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Haven't seen past the Wednesday episode. Just trying to work through
where this Brennan stuff is going. It's confusing.

They seem to want to draw a straight line through points that exist on
separate planes.

First point: Drew plants Brennan's wallet in Nina's car.

Second point: Baines obtains a warrant to search the property of someone
he suspects of attempted murder.

Third point: Baines arrests Nina for "disappearing" Brennan.

Since Anna is the only person Baines would have reason to suspect of
attempted murder, the warrant he requested was probably for Anna's
apartment, and would have had nothing to do with Nina and Brennan.

Baines had no probable cause to search Nina's car, and could not have
obtained a warrant to do so. If he found Brennan's wallet in Nina's car,
he had not come by it through legal means. If he has the wallet and came
by it illegally, then he's SOL if he thinks he's going to prosecute
Nina.

Nina's arrest appears to have been based entirely on Carly's gossip
about Nina's threat to destroy Brennan because of Willow, and on Joss's
gossip about Nina's jealously of her mother. Gossip is evidence of
nothing. If Baines believes, for whatever reason, that Nina knows
something about Brennan's whereabouts, then he can request that she
visit his office to answer questions, but he has zero legal basis to
have been granted a warrant to search her car, or to have arrested her.
So, oops.

And oops again, because the WSB was created to be an Interpol-type of organization. Interpol does not have the authority to make arrests, so
AFAIC, neither should the WSB. Baines should have handed whatever
"evidence" he might have of Nina's involvement in Brennan's
disappearance over to the PCPD and let them sort it out.

And oops yet again. No one but the people responsible for Brennan's
death know that he is dead. There's no evidence of death. Yet Baines
seems to think that Nina is responsible for Brennan's disappearance.
Does he believe she kidnapped him and is holding him prisoner? Or does
he believe she killed him and got rid of the body? There's no evidence
that she has done either. There's no probable cause to have searched
Nina's car. If Baines broke into her car without a warrant and found the wallet, the wallet can't be entered into evidence at trial. Not that
there could be a trial without evidence of a crime. There's no evidence
that a crime to do with Brennan's disappearance has been committed by
Nina or anyone else.

Of course it's just a matter of time before Outback digs up Brennan's
remains, but even then, if Baines has his wallet, he came it through
illegal means, so there's nothing to tie Nina to Brennan's death. And of
course they're going to pretend that there is so that Ava is confronted
with confessing or keeping quiet and letting Nina take the rap. And of
course it's no mystery what Ava will do!
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Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> wrote:

Haven't seen past the Wednesday episode. Just trying to work through
where this Brennan stuff is going. It's confusing.

You will be even more perplexed when you see it play out. All your points remain unexplained, even through ThursdayrCOs episode.

They seem to want to draw a straight line through points that exist on separate planes.

First point: Drew plants Brennan's wallet in Nina's car.

Second point: Baines obtains a warrant to search the property of someone
he suspects of attempted murder.

Third point: Baines arrests Nina for "disappearing" Brennan.

Since Anna is the only person Baines would have reason to suspect of attempted murder, the warrant he requested was probably for Anna's
apartment, and would have had nothing to do with Nina and Brennan.

Joss provided a highly credible well supported account of AnnarCOs crime.
Why isnrCOt he arresting her? Or at least try to have her institutionalized

Baines had no probable cause to search Nina's car, and could not have obtained a warrant to do so. If he found Brennan's wallet in Nina's car,
he had not come by it through legal means. If he has the wallet and came
by it illegally, then he's SOL if he thinks he's going to prosecute
Nina.

I also got lost at that point. Especially since he initially said he was arresting her and then later said rCLyou are being heldrCY for suspicion of. Sounds like he has no idea what he is doing. By Thursday, it morphed into
an arrest for making a threat against a WSB agent.

The wallet as evidence is weak, anyway. She admitted they were
romantically involved. Not a stretch to suggest the wallet was dropped
because they were on a date, by accident or whatever. Unfortunately, she
did something on Thursday that wonrCOt help her.

Nina's arrest appears to have been based entirely on Carly's gossip
about Nina's threat to destroy Brennan because of Willow, and on Joss's gossip about Nina's jealously of her mother. Gossip is evidence of
nothing. If Baines believes, for whatever reason, that Nina knows
something about Brennan's whereabouts, then he can request that she
visit his office to answer questions, but he has zero legal basis to
have been granted a warrant to search her car, or to have arrested her.
So, oops.

And oops again, because the WSB was created to be an Interpol-type of organization. Interpol does not have the authority to make arrests, so
AFAIC, neither should the WSB. Baines should have handed whatever
"evidence" he might have of Nina's involvement in Brennan's
disappearance over to the PCPD and let them sort it out

I agree completely. Baines is EXTRADITING her. From where to where?



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marika wrote in <E93rS.118613$3vg8.48445@fx37.iad>:

Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> wrote:

Haven't seen past the Wednesday episode. Just trying to work through
where this Brennan stuff is going. It's confusing.

You will be even more perplexed when you see it play out. All your points remain unexplained, even through ThursdayAs episode.

I doubt they'll ever explain it. They seem to have done it all on
purpose, and don't think there is anything *to* explain.

They seem to want to draw a straight line through points that exist on
separate planes.

First point: Drew plants Brennan's wallet in Nina's car.

Second point: Baines obtains a warrant to search the property of someone
he suspects of attempted murder.

Third point: Baines arrests Nina for "disappearing" Brennan.

Since Anna is the only person Baines would have reason to suspect of
attempted murder, the warrant he requested was probably for Anna's
apartment, and would have had nothing to do with Nina and Brennan.

Joss provided a highly credible well supported account of AnnaAs crime.
Why isnAt he arresting her? Or at least try to have her institutionalized

He'll get around to Anna after he finishes exercising authority he
shouldn't have in a rational world, harassing Nina illegally and without
cause.

Baines had no probable cause to search Nina's car, and could not have
obtained a warrant to do so. If he found Brennan's wallet in Nina's car,
he had not come by it through legal means. If he has the wallet and came
by it illegally, then he's SOL if he thinks he's going to prosecute
Nina.

I also got lost at that point. Especially since he initially said he was arresting her and then later said oyou are being heldo for suspicion of. Sounds like he has no idea what he is doing. By Thursday, it morphed into
an arrest for making a threat against a WSB agent.

The wallet as evidence is weak, anyway. She admitted they were
romantically involved. Not a stretch to suggest the wallet was dropped because they were on a date, by accident or whatever. Unfortunately, she
did something on Thursday that wonAt help her.

She said Brennan had never been in her car. That's not an incriminating statement considering that Baines broke into and searched Nina's car
without a warrant, and anything he found in her car would be considered
"fruit of the poisonous tree" and inadmissible as evidence. All Baines
has on Nina is Carly's out of context, anecdotal account of Nina's
threat to Brennan and a wallet obtained during an illegal search. He has
no case. Not that he needs one in this bizarre version of reality.

Nina's arrest appears to have been based entirely on Carly's gossip
about Nina's threat to destroy Brennan because of Willow, and on Joss's
gossip about Nina's jealously of her mother. Gossip is evidence of
nothing. If Baines believes, for whatever reason, that Nina knows
something about Brennan's whereabouts, then he can request that she
visit his office to answer questions, but he has zero legal basis to
have been granted a warrant to search her car, or to have arrested her.
So, oops.

And oops again, because the WSB was created to be an Interpol-type of
organization. Interpol does not have the authority to make arrests, so
AFAIC, neither should the WSB. Baines should have handed whatever
"evidence" he might have of Nina's involvement in Brennan's
disappearance over to the PCPD and let them sort it out

I agree completely. Baines is EXTRADITING her. From where to where?

Yeah, *extraditing* her! Presumably from the US to who knows where.
Jakarta? The Black Hole of Calcutta? But extraditing? Wherever Bigshot
Baines plans to "extradite" Nina is not where he's alleging she
committed the crime he's accused her of, so if he takes her out of the
country against her will, he can be charged with abducting a US citizen.
And that's just for starters. He and his goons also made an illegal
arrest and assaulted Nina in the commission of it, they falsely
imprisoned her and held her hostage until she agreed to cooperate, and
when she failed to do so to their satisfaction, they conspired to commit transnational human trafficking. And those are just the charges he could
face in the US. No doubt he's in violation of several international laws
as well. And there Dante stood like a Good German, shrugging and
claiming his hands were tied. Baines would not be walking around free
for long if he pulled this crap IRL. I mean...for petessake!

Did the writers let their first graders at the word processors on bring
your kids to work day? They don't even try to make an effort to write
stories that conform even the tiniest bit to reality. In their version
of reality, PC's planet has a global overlord whose goons override laws
of sovereign nations to seize private citizens and do whatever they wish
to them in violation of their rights. No one can stop them, and everyone
is walking around on eggshells terrified of crossing them. Constitutions
and laws and courts and lawyers might just as well not exist in this
crazy place. I'd like to have the writers explain just what governing
body granted this goon squad supreme authority over everyone on the
planet. If they ever were try to come up with an explanation, it's sure
to be a real doozy. :(
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Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> wrote:

marika wrote in <E93rS.118613$3vg8.48445@fx37.iad>:

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I agree completely. Baines is EXTRADITING her. From where to where?

Yeah, *extraditing* her

Illogically! Extraditing her FROM New York TO New York

The correct term is extraordinary rendition.

But, can you imagine someone saying rCLi am extraordinarily renditioning yourCY.

He could have just said he was rCLdetainingrCY her for questioning.

Whatever word he used, way off the charts deprivation of due process.

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marika wrote in <rRgrS.73862$e54.10125@fx15.iad>:

Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> wrote:

marika wrote in <E93rS.118613$3vg8.48445@fx37.iad>:

Baines is EXTRADITING her. From where to where?

Yeah, *extraditing* her

Illogically! Extraditing her FROM New York TO New York

To Switzerland, as it turns out. Maybe she'll run into Schmathan there.

The correct term is extraordinary rendition.

Extradition is definitely incorrect. Baines didn't return Nina to the
place where the crime he accused her of was committed. He took her from
it.

Rendition is an umbrella term which means to surrender something or
someone from one legal authority to another. Extraordinary rendition
indicates rendition that is extrajudicial (ie, illegal).

Maybe it's splitting hairs to argue that it would also be incorrect to
call what Baines did extraordinary rendition. That's something a
government does, using an internal agency as its instrument. The WSB is
a stateless organization that autonomously seized a citizen of a country
and took her to another country against her will. Seems to me that's
just plain old abduction, pure and simple. Or kidnapping. That works
too.

But, can you imagine someone saying oi am extraordinarily renditioning
youo.

The correct phrasing would probably be something like, "I am ordering
your rendition to [wherever]." Qualifying the threat with
"extraordinary" would be admitting to a crime, as would saying, "I am abducting/kidnapping you to [wherever]." I guess he could have
threatened her with rendition. The word would sound scary to someone
like Nina who probably hasn't a clue what it means.

That said, Dante had the power and right to have gathered a phalanx of
cops to block those goons from taking Nina out of the station instead of standing there with his hands in his pockets looking like a simpleton
and claiming to be powerless. Instead, he allowed a stateless agency to
abduct a US citizen to a foreign country against her will and in
violation of her constitutional rights. And only after that, did he try
to mitigate the damage caused by his failure to do his duty by puffing
himself up and blustering about not handing Brennan's wallet over to the
WSB without a warrant. He seems to be too dim to understand that the
wallet had already served Baines's purpose, and that he could set fire
to the thing for all the WSB cared.
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On 9/19/2026 3:33 PM, Kaitlin wrote:

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The correct phrasing would probably be something like, "I am ordering
your rendition to [wherever]." Qualifying the threat with
"extraordinary" would be admitting to a crime, as would saying, "I am abducting/kidnapping you to [wherever]." I guess he could have
threatened her with rendition. The word would sound scary to someone
like Nina who probably hasn't a clue what it means.

That said, Dante had the power and right to have gathered a phalanx of
cops to block those goons from taking Nina out of the station instead of standing there with his hands in his pockets looking like a simpleton
and claiming to be powerless. Instead, he allowed a stateless agency to abduct a US citizen to a foreign country against her will and in
violation of her constitutional rights. And only after that, did he try
to mitigate the damage caused by his failure to do his duty by puffing himself up and blustering about not handing Brennan's wallet over to the
WSB without a warrant. He seems to be too dim to understand that the
wallet had already served Baines's purpose, and that he could set fire
to the thing for all the WSB cared.

I have been hoping for a scene where the (usually ineffective) PCPD
physically prevents WSB Agents from unconstitutionally abducting a US
citizen without any Due Process whatsoever. Instead, the PCPD always
acts like the WSB cannot be challenged.
In real life, the United States would never consent to granting a non-governmental agency such as the WSB the authority to conduct extra-judicial arrests of US Citizens. The US Government reserves that authority to itself in the real world.
The PCPD could probably only delay the WSB for a while, but it would
allow for a dramatic escape or additional evidence to come to light, exonerating the person accused by the WSB.

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