• Why do the Klingons have an afterlife but not humans in Star Trek?

    From mummycullen@mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) to alt.tv.star-trek.tos on Wed Jun 12 16:06:48 2024
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    Why do the Klingons have an afterlife but not humans in Star Trek?

    ItAs never been explicitly and authoritatively stated that humans do
    not have an afterlife.

    Picard was clinically dead and until a few seconds after this frame,
    it wasnAt clear who or what he was about to meet.

    The writers of the show, and as a result the characters and society
    within it have not stated ohumans do not have any existence after
    deatho. Rather what is implied is that humans, much like Klingons,
    Bajorans and others may hold personal, religious or cultural beliefs
    as to what happens to an individual after they die (be it something
    specific, something unknown, or nothing at all).

    Interestingly, the species that has the most clearly demonstrated
    examples of oexistence after deatho are the stoic, skeptic and logical
    Vulcans who have documented examples of the Katra of an individual
    persisting, transferring (to living individuals) and being preserved
    after the death of a Vulcan.

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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to alt.tv.star-trek.tos on Thu Jun 13 09:54:41 2024
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    On 2024-06-12 16:06:48 +0000, MummyChunk said:

    Why do the Klingons have an afterlife but not humans in Star Trek?

    ItAs never been explicitly and authoritatively stated that humans do
    not have an afterlife.

    Humans seem to have, thankfully, completely outgrown the silliness of
    religion by Star Trek's time. Similarly Vulcans have no belief in
    religion or an afterlife. That's why so many, including Sisko, didn't
    believe in the Bajoran Phrophets in Deep Space Nine (the mumbo-jumbo
    nonsense is also one reason why that show is one of the less popular
    Star Trek shows).

    The Klingons are based on historical Asian cultures like the Mongols
    mixed with Viking / Norse. Both have strong beliefs in an battle,
    honour, and a glorious afterlife.



    Picard was clinically dead and until a few seconds after this frame,
    it wasnAt clear who or what he was about to meet.

    The writers of the show, and as a result the characters and society
    within it have not stated ohumans do not have any existence after
    deatho. Rather what is implied is that humans, much like Klingons,
    Bajorans and others may hold personal, religious or cultural beliefs
    as to what happens to an individual after they die (be it something
    specific, something unknown, or nothing at all).

    Interestingly, the species that has the most clearly demonstrated
    examples of oexistence after deatho are the stoic, skeptic and logical Vulcans who have documented examples of the Katra of an individual persisting, transferring (to living individuals) and being preserved
    after the death of a Vulcan.

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  • From Wouter Valentijn@liam@valentijn.nu to alt.tv.star-trek.tos on Sun Jul 14 09:27:44 2024
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    Op 12-6-2024 om 23:54 schreef Your Name:
    On 2024-06-12 16:06:48 +0000, MummyChunk said:

    Why do the Klingons have an afterlife but not humans in Star Trek?

    ItrCOs never been explicitly and authoritatively stated that humans do
    not have an afterlife.

    I think it was stated that there is a whole range of belief systems on
    Earth.
    Like we have on Earth right now.
    From multiple gods to absolutely none at all.



    Humans seem to have, thankfully, completely outgrown the silliness of religion by Star Trek's time. Similarly Vulcans have no belief in
    religion or an afterlife. That's why so many, including Sisko, didn't believe in the Bajoran Phrophets in Deep Space Nine (the mumbo-jumbo nonsense is also one reason why that show is one of the less popular
    Star Trek shows).

    The Klingons are based on historical Asian cultures like the Mongols
    mixed with Viking / Norse. Both have strong beliefs in an battle,
    honour, and a glorious afterlife.



    A matter of perspective. Anything sufficiently advanced enough is 'like magic', hence the Wormhole Aliens being seen as the divine Prophets by
    the Bajorans and add to that the funny way they exist out of the regular
    time stream.

    I consider DS9 the best of Trek, right after TOS, which will always be
    on top. And after that TNG> > ENT season 4 > VOY > ENT the first 3 seasons.
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    Wouter Valentijn

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