trouble remembering it.-a If they had to have a
    two-word phrase as the motto for the season, I think "Anything goes"
    would have been better.

    It was also really cringe when Jeff is hammering them about whether
    anyone would want to get rid of idols or advantages, etc., or change
    the final four fire-making.-a Everyone knows how in love Jeff is with
    all these gimmicks, so it wasn't likely he'd get a lot of push back
    after putting everyone on the spot.-a Aaliyah actually admitted in a
    post-game interview that they didn't show it but Jeff called her out
    for not getting excited when he revealed the coin-toss gimmick.

    This is probably the first opening episode for me since the early 40s
    where after watching it, I probably can't remember a single name of
    any player other than maybe Jenna.

    I still haven't watched and probably won't until tomorrow as BB28 is
    nearing it's end and has been very good.

    I'm not surprised that the first episode sucked. The near absence of any press availability was a dead giveaway that something was wrong. I'm
    also not surprised that the cast sucked. I do wonder if the new people running Paramount asked for a different type of cast than we got for S45
    to S49? If this cast is like the casts for S41 to S43 that's not good.

    Jeff ODing on his own Kool-Aid doesn't surprise me. Did you see the last minute session Rob Cesternino got to do with Jeff at the live Survivor
    event in NJ on Saturday? Rob asked a lot of good questions and Jeff gave
    a lot of word salad answers. Does Jeff really believe the shit he says?
    At the end they took some audience questions. The last one was from a
    couple of young kids who wanted to know if Jeff thought Devens or Dee
    could win BB28. After Rob filled Jeff in on what was happening, Jeff
    goes off on how great Survivor casting is and how they test people for critical thinking skills. I don't recall ever hearing any past player
    saying they were tested for critical thinking skills. Anyway, Jeff needs someone to check him occasionally to keep him in touch with reality.


    I don't really follow BB, but I'm intrigued that Rick and Dee are still around, so I'll be skimming the last few episodes. So far, no one has
    ever won both Survivor and BB, so if Dee can somehow go all the way,
    that will be a big deal.

    As far as I know, of the three big CBS reality shows, the only person
    who has won two of the three is Jag, and he of course benefited from the
    fact that most of the teams on that season of TAR were previous BB winners.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Sep 24 15:57:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/24/2026 2:15 PM, Zeppo wrote:
    On Sep 24, 2026, Brian Smith wrote
    (in article <1193ta2$2vn6e$1@dont-email.me>):

    Did Jeff give any hints as to what powers the coin will have?

    Yes, he went on and on and on about it.
    The succinct version is:
    -one coin toss each season
    -a winning toss adds a million dollars to the prize pot
    -a winning flipper gets an immunity idol.
    -a losing flipper is out of the game
    -after losing tosses, prize money, in million dollar increments,
    will be carried forward to future seasons

    Wow! Watch there be a string of losing tosses until a Jeff fave returns
    to make a $5 million winning toss.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Zeppo@reg@telus.invalid to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Sep 24 15:22:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On Sep 24, 2026, Brian Smith wrote
    (in article <11946cj$32uiu$1@dont-email.me>):


    Wow! Watch there be a string of losing tosses until a Jeff fave returns
    to make a $5 million winning toss.

    Heh! No doubt!


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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Sep 24 16:28:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/24/2026 3:54 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 3:11 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 12:35 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 9/23/2026 7:36 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Permanent Uncertainty" and it's two hours. >>>>
    More later ...


    I thought it was one of the worst opening episodes in recent memory,
    and it really reminded me of those terrible seasons in the early 40s.
    None of the players was interesting, none really stand out to me.
    There was really no one to root for and more than one to root
    against.-a I guess we can start to see why they didn't allow preseason
    interviews.-a These people are really self-entitled and boring!

    There was way too much Jeff talking about his stupid buzz phrase -
    what was it, planned uncertainty, permanent uncertainty?-a I couldn't
    keep it straight in my mind, and I thought it was hilarious how even
    one or two players had trouble remembering it.-a If they had to have a
    two-word phrase as the motto for the season, I think "Anything goes"
    would have been better.

    It was also really cringe when Jeff is hammering them about whether
    anyone would want to get rid of idols or advantages, etc., or change
    the final four fire-making.-a Everyone knows how in love Jeff is with
    all these gimmicks, so it wasn't likely he'd get a lot of push back
    after putting everyone on the spot.-a Aaliyah actually admitted in a
    post-game interview that they didn't show it but Jeff called her out
    for not getting excited when he revealed the coin-toss gimmick.

    This is probably the first opening episode for me since the early 40s
    where after watching it, I probably can't remember a single name of
    any player other than maybe Jenna.

    I still haven't watched and probably won't until tomorrow as BB28 is
    nearing it's end and has been very good.

    I'm not surprised that the first episode sucked. The near absence of
    any press availability was a dead giveaway that something was wrong.
    I'm also not surprised that the cast sucked. I do wonder if the new
    people running Paramount asked for a different type of cast than we
    got for S45 to S49? If this cast is like the casts for S41 to S43
    that's not good.

    Jeff ODing on his own Kool-Aid doesn't surprise me. Did you see the
    last minute session Rob Cesternino got to do with Jeff at the live
    Survivor event in NJ on Saturday? Rob asked a lot of good questions
    and Jeff gave a lot of word salad answers. Does Jeff really believe
    the shit he says? At the end they took some audience questions. The
    last one was from a couple of young kids who wanted to know if Jeff
    thought Devens or Dee could win BB28. After Rob filled Jeff in on what
    was happening, Jeff goes off on how great Survivor casting is and how
    they test people for critical thinking skills. I don't recall ever
    hearing any past player saying they were tested for critical thinking
    skills. Anyway, Jeff needs someone to check him occasionally to keep
    him in touch with reality.


    I don't really follow BB, but I'm intrigued that Rick and Dee are still around, so I'll be skimming the last few episodes.-a So far, no one has
    ever won both Survivor and BB, so if Dee can somehow go all the way,
    that will be a big deal.

    Tonight they go from F4 to F3. Next Thursday is the finale.

    Watching Devens and Dee on the live feeds has been such a treat. Cirie
    was disappointing to watch because she spent so much time in her bedroom
    with the door shut. Devens and Dee have been actively involved in the
    game from the start. Devens's social game is amazing. For someone with a
    huge target on his head from Day 1, he's always managed to have very
    good relations with everyone in the game. Dee's having a ton of fun but
    can be cutthroat when it matters. They've also told some great Survivor stories.

    As far as I know, of the three big CBS reality shows, the only person
    who has won two of the three is Jag, and he of course benefited from the fact that most of the teams on that season of TAR were previous BB winners.

    Jag also benefited in BB25 from a twist that brought him back into the
    game after being evicted. IIRC, he got cast to be part of the next
    Traitors season. Guy seems to be everywhere.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu Sep 24 19:33:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/24/2026 4:15 PM, Zeppo wrote:
    On Sep 24, 2026, Brian Smith wrote
    (in article <1193ta2$2vn6e$1@dont-email.me>):

    Did Jeff give any hints as to what powers the coin will have?

    Yes, he went on and on and on about it.
    The succinct version is:
    -one coin toss each season
    -a winning toss adds a million dollars to the prize pot
    -a winning flipper gets an immunity idol.
    -a losing flipper is out of the game
    -after losing tosses, prize money, in million dollar increments,
    will be carried forward to future seasons



    I really hate the coin toss gimmick, because it just adds yet another
    element of randomness and pure luck to the show. I really prefer it
    when the players have to do some kind of work or show some kind of skill
    to earn an advantage. There is no skill involved in calling heads or tails. --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Fri Sep 25 00:13:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 9/24/2026 4:48 PM, Zeppo wrote:
    On Sep 24, 2026, Rick wrote
    (in article <1193qi8$24ick$1@dont-email.me>):


    None
    of the players was interesting, none really stand out to me.

    Not even rCLwrestling guyrCY, or the kid who hired somebody from Reddit to teach him out to swim, or pantless Patt? It will take me weeks to learn
    their names, but there were a fair number of characters who stood out
    IMO. Except for the excessive rCLProbstspeakrCY and the excitable mental health counsellor, I enjoyed the episode.



    They all ran together in my mind and seemed to all be mugging for the
    cameras. We've seen wrestling guy type before. I agree the kid hiring someone from Reddit to teach him to swim was a funny bit, but I couldn't
    tell if it were really true or just for the cameras. And yes, Patt
    losing her pants was also bizarrely funny in its way, but I also
    wondered if that was just a bit. At the end of the day, I couldn't tell
    you a thing about Patt after that incident.


    There was way too much Jeff talking about his stupid buzz phrase - what
    was it, planned uncertainty, permanent uncertainty?

    I agree. I have adopted the habit of fast forwarding whenever I sense
    a Probst rant beginning.


    It was also really cringe when Jeff is hammering them about whether
    anyone would want to get rid of idols or advantages, etc., or change the
    final four fire-making. Everyone knows how in love Jeff is with all
    these gimmicks, so it wasn't likely he'd get a lot of push back after
    putting everyone on the spot.

    Yes, that was a really weird moment, with Probst putting the cast on
    the spot in an attempt to settle some scores with the on-line Survivor community.
    Aaliyah actually admitted in a post-game
    interview that they didn't show it but Jeff called her out for not
    getting excited when he revealed the coin-toss gimmick.

    Probst was likely pleased with rCLmental health counsellorrCOsrCY
    response to the announcement regarding the coin flip. The
    guy went over-the-top apeshit.


    This is probably the first opening episode for me since the early 40s
    where after watching it, I probably can't remember a single name of any
    player other than maybe Jenna.

    At this point in the game, names are not important to me. Off the top
    of my head, I've got Danny, Patt, and Jenna. But, going into E02, IrCOll
    be able to recognize most of the faces.



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