• Jimmy Fallon twist had another wrinkle to it

    From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Sat Apr 25 13:30:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    Mike Bloom rewatched the last episode and discovered that if Christian
    had solved the puzzle he had another option concerning his vote. Tweet
    from Mike:

    Was rewatching this week's #Survivor50 and saw another wrinkle to the
    Jimmy Fallon twist

    If Christian had won, not only would he have 1 automatic vote against
    someone, he also could have banked his vote to use as an extra vote
    between now and Final 7

    https://x.com/AMikeBloomType/status/2048034818743480708

    He included a screenshot of the parchment in his tweet. I wonder why
    they skipped over that part in the episode? The twist sounds a lot
    better knowing that Christian could have gained a decent advantage.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Sat Apr 25 15:07:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 4/25/2026 2:53 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 3:30 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Mike Bloom rewatched the last episode and discovered that if Christian
    had solved the puzzle he had another option concerning his vote. Tweet
    from Mike:

    Was rewatching this week's #Survivor50 and saw another wrinkle to the
    Jimmy Fallon twist

    If Christian had won, not only would he have 1 automatic vote against
    someone, he also could have banked his vote to use as an extra vote
    between now and Final 7

    https://x.com/AMikeBloomType/status/2048034818743480708

    He included a screenshot of the parchment in his tweet. I wonder why
    they skipped over that part in the episode? The twist sounds a lot
    better knowing that Christian could have gained a decent advantage.


    I saw that when it aired because I paused the screen and read the whole thing.-a I think they left it out because it didn't turn out to be
    relevant and it was already becoming an overly complicated reward.-a My
    rule of thumb is always - if you have the read the parchment more than
    once to understand it, it's probably too complicated.-a I had to read
    this a couple of times.

    The note was a bit confusing the way it was worded. It would have been
    better if it had said you get to prevote for someone plus you get an
    extra vote that you can use anytime up to and including F7.

    Something I was trying to figure out was how long Christian actually had
    to solve the puzzle.-a They probably didn't show it in real time, but
    just watching the ropes go in the water, it still seemed that there was barely enough time to solve the puzzle if you were really going fast and knew where each piece went.-a I wonder if they had particularly fast
    solvers on the dream team the day they tested this.

    He had the exact same amount of time that Rachel had in S47. Christian
    said time wasn't a factor. He said he panicked. If you rewatch when
    Rachel did the challenge, she was very focused. Surprisingly, Christian
    wasn't focused at all. I also thought the puzzle was a lot easier than
    sorting the balls.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Sat Apr 25 16:53:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 4/25/2026 3:30 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Mike Bloom rewatched the last episode and discovered that if Christian
    had solved the puzzle he had another option concerning his vote. Tweet
    from Mike:

    Was rewatching this week's #Survivor50 and saw another wrinkle to the
    Jimmy Fallon twist

    If Christian had won, not only would he have 1 automatic vote against someone, he also could have banked his vote to use as an extra vote
    between now and Final 7

    https://x.com/AMikeBloomType/status/2048034818743480708

    He included a screenshot of the parchment in his tweet. I wonder why
    they skipped over that part in the episode? The twist sounds a lot
    better knowing that Christian could have gained a decent advantage.


    I saw that when it aired because I paused the screen and read the whole
    thing. I think they left it out because it didn't turn out to be
    relevant and it was already becoming an overly complicated reward. My
    rule of thumb is always - if you have the read the parchment more than
    once to understand it, it's probably too complicated. I had to read
    this a couple of times.

    Something I was trying to figure out was how long Christian actually had
    to solve the puzzle. They probably didn't show it in real time, but
    just watching the ropes go in the water, it still seemed that there was
    barely enough time to solve the puzzle if you were really going fast and
    knew where each piece went. I wonder if they had particularly fast
    solvers on the dream team the day they tested this.
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Sun Apr 26 13:37:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 4/25/2026 5:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 2:53 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 3:30 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Mike Bloom rewatched the last episode and discovered that if
    Christian had solved the puzzle he had another option concerning his
    vote. Tweet from Mike:

    Was rewatching this week's #Survivor50 and saw another wrinkle to the
    Jimmy Fallon twist

    If Christian had won, not only would he have 1 automatic vote against
    someone, he also could have banked his vote to use as an extra vote
    between now and Final 7

    https://x.com/AMikeBloomType/status/2048034818743480708

    He included a screenshot of the parchment in his tweet. I wonder why
    they skipped over that part in the episode? The twist sounds a lot
    better knowing that Christian could have gained a decent advantage.


    I saw that when it aired because I paused the screen and read the
    whole thing.-a I think they left it out because it didn't turn out to
    be relevant and it was already becoming an overly complicated reward.
    My rule of thumb is always - if you have the read the parchment more
    than once to understand it, it's probably too complicated.-a I had to
    read this a couple of times.

    The note was a bit confusing the way it was worded. It would have been better if it had said you get to prevote for someone plus you get an
    extra vote that you can use anytime up to and including F7.

    Something I was trying to figure out was how long Christian actually
    had to solve the puzzle.-a They probably didn't show it in real time,
    but just watching the ropes go in the water, it still seemed that
    there was barely enough time to solve the puzzle if you were really
    going fast and knew where each piece went.-a I wonder if they had
    particularly fast solvers on the dream team the day they tested this.

    He had the exact same amount of time that Rachel had in S47. Christian
    said time wasn't a factor. He said he panicked. If you rewatch when
    Rachel did the challenge, she was very focused. Surprisingly, Christian wasn't focused at all. I also thought the puzzle was a lot easier than sorting the balls.


    As brilliant as Christian is, he definitely comes across as very
    emotional at times, whereas, as you correctly note, Rachel was
    laser-focused.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Sun Apr 26 14:25:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 4/26/2026 11:37 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 5:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 2:53 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 3:30 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Mike Bloom rewatched the last episode and discovered that if
    Christian had solved the puzzle he had another option concerning his
    vote. Tweet from Mike:

    Was rewatching this week's #Survivor50 and saw another wrinkle to
    the Jimmy Fallon twist

    If Christian had won, not only would he have 1 automatic vote
    against someone, he also could have banked his vote to use as an
    extra vote between now and Final 7

    https://x.com/AMikeBloomType/status/2048034818743480708

    He included a screenshot of the parchment in his tweet. I wonder why
    they skipped over that part in the episode? The twist sounds a lot
    better knowing that Christian could have gained a decent advantage.


    I saw that when it aired because I paused the screen and read the
    whole thing.-a I think they left it out because it didn't turn out to
    be relevant and it was already becoming an overly complicated reward.
    My rule of thumb is always - if you have the read the parchment more
    than once to understand it, it's probably too complicated.-a I had to
    read this a couple of times.

    The note was a bit confusing the way it was worded. It would have been
    better if it had said you get to prevote for someone plus you get an
    extra vote that you can use anytime up to and including F7.

    Something I was trying to figure out was how long Christian actually
    had to solve the puzzle.-a They probably didn't show it in real time,
    but just watching the ropes go in the water, it still seemed that
    there was barely enough time to solve the puzzle if you were really
    going fast and knew where each piece went.-a I wonder if they had
    particularly fast solvers on the dream team the day they tested this.

    He had the exact same amount of time that Rachel had in S47. Christian
    said time wasn't a factor. He said he panicked. If you rewatch when
    Rachel did the challenge, she was very focused. Surprisingly,
    Christian wasn't focused at all. I also thought the puzzle was a lot
    easier than sorting the balls.


    As brilliant as Christian is, he definitely comes across as very
    emotional at times, whereas, as you correctly note, Rachel was laser- focused.

    I don't recall Christian being emotional at all in S37. Even when
    comforting Gabby I thought he was pretty level headed. I wonder how much
    of a role his son played in him being so emotional this time? I think he
    was definitely a factor which is why we saw the confessional of
    Christian talking about him in the first episode. I think Mike White
    also played a role. I got the impression that Christian wasn't thrilled
    that he was cast. He probably won't be happy either at the live reunion
    when Mike White gets an entire segment to announce who gets a cameo on
    the next season of White Lotus.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Sun Apr 26 16:58:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 4/26/2026 4:25 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 11:37 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 5:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 2:53 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 3:30 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Mike Bloom rewatched the last episode and discovered that if
    Christian had solved the puzzle he had another option concerning
    his vote. Tweet from Mike:

    Was rewatching this week's #Survivor50 and saw another wrinkle to
    the Jimmy Fallon twist

    If Christian had won, not only would he have 1 automatic vote
    against someone, he also could have banked his vote to use as an
    extra vote between now and Final 7

    https://x.com/AMikeBloomType/status/2048034818743480708

    He included a screenshot of the parchment in his tweet. I wonder
    why they skipped over that part in the episode? The twist sounds a
    lot better knowing that Christian could have gained a decent
    advantage.


    I saw that when it aired because I paused the screen and read the
    whole thing.-a I think they left it out because it didn't turn out to >>>> be relevant and it was already becoming an overly complicated
    reward. My rule of thumb is always - if you have the read the
    parchment more than once to understand it, it's probably too
    complicated.-a I had to read this a couple of times.

    The note was a bit confusing the way it was worded. It would have
    been better if it had said you get to prevote for someone plus you
    get an extra vote that you can use anytime up to and including F7.

    Something I was trying to figure out was how long Christian actually
    had to solve the puzzle.-a They probably didn't show it in real time, >>>> but just watching the ropes go in the water, it still seemed that
    there was barely enough time to solve the puzzle if you were really
    going fast and knew where each piece went.-a I wonder if they had
    particularly fast solvers on the dream team the day they tested this.

    He had the exact same amount of time that Rachel had in S47.
    Christian said time wasn't a factor. He said he panicked. If you
    rewatch when Rachel did the challenge, she was very focused.
    Surprisingly, Christian wasn't focused at all. I also thought the
    puzzle was a lot easier than sorting the balls.


    As brilliant as Christian is, he definitely comes across as very
    emotional at times, whereas, as you correctly note, Rachel was laser-
    focused.

    I don't recall Christian being emotional at all in S37. Even when
    comforting Gabby I thought he was pretty level headed. I wonder how much
    of a role his son played in him being so emotional this time? I think he
    was definitely a factor which is why we saw the confessional of
    Christian talking about him in the first episode. I think Mike White
    also played a role. I got the impression that Christian wasn't thrilled
    that he was cast. He probably won't be happy either at the live reunion
    when Mike White gets an entire segment to announce who gets a cameo on
    the next season of White Lotus.


    I've already decided to skim through the inevitable Mike White Reunion segment, as I used to skip past the Sia segments and the Tyler Perry
    segments and any other of Jeff's celebrity groupie obsessions.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Sun Apr 26 15:45:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 4/26/2026 2:58 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 4:25 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 11:37 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 5:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 2:53 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 3:30 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Mike Bloom rewatched the last episode and discovered that if
    Christian had solved the puzzle he had another option concerning
    his vote. Tweet from Mike:

    Was rewatching this week's #Survivor50 and saw another wrinkle to >>>>>> the Jimmy Fallon twist

    If Christian had won, not only would he have 1 automatic vote
    against someone, he also could have banked his vote to use as an
    extra vote between now and Final 7

    https://x.com/AMikeBloomType/status/2048034818743480708

    He included a screenshot of the parchment in his tweet. I wonder
    why they skipped over that part in the episode? The twist sounds a >>>>>> lot better knowing that Christian could have gained a decent
    advantage.


    I saw that when it aired because I paused the screen and read the
    whole thing.-a I think they left it out because it didn't turn out
    to be relevant and it was already becoming an overly complicated
    reward. My rule of thumb is always - if you have the read the
    parchment more than once to understand it, it's probably too
    complicated.-a I had to read this a couple of times.

    The note was a bit confusing the way it was worded. It would have
    been better if it had said you get to prevote for someone plus you
    get an extra vote that you can use anytime up to and including F7.

    Something I was trying to figure out was how long Christian
    actually had to solve the puzzle.-a They probably didn't show it in >>>>> real time, but just watching the ropes go in the water, it still
    seemed that there was barely enough time to solve the puzzle if you >>>>> were really going fast and knew where each piece went.-a I wonder if >>>>> they had particularly fast solvers on the dream team the day they
    tested this.

    He had the exact same amount of time that Rachel had in S47.
    Christian said time wasn't a factor. He said he panicked. If you
    rewatch when Rachel did the challenge, she was very focused.
    Surprisingly, Christian wasn't focused at all. I also thought the
    puzzle was a lot easier than sorting the balls.


    As brilliant as Christian is, he definitely comes across as very
    emotional at times, whereas, as you correctly note, Rachel was laser-
    focused.

    I don't recall Christian being emotional at all in S37. Even when
    comforting Gabby I thought he was pretty level headed. I wonder how
    much of a role his son played in him being so emotional this time? I
    think he was definitely a factor which is why we saw the confessional
    of Christian talking about him in the first episode. I think Mike
    White also played a role. I got the impression that Christian wasn't
    thrilled that he was cast. He probably won't be happy either at the
    live reunion when Mike White gets an entire segment to announce who
    gets a cameo on the next season of White Lotus.


    I've already decided to skim through the inevitable Mike White Reunion segment, as I used to skip past the Sia segments and the Tyler Perry segments and any other of Jeff's celebrity groupie obsessions.

    I hope this live reunion is so bad that the people who whined nonstop
    for it never complain about the After Show again. If they had stuck with
    the After Show for S50 there would have been no Mike White segment nor
    any other celebrity segment.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Sun Apr 26 20:47:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 4/26/2026 5:45 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 2:58 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 4:25 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 11:37 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 5:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 2:53 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 3:30 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Mike Bloom rewatched the last episode and discovered that if
    Christian had solved the puzzle he had another option concerning >>>>>>> his vote. Tweet from Mike:

    Was rewatching this week's #Survivor50 and saw another wrinkle to >>>>>>> the Jimmy Fallon twist

    If Christian had won, not only would he have 1 automatic vote
    against someone, he also could have banked his vote to use as an >>>>>>> extra vote between now and Final 7

    https://x.com/AMikeBloomType/status/2048034818743480708

    He included a screenshot of the parchment in his tweet. I wonder >>>>>>> why they skipped over that part in the episode? The twist sounds >>>>>>> a lot better knowing that Christian could have gained a decent
    advantage.


    I saw that when it aired because I paused the screen and read the >>>>>> whole thing.-a I think they left it out because it didn't turn out >>>>>> to be relevant and it was already becoming an overly complicated
    reward. My rule of thumb is always - if you have the read the
    parchment more than once to understand it, it's probably too
    complicated.-a I had to read this a couple of times.

    The note was a bit confusing the way it was worded. It would have
    been better if it had said you get to prevote for someone plus you
    get an extra vote that you can use anytime up to and including F7.

    Something I was trying to figure out was how long Christian
    actually had to solve the puzzle.-a They probably didn't show it in >>>>>> real time, but just watching the ropes go in the water, it still
    seemed that there was barely enough time to solve the puzzle if
    you were really going fast and knew where each piece went.-a I
    wonder if they had particularly fast solvers on the dream team the >>>>>> day they tested this.

    He had the exact same amount of time that Rachel had in S47.
    Christian said time wasn't a factor. He said he panicked. If you
    rewatch when Rachel did the challenge, she was very focused.
    Surprisingly, Christian wasn't focused at all. I also thought the
    puzzle was a lot easier than sorting the balls.


    As brilliant as Christian is, he definitely comes across as very
    emotional at times, whereas, as you correctly note, Rachel was
    laser- focused.

    I don't recall Christian being emotional at all in S37. Even when
    comforting Gabby I thought he was pretty level headed. I wonder how
    much of a role his son played in him being so emotional this time? I
    think he was definitely a factor which is why we saw the confessional
    of Christian talking about him in the first episode. I think Mike
    White also played a role. I got the impression that Christian wasn't
    thrilled that he was cast. He probably won't be happy either at the
    live reunion when Mike White gets an entire segment to announce who
    gets a cameo on the next season of White Lotus.


    I've already decided to skim through the inevitable Mike White Reunion
    segment, as I used to skip past the Sia segments and the Tyler Perry
    segments and any other of Jeff's celebrity groupie obsessions.

    I hope this live reunion is so bad that the people who whined nonstop
    for it never complain about the After Show again. If they had stuck with
    the After Show for S50 there would have been no Mike White segment nor
    any other celebrity segment.


    The branding of this season as "in the hands of the fans" is so
    misleading and over-hyped. What have the fans really decided that's of
    any great significance? The colors of the buffs? What the immunity
    necklace looks like? Who cares about that? Whether to give them rice
    and supplies? Whether to have idols and advantages and tribe swaps?
    Again, these are like bright shiny objects you'd expect most casual
    viewers would want. The after show vs. live reunion is entirely
    post-season and has no real impact on anything crucial.

    The only really substantive decision is whether to do a forced final
    four fire-making challenge in place of the vote, and I haven't heard the result of that yet. Significantly, the fans had no say at all in what specific players appeared on the season, how many players and tribes to
    start the game, what specific advantages would be used, what challenges
    would be run, whether it's a final two or final three, etc. Indeed, it
    can be argued that two specific celebrity alleged fans, Jimmy Fallon and Billie Eilish, may end up having more influence on the season and its
    result than the 65,000 fans who supposedly voted in the overly hype survey.
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  • From Brian Smith@dcg_brian@hotmail.com to alt.tv.survivor on Sun Apr 26 19:11:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 4/26/2026 6:47 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 5:45 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 2:58 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 4:25 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 11:37 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 5:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 2:53 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 3:30 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Mike Bloom rewatched the last episode and discovered that if
    Christian had solved the puzzle he had another option concerning >>>>>>>> his vote. Tweet from Mike:

    Was rewatching this week's #Survivor50 and saw another wrinkle >>>>>>>> to the Jimmy Fallon twist

    If Christian had won, not only would he have 1 automatic vote >>>>>>>> against someone, he also could have banked his vote to use as an >>>>>>>> extra vote between now and Final 7

    https://x.com/AMikeBloomType/status/2048034818743480708

    He included a screenshot of the parchment in his tweet. I wonder >>>>>>>> why they skipped over that part in the episode? The twist sounds >>>>>>>> a lot better knowing that Christian could have gained a decent >>>>>>>> advantage.


    I saw that when it aired because I paused the screen and read the >>>>>>> whole thing.-a I think they left it out because it didn't turn out >>>>>>> to be relevant and it was already becoming an overly complicated >>>>>>> reward. My rule of thumb is always - if you have the read the
    parchment more than once to understand it, it's probably too
    complicated.-a I had to read this a couple of times.

    The note was a bit confusing the way it was worded. It would have >>>>>> been better if it had said you get to prevote for someone plus you >>>>>> get an extra vote that you can use anytime up to and including F7. >>>>>>
    Something I was trying to figure out was how long Christian
    actually had to solve the puzzle.-a They probably didn't show it >>>>>>> in real time, but just watching the ropes go in the water, it
    still seemed that there was barely enough time to solve the
    puzzle if you were really going fast and knew where each piece
    went.-a I wonder if they had particularly fast solvers on the
    dream team the day they tested this.

    He had the exact same amount of time that Rachel had in S47.
    Christian said time wasn't a factor. He said he panicked. If you
    rewatch when Rachel did the challenge, she was very focused.
    Surprisingly, Christian wasn't focused at all. I also thought the >>>>>> puzzle was a lot easier than sorting the balls.


    As brilliant as Christian is, he definitely comes across as very
    emotional at times, whereas, as you correctly note, Rachel was
    laser- focused.

    I don't recall Christian being emotional at all in S37. Even when
    comforting Gabby I thought he was pretty level headed. I wonder how
    much of a role his son played in him being so emotional this time? I
    think he was definitely a factor which is why we saw the
    confessional of Christian talking about him in the first episode. I
    think Mike White also played a role. I got the impression that
    Christian wasn't thrilled that he was cast. He probably won't be
    happy either at the live reunion when Mike White gets an entire
    segment to announce who gets a cameo on the next season of White Lotus. >>>>

    I've already decided to skim through the inevitable Mike White
    Reunion segment, as I used to skip past the Sia segments and the
    Tyler Perry segments and any other of Jeff's celebrity groupie
    obsessions.

    I hope this live reunion is so bad that the people who whined nonstop
    for it never complain about the After Show again. If they had stuck
    with the After Show for S50 there would have been no Mike White
    segment nor any other celebrity segment.


    The branding of this season as "in the hands of the fans" is so
    misleading and over-hyped.-a What have the fans really decided that's of
    any great significance?-a The colors of the buffs?-a What the immunity necklace looks like?-a Who cares about that?-a Whether to give them rice
    and supplies?-a-a Whether to have idols and advantages and tribe swaps? Again, these are like bright shiny objects you'd expect most casual
    viewers would want.-a The after show vs. live reunion is entirely post- season and has no real impact on anything crucial.

    It's crucial in terms of seeing how players really felt about how the
    season played out. You get the truth from the After Show. The live
    reunion is people rewriting history to make themselves look good.

    The only really substantive decision is whether to do a forced final
    four fire-making challenge in place of the vote, and I haven't heard the result of that yet.-a Significantly, the fans had no say at all in what specific players appeared on the season, how many players and tribes to start the game, what specific advantages would be used, what challenges would be run, whether it's a final two or final three, etc.-a Indeed, it
    can be argued that two specific celebrity alleged fans, Jimmy Fallon and Billie Eilish, may end up having more influence on the season and its
    result than the 65,000 fans who supposedly voted in the overly hype survey.

    I'm sure Jeff catered to the whiners and cut the F4 fire-making
    challenge in favor of a new twist which probably will also skip having a
    vote.

    You're probably right that the celebs will have more impact on the
    season than the fan votes. MrBeast will likely have the biggest impact.
    I saw a new promo yesterday for this week's episode which shows them
    doing the Survivor Auction. I wonder if MrBeast is part of that? His
    huge briefcase could be an auction item.
    --
    Brian
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  • From Rick@Rick@nospam.net to alt.tv.survivor on Sun Apr 26 22:41:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.survivor

    On 4/26/2026 9:11 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 6:47 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 5:45 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 2:58 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 4:25 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/26/2026 11:37 AM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 5:07 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 2:53 PM, Rick wrote:
    On 4/25/2026 3:30 PM, Brian Smith wrote:
    Mike Bloom rewatched the last episode and discovered that if >>>>>>>>> Christian had solved the puzzle he had another option
    concerning his vote. Tweet from Mike:

    Was rewatching this week's #Survivor50 and saw another wrinkle >>>>>>>>> to the Jimmy Fallon twist

    If Christian had won, not only would he have 1 automatic vote >>>>>>>>> against someone, he also could have banked his vote to use as >>>>>>>>> an extra vote between now and Final 7

    https://x.com/AMikeBloomType/status/2048034818743480708

    He included a screenshot of the parchment in his tweet. I
    wonder why they skipped over that part in the episode? The
    twist sounds a lot better knowing that Christian could have >>>>>>>>> gained a decent advantage.


    I saw that when it aired because I paused the screen and read >>>>>>>> the whole thing.-a I think they left it out because it didn't >>>>>>>> turn out to be relevant and it was already becoming an overly >>>>>>>> complicated reward. My rule of thumb is always - if you have the >>>>>>>> read the parchment more than once to understand it, it's
    probably too complicated.-a I had to read this a couple of times. >>>>>>>
    The note was a bit confusing the way it was worded. It would have >>>>>>> been better if it had said you get to prevote for someone plus
    you get an extra vote that you can use anytime up to and
    including F7.

    Something I was trying to figure out was how long Christian
    actually had to solve the puzzle.-a They probably didn't show it >>>>>>>> in real time, but just watching the ropes go in the water, it >>>>>>>> still seemed that there was barely enough time to solve the
    puzzle if you were really going fast and knew where each piece >>>>>>>> went.-a I wonder if they had particularly fast solvers on the >>>>>>>> dream team the day they tested this.

    He had the exact same amount of time that Rachel had in S47.
    Christian said time wasn't a factor. He said he panicked. If you >>>>>>> rewatch when Rachel did the challenge, she was very focused.
    Surprisingly, Christian wasn't focused at all. I also thought the >>>>>>> puzzle was a lot easier than sorting the balls.


    As brilliant as Christian is, he definitely comes across as very
    emotional at times, whereas, as you correctly note, Rachel was
    laser- focused.

    I don't recall Christian being emotional at all in S37. Even when
    comforting Gabby I thought he was pretty level headed. I wonder how >>>>> much of a role his son played in him being so emotional this time?
    I think he was definitely a factor which is why we saw the
    confessional of Christian talking about him in the first episode. I >>>>> think Mike White also played a role. I got the impression that
    Christian wasn't thrilled that he was cast. He probably won't be
    happy either at the live reunion when Mike White gets an entire
    segment to announce who gets a cameo on the next season of White
    Lotus.


    I've already decided to skim through the inevitable Mike White
    Reunion segment, as I used to skip past the Sia segments and the
    Tyler Perry segments and any other of Jeff's celebrity groupie
    obsessions.

    I hope this live reunion is so bad that the people who whined nonstop
    for it never complain about the After Show again. If they had stuck
    with the After Show for S50 there would have been no Mike White
    segment nor any other celebrity segment.


    The branding of this season as "in the hands of the fans" is so
    misleading and over-hyped.-a What have the fans really decided that's
    of any great significance?-a The colors of the buffs?-a What the
    immunity necklace looks like?-a Who cares about that?-a Whether to give
    them rice and supplies?-a-a Whether to have idols and advantages and
    tribe swaps? Again, these are like bright shiny objects you'd expect
    most casual viewers would want.-a The after show vs. live reunion is
    entirely post- season and has no real impact on anything crucial.

    It's crucial in terms of seeing how players really felt about how the
    season played out. You get the truth from the After Show. The live
    reunion is people rewriting history to make themselves look good.

    The only really substantive decision is whether to do a forced final
    four fire-making challenge in place of the vote, and I haven't heard
    the result of that yet.-a Significantly, the fans had no say at all in
    what specific players appeared on the season, how many players and
    tribes to start the game, what specific advantages would be used, what
    challenges would be run, whether it's a final two or final three,
    etc.-a Indeed, it can be argued that two specific celebrity alleged
    fans, Jimmy Fallon and Billie Eilish, may end up having more influence
    on the season and its result than the 65,000 fans who supposedly voted
    in the overly hype survey.

    I'm sure Jeff catered to the whiners and cut the F4 fire-making
    challenge in favor of a new twist which probably will also skip having a vote.

    You're probably right that the celebs will have more impact on the
    season than the fan votes. MrBeast will likely have the biggest impact.
    I saw a new promo yesterday for this week's episode which shows them
    doing the Survivor Auction. I wonder if MrBeast is part of that? His
    huge briefcase could be an auction item.


    Without looking at any spoilers, i keep thinking MrBeast is somehow
    going to attempt to bribe a certain number of players to take a payout
    to leave the game since they still have too many players for this point
    in the season. They did something like that on the second season of the
    US mole where a player won an advantage and took a $50,000 payment offer
    to leave the show. But that was just one player and they immediately compensated by not having an elimination that night.

    The problem with multiple potential buyout offers on Survivor is how can
    they possibly get the number right? For example, lets say the show has
    ten players left but by this point in the season they usually have only
    eight. So they need two players to take a buyout but how do they rig it
    to ensure that exactly two players take the bait? The only way I can
    see if to have MrBeast actually offer a million to the first two players
    who take the offer since that's the one amount everyone would be sure to
    go after. But would they actually do that?
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