• S50 Ep 11 Spoilers and Comments (5/6/2026)

    From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Wed May 6 13:13:27 2026
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    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one of
    the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC
    is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.
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    Brian
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  • From shawn@nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com to alt.tv.survivor on Wed May 6 16:59:24 2026
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    On Wed, 6 May 2026 13:13:27 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one of
    the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC
    is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    That's been my concern all day since they say (or at least suggest)
    something happens at the Immunity challenge. To me the most likely
    thing would be someone getting hurt or passing out. I don't see anyone
    in this crowd trying to cheat.

    As for Joe I can't blame her as Joe isn't doing much and makes it so
    obvious he has problem with Devens. He can't seem to get past his
    issues for even a minute.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Wed May 6 15:25:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/6/2026 2:59 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 13:13:27 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one of
    the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC
    is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    That's been my concern all day since they say (or at least suggest)
    something happens at the Immunity challenge. To me the most likely
    thing would be someone getting hurt or passing out. I don't see anyone
    in this crowd trying to cheat.

    If someone gets hurt I could see it being Cirie. Someone passing out
    could be Rizo. Hopefully whatever happens doesn't result in someone
    being removed from the game.

    As for Joe I can't blame her as Joe isn't doing much and makes it so
    obvious he has problem with Devens. He can't seem to get past his
    issues for even a minute.

    Which will probably end up costing him. I do have to wonder how close he
    and Tiff are. Would Tiff let him know that Cirie's sick of his attitude? Taking out Cirie would be good for Tiff but it might be too early for that.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Wed May 6 19:49:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one of
    the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC
    is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with just
    nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even
    so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a huge
    target on Rizo's back.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with all
    of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting ending
    for a clusterfuck of a season.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Wed May 6 23:59:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/6/2026 9:49 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one
    of the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC
    is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with just
    nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.


    What made it especially bad was that Jonathan's win in the IC was
    actually close to random. Ignoring the fact that Tiff really did keep
    both feet on the platform way too long (and I assume she just lost focus
    and wasn't deliberately cheating) - Jonathan and Emily fell off within probably less than a second of one another, so she could have easily won
    the challenge, and oh how that would have changed things.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even
    so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.


    Ozzie is a nice guy and genuinely well-liked, but he showed again why he
    is such a terrible strategic player. I thought for a minute that him
    telling Aubry everything was some kind of brilliant deliberate strategy,
    but it quickly became obvious it wasn't. That was as stupid a move as
    we have seen in a while.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down" confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a huge target on Rizo's back.


    Whether that was really a winner's edit for Aubry or not, I did have to
    laugh at her winner's pose. It's probably not likely that a producer
    told her to pose that way, so I'm sure she did that on her own.

    Regarding Rizo's idol - did you notice that on the instructions for
    Rick's idol tonight, it clearly said the idol would only be good until
    there were seven players left in the game. I wonder if Rizo's idol has
    the same expiration? The idols are usually good until final five, but I wonder if they made it final seven because they are doing so many double eliminations or maybe because they want to shake things up? If Rizo's
    idol indeed expires at seven, that means he will likely use it next
    episode assuming he doesn't win immunity (which he pretty much never does).

    With only one episode left before the finale, I guess that means it will
    be another double elimination next week.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with all
    of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting ending
    for a clusterfuck of a season.


    If Cirie gets voted out next week, that will be fine with me. I hate
    the constant fawning people people do over her, and I was really hoping
    her luck would run out tonight. I'm still thinking F3 could have Rizo,
    Tiff and Aubry - and it will be interesting to see what would happen
    then. Aubry is the only one who has been to the finals before, so that
    might give her an edge, but I think Rizo actually has more connections.
    It's also possible, maybe likely, that Joe is so unlikely to get any
    votes that he may get dragged to F3 and become the first two-time
    zero-vote finalist on any English language version of the show.

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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 02:13:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/6/2026 9:59 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 9:49 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one
    of the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The
    other sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at
    the IC is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with
    just nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.


    What made it especially bad was that Jonathan's win in the IC was
    actually close to random.-a Ignoring the fact that Tiff really did keep
    both feet on the platform way too long (and I assume she just lost focus
    and wasn't deliberately cheating) - Jonathan and Emily fell off within probably less than a second of one another, so she could have easily won
    the challenge, and oh how that would have changed things.

    Exactly!

    I wonder what would have happened if Tiff had challenged the ruling of
    the judges? Do they have a way of showing raw footage immediately on the
    spot?

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even
    so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.


    Ozzie is a nice guy and genuinely well-liked, but he showed again why he
    is such a terrible strategic player.-a I thought for a minute that him telling Aubry everything was some kind of brilliant deliberate strategy,
    but it quickly became obvious it wasn't.-a That was as stupid a move as
    we have seen in a while.

    He hadn't even worked with Aubry so it made no sense for him to layout
    the rest of his game. The only thing stupider than that move was him not playing his idol. Did Rizo's speech at TC convince him to try and save
    his idol for a future TC?

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a
    huge target on Rizo's back.


    Whether that was really a winner's edit for Aubry or not, I did have to laugh at her winner's pose.-a It's probably not likely that a producer
    told her to pose that way, so I'm sure she did that on her own.

    I don't know about that. Devens's dance routine with the drone shots was clearly choreographed by production.

    Regarding Rizo's idol - did you notice that on the instructions for
    Rick's idol tonight, it clearly said the idol would only be good until
    there were seven players left in the game.-a I wonder if Rizo's idol has
    the same expiration?-a The idols are usually good until final five, but I wonder if they made it final seven because they are doing so many double eliminations or maybe because they want to shake things up?-a If Rizo's
    idol indeed expires at seven, that means he will likely use it next
    episode assuming he doesn't win immunity (which he pretty much never does).

    The Billie Eilish idols are good to F5. That's why Devens was surprised
    the MrBeast idol was only good only until F7. I was surprised as well.

    With only one episode left before the finale, I guess that means it will
    be another double elimination next week.

    Or they could go back to the days when the finale started with six
    players. I have a feeling this is what will happen with F4 fire replaced
    by a twist that gets rid of two players.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with
    all of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting
    ending for a clusterfuck of a season.


    If Cirie gets voted out next week, that will be fine with me.-a I hate
    the constant fawning people people do over her, and I was really hoping
    her luck would run out tonight.-a I'm still thinking F3 could have Rizo, Tiff and Aubry - and it will be interesting to see what would happen
    then.-a Aubry is the only one who has been to the finals before, so that might give her an edge, but I think Rizo actually has more connections.
    It's also possible, maybe likely, that Joe is so unlikely to get any
    votes that he may get dragged to F3 and become the first two-time zero-
    vote finalist on any English language version of the show.

    If it wasn't for the extra vote she had, Cirie very well might have gone tonight.

    Joe being dragged to the end makes sense. If Rizo makes F3 I wonder if
    being viewed as a "new" player will hurt him. If he can take out Cirie
    she might campaign for him as long as Tiff is not at the end. Regardless
    of who wins, they'll have a huge asterisk by their name because of twist
    heavy and random this season has been.
    --
    Brian
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  • From shawn@nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 05:23:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On Wed, 6 May 2026 19:49:08 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one of
    the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC
    is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with just
    nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.

    Yeah, that should never happen again. It was completely unfair to the
    rest of the players.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even
    so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.

    I don't know why Ozzy thought it was necessary to try and win Aubry
    over at this point. Especially not if he also thought she should have
    been the target that night. Aubry was not the sort of player who could
    be that easily manipulated.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down" >confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a huge >target on Rizo's back.

    Yeah, at this point she and Cirie are the only two getting a possible
    winner's edit. Not that I think there's any chance of Cirie getting to
    the final TC.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with all
    of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting ending
    for a clusterfuck of a season.

    Agreed. The setup in the preview makes me wonder if Cirie goes next
    week. That would also go along with Stephenie's prediction of getting
    her revenge on Ozzy and Cirie. Ozzy this week, and Cirie next.

    The betting market, Kalshi, had Aubry as the winner since the start of
    the season. The odds have lessened over the weeks but she's still the
    predicted winner. Though I will say the predicted boot this past week
    were for Cirie up until yesterday. So someone saw something, maybe
    from CBS, that let them know Emily and Ozzy were at risk, and not
    Cirie.

    So maybe, one hopes, the winner bet on Aubry may be wrong.
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  • From shawn@nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 05:28:44 2026
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    On Wed, 6 May 2026 23:59:29 -0400, Rick <Rick@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 5/6/2026 9:49 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one
    of the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC
    is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with just
    nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.


    What made it especially bad was that Jonathan's win in the IC was
    actually close to random. Ignoring the fact that Tiff really did keep
    both feet on the platform way too long (and I assume she just lost focus
    and wasn't deliberately cheating) - Jonathan and Emily fell off within >probably less than a second of one another, so she could have easily won
    the challenge, and oh how that would have changed things.

    Damn, that would have been so great if Emily had won immunity.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even
    so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.


    Ozzie is a nice guy and genuinely well-liked, but he showed again why he
    is such a terrible strategic player. I thought for a minute that him >telling Aubry everything was some kind of brilliant deliberate strategy,
    but it quickly became obvious it wasn't. That was as stupid a move as
    we have seen in a while.

    Yeah, he was never known as a strategic player. Always so well known
    for his physical game play. I'm not even sure what he thought he was accomplishing there. Why would he give away his game to a player that
    he hopes to vote out that night?



    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a huge
    target on Rizo's back.


    Whether that was really a winner's edit for Aubry or not, I did have to >laugh at her winner's pose. It's probably not likely that a producer
    told her to pose that way, so I'm sure she did that on her own.

    Regarding Rizo's idol - did you notice that on the instructions for
    Rick's idol tonight, it clearly said the idol would only be good until
    there were seven players left in the game. I wonder if Rizo's idol has
    the same expiration? The idols are usually good until final five, but I >wonder if they made it final seven because they are doing so many double >eliminations or maybe because they want to shake things up? If Rizo's
    idol indeed expires at seven, that means he will likely use it next
    episode assuming he doesn't win immunity (which he pretty much never does).

    With only one episode left before the finale, I guess that means it will
    be another double elimination next week.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with all
    of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting ending
    for a clusterfuck of a season.


    If Cirie gets voted out next week, that will be fine with me. I hate
    the constant fawning people people do over her, and I was really hoping
    her luck would run out tonight. I'm still thinking F3 could have Rizo,
    Tiff and Aubry - and it will be interesting to see what would happen
    then. Aubry is the only one who has been to the finals before, so that >might give her an edge, but I think Rizo actually has more connections.
    It's also possible, maybe likely, that Joe is so unlikely to get any
    votes that he may get dragged to F3 and become the first two-time
    zero-vote finalist on any English language version of the show.

    I would love to see Cirie end up winning but that isn't happening. She
    truly has a great social game as well as awareness of what is going on
    in the game as we saw last night. As for Joe it's been obvious he was
    likely to get dragged to a F3 as I can't think of a single reason to
    vote for him to win.
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  • From shawn@nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 05:33:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On Thu, 7 May 2026 02:13:42 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/6/2026 9:59 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 9:49 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one >>>> of the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The
    other sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at >>>> the IC is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with
    just nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.


    What made it especially bad was that Jonathan's win in the IC was
    actually close to random.-a Ignoring the fact that Tiff really did keep
    both feet on the platform way too long (and I assume she just lost focus
    and wasn't deliberately cheating) - Jonathan and Emily fell off within
    probably less than a second of one another, so she could have easily won
    the challenge, and oh how that would have changed things.

    Exactly!

    I wonder what would have happened if Tiff had challenged the ruling of
    the judges? Do they have a way of showing raw footage immediately on the >spot?

    I'm sure that's what Jeff went to look at. It's just not right at the
    challenge site so she was always going to have to take Jeff's word.


    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even
    so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.


    Ozzie is a nice guy and genuinely well-liked, but he showed again why he
    is such a terrible strategic player.-a I thought for a minute that him
    telling Aubry everything was some kind of brilliant deliberate strategy,
    but it quickly became obvious it wasn't.-a That was as stupid a move as
    we have seen in a while.

    He hadn't even worked with Aubry so it made no sense for him to layout
    the rest of his game. The only thing stupider than that move was him not >playing his idol. Did Rizo's speech at TC convince him to try and save
    his idol for a future TC?

    I'm not sure why he thought giving his game play to Aubry was going to
    help win her over. As for not playing the idol who knows. I'm sure
    Rizo's comment probably played into his wanting to stay safe as long
    as possible. The question I would have is why he thought he was safe
    enough to not play the idol. I get why Rizzo would think that way as
    no one sees him as a big threat, but Ozzy was always seen as a threat.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a
    huge target on Rizo's back.


    Whether that was really a winner's edit for Aubry or not, I did have to
    laugh at her winner's pose.-a It's probably not likely that a producer
    told her to pose that way, so I'm sure she did that on her own.

    I don't know about that. Devens's dance routine with the drone shots was >clearly choreographed by production.

    Regarding Rizo's idol - did you notice that on the instructions for
    Rick's idol tonight, it clearly said the idol would only be good until
    there were seven players left in the game.-a I wonder if Rizo's idol has
    the same expiration?-a The idols are usually good until final five, but I >> wonder if they made it final seven because they are doing so many double
    eliminations or maybe because they want to shake things up?-a If Rizo's
    idol indeed expires at seven, that means he will likely use it next
    episode assuming he doesn't win immunity (which he pretty much never does).

    The Billie Eilish idols are good to F5. That's why Devens was surprised
    the MrBeast idol was only good only until F7. I was surprised as well.

    With only one episode left before the finale, I guess that means it will
    be another double elimination next week.

    Or they could go back to the days when the finale started with six
    players. I have a feeling this is what will happen with F4 fire replaced
    by a twist that gets rid of two players.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with
    all of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting
    ending for a clusterfuck of a season.


    If Cirie gets voted out next week, that will be fine with me.-a I hate
    the constant fawning people people do over her, and I was really hoping
    her luck would run out tonight.-a I'm still thinking F3 could have Rizo,
    Tiff and Aubry - and it will be interesting to see what would happen
    then.-a Aubry is the only one who has been to the finals before, so that
    might give her an edge, but I think Rizo actually has more connections.
    It's also possible, maybe likely, that Joe is so unlikely to get any
    votes that he may get dragged to F3 and become the first two-time zero-
    vote finalist on any English language version of the show.

    If it wasn't for the extra vote she had, Cirie very well might have gone >tonight.

    Joe being dragged to the end makes sense. If Rizo makes F3 I wonder if
    being viewed as a "new" player will hurt him. If he can take out Cirie
    she might campaign for him as long as Tiff is not at the end. Regardless
    of who wins, they'll have a huge asterisk by their name because of twist >heavy and random this season has been.
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 11:01:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/7/2026 4:13 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 9:59 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 9:49 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on
    one of the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The
    other sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident
    at the IC is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating? >>>>
    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with
    just nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.


    What made it especially bad was that Jonathan's win in the IC was
    actually close to random.-a Ignoring the fact that Tiff really did keep
    both feet on the platform way too long (and I assume she just lost
    focus and wasn't deliberately cheating) - Jonathan and Emily fell off
    within probably less than a second of one another, so she could have
    easily won the challenge, and oh how that would have changed things.

    Exactly!

    I wonder what would have happened if Tiff had challenged the ruling of
    the judges? Do they have a way of showing raw footage immediately on the spot?


    The show is recorded digitally, so they should easily be able to replay footage just as they show replays on football telecasts. And it was
    very clear, even while watching live, that she had both feet down long
    after Jeff said the challenge was on. She literally did not have a leg
    to stand on, and I suspect she knew that which is why she didn't protest
    more.

    The bigger point is that they knew the challenge would end very quickly
    once they went to standing on one leg, so they knew the ending would effectively be random. Why tie such an important advantage to a
    challenge like that? I would rather see them do a Last Gasp or a
    Simmotion, though they might be saving that one for final four. The
    show seems to love random events like the coin toss that saved Devens
    last week.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie.
    Even so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his
    entire game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him
    out.


    Ozzie is a nice guy and genuinely well-liked, but he showed again why
    he is such a terrible strategic player.-a I thought for a minute that
    him telling Aubry everything was some kind of brilliant deliberate
    strategy, but it quickly became obvious it wasn't.-a That was as stupid
    a move as we have seen in a while.

    He hadn't even worked with Aubry so it made no sense for him to layout
    the rest of his game. The only thing stupider than that move was him not playing his idol. Did Rizo's speech at TC convince him to try and save
    his idol for a future TC?


    I think Rizo has probably bragged a lot about how he held onto his idol
    in S49 as long as possible, and I think Ozzy was just trying to play
    like the smart players. What really killed him was his separation from
    Cirie, who clearly would have made him play the idol.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a
    huge target on Rizo's back.


    Whether that was really a winner's edit for Aubry or not, I did have
    to laugh at her winner's pose.-a It's probably not likely that a
    producer told her to pose that way, so I'm sure she did that on her own.

    I don't know about that. Devens's dance routine with the drone shots was clearly choreographed by production.


    No question Devens was goaded into doing that, but the producers know he
    is a buffoon so they were just playing that up. But they wouldn't have
    known at that point whether Aubry wins or not, so I just assumed she did
    that on her own. Maybe they make everyone do that.

    Regarding Rizo's idol - did you notice that on the instructions for
    Rick's idol tonight, it clearly said the idol would only be good until
    there were seven players left in the game.-a I wonder if Rizo's idol
    has the same expiration?-a The idols are usually good until final five,
    but I wonder if they made it final seven because they are doing so
    many double eliminations or maybe because they want to shake things
    up?-a If Rizo's idol indeed expires at seven, that means he will likely
    use it next episode assuming he doesn't win immunity (which he pretty
    much never does).

    The Billie Eilish idols are good to F5. That's why Devens was surprised
    the MrBeast idol was only good only until F7. I was surprised as well.


    Yeah, I wonder why they did that. Only thing I can think of is they
    want to rebury the idol with some new weird twist and they want to get
    it back in the game before F5.

    With only one episode left before the finale, I guess that means it
    will be another double elimination next week.

    Or they could go back to the days when the finale started with six
    players. I have a feeling this is what will happen with F4 fire replaced
    by a twist that gets rid of two players.


    I'm drawing a blank on when they ever had six players going into the
    final episode, but I agree that with all the twists this season that
    they could do something like that. I just hope it's not something as
    random as flipping a coin

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with
    all of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now,
    I predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting
    ending for a clusterfuck of a season.


    If Cirie gets voted out next week, that will be fine with me.-a I hate
    the constant fawning people people do over her, and I was really
    hoping her luck would run out tonight.-a I'm still thinking F3 could
    have Rizo, Tiff and Aubry - and it will be interesting to see what
    would happen then.-a Aubry is the only one who has been to the finals
    before, so that might give her an edge, but I think Rizo actually has
    more connections. It's also possible, maybe likely, that Joe is so
    unlikely to get any votes that he may get dragged to F3 and become the
    first two-time zero- vote finalist on any English language version of
    the show.

    If it wasn't for the extra vote she had, Cirie very well might have gone tonight.


    Yes, being switched to a small tribe of 3/4 is really the ideal
    situation to have an extra vote and she really lucked out with that.



    Joe being dragged to the end makes sense. If Rizo makes F3 I wonder if
    being viewed as a "new" player will hurt him. If he can take out Cirie
    she might campaign for him as long as Tiff is not at the end. Regardless
    of who wins, they'll have a huge asterisk by their name because of twist heavy and random this season has been.


    I'm not sure if Rizo is really even still thought of as a new player.
    He talks so much about himself and has talked about his strategy in S49
    and how he finished, etc., that it may be no different from players who
    know other players from only having watched their season.
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 11:05:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/7/2026 5:33 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Thu, 7 May 2026 02:13:42 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/6/2026 9:59 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 9:49 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one >>>>> of the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The
    other sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at >>>>> the IC is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with
    just nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.


    What made it especially bad was that Jonathan's win in the IC was
    actually close to random.-a Ignoring the fact that Tiff really did keep
    both feet on the platform way too long (and I assume she just lost focus >>> and wasn't deliberately cheating) - Jonathan and Emily fell off within
    probably less than a second of one another, so she could have easily won >>> the challenge, and oh how that would have changed things.

    Exactly!

    I wonder what would have happened if Tiff had challenged the ruling of
    the judges? Do they have a way of showing raw footage immediately on the
    spot?

    I'm sure that's what Jeff went to look at. It's just not right at the challenge site so she was always going to have to take Jeff's word.


    The video evidence was clearcut, and it could be that they brought a
    handheld digital device over to her and showed her the actual footage.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even >>>> so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.


    Ozzie is a nice guy and genuinely well-liked, but he showed again why he >>> is such a terrible strategic player.-a I thought for a minute that him
    telling Aubry everything was some kind of brilliant deliberate strategy, >>> but it quickly became obvious it wasn't.-a That was as stupid a move as
    we have seen in a while.

    He hadn't even worked with Aubry so it made no sense for him to layout
    the rest of his game. The only thing stupider than that move was him not
    playing his idol. Did Rizo's speech at TC convince him to try and save
    his idol for a future TC?

    I'm not sure why he thought giving his game play to Aubry was going to
    help win her over. As for not playing the idol who knows. I'm sure
    Rizo's comment probably played into his wanting to stay safe as long
    as possible. The question I would have is why he thought he was safe
    enough to not play the idol. I get why Rizzo would think that way as
    no one sees him as a big threat, but Ozzy was always seen as a threat.


    Ozzie is many things but I don't think he is really that self-aware
    about the threat he poses to others. I think he thinks of himself as
    Uncle Oscar to the younger players like Rizo and had no idea anyone was targeting him.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a
    huge target on Rizo's back.


    Whether that was really a winner's edit for Aubry or not, I did have to
    laugh at her winner's pose.-a It's probably not likely that a producer
    told her to pose that way, so I'm sure she did that on her own.

    I don't know about that. Devens's dance routine with the drone shots was
    clearly choreographed by production.

    Regarding Rizo's idol - did you notice that on the instructions for
    Rick's idol tonight, it clearly said the idol would only be good until
    there were seven players left in the game.-a I wonder if Rizo's idol has >>> the same expiration?-a The idols are usually good until final five, but I >>> wonder if they made it final seven because they are doing so many double >>> eliminations or maybe because they want to shake things up?-a If Rizo's
    idol indeed expires at seven, that means he will likely use it next
    episode assuming he doesn't win immunity (which he pretty much never does). >>
    The Billie Eilish idols are good to F5. That's why Devens was surprised
    the MrBeast idol was only good only until F7. I was surprised as well.

    With only one episode left before the finale, I guess that means it will >>> be another double elimination next week.

    Or they could go back to the days when the finale started with six
    players. I have a feeling this is what will happen with F4 fire replaced
    by a twist that gets rid of two players.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with
    all of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I >>>> predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting
    ending for a clusterfuck of a season.


    If Cirie gets voted out next week, that will be fine with me.-a I hate
    the constant fawning people people do over her, and I was really hoping
    her luck would run out tonight.-a I'm still thinking F3 could have Rizo, >>> Tiff and Aubry - and it will be interesting to see what would happen
    then.-a Aubry is the only one who has been to the finals before, so that >>> might give her an edge, but I think Rizo actually has more connections.
    It's also possible, maybe likely, that Joe is so unlikely to get any
    votes that he may get dragged to F3 and become the first two-time zero-
    vote finalist on any English language version of the show.

    If it wasn't for the extra vote she had, Cirie very well might have gone
    tonight.

    Joe being dragged to the end makes sense. If Rizo makes F3 I wonder if
    being viewed as a "new" player will hurt him. If he can take out Cirie
    she might campaign for him as long as Tiff is not at the end. Regardless
    of who wins, they'll have a huge asterisk by their name because of twist
    heavy and random this season has been.

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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 11:14:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/7/2026 5:23 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 19:49:08 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one of >>> the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC
    is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with just
    nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.

    Yeah, that should never happen again. It was completely unfair to the
    rest of the players.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even
    so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.

    I don't know why Ozzy thought it was necessary to try and win Aubry
    over at this point. Especially not if he also thought she should have
    been the target that night. Aubry was not the sort of player who could
    be that easily manipulated.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a huge
    target on Rizo's back.

    Yeah, at this point she and Cirie are the only two getting a possible winner's edit. Not that I think there's any chance of Cirie getting to
    the final TC.


    I think Rizo is also a possible winner, especially since they have
    edited out all his sick time, which they have done occasionally with
    past winners.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with all
    of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting ending
    for a clusterfuck of a season.

    Agreed. The setup in the preview makes me wonder if Cirie goes next
    week. That would also go along with Stephenie's prediction of getting
    her revenge on Ozzy and Cirie. Ozzy this week, and Cirie next.

    The betting market, Kalshi, had Aubry as the winner since the start of
    the season. The odds have lessened over the weeks but she's still the predicted winner. Though I will say the predicted boot this past week
    were for Cirie up until yesterday. So someone saw something, maybe
    from CBS, that let them know Emily and Ozzy were at risk, and not
    Cirie.

    So maybe, one hopes, the winner bet on Aubry may be wrong.

    If the betting market favors Aubry, it would suggest insider information
    that she at least makes the finale. I still think the winner will be
    read out on air, so a clear-cut Aubry win spoiler could have been from a production team member, or it could also be a deliberate leak of false information.
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  • From shawn@nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 11:35:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On Thu, 7 May 2026 11:14:39 -0400, Rick <Rick@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 5/7/2026 5:23 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 19:49:08 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one of >>>> the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC >>>> is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with just
    nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.

    Yeah, that should never happen again. It was completely unfair to the
    rest of the players.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even
    so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.

    I don't know why Ozzy thought it was necessary to try and win Aubry
    over at this point. Especially not if he also thought she should have
    been the target that night. Aubry was not the sort of player who could
    be that easily manipulated.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a huge
    target on Rizo's back.

    Yeah, at this point she and Cirie are the only two getting a possible
    winner's edit. Not that I think there's any chance of Cirie getting to
    the final TC.


    I think Rizo is also a possible winner, especially since they have
    edited out all his sick time, which they have done occasionally with
    past winners.

    Oh I agree that Rizo has been shown to be one of the smartest players
    in the game. Just not sure that we've seen him getting a winners edit.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with all
    of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting ending
    for a clusterfuck of a season.

    Agreed. The setup in the preview makes me wonder if Cirie goes next
    week. That would also go along with Stephenie's prediction of getting
    her revenge on Ozzy and Cirie. Ozzy this week, and Cirie next.

    The betting market, Kalshi, had Aubry as the winner since the start of
    the season. The odds have lessened over the weeks but she's still the
    predicted winner. Though I will say the predicted boot this past week
    were for Cirie up until yesterday. So someone saw something, maybe
    from CBS, that let them know Emily and Ozzy were at risk, and not
    Cirie.

    So maybe, one hopes, the winner bet on Aubry may be wrong.

    If the betting market favors Aubry, it would suggest insider information >that she at least makes the finale. I still think the winner will be
    read out on air, so a clear-cut Aubry win spoiler could have been from a >production team member, or it could also be a deliberate leak of false >information.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 14:51:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/7/2026 3:23 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 19:49:08 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one of >>> the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC
    is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with just
    nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.

    Yeah, that should never happen again. It was completely unfair to the
    rest of the players.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even
    so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.

    I don't know why Ozzy thought it was necessary to try and win Aubry
    over at this point. Especially not if he also thought she should have
    been the target that night. Aubry was not the sort of player who could
    be that easily manipulated.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a huge
    target on Rizo's back.

    Yeah, at this point she and Cirie are the only two getting a possible winner's edit. Not that I think there's any chance of Cirie getting to
    the final TC.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with all
    of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting ending
    for a clusterfuck of a season.

    Agreed. The setup in the preview makes me wonder if Cirie goes next
    week. That would also go along with Stephenie's prediction of getting
    her revenge on Ozzy and Cirie. Ozzy this week, and Cirie next.

    Even though Steph did spoil who would go it had nothing to do with
    revenge. If Ozzy had played rationally and/or used his idol, he would
    still be in the game.

    The betting market, Kalshi, had Aubry as the winner since the start of
    the season. The odds have lessened over the weeks but she's still the predicted winner. Though I will say the predicted boot this past week
    were for Cirie up until yesterday. So someone saw something, maybe
    from CBS, that let them know Emily and Ozzy were at risk, and not
    Cirie.

    So maybe, one hopes, the winner bet on Aubry may be wrong.

    Were there any bets or spoilers on Jeff being overruled by the panel of judges? Who determines the betting questions? The platform or can anyone
    come up with something to bet on?
    --
    Brian
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 15:02:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/7/2026 9:14 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/7/2026 5:23 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 19:49:08 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on
    one of
    the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC >>>> is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with just
    nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.

    Yeah, that should never happen again. It was completely unfair to the
    rest of the players.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even
    so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.

    I don't know why Ozzy thought it was necessary to try and win Aubry
    over at this point. Especially not if he also thought she should have
    been the target that night. Aubry was not the sort of player who could
    be that easily manipulated.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a huge
    target on Rizo's back.

    Yeah, at this point she and Cirie are the only two getting a possible
    winner's edit. Not that I think there's any chance of Cirie getting to
    the final TC.


    I think Rizo is also a possible winner, especially since they have
    edited out all his sick time, which they have done occasionally with
    past winners.

    Rizo hasn't had any confessionals where he's said something that makes
    it sounds like he wins like Aubry has. If he does win, I won't be
    complaining.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with all
    of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting ending
    for a clusterfuck of a season.

    Agreed. The setup in the preview makes me wonder if Cirie goes next
    week. That would also go along with Stephenie's prediction of getting
    her revenge on Ozzy and Cirie. Ozzy this week, and Cirie next.

    The betting market, Kalshi, had Aubry as the winner since the start of
    the season. The odds have lessened over the weeks but she's still the
    predicted winner. Though I will say the predicted boot this past week
    were for Cirie up until yesterday. So someone saw something, maybe
    from CBS, that let them know Emily and Ozzy were at risk, and not
    Cirie.

    So maybe, one hopes, the winner bet on Aubry may be wrong.

    If the betting market favors Aubry, it would suggest insider information that she at least makes the finale.-a I still think the winner will be
    read out on air, so a clear-cut Aubry win spoiler could have been from a production team member, or it could also be a deliberate leak of false information.

    In the old days, Jeff said only four or five people knew who won. It was
    him, a CBS exec, a CBS lawyer, and I believe Matt and MB. If they do
    read out the votes live at the reunion then the Aubry rumor is just that unless she won in a landslide and the players discussed their votes. If
    that's the case, then I would say Steph leaked.

    I do question if they have time to read out the votes at the reunion.
    Not sure if you're aware of this, but very recently Todd Herzog was on a podcast and said all of the past winners were invited to the reunion.
    That will waste some time for sure. It'll be super interesting to see
    who shows up!
    --
    Brian
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 15:08:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/7/2026 3:33 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Thu, 7 May 2026 02:13:42 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/6/2026 9:59 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 9:49 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one >>>>> of the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The
    other sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at >>>>> the IC is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with
    just nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.


    What made it especially bad was that Jonathan's win in the IC was
    actually close to random.-a Ignoring the fact that Tiff really did keep
    both feet on the platform way too long (and I assume she just lost focus >>> and wasn't deliberately cheating) - Jonathan and Emily fell off within
    probably less than a second of one another, so she could have easily won >>> the challenge, and oh how that would have changed things.

    Exactly!

    I wonder what would have happened if Tiff had challenged the ruling of
    the judges? Do they have a way of showing raw footage immediately on the
    spot?

    I'm sure that's what Jeff went to look at. It's just not right at the challenge site so she was always going to have to take Jeff's word.


    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even >>>> so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.


    Ozzie is a nice guy and genuinely well-liked, but he showed again why he >>> is such a terrible strategic player.-a I thought for a minute that him
    telling Aubry everything was some kind of brilliant deliberate strategy, >>> but it quickly became obvious it wasn't.-a That was as stupid a move as
    we have seen in a while.

    He hadn't even worked with Aubry so it made no sense for him to layout
    the rest of his game. The only thing stupider than that move was him not
    playing his idol. Did Rizo's speech at TC convince him to try and save
    his idol for a future TC?

    I'm not sure why he thought giving his game play to Aubry was going to
    help win her over. As for not playing the idol who knows. I'm sure
    Rizo's comment probably played into his wanting to stay safe as long
    as possible. The question I would have is why he thought he was safe
    enough to not play the idol. I get why Rizzo would think that way as
    no one sees him as a big threat, but Ozzy was always seen as a threat.

    I think Rizo had decided before TC that Ozzy is too irrational to trust
    going forward. His speech at TC was meant to trick Ozzy into not playing
    his idol and it worked.
    --
    Brian
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  • From shawn@nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 17:38:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On Thu, 7 May 2026 14:51:20 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/7/2026 3:23 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 19:49:08 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one of >>>> the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC >>>> is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with just
    nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.

    Yeah, that should never happen again. It was completely unfair to the
    rest of the players.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even
    so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.

    I don't know why Ozzy thought it was necessary to try and win Aubry
    over at this point. Especially not if he also thought she should have
    been the target that night. Aubry was not the sort of player who could
    be that easily manipulated.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a huge
    target on Rizo's back.

    Yeah, at this point she and Cirie are the only two getting a possible
    winner's edit. Not that I think there's any chance of Cirie getting to
    the final TC.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with all
    of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting ending
    for a clusterfuck of a season.

    Agreed. The setup in the preview makes me wonder if Cirie goes next
    week. That would also go along with Stephenie's prediction of getting
    her revenge on Ozzy and Cirie. Ozzy this week, and Cirie next.

    Even though Steph did spoil who would go it had nothing to do with
    revenge. If Ozzy had played rationally and/or used his idol, he would
    still be in the game.

    I didn't mean that Steph had anything to do with who went. Just that
    she was taking joy in it as part of her revenge for them turning on
    her.

    The betting market, Kalshi, had Aubry as the winner since the start of
    the season. The odds have lessened over the weeks but she's still the
    predicted winner. Though I will say the predicted boot this past week
    were for Cirie up until yesterday. So someone saw something, maybe
    from CBS, that let them know Emily and Ozzy were at risk, and not
    Cirie.

    So maybe, one hopes, the winner bet on Aubry may be wrong.

    Were there any bets or spoilers on Jeff being overruled by the panel of >judges? Who determines the betting questions? The platform or can anyone >come up with something to bet on?

    N othing that I saw about Jeff, but that is so specific I would expect
    whomever is running the site to refuse to put it up. The platform has
    to have final say but I expect the bets are initially arrived at by
    the bettors. (bettes?)
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 15:47:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/7/2026 9:01 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/7/2026 4:13 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 9:59 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 9:49 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on
    one of the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe.
    The other sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking
    incident at the IC is an injury or something like someone gets
    caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan
    won has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most
    powerful. Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such
    BS with just nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily. >>>>

    What made it especially bad was that Jonathan's win in the IC was
    actually close to random.-a Ignoring the fact that Tiff really did
    keep both feet on the platform way too long (and I assume she just
    lost focus and wasn't deliberately cheating) - Jonathan and Emily
    fell off within probably less than a second of one another, so she
    could have easily won the challenge, and oh how that would have
    changed things.

    Exactly!

    I wonder what would have happened if Tiff had challenged the ruling of
    the judges? Do they have a way of showing raw footage immediately on
    the spot?


    The show is recorded digitally, so they should easily be able to replay footage just as they show replays on football telecasts.-a And it was
    very clear, even while watching live, that she had both feet down long
    after Jeff said the challenge was on.-a She literally did not have a leg
    to stand on, and I suspect she knew that which is why she didn't protest more.

    I'm not questioning the call.Just wondering what they would have done if
    she had disagreed.

    The bigger point is that they knew the challenge would end very quickly
    once they went to standing on one leg, so they knew the ending would effectively be random.-a Why tie such an important advantage to a
    challenge like that? I would rather see them do a Last Gasp or a
    Simmotion, though they might be saving that one for final four.-a The
    show seems to love random events like the coin toss that saved Devens
    last week.

    Sadly, you're correct. Jeff is obsessed with randomness. They definitely
    need to have the advantage tied to a different challenge. Simmotion
    wouldn't have worked with nine players--too hard to film and edit.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie.
    Even so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his
    entire game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him
    out.


    Ozzie is a nice guy and genuinely well-liked, but he showed again why
    he is such a terrible strategic player.-a I thought for a minute that
    him telling Aubry everything was some kind of brilliant deliberate
    strategy, but it quickly became obvious it wasn't.-a That was as
    stupid a move as we have seen in a while.

    He hadn't even worked with Aubry so it made no sense for him to layout
    the rest of his game. The only thing stupider than that move was him
    not playing his idol. Did Rizo's speech at TC convince him to try and
    save his idol for a future TC?


    I think Rizo has probably bragged a lot about how he held onto his idol
    in S49 as long as possible, and I think Ozzy was just trying to play
    like the smart players.-a What really killed him was his separation from Cirie, who clearly would have made him play the idol.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a
    huge target on Rizo's back.


    Whether that was really a winner's edit for Aubry or not, I did have
    to laugh at her winner's pose.-a It's probably not likely that a
    producer told her to pose that way, so I'm sure she did that on her own.

    I don't know about that. Devens's dance routine with the drone shots
    was clearly choreographed by production.


    No question Devens was goaded into doing that, but the producers know he
    is a buffoon so they were just playing that up.-a But they wouldn't have known at that point whether Aubry wins or not, so I just assumed she did that on her own.-a Maybe they make everyone do that.

    I doubt Aubry did that on her own as it doesn't fit who she is. The
    producers probably know who has a good shot of winning by this point in
    the game. If she gets another winners confessional next episode I think
    that will pretty well confirm she wins.

    Regarding Rizo's idol - did you notice that on the instructions for
    Rick's idol tonight, it clearly said the idol would only be good
    until there were seven players left in the game.-a I wonder if Rizo's
    idol has the same expiration?-a The idols are usually good until final
    five, but I wonder if they made it final seven because they are doing
    so many double eliminations or maybe because they want to shake
    things up?-a If Rizo's idol indeed expires at seven, that means he
    will likely use it next episode assuming he doesn't win immunity
    (which he pretty much never does).

    The Billie Eilish idols are good to F5. That's why Devens was
    surprised the MrBeast idol was only good only until F7. I was
    surprised as well.


    Yeah, I wonder why they did that.-a Only thing I can think of is they
    want to rebury the idol with some new weird twist and they want to get
    it back in the game before F5.

    That makes a lot of sense. The new twist could replace fire at F4.

    With only one episode left before the finale, I guess that means it
    will be another double elimination next week.

    Or they could go back to the days when the finale started with six
    players. I have a feeling this is what will happen with F4 fire
    replaced by a twist that gets rid of two players.


    I'm drawing a blank on when they ever had six players going into the
    final episode, but I agree that with all the twists this season that
    they could do something like that.-a I just hope it's not something as random as flipping a coin

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with
    all of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now,
    I predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting
    ending for a clusterfuck of a season.


    If Cirie gets voted out next week, that will be fine with me.-a I hate
    the constant fawning people people do over her, and I was really
    hoping her luck would run out tonight.-a I'm still thinking F3 could
    have Rizo, Tiff and Aubry - and it will be interesting to see what
    would happen then.-a Aubry is the only one who has been to the finals
    before, so that might give her an edge, but I think Rizo actually has
    more connections. It's also possible, maybe likely, that Joe is so
    unlikely to get any votes that he may get dragged to F3 and become
    the first two-time zero- vote finalist on any English language
    version of the show.

    If it wasn't for the extra vote she had, Cirie very well might have
    gone tonight.


    Yes, being switched to a small tribe of 3/4 is really the ideal
    situation to have an extra vote and she really lucked out with that.

    That's what ended Emily.

    Joe being dragged to the end makes sense. If Rizo makes F3 I wonder if
    being viewed as a "new" player will hurt him. If he can take out Cirie
    she might campaign for him as long as Tiff is not at the end.
    Regardless of who wins, they'll have a huge asterisk by their name
    because of twist heavy and random this season has been.


    I'm not sure if Rizo is really even still thought of as a new player. He talks so much about himself and has talked about his strategy in S49 and
    how he finished, etc., that it may be no different from players who know other players from only having watched their season.

    True, except no one had seen Rizo play. Half the cast might not have
    seen Emily play but there were players who did. Rizo was an unknown
    entity who had to rely on the others believing his stories.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 17:58:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/7/2026 5:02 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/7/2026 9:14 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/7/2026 5:23 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 19:49:08 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on
    one of
    the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC >>>>> is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with just >>>> nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.

    Yeah, that should never happen again. It was completely unfair to the
    rest of the players.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even >>>> so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.

    I don't know why Ozzy thought it was necessary to try and win Aubry
    over at this point. Especially not if he also thought she should have
    been the target that night. Aubry was not the sort of player who could
    be that easily manipulated.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a huge >>>> target on Rizo's back.

    Yeah, at this point she and Cirie are the only two getting a possible
    winner's edit. Not that I think there's any chance of Cirie getting to
    the final TC.


    I think Rizo is also a possible winner, especially since they have
    edited out all his sick time, which they have done occasionally with
    past winners.

    Rizo hasn't had any confessionals where he's said something that makes
    it sounds like he wins like Aubry has. If he does win, I won't be complaining.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with all >>>> of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting ending >>>> for a clusterfuck of a season.

    Agreed. The setup in the preview makes me wonder if Cirie goes next
    week. That would also go along with Stephenie's prediction of getting
    her revenge on Ozzy and Cirie. Ozzy this week, and Cirie next.

    The betting market, Kalshi, had Aubry as the winner since the start of
    the season. The odds have lessened over the weeks but she's still the
    predicted winner. Though I will say the predicted boot this past week
    were for Cirie up until yesterday. So someone saw something, maybe
    from CBS, that let them know Emily and Ozzy were at risk, and not
    Cirie.

    So maybe, one hopes, the winner bet on Aubry may be wrong.

    If the betting market favors Aubry, it would suggest insider
    information that she at least makes the finale.-a I still think the
    winner will be read out on air, so a clear-cut Aubry win spoiler could
    have been from a production team member, or it could also be a
    deliberate leak of false information.

    In the old days, Jeff said only four or five people knew who won. It was him, a CBS exec, a CBS lawyer, and I believe Matt and MB. If they do
    read out the votes live at the reunion then the Aubry rumor is just that unless she won in a landslide and the players discussed their votes. If that's the case, then I would say Steph leaked.


    It's hard to imagine Aubry winning in a landslide unless maybe she goes
    up against Joe and Jonathan, and I would think even Jonathan would get
    some votes. Maybe she goes up against Joe and Devens? That would be a
    really weird final three and I'm not sure how we'd get there, but you'd
    think Devens would certainly be able to talk to the jury and maybe get
    votes from Christian, Ozzie and a few others. It's also hard to imagine
    10 jurors all violating their NDAs by talking to one another or
    outsiders. So yeah, it would probably be Stephenie talking to someone
    on her own based on what she heard at Ponderosa.

    I do question if they have time to read out the votes at the reunion.
    Not sure if you're aware of this, but very recently Todd Herzog was on a podcast and said all of the past winners were invited to the reunion.
    That will waste some time for sure. It'll be super interesting to see
    who shows up!


    All the past winners? Jeff really doesn't care for Brian Heidik so it's
    hard to see him getting an invite or even coming. Same with Richard
    Hatch. Chris Daugherty? Probably circle No on that one too. Be really interesting if any of them show up. I also wonder if Jeff will actually
    talk to many of the prior winners or just the usual big names like Rob, Sandra, Tony and Parvati, assuming they show up.

    TBH, it might be interesting to see how some of the former winners even
    look today after, in some case, 20 or more years of not being in the
    public eye. I can't even imagine what Fabio would look like today.

    As for not having time to read the votes, that's the major thing they
    are doing, so I can't believe they wouldn't do it live. Problem is,
    they have been delaying the reunion/after show so much past 10:00 the
    past several seasons that we may only get 20 minutes or so of actual
    reunion time, and it just depends on how much time Jeff wants to
    schmooze with whatever other celebs he has in the audience. Please save
    me if Billie Eilish shows up. One thing is sure, which is that the days
    of talking to every cast member, as they did in the early reunions are
    long past us. So don't expect to hear a lot form Jenna Lewis.
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 18:07:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/7/2026 5:47 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/7/2026 9:01 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/7/2026 4:13 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 9:59 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 9:49 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on >>>>>> one of the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe.
    The other sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking
    incident at the IC is an injury or something like someone gets
    caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan
    won has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most
    powerful. Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is
    such BS with just nine players left. Of course the twist screws
    over Emily.


    What made it especially bad was that Jonathan's win in the IC was
    actually close to random.-a Ignoring the fact that Tiff really did
    keep both feet on the platform way too long (and I assume she just
    lost focus and wasn't deliberately cheating) - Jonathan and Emily
    fell off within probably less than a second of one another, so she
    could have easily won the challenge, and oh how that would have
    changed things.

    Exactly!

    I wonder what would have happened if Tiff had challenged the ruling
    of the judges? Do they have a way of showing raw footage immediately
    on the spot?


    The show is recorded digitally, so they should easily be able to
    replay footage just as they show replays on football telecasts.-a And
    it was very clear, even while watching live, that she had both feet
    down long after Jeff said the challenge was on.-a She literally did not
    have a leg to stand on, and I suspect she knew that which is why she
    didn't protest more.

    I'm not questioning the call.Just wondering what they would have done if
    she had disagreed.

    The bigger point is that they knew the challenge would end very
    quickly once they went to standing on one leg, so they knew the ending
    would effectively be random.-a Why tie such an important advantage to a
    challenge like that? I would rather see them do a Last Gasp or a
    Simmotion, though they might be saving that one for final four.-a The
    show seems to love random events like the coin toss that saved Devens
    last week.

    Sadly, you're correct. Jeff is obsessed with randomness. They definitely need to have the advantage tied to a different challenge. Simmotion
    wouldn't have worked with nine players--too hard to film and edit.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie.
    Even so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his
    entire game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted
    him out.


    Ozzie is a nice guy and genuinely well-liked, but he showed again
    why he is such a terrible strategic player.-a I thought for a minute
    that him telling Aubry everything was some kind of brilliant
    deliberate strategy, but it quickly became obvious it wasn't.-a That
    was as stupid a move as we have seen in a while.

    He hadn't even worked with Aubry so it made no sense for him to
    layout the rest of his game. The only thing stupider than that move
    was him not playing his idol. Did Rizo's speech at TC convince him to
    try and save his idol for a future TC?


    I think Rizo has probably bragged a lot about how he held onto his
    idol in S49 as long as possible, and I think Ozzy was just trying to
    play like the smart players.-a What really killed him was his
    separation from Cirie, who clearly would have made him play the idol.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms
    she wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will
    put a huge target on Rizo's back.


    Whether that was really a winner's edit for Aubry or not, I did have
    to laugh at her winner's pose.-a It's probably not likely that a
    producer told her to pose that way, so I'm sure she did that on her
    own.

    I don't know about that. Devens's dance routine with the drone shots
    was clearly choreographed by production.


    No question Devens was goaded into doing that, but the producers know
    he is a buffoon so they were just playing that up.-a But they wouldn't
    have known at that point whether Aubry wins or not, so I just assumed
    she did that on her own.-a Maybe they make everyone do that.

    I doubt Aubry did that on her own as it doesn't fit who she is. The producers probably know who has a good shot of winning by this point in
    the game. If she gets another winners confessional next episode I think
    that will pretty well confirm she wins.


    How would the producers possibly know at that point with nine players
    still in the game who might have a good shot at winning? They are not
    mind readers. And even if they were, I doubt if the other players are collectively thinking at that point that Aubry is the likely winner. So
    why would producers think that?

    I didn't think eating that caterpillar as aggressively as she did really
    fit who she is, so I think there are sides of Aubry we haven't seen. I
    could easily see her adopting that pose on her own. I could also see a producer asking her to do it, but then they probably had everyone do it
    to at some point.



    Regarding Rizo's idol - did you notice that on the instructions for
    Rick's idol tonight, it clearly said the idol would only be good
    until there were seven players left in the game.-a I wonder if Rizo's >>>> idol has the same expiration?-a The idols are usually good until
    final five, but I wonder if they made it final seven because they
    are doing so many double eliminations or maybe because they want to
    shake things up?-a If Rizo's idol indeed expires at seven, that means >>>> he will likely use it next episode assuming he doesn't win immunity
    (which he pretty much never does).

    The Billie Eilish idols are good to F5. That's why Devens was
    surprised the MrBeast idol was only good only until F7. I was
    surprised as well.


    Yeah, I wonder why they did that.-a Only thing I can think of is they
    want to rebury the idol with some new weird twist and they want to get
    it back in the game before F5.

    That makes a lot of sense. The new twist could replace fire at F4.

    With only one episode left before the finale, I guess that means it
    will be another double elimination next week.

    Or they could go back to the days when the finale started with six
    players. I have a feeling this is what will happen with F4 fire
    replaced by a twist that gets rid of two players.


    I'm drawing a blank on when they ever had six players going into the
    final episode, but I agree that with all the twists this season that
    they could do something like that.-a I just hope it's not something as
    random as flipping a coin

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with >>>>> all of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of
    now, I predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a
    fitting ending for a clusterfuck of a season.


    If Cirie gets voted out next week, that will be fine with me.-a I
    hate the constant fawning people people do over her, and I was
    really hoping her luck would run out tonight.-a I'm still thinking F3 >>>> could have Rizo, Tiff and Aubry - and it will be interesting to see
    what would happen then.-a Aubry is the only one who has been to the
    finals before, so that might give her an edge, but I think Rizo
    actually has more connections. It's also possible, maybe likely,
    that Joe is so unlikely to get any votes that he may get dragged to
    F3 and become the first two-time zero- vote finalist on any English
    language version of the show.

    If it wasn't for the extra vote she had, Cirie very well might have
    gone tonight.


    Yes, being switched to a small tribe of 3/4 is really the ideal
    situation to have an extra vote and she really lucked out with that.

    That's what ended Emily.

    Joe being dragged to the end makes sense. If Rizo makes F3 I wonder
    if being viewed as a "new" player will hurt him. If he can take out
    Cirie she might campaign for him as long as Tiff is not at the end.
    Regardless of who wins, they'll have a huge asterisk by their name
    because of twist heavy and random this season has been.


    I'm not sure if Rizo is really even still thought of as a new player.
    He talks so much about himself and has talked about his strategy in
    S49 and how he finished, etc., that it may be no different from
    players who know other players from only having watched their season.

    True, except no one had seen Rizo play. Half the cast might not have
    seen Emily play but there were players who did. Rizo was an unknown
    entity who had to rely on the others believing his stories.


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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 18:32:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/7/2026 5:38 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Thu, 7 May 2026 14:51:20 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/7/2026 3:23 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 19:49:08 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on one of >>>>> the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other
    sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at the IC >>>>> is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won
    has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with just >>>> nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.

    Yeah, that should never happen again. It was completely unfair to the
    rest of the players.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even >>>> so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire
    game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.

    I don't know why Ozzy thought it was necessary to try and win Aubry
    over at this point. Especially not if he also thought she should have
    been the target that night. Aubry was not the sort of player who could
    be that easily manipulated.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she
    wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a huge >>>> target on Rizo's back.

    Yeah, at this point she and Cirie are the only two getting a possible
    winner's edit. Not that I think there's any chance of Cirie getting to
    the final TC.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with all >>>> of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting ending >>>> for a clusterfuck of a season.

    Agreed. The setup in the preview makes me wonder if Cirie goes next
    week. That would also go along with Stephenie's prediction of getting
    her revenge on Ozzy and Cirie. Ozzy this week, and Cirie next.

    Even though Steph did spoil who would go it had nothing to do with
    revenge. If Ozzy had played rationally and/or used his idol, he would
    still be in the game.

    I didn't mean that Steph had anything to do with who went. Just that
    she was taking joy in it as part of her revenge for them turning on
    her.

    The betting market, Kalshi, had Aubry as the winner since the start of
    the season. The odds have lessened over the weeks but she's still the
    predicted winner. Though I will say the predicted boot this past week
    were for Cirie up until yesterday. So someone saw something, maybe
    from CBS, that let them know Emily and Ozzy were at risk, and not
    Cirie.

    So maybe, one hopes, the winner bet on Aubry may be wrong.

    Were there any bets or spoilers on Jeff being overruled by the panel of
    judges? Who determines the betting questions? The platform or can anyone
    come up with something to bet on?

    N othing that I saw about Jeff, but that is so specific I would expect whomever is running the site to refuse to put it up. The platform has
    to have final say but I expect the bets are initially arrived at by
    the bettors. (bettes?)

    Bettors
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 16:49:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/7/2026 3:58 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/7/2026 5:02 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/7/2026 9:14 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/7/2026 5:23 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 19:49:08 -0600, Brian Smith <dcg_brian@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote:

    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on >>>>>> one of
    the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. The other >>>>>> sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking incident at
    the IC
    is an injury or something like someone gets caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan won >>>>> has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most powerful.
    Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is such BS with
    just
    nine players left. Of course the twist screws over Emily.

    Yeah, that should never happen again. It was completely unfair to the
    rest of the players.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. Even >>>>> so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his entire >>>>> game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted him out.

    I don't know why Ozzy thought it was necessary to try and win Aubry
    over at this point. Especially not if he also thought she should have
    been the target that night. Aubry was not the sort of player who could >>>> be that easily manipulated.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down"
    confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms she >>>>> wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will put a
    huge
    target on Rizo's back.

    Yeah, at this point she and Cirie are the only two getting a possible
    winner's edit. Not that I think there's any chance of Cirie getting to >>>> the final TC.


    I think Rizo is also a possible winner, especially since they have
    edited out all his sick time, which they have done occasionally with
    past winners.

    Rizo hasn't had any confessionals where he's said something that makes
    it sounds like he wins like Aubry has. If he does win, I won't be
    complaining.

    I'm also questioning Cirie making it to the end now. Of course with >>>>> all
    of these random crazy twists anything can happen, but as of now, I
    predict F3 will be Aubry, Jonathan, and Tiff. It'll be a fitting
    ending
    for a clusterfuck of a season.

    Agreed. The setup in the preview makes me wonder if Cirie goes next
    week. That would also go along with Stephenie's prediction of getting
    her revenge on Ozzy and Cirie. Ozzy this week, and Cirie next.

    The betting market, Kalshi, had Aubry as the winner since the start of >>>> the season. The odds have lessened over the weeks but she's still the
    predicted winner. Though I will say the predicted boot this past week
    were for Cirie up until yesterday. So someone saw something, maybe
    from CBS, that let them know Emily and Ozzy were at risk, and not
    Cirie.

    So maybe, one hopes, the winner bet on Aubry may be wrong.

    If the betting market favors Aubry, it would suggest insider
    information that she at least makes the finale.-a I still think the
    winner will be read out on air, so a clear-cut Aubry win spoiler
    could have been from a production team member, or it could also be a
    deliberate leak of false information.

    In the old days, Jeff said only four or five people knew who won. It
    was him, a CBS exec, a CBS lawyer, and I believe Matt and MB. If they
    do read out the votes live at the reunion then the Aubry rumor is just
    that unless she won in a landslide and the players discussed their
    votes. If that's the case, then I would say Steph leaked.


    It's hard to imagine Aubry winning in a landslide unless maybe she goes
    up against Joe and Jonathan, and I would think even Jonathan would get
    some votes.-a Maybe she goes up against Joe and Devens? That would be a really weird final three and I'm not sure how we'd get there, but you'd think Devens would certainly be able to talk to the jury and maybe get
    votes from Christian, Ozzie and a few others.-a It's also hard to imagine
    10 jurors all violating their NDAs by talking to one another or
    outsiders.-a So yeah, it would probably be Stephenie talking to someone
    on her own based on what she heard at Ponderosa.

    If Devens makes it to the end up against Aubry I think he would win. Or
    at least do better than her in terms of getting votes.

    I can see the old school players talking to each other about how they
    voted, but I don't see anyone talking to outsiders other than possibly
    Steph.

    I do question if they have time to read out the votes at the reunion.
    Not sure if you're aware of this, but very recently Todd Herzog was on
    a podcast and said all of the past winners were invited to the
    reunion. That will waste some time for sure. It'll be super
    interesting to see who shows up!


    All the past winners?-a Jeff really doesn't care for Brian Heidik so it's hard to see him getting an invite or even coming.-a Same with Richard Hatch.-a Chris Daugherty?-a Probably circle No on that one too.-a Be really interesting if any of them show up.-a I also wonder if Jeff will actually talk to many of the prior winners or just the usual big names like Rob, Sandra, Tony and Parvati, assuming they show up.

    Yes,all the past winners according to Todd. BB did this once and people
    were positive that certain winners would not be invited but they were
    all there IIRC. I doubt Jeff did the inviting. If Jeff talks to any past players I hope Michele is one of them.
    TBH, it might be interesting to see how some of the former winners even
    look today after, in some case, 20 or more years of not being in the
    public eye.-a I can't even imagine what Fabio would look like today.

    I'm surprised they found him. I'd like to see what Natalie White looks
    like now.

    As for not having time to read the votes, that's the major thing they
    are doing, so I can't believe they wouldn't do it live.-a Problem is,
    they have been delaying the reunion/after show so much past 10:00 the
    past several seasons that we may only get 20 minutes or so of actual
    reunion time, and it just depends on how much time Jeff wants to
    schmooze with whatever other celebs he has in the audience.-a Please save
    me if Billie Eilish shows up.-a One thing is sure, which is that the days
    of talking to every cast member, as they did in the early reunions are
    long past us.-a So don't expect to hear a lot form Jenna Lewis.

    The super short reunion shows of late is why I wouldn't be surprised if
    they read the votes out in Fiji. That would actually be my preference. I
    can see MrBeast being there to hand out one million dollar check while
    Jeff hands out the other. And don't forget about Mike White. After last night's episode, I hope he gives Emily a cameo in White Lotus.

    Don't worry about Billie Eilish being at the reunion show. Worry about
    Zac Brown. I don't think I posted this story about Coach. Anyway, after
    Zac Brown's episode, Coach was at a live watch party where he answered questions and told stories after the episode. He said Zac Brown kept
    playing even though the producers told him to stop because they had to
    get everyone to TC. He didn't listen according to Coach. Coach said that
    after about 10 songs the producers forced him to stop because they had a schedule to follow. I can see them making it up to Zac by allowing him
    to do a song at the reunion. I'd rather have Billie Eilish. With her
    concert movie coming out in about a month maybe that will happen.

    We'll be lucky to hear more than a few words from the winner and
    possibly last goodbyes from Ozzy and Cirie.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Thu May 7 17:02:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 5/7/2026 4:07 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/7/2026 5:47 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/7/2026 9:01 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/7/2026 4:13 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 9:59 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 9:49 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 5/6/2026 1:13 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Tonight's episode is titled "Everyone Will Be Shooketh!" Based on >>>>>>> one of the sneak peeks, it looks like Cirie has had it with Joe. >>>>>>> The other sneak peek has me worried. I wonder if the shocking
    incident at the IC is an injury or something like someone gets
    caught cheating?

    More later.

    I was shooketh after watching the episode. The advantage Jonathan >>>>>> won has to be one of the most powerful ever if not the most
    powerful. Splitting the losers into tribes and doing two TCs is
    such BS with just nine players left. Of course the twist screws
    over Emily.


    What made it especially bad was that Jonathan's win in the IC was
    actually close to random.-a Ignoring the fact that Tiff really did
    keep both feet on the platform way too long (and I assume she just
    lost focus and wasn't deliberately cheating) - Jonathan and Emily
    fell off within probably less than a second of one another, so she
    could have easily won the challenge, and oh how that would have
    changed things.

    Exactly!

    I wonder what would have happened if Tiff had challenged the ruling
    of the judges? Do they have a way of showing raw footage immediately
    on the spot?


    The show is recorded digitally, so they should easily be able to
    replay footage just as they show replays on football telecasts.-a And
    it was very clear, even while watching live, that she had both feet
    down long after Jeff said the challenge was on.-a She literally did
    not have a leg to stand on, and I suspect she knew that which is why
    she didn't protest more.

    I'm not questioning the call.Just wondering what they would have done
    if she had disagreed.

    The bigger point is that they knew the challenge would end very
    quickly once they went to standing on one leg, so they knew the
    ending would effectively be random.-a Why tie such an important
    advantage to a challenge like that? I would rather see them do a Last
    Gasp or a Simmotion, though they might be saving that one for final
    four.-a The show seems to love random events like the coin toss that
    saved Devens last week.

    Sadly, you're correct. Jeff is obsessed with randomness. They
    definitely need to have the advantage tied to a different challenge.
    Simmotion wouldn't have worked with nine players--too hard to film and
    edit.

    Tonight showed that Ozzy was useless strategically without Cirie. >>>>>> Even so, I was really surprised at how stupid he was giving up his >>>>>> entire game to Aubry. No wonder even his buds Joe and Rizo voted
    him out.


    Ozzie is a nice guy and genuinely well-liked, but he showed again
    why he is such a terrible strategic player.-a I thought for a minute >>>>> that him telling Aubry everything was some kind of brilliant
    deliberate strategy, but it quickly became obvious it wasn't.-a That >>>>> was as stupid a move as we have seen in a while.

    He hadn't even worked with Aubry so it made no sense for him to
    layout the rest of his game. The only thing stupider than that move
    was him not playing his idol. Did Rizo's speech at TC convince him
    to try and save his idol for a future TC?


    I think Rizo has probably bragged a lot about how he held onto his
    idol in S49 as long as possible, and I think Ozzy was just trying to
    play like the smart players.-a What really killed him was his
    separation from Cirie, who clearly would have made him play the idol.

    Sadly, Aubry got another winners edit tonight. The "burn it down" >>>>>> confessional which ended with the pose shot pretty well confirms
    she wins as far as I'm concerned. Having the only idol left will
    put a huge target on Rizo's back.


    Whether that was really a winner's edit for Aubry or not, I did
    have to laugh at her winner's pose.-a It's probably not likely that >>>>> a producer told her to pose that way, so I'm sure she did that on
    her own.

    I don't know about that. Devens's dance routine with the drone shots
    was clearly choreographed by production.


    No question Devens was goaded into doing that, but the producers know
    he is a buffoon so they were just playing that up.-a But they wouldn't
    have known at that point whether Aubry wins or not, so I just assumed
    she did that on her own.-a Maybe they make everyone do that.

    I doubt Aubry did that on her own as it doesn't fit who she is. The
    producers probably know who has a good shot of winning by this point
    in the game. If she gets another winners confessional next episode I
    think that will pretty well confirm she wins.


    How would the producers possibly know at that point with nine players
    still in the game who might have a good shot at winning?-a They are not
    mind readers.-a And even if they were, I doubt if the other players are collectively thinking at that point that Aubry is the likely winner. So
    why would producers think that?

    The producers talk to the players a lot. They have a good idea of who's
    got a good understanding of what's going on and who doesn't.

    I didn't think eating that caterpillar as aggressively as she did really
    fit who she is, so I think there are sides of Aubry we haven't seen.-a I could easily see her adopting that pose on her own.-a I could also see a producer asking her to do it, but then they probably had everyone do it
    to at some point.

    That pose would look even more ridiculous if Cirie did it. I don't see
    Emily doing things that are not who she is. No need to ask Rizo to act
    cocky. I can see Aubry agreeing to pose because I think she's interested
    in doing other shows now. That pose got her screentime. Her new
    cockiness could lead to an invite on The Traitors which is something a
    lot of people want. Short easy schedule with very decent money.
    --
    Brian
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