• OT REPUBLICAN PARTY OF PENNSYLVANIA v. DEGRAFFENREID

    From the...@bigmailbox.net@theget@bigmailbox.net to alt.tv.law-and-order on Tue Feb 23 11:25:50 2021
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    It seems that there isn't going to be a decision based on the merits. Dismissed as being moot.
    That really is some fine boot strapping. Who set the date for this case? Thomas dissented.
    "One wonders what this Court waits for. We failed to settle this dispute before the election, and thus provide clear rules. Now we again fail to provide clear rules for future elections. The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling. By doing nothing, we invite further confusion and erosion of voter confidence. Our fellow citizens deserve better and expect more of us."
    I wonder what will happen when voters have no faith in elections and no faith in the courts to resolve disputes.
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  • From jack@johnrstobo@gmail.com to alt.tv.law-and-order on Sat Feb 27 09:06:34 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.law-and-order

    On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:25:51 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    It seems that there isn't going to be a decision based on the merits. Dismissed as being moot.

    That really is some fine boot strapping. Who set the date for this case?

    Thomas dissented.

    "One wonders what this Court waits for. We failed to settle this dispute before the election, and thus provide clear rules. Now we again fail to provide clear rules for future elections. The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling. By doing nothing, we invite further confusion and erosion of voter confidence. Our fellow citizens deserve better and expect more of us."

    I wonder what will happen when voters have no faith in elections and no faith in the courts to resolve disputes.
    That's what, 62 cases resolved in favor of the fair 2020 elections? In cases of extreme cognitive dissonance, I guess you could have of hundreds of cases go against and you'll continue to complain.
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  • From the...@bigmailbox.net@theget@bigmailbox.net to alt.tv.law-and-order on Wed Mar 3 05:45:43 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.law-and-order

    On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 12:06:36 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:25:51 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    It seems that there isn't going to be a decision based on the merits. Dismissed as being moot.

    That really is some fine boot strapping. Who set the date for this case?

    Thomas dissented.

    "One wonders what this Court waits for. We failed to settle this dispute before the election, and thus provide clear rules. Now we again fail to provide clear rules for future elections. The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling. By doing nothing, we invite further confusion and erosion of voter confidence. Our fellow citizens deserve better and expect more of us."

    I wonder what will happen when voters have no faith in elections and no faith in the courts to resolve disputes.
    That's what, 62 cases resolved in favor of the fair 2020 elections? In cases of extreme cognitive dissonance, I guess you could have of hundreds of cases go against and you'll continue to complain.
    Were any of those cases decided on the merits? Does it matter how many cases there are if none were decided on the merits? Is it just me complaining? It seems at least one SCOTUS Justice thinks this was a bad idea too. Fair elections? I think you meant Fortified elections. Please explain what you meant by cognitive dissonance in this particular case.
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  • From jack@johnrstobo@gmail.com to alt.tv.law-and-order on Thu Mar 4 08:05:32 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.law-and-order

    On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:45:44 AM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 12:06:36 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:25:51 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    It seems that there isn't going to be a decision based on the merits. Dismissed as being moot.

    That really is some fine boot strapping. Who set the date for this case?

    Thomas dissented.

    "One wonders what this Court waits for. We failed to settle this dispute before the election, and thus provide clear rules. Now we again fail to provide clear rules for future elections. The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling. By doing nothing, we invite further confusion and erosion of voter confidence. Our fellow citizens deserve better and expect more of us."

    I wonder what will happen when voters have no faith in elections and no faith in the courts to resolve disputes.
    That's what, 62 cases resolved in favor of the fair 2020 elections? In cases of extreme cognitive dissonance, I guess you could have of hundreds of cases go against and you'll continue to complain.
    Were any of those cases decided on the merits? Does it matter how many cases there are if none were decided on the merits? Is it just me complaining? It seems at least one SCOTUS Justice thinks this was a bad idea too. Fair elections? I think you meant Fortified elections. Please explain what you meant by cognitive dissonance in this particular case.
    If they had any merit, the cases would have been heard. Refusing to believe that your side can be ruled against 62 times and you keep on believing the fault is not your own; that's cognitive dissonance.
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  • From the...@bigmailbox.net@theget@bigmailbox.net to alt.tv.law-and-order on Tue Mar 9 16:28:43 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.law-and-order

    On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:05:33 AM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:45:44 AM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 12:06:36 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:25:51 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    It seems that there isn't going to be a decision based on the merits. Dismissed as being moot.

    That really is some fine boot strapping. Who set the date for this case?

    Thomas dissented.

    "One wonders what this Court waits for. We failed to settle this dispute before the election, and thus provide clear rules. Now we again fail to provide clear rules for future elections. The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling. By doing nothing, we invite further confusion and erosion of voter confidence. Our fellow citizens deserve better and expect more of us."

    I wonder what will happen when voters have no faith in elections and no faith in the courts to resolve disputes.
    That's what, 62 cases resolved in favor of the fair 2020 elections? In cases of extreme cognitive dissonance, I guess you could have of hundreds of cases go against and you'll continue to complain.
    Were any of those cases decided on the merits? Does it matter how many cases there are if none were decided on the merits? Is it just me complaining? It seems at least one SCOTUS Justice thinks this was a bad idea too. Fair elections? I think you meant Fortified elections. Please explain what you meant by cognitive dissonance in this particular case.
    If they had any merit, the cases would have been heard. Refusing to believe that your side can be ruled against 62 times and you keep on believing the fault is not your own; that's cognitive dissonance.
    How can you tell if the cases have merit if none of the cases have been tried on the merits? Bootstrappy? I've heard it's now 63 times although I haven't verified it and I suspect dismissed for laches. Can you please point out if any of the cases have been tried on the merits?
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  • From jack@johnrstobo@gmail.com to alt.tv.law-and-order on Thu Mar 11 10:00:47 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.law-and-order

    On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:28:44 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:05:33 AM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:45:44 AM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 12:06:36 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:25:51 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    It seems that there isn't going to be a decision based on the merits. Dismissed as being moot.

    That really is some fine boot strapping. Who set the date for this case?

    Thomas dissented.

    "One wonders what this Court waits for. We failed to settle this dispute before the election, and thus provide clear rules. Now we again fail to provide clear rules for future elections. The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling. By doing nothing, we invite further confusion and erosion of voter confidence. Our fellow citizens deserve better and expect more of us."

    I wonder what will happen when voters have no faith in elections and no faith in the courts to resolve disputes.
    That's what, 62 cases resolved in favor of the fair 2020 elections? In cases of extreme cognitive dissonance, I guess you could have of hundreds of cases go against and you'll continue to complain.
    Were any of those cases decided on the merits? Does it matter how many cases there are if none were decided on the merits? Is it just me complaining? It seems at least one SCOTUS Justice thinks this was a bad idea too. Fair elections? I think you meant Fortified elections. Please explain what you meant by cognitive dissonance in this particular case.
    If they had any merit, the cases would have been heard. Refusing to believe that your side can be ruled against 62 times and you keep on believing the fault is not your own; that's cognitive dissonance.
    How can you tell if the cases have merit if none of the cases have been tried on the merits? Bootstrappy? I've heard it's now 63 times although I haven't verified it and I suspect dismissed for laches. Can you please point out if any of the cases have been tried on the merits?
    Again, what's your point here? How can they be tried on the basis of their "merits" when the courts say they have no merits.
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  • From the...@bigmailbox.net@theget@bigmailbox.net to alt.tv.law-and-order on Tue Mar 16 20:43:14 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.law-and-order

    On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:00:48 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:28:44 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:05:33 AM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:45:44 AM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 12:06:36 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:25:51 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    It seems that there isn't going to be a decision based on the merits. Dismissed as being moot.

    That really is some fine boot strapping. Who set the date for this case?

    Thomas dissented.

    "One wonders what this Court waits for. We failed to settle this dispute before the election, and thus provide clear rules. Now we again fail to provide clear rules for future elections. The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling. By doing nothing, we invite further confusion and erosion of voter confidence. Our fellow citizens deserve better and expect more of us."

    I wonder what will happen when voters have no faith in elections and no faith in the courts to resolve disputes.
    That's what, 62 cases resolved in favor of the fair 2020 elections? In cases of extreme cognitive dissonance, I guess you could have of hundreds of cases go against and you'll continue to complain.
    Were any of those cases decided on the merits? Does it matter how many cases there are if none were decided on the merits? Is it just me complaining? It seems at least one SCOTUS Justice thinks this was a bad idea too. Fair elections? I think you meant Fortified elections. Please explain what you meant by cognitive dissonance in this particular case.
    If they had any merit, the cases would have been heard. Refusing to believe that your side can be ruled against 62 times and you keep on believing the fault is not your own; that's cognitive dissonance.
    How can you tell if the cases have merit if none of the cases have been tried on the merits? Bootstrappy? I've heard it's now 63 times although I haven't verified it and I suspect dismissed for laches. Can you please point out if any of the cases have been tried on the merits?
    Again, what's your point here? How can they be tried on the basis of their "merits" when the courts say they have no merits.
    What court said that the case had no merits? AFAIK they were all dismissed for things like laches.
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  • From jack@johnrstobo@gmail.com to alt.tv.law-and-order on Wed Mar 17 13:48:22 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.law-and-order

    On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:43:15 PM UTC-4, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:00:48 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:28:44 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:05:33 AM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:45:44 AM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 12:06:36 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:25:51 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    It seems that there isn't going to be a decision based on the merits. Dismissed as being moot.

    That really is some fine boot strapping. Who set the date for this case?

    Thomas dissented.

    "One wonders what this Court waits for. We failed to settle this dispute before the election, and thus provide clear rules. Now we again fail to provide clear rules for future elections. The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling. By doing nothing, we invite further confusion and erosion of voter confidence. Our fellow citizens deserve better and expect more of us."

    I wonder what will happen when voters have no faith in elections and no faith in the courts to resolve disputes.
    That's what, 62 cases resolved in favor of the fair 2020 elections? In cases of extreme cognitive dissonance, I guess you could have of hundreds of cases go against and you'll continue to complain.
    Were any of those cases decided on the merits? Does it matter how many cases there are if none were decided on the merits? Is it just me complaining? It seems at least one SCOTUS Justice thinks this was a bad idea too. Fair elections? I think you meant Fortified elections. Please explain what you meant by cognitive dissonance in this particular case.
    If they had any merit, the cases would have been heard. Refusing to believe that your side can be ruled against 62 times and you keep on believing the fault is not your own; that's cognitive dissonance.
    How can you tell if the cases have merit if none of the cases have been tried on the merits? Bootstrappy? I've heard it's now 63 times although I haven't verified it and I suspect dismissed for laches. Can you please point out if any of the cases have been tried on the merits?
    Again, what's your point here? How can they be tried on the basis of their "merits" when the courts say they have no merits.
    What court said that the case had no merits? AFAIK they were all dismissed for things like laches.
    The cases were all submitted timely and shown to be unworthy. If 63 legal teams all committed laches, that's pretty bad lawyering.
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  • From the...@bigmailbox.net@theget@bigmailbox.net to alt.tv.law-and-order on Sun Mar 28 13:26:15 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.law-and-order

    On Wednesday, March 17, 2021 at 4:48:23 PM UTC-4, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:43:15 PM UTC-4, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:00:48 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:28:44 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:05:33 AM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:45:44 AM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 12:06:36 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:25:51 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    It seems that there isn't going to be a decision based on the merits. Dismissed as being moot.

    That really is some fine boot strapping. Who set the date for this case?

    Thomas dissented.

    "One wonders what this Court waits for. We failed to settle this dispute before the election, and thus provide clear rules. Now we again fail to provide clear rules for future elections. The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling. By doing nothing, we invite further confusion and erosion of voter confidence. Our fellow citizens deserve better and expect more of us."

    I wonder what will happen when voters have no faith in elections and no faith in the courts to resolve disputes.
    That's what, 62 cases resolved in favor of the fair 2020 elections? In cases of extreme cognitive dissonance, I guess you could have of hundreds of cases go against and you'll continue to complain.
    Were any of those cases decided on the merits? Does it matter how many cases there are if none were decided on the merits? Is it just me complaining? It seems at least one SCOTUS Justice thinks this was a bad idea too. Fair elections? I think you meant Fortified elections. Please explain what you meant by cognitive dissonance in this particular case.
    If they had any merit, the cases would have been heard. Refusing to believe that your side can be ruled against 62 times and you keep on believing the fault is not your own; that's cognitive dissonance.
    How can you tell if the cases have merit if none of the cases have been tried on the merits? Bootstrappy? I've heard it's now 63 times although I haven't verified it and I suspect dismissed for laches. Can you please point out if any of the cases have been tried on the merits?
    Again, what's your point here? How can they be tried on the basis of their "merits" when the courts say they have no merits.
    What court said that the case had no merits? AFAIK they were all dismissed for things like laches.
    The cases were all submitted timely and shown to be unworthy. If 63 legal teams all committed laches, that's pretty bad lawyering.
    Please site which particular case was shown to be unworthy?
    I said "things like" not that all the cases were dismissed for laches.
    Which of the cases was tried on the merits?
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  • From jack@johnrstobo@gmail.com to alt.tv.law-and-order on Thu Apr 1 08:44:46 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.law-and-order

    On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 4:26:16 PM UTC-4, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 17, 2021 at 4:48:23 PM UTC-4, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:43:15 PM UTC-4, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:00:48 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:28:44 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:05:33 AM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:45:44 AM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 12:06:36 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:25:51 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    It seems that there isn't going to be a decision based on the merits. Dismissed as being moot.

    That really is some fine boot strapping. Who set the date for this case?

    Thomas dissented.

    "One wonders what this Court waits for. We failed to settle this dispute before the election, and thus provide clear rules. Now we again fail to provide clear rules for future elections. The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling. By doing nothing, we invite further confusion and erosion of voter confidence. Our fellow citizens deserve better and expect more of us."

    I wonder what will happen when voters have no faith in elections and no faith in the courts to resolve disputes.
    That's what, 62 cases resolved in favor of the fair 2020 elections? In cases of extreme cognitive dissonance, I guess you could have of hundreds of cases go against and you'll continue to complain.
    Were any of those cases decided on the merits? Does it matter how many cases there are if none were decided on the merits? Is it just me complaining? It seems at least one SCOTUS Justice thinks this was a bad idea too. Fair elections? I think you meant Fortified elections. Please explain what you meant by cognitive dissonance in this particular case.
    If they had any merit, the cases would have been heard. Refusing to believe that your side can be ruled against 62 times and you keep on believing the fault is not your own; that's cognitive dissonance.
    How can you tell if the cases have merit if none of the cases have been tried on the merits? Bootstrappy? I've heard it's now 63 times although I haven't verified it and I suspect dismissed for laches. Can you please point out if any of the cases have been tried on the merits?
    Again, what's your point here? How can they be tried on the basis of their "merits" when the courts say they have no merits.
    What court said that the case had no merits? AFAIK they were all dismissed for things like laches.
    The cases were all submitted timely and shown to be unworthy. If 63 legal teams all committed laches, that's pretty bad lawyering.
    Please site which particular case was shown to be unworthy?
    I said "things like" not that all the cases were dismissed for laches.
    Which of the cases was tried on the merits?
    None, since no merits were shown to the various courts.
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  • From the...@bigmailbox.net@theget@bigmailbox.net to alt.tv.law-and-order on Sat Apr 10 05:24:40 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.law-and-order

    On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 11:44:47 AM UTC-4, jack wrote:
    On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 4:26:16 PM UTC-4, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 17, 2021 at 4:48:23 PM UTC-4, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:43:15 PM UTC-4, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 1:00:48 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:28:44 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:05:33 AM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:45:44 AM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 12:06:36 PM UTC-5, jack wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:25:51 PM UTC-5, the...@bigmailbox.net wrote:
    It seems that there isn't going to be a decision based on the merits. Dismissed as being moot.

    That really is some fine boot strapping. Who set the date for this case?

    Thomas dissented.

    "One wonders what this Court waits for. We failed to settle this dispute before the election, and thus provide clear rules. Now we again fail to provide clear rules for future elections. The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling. By doing nothing, we invite further confusion and erosion of voter confidence. Our fellow citizens deserve better and expect more of us."

    I wonder what will happen when voters have no faith in elections and no faith in the courts to resolve disputes.
    That's what, 62 cases resolved in favor of the fair 2020 elections? In cases of extreme cognitive dissonance, I guess you could have of hundreds of cases go against and you'll continue to complain.
    Were any of those cases decided on the merits? Does it matter how many cases there are if none were decided on the merits? Is it just me complaining? It seems at least one SCOTUS Justice thinks this was a bad idea too. Fair elections? I think you meant Fortified elections. Please explain what you meant by cognitive dissonance in this particular case.
    If they had any merit, the cases would have been heard. Refusing to believe that your side can be ruled against 62 times and you keep on believing the fault is not your own; that's cognitive dissonance.
    How can you tell if the cases have merit if none of the cases have been tried on the merits? Bootstrappy? I've heard it's now 63 times although I haven't verified it and I suspect dismissed for laches. Can you please point out if any of the cases have been tried on the merits?
    Again, what's your point here? How can they be tried on the basis of their "merits" when the courts say they have no merits.
    What court said that the case had no merits? AFAIK they were all dismissed for things like laches.
    The cases were all submitted timely and shown to be unworthy. If 63 legal teams all committed laches, that's pretty bad lawyering.
    Please site which particular case was shown to be unworthy?
    I said "things like" not that all the cases were dismissed for laches. Which of the cases was tried on the merits?
    None, since no merits were shown to the various courts.
    Right, because the cases were dismissed before they got to the merits.
    How do you think this is going to work out long term? What if the loyal opposition decides to fortify the next election?
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