Danny has found out Rocco shot Cullum. He wants Rocco to turn himself in
for shooting Cullum, in order to exonerate Jason.
Lulu tells him she wonrCOt let that happen.
Knowing DannyrCOs temperament, he is liable to blow a gasket and reveal the info to the wrong people.
Minimally, it may throw a rCLspannerrCY into ZrCOs carefully orchestrated exoneration, and JossrCO play to get Jason and Val out of prison.
marika <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote:
Danny has found out Rocco shot Cullum. He wants Rocco to turn himself in
for shooting Cullum, in order to exonerate Jason.
Lulu tells him she wonrCOt let that happen.
Knowing DannyrCOs temperament, he is liable to blow a gasket and reveal the >> info to the wrong people.
Minimally, it may throw a rCLspannerrCY into ZrCOs carefully orchestrated
exoneration, and JossrCO play to get Jason and Val out of prison.
Well Danny did gorCato Brennan. Who knows how that plays out.
Cassius is alive. If anyone caught what Z said to Cassius, rCLcall merCa.rCY I
didnrCOt catch the word. Was it important?
Carly ran to a released Val and kisses him. In front of Lulu and Sonny. SonnyrCOs face! Lol
marika <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote:
Danny has found out Rocco shot Cullum. He wants Rocco to turn himself in
for shooting Cullum, in order to exonerate Jason.
Lulu tells him she wonAt let that happen.
Knowing DannyAs temperament, he is liable to blow a gasket and reveal the
info to the wrong people.
Minimally, it may throw a ospannero into ZAs carefully orchestrated
exoneration, and JossA play to get Jason and Val out of prison.
Well Danny did goato Brennan. Who knows how that plays out.
Carly ran to a released Val and kisses him. In front of Lulu and Sonny. SonnyAs face! Lol
marika wrote in <a_S2S.243599$0CK1.23949@fx47.iad>:
marika <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote:
Danny has found out Rocco shot Cullum. He wants Rocco to turn himself in >>> for shooting Cullum, in order to exonerate Jason.
Lulu tells him she won-At let that happen.
Knowing Danny-As temperament, he is liable to blow a gasket and reveal the >>> info to the wrong people.
Minimally, it may throw a -ospanner-o into Z-As carefully orchestrated
exoneration, and Joss-A play to get Jason and Val out of prison.
Well Danny did go-ato Brennan. Who knows how that plays out.
I'd like to know just how Danny, a teenage boy with an undeveloped
prefrontal cortex and the attention span of a gnat, was able to locate Brennan, who had been moved to another room under an alias?
<snip>
Carly ran to a released Val and kisses him. In front of Lulu and Sonny.
Sonny-As face! Lol
Not just Sonny's face, but also Lulu's and Charlotte's. You'd think they
were all watching Carly kiss a cockroach.
Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> wrote:
I'd like to know just how Danny, a teenage boy with an undeveloped
prefrontal cortex and the attention span of a gnat, was able to locate
Brennan, who had been moved to another room under an alias?
I wondered about that as well. I was going to dismiss it under the
heading: no one who works for the hospital understands privacy rights or HIPAA limits on disclosure of info.
didnrCOt catch the word. Was it important?
Unless I misheard him, I heard Z say "Call me Z."
SteveR <SteveR3333@aol.com> said:
[snipped]
didnrCOt catch the word. Was it important?
Unless I misheard him, I heard Z say "Call me Z."
I just got to that scene last night. Here's the dialog, according to the closed
captions (they often include errors, but they are accurate for what i heard in
this scene):
Z: Good morning, Agent Jacks.
J: You're...
Z: I am indeed.
J: You're the head of the WSB.
Z: Feel free to call me Z.
J: Okay. And what does Z stand for?
Z: It's my nom de guerre.
I stopped at that point so I'm still a week or more behind. I also found that I
called it right that Britt's Huntington's disease was a fiction, but without an
explanation for why she suffered symptoms. Was she given a "magic potion" as I
suspected, or did she imagine them into physical reality? Or will they just drop
the subject without even giving us an outlandish explanation?
I
called it right that Britt's Huntington's disease was a fiction, but without an
explanation for why she suffered symptoms. Was she given a "magic potion" as I
suspected, or did she imagine them into physical reality? Or will they just drop
the subject without even giving us an outlandish explanation?
am.nospam@cox.not.invalid wrote in <112tcln$21qc3$1@dont-email.me>:
<snip>
I
called it right that Britt's Huntington's disease was a fiction, but without an
explanation for why she suffered symptoms. Was she given a "magic potion" as I
suspected, or did she imagine them into physical reality? Or will they just drop
the subject without even giving us an outlandish explanation?
There was an outlandish explanation, and you got it--she imagined the symptoms into physical reality. As Britt put it during her jail cell meltdown, her symptoms were entirely psychosomatic. The problem with the somatic response explanation is that it was her symptoms that led her to
take the blood test for which she tested positive. She didn't take a
blood test out of the blue, test positive, then start imagining
symptoms. How could she have conjured up symptoms before she knew she
had a disease? So yeah, outlandish explanation. And really sloppy
scripting.
Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> wrote:
am.nospam@cox.not.invalid wrote in <112tcln$21qc3$1@dont-email.me>:
I
called it right that Britt's Huntington's disease was a fiction, but without an
explanation for why she suffered symptoms. Was she given a "magic potion" as I
suspected, or did she imagine them into physical reality? Or will they just drop
the subject without even giving us an outlandish explanation?
There was an outlandish explanation, and you got it--she imagined the
symptoms into physical reality. As Britt put it during her jail cell
meltdown, her symptoms were entirely psychosomatic. The problem with the
somatic response explanation is that it was her symptoms that led her to
take the blood test for which she tested positive. She didn't take a
blood test out of the blue, test positive, then start imagining
symptoms. How could she have conjured up symptoms before she knew she
had a disease? So yeah, outlandish explanation. And really sloppy
scripting.
Do you remember the symptom?
I vaguely recall a mild tremor.
That could have been almost anything. Low blood sugar, even.
Were there any other symptoms?
marika wrote in <4Ax4S.114868$dBE.98419@fx16.iad>:
Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> wrote:
am.nospam@cox.not.invalid wrote in <112tcln$21qc3$1@dont-email.me>:
I
called it right that Britt's Huntington's disease was a fiction, but without an
explanation for why she suffered symptoms. Was she given a "magic potion" as I
suspected, or did she imagine them into physical reality? Or will they just drop
the subject without even giving us an outlandish explanation?
There was an outlandish explanation, and you got it--she imagined the
symptoms into physical reality. As Britt put it during her jail cell
meltdown, her symptoms were entirely psychosomatic. The problem with the >>> somatic response explanation is that it was her symptoms that led her to >>> take the blood test for which she tested positive. She didn't take a
blood test out of the blue, test positive, then start imagining
symptoms. How could she have conjured up symptoms before she knew she
had a disease? So yeah, outlandish explanation. And really sloppy
scripting.
Do you remember the symptom?
I vaguely recall a mild tremor.
That could have been almost anything. Low blood sugar, even.
Right. Or too much caffeine. But she believed it was a disease symptom, because her brain conjured that symptom before she began taking Cullum's
and Sidwell's miracle injections, then afterwards, every time her "medication" had been delayed.
Were there any other symptoms?
The only symptom I saw her display was a hand tremor--both early on,
before she "died" and went to Croatia, and when Cullum or Sidwell had
delayed her "meds" after she returned to PC. I'm sure there are worse symptoms than a hand tremor as the disease progresses, but to my
knowledge, Britt never showed symptoms more advanced than that one.
Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> wrote:
marika wrote in <4Ax4S.114868$dBE.98419@fx16.iad>:
Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> wrote:
am.nospam@cox.not.invalid wrote in <112tcln$21qc3$1@dont-email.me>:
I
called it right that Britt's Huntington's disease was a fiction, but without an
explanation for why she suffered symptoms. Was she given a "magic potion" as I
suspected, or did she imagine them into physical reality? Or will they just drop
the subject without even giving us an outlandish explanation?
There was an outlandish explanation, and you got it--she imagined the
symptoms into physical reality. As Britt put it during her jail cell
meltdown, her symptoms were entirely psychosomatic. The problem with the >>>> somatic response explanation is that it was her symptoms that led her to >>>> take the blood test for which she tested positive. She didn't take a
blood test out of the blue, test positive, then start imagining
symptoms. How could she have conjured up symptoms before she knew she
had a disease? So yeah, outlandish explanation. And really sloppy
scripting.
Do you remember the symptom?
I vaguely recall a mild tremor.
That could have been almost anything. Low blood sugar, even.
Right. Or too much caffeine. But she believed it was a disease symptom,
because her brain conjured that symptom before she began taking Cullum's
and Sidwell's miracle injections, then afterwards, every time her
"medication" had been delayed.
Were there any other symptoms?
The only symptom I saw her display was a hand tremor--both early on,
before she "died" and went to Croatia, and when Cullum or Sidwell had
delayed her "meds" after she returned to PC. I'm sure there are worse
symptoms than a hand tremor as the disease progresses, but to my
knowledge, Britt never showed symptoms more advanced than that one.
You know what else is a bit suss?
It is so strange that Cullum was made aware she had taken the test in the first place.
marika wrote in <P4y4S.88706$F8N4.7169@fx01.iad>:
Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> wrote:
marika wrote in <4Ax4S.114868$dBE.98419@fx16.iad>:
Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> wrote:
am.nospam@cox.not.invalid wrote in <112tcln$21qc3$1@dont-email.me>:
without anI
called it right that Britt's Huntington's disease was a fiction, but
as Iexplanation for why she suffered symptoms. Was she given a "magic potion"
just dropsuspected, or did she imagine them into physical reality? Or will they
the subject without even giving us an outlandish explanation?
There was an outlandish explanation, and you got it--she imagined the >>>>> symptoms into physical reality. As Britt put it during her jail cell >>>>> meltdown, her symptoms were entirely psychosomatic. The problem with the >>>>> somatic response explanation is that it was her symptoms that led her to >>>>> take the blood test for which she tested positive. She didn't take a >>>>> blood test out of the blue, test positive, then start imagining
symptoms. How could she have conjured up symptoms before she knew she >>>>> had a disease? So yeah, outlandish explanation. And really sloppy
scripting.
Do you remember the symptom?
I vaguely recall a mild tremor.
That could have been almost anything. Low blood sugar, even.
Right. Or too much caffeine. But she believed it was a disease symptom,
because her brain conjured that symptom before she began taking Cullum's >>> and Sidwell's miracle injections, then afterwards, every time her
"medication" had been delayed.
Were there any other symptoms?
The only symptom I saw her display was a hand tremor--both early on,
before she "died" and went to Croatia, and when Cullum or Sidwell had
delayed her "meds" after she returned to PC. I'm sure there are worse
symptoms than a hand tremor as the disease progresses, but to my
knowledge, Britt never showed symptoms more advanced than that one.
You know what else is a bit suss?
It is so strange that Cullum was made aware she had taken the test in the
first place.
At the ending, the story starts to loop back on itself into a death
spiral. The end explanation was that Cullum had faked a blood test that >showed Britt that she had Huntington's. Then, believing she had
Huntington's because the test said so, her mind came up with the
symptoms psychosomatically. But the way the story was written
originally, Britt started having this hand tremor thing, became
concerned, and had blood labs done to check what, if anything, was
wrong.
IOW, to put it simply, the way it was written originally, first came the >symptoms, then the blood test. But the way they explained it at the end, >first came the blood test, then the symptoms.
The question isn't how Cullum could have been made aware that she had
taken the blood test, but how Cullum could have faked a test result to >explain symptoms that Britt didn't have until her mind conjured them
after seeing the test result. Makes you dizzy, doesn't it? Bad, bad, >terrible, sloppy plotting.
She had tremors, a least twice, that seriously troubled her. Even a non-doctor
know what is normal for their body and what's different. She would be hyper alert for Huntington's symptoms due to her family history so she took a test. I totally agree at the ridiculousness of Cullum knowing that she took a test *in
the small time frame" between taking it and geting the results so he could alter
the results.
Although as far as I recall, she didn't show anything other than fatigue, she talked of her deteriorating condition while they were in Croatia. I suppose they
either ignored that now, or include that in the psychosomatic explanation. And
since she was under the WSB's control then, they could have been drugging her to
create symptoms.
I didn't expect better from them, but still, it's frustrating that they continue
to wind up stories in such full-of-holes ways, leaving tons of loose ends. I get
implausible (3-month med school) - it's a soap. But their attention span seems
to be too short to form (and see through) a coherent plot.
She had tremors, a least twice, that seriously troubled her. Even a non-doctor
know what is normal for their body and what's different. She would be hyper alert for Huntington's symptoms due to her family history so she took a test. I totally agree at the ridiculousness of Cullum knowing that she took a test *in
the small time frame" between taking it and geting the results so he could alter
the results.
Although as far as I recall, she didn't show anything other than fatigue, she talked of her deteriorating condition while they were in Croatia. I suppose they
either ignored that now, or include that in the psychosomatic explanation. And
since she was under the WSB's control then, they could have been drugging her to
create symptoms.
I didn't expect better from them, but still, it's frustrating that they continue
to wind up stories in such full-of-holes ways, leaving tons of loose ends. I get
implausible (3-month med school) - it's a soap. But their attention span seems
to be too short to form (and see through) a coherent plot.
Once upon a time, story arcs were gamed out to the end before they were >scripted and filmed. Now, it's as if they come up something they think
sounds cool, start scripting and filming before they have any idea where
it's going, then try to tie everything together at the end long after
the plot went off the rails.
Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> said:
Once upon a time, story arcs were gamed out to the end before they were
scripted and filmed. Now, it's as if they come up something they think
sounds cool, start scripting and filming before they have any idea where
it's going, then try to tie everything together at the end long after
the plot went off the rails.
You can tell. A prime example is the first season of Beyond the Gates. They had
it all planned out in detail. Not just the stories but they had (still have) a
lot of those "nothing happening" people just sitting and talking to each other
about their feelings and how to respond to situations. Old school soap. I loved
it.
Now that they are in the second season and having to continue developing
and writing stories as they film, there's a bit less cohesion. It's still a lot
better than current GH. It's funny that a lot of it is hospital-based. I hope
they can stick with the "small" focus on human stories, and make the time to plan the stories properly.
<am.nospam@cox.not.invalid> wrote:
Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> said:had
Once upon a time, story arcs were gamed out to the end before they were
scripted and filmed. Now, it's as if they come up something they think
sounds cool, start scripting and filming before they have any idea where >>> it's going, then try to tie everything together at the end long after
the plot went off the rails.
You can tell. A prime example is the first season of Beyond the Gates. They
it all planned out in detail. Not just the stories but they had (still have)a
lot of those "nothing happening" people just sitting and talking to eachother
about their feelings and how to respond to situations. Old school soap. Iloved
it.lot
Now that they are in the second season and having to continue developing
and writing stories as they film, there's a bit less cohesion. It's still a
better than current GH. It's funny that a lot of it is hospital-based. I hope
they can stick with the "small" focus on human stories, and make the time to
plan the stories properly.
Because it is recent, Beyond the Gates does not have its own group.
However, Jon Lindstrom is still very much part of the GH family. Even if
he is in, Ireland, ? with Ace.
If you think it is worth our tuning in, maybe others here are watching it, >too, and would like to hear some thoughts.
I havenrCOt seen anyone talking about it on rec.arts.tv. Rec.arts.tv.soaps >and rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc have been dead for a while.
From: marika <marika5000@gmail.com> said:
<am.nospam@cox.not.invalid> wrote:
Kaitlin <above.stairs@bobbie's.diner.INVALID> said:a
Once upon a time, story arcs were gamed out to the end before they were >>>> scripted and filmed. Now, it's as if they come up something they think >>>> sounds cool, start scripting and filming before they have any idea where >>>> it's going, then try to tie everything together at the end long after
the plot went off the rails.
You can tell. A prime example is the first season of Beyond the Gates. They >> had
it all planned out in detail. Not just the stories but they had (still have)
lot of those "nothing happening" people just sitting and talking to eachother
about their feelings and how to respond to situations. Old school soap. I >> loved
it.
Now that they are in the second season and having to continue developing >>> and writing stories as they film, there's a bit less cohesion. It's still a >> lot
better than current GH. It's funny that a lot of it is hospital-based. I hope
they can stick with the "small" focus on human stories, and make the time to
plan the stories properly.
Because it is recent, Beyond the Gates does not have its own group.
However, Jon Lindstrom is still very much part of the GH family. Even if
he is in, Ireland, ? with Ace.
If you think it is worth our tuning in, maybe others here are watching it, >> too, and would like to hear some thoughts.
I havenrCOt seen anyone talking about it on rec.arts.tv. Rec.arts.tv.soaps >> and rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc have been dead for a while.
I've watched since it launched. I like Beyond the Gates a lot. More than GH in
the last year, but the quality of soaps seems to go in cycles so my opinion is
likely to change over time. That and GH are the only soaps I watch now, but years ago I used to watch many. If you have time, I recommend giving it a try.
Jon Lindstrom started out overplaying hs part, cartoonishly mustache-twirling
(he's a bad guy) for about six months, but he eventually toned that down and is much more convincing when he plays the ruthlessness more subtly.
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