• Looking for a manual fot the Mentec M100 CPU board

    From Michael Raab@mr@mrsystems.de to alt.sys.pdp11 on Fri Jul 2 08:55:13 2021
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    Hello,

    I'm looking for a manual and/or engineering sheets for the mentec M100 CPU board.

    Not found it on bitsavers - all information is welcome.

    regards

    Michael
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  • From Mark Matlock@mark@rsx11m.com to alt.sys.pdp11 on Sat Jul 24 18:02:46 2021
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    On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 10:55:14 AM UTC-5, m...@mrsystems.de wrote:
    Hello,

    I'm looking for a manual and/or engineering sheets for the mentec M100 CPU board.

    Not found it on bitsavers - all information is welcome.

    Michael,
    I'm also looking for the Mentec M100 manual. I do have manuals
    for the Mentec M1 and M11 which do not use a J11 but the configuration
    menu has some similarity to the M100 so they help a bit. Let me know
    if you want them and also if you do find a M100 manual I'd be interested
    in a copy. If I find one I'll also let you know.

    Best,
    Mark
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  • From Michael Raab@mr@mrsystems.de to alt.sys.pdp11 on Sun Jul 25 00:16:25 2021
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    Mark Matlock schrieb am Sonntag, 25. Juli 2021 um 03:02:47 UTC+2:
    On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 10:55:14 AM UTC-5, m...@mrsystems.de wrote:
    Hello,

    I'm looking for a manual and/or engineering sheets for the mentec M100 CPU board.

    Not found it on bitsavers - all information is welcome.
    Michael,
    I'm also looking for the Mentec M100 manual. I do have manuals
    for the Mentec M1 and M11 which do not use a J11 but the configuration
    menu has some similarity to the M100 so they help a bit. Let me know
    if you want them and also if you do find a M100 manual I'd be interested
    in a copy. If I find one I'll also let you know.

    Best,
    Mark
    Hello Mark,

    Thank's for your offer. The manuals for M1 and M11 are here in my database.

    If I find a M100 manual as print or file - I'll inform you.

    If anybody has a printed M100 manual - If someone is willing to lend me the manual for a scan, that would also be a solution.


    regards

    Michael
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  • From Michael Raab@mikeschpdp@gmail.com to alt.sys.pdp11 on Tue Aug 3 07:49:43 2021
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    Michael Raab schrieb am Sonntag, 25. Juli 2021 um 09:16:26 UTC+2:
    Mark Matlock schrieb am Sonntag, 25. Juli 2021 um 03:02:47 UTC+2:
    On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 10:55:14 AM UTC-5, m...@mrsystems.de wrote:
    Hello,

    I'm looking for a manual and/or engineering sheets for the mentec M100 CPU board.

    Not found it on bitsavers - all information is welcome.
    Michael,
    I'm also looking for the Mentec M100 manual. I do have manuals
    for the Mentec M1 and M11 which do not use a J11 but the configuration menu has some similarity to the M100 so they help a bit. Let me know
    if you want them and also if you do find a M100 manual I'd be interested in a copy. If I find one I'll also let you know.

    Best,
    Mark
    Hello Mark,

    Thank's for your offer. The manuals for M1 and M11 are here in my database.

    If I find a M100 manual as print or file - I'll inform you.

    If anybody has a printed M100 manual - If someone is willing to lend me the manual for a scan, that would also be a solution.


    regards

    Michael
    Hello Mark,

    I've my mentec 100 now running in a MicroPDP BA23 system with a emulex UC07 controller and a SCSI2SD emulator by AmigaKit.

    RT11 is booting and als parts like EIS FPU MMU are found. RT11 identified the CPU as 11/73+ with 4 MB of memory.

    XXDP also booting.

    Is there a RT11 image by mentec that correctly identify the CPU as mentec 100? Are you intereseted in picture of the switch and jumper configuration of the M100?

    regards
    Michael
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  • From Matlock@mark@matlockfamily.com to alt.sys.pdp11 on Sun Aug 8 06:31:18 2021
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    Michael,
    My Mentec M100-04 is set up pretty similar to yours. It is is a BA23 box with a UC07 and
    two SCSI2SD cards, and a DELQA for DECnet/TCP-IP using RSX11M+ V4.6
    I've never run RT-11 on the Mentec board but RSX reports the following info for the M100:
    dis att for sys
    SYS
    PDP-11/73, EIS,QBUS,D-Space,Cache,FPP,
    Clock=KW11-L, $TKPS=60., $TTPRM=000002, Cache_control=000001
    If there is a version of RT-11 that correctly identifies the M100 it would have to be the
    latest version RT-11 V5.7 but I doubt if it is correctly identified by it since the latest version
    of RSX11M+ V4.6 doesn't identify it correctly either.
    if you want we could compare card switch settings to via photos.
    In the RT-11 V5.7 release notes the following mention of the Mentec boards is made:
    Updated Hardware List for Version 5.7
    The following hardware has been added:
    rCo SCSI adapter (added but undocumented for Version 5.6)
    rCo SCSI disk (added but undocumented for Version 5.6)
    rCo SCSI tape (added but undocumented for Version 5.6)
    rCo Mentec M-series processors
    rCo M100 (J11 based)
    rCo M90 (J11 based)
    rCo M80 (J11 based)
    rCo M70 (J11 based)
    rCo M11 (J 11 emulation)
    rCo Time of Year (TOY) clock for DigitalrCOs KDJ11-E based processor s
    rCo Previously retired devices (1)
    rCo Other SCSI devices(1)
    RSX11M+ V4.6 has a similar mention of the Mentec boards but I've never been able
    to get the TOY clock to work. Does that work for you under RT-11?
    Best,
    Mark
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  • From Michael Raab@mikeschpdp@gmail.com to alt.sys.pdp11 on Mon Aug 23 23:05:42 2021
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    Matlock schrieb am Sonntag, 8. August 2021 um 15:31:19 UTC+2:
    Michael,
    My Mentec M100-04 is set up pretty similar to yours. It is is a BA23 box with a UC07 and
    two SCSI2SD cards, and a DELQA for DECnet/TCP-IP using RSX11M+ V4.6

    I've never run RT-11 on the Mentec board but RSX reports the following info for the M100:

    dis att for sys
    SYS
    PDP-11/73, EIS,QBUS,D-Space,Cache,FPP,
    Clock=KW11-L, $TKPS=60., $TTPRM=000002, Cache_control=000001

    If there is a version of RT-11 that correctly identifies the M100 it would have to be the
    latest version RT-11 V5.7 but I doubt if it is correctly identified by it since the latest version
    of RSX11M+ V4.6 doesn't identify it correctly either.

    if you want we could compare card switch settings to via photos.

    In the RT-11 V5.7 release notes the following mention of the Mentec boards is made:
    Updated Hardware List for Version 5.7
    The following hardware has been added:
    rCo SCSI adapter (added but undocumented for Version 5.6)
    rCo SCSI disk (added but undocumented for Version 5.6)
    rCo SCSI tape (added but undocumented for Version 5.6)
    rCo Mentec M-series processors
    rCo M100 (J11 based)
    rCo M90 (J11 based)
    rCo M80 (J11 based)
    rCo M70 (J11 based)
    rCo M11 (J 11 emulation)
    rCo Time of Year (TOY) clock for DigitalrCOs KDJ11-E based processor s
    rCo Previously retired devices (1)
    rCo Other SCSI devices(1)

    RSX11M+ V4.6 has a similar mention of the Mentec boards but I've never been able
    to get the TOY clock to work. Does that work for you under RT-11?

    Best,
    Mark
    Hello Mark,
    I'm sorry for my late reply, but there's a lot of work to do at this time. First - Are you sure there is a TOY clock at the M100 board?
    I've have a 11/93 with KDJ11-E and 4MB memory. The TOY clock is found by RT11 5.7 and RSX11M+ 4.6 - but same booting with the M100 doesn't find a TOY clock.
    I save a 11/73+ with 2 RL02, a dual Floppy Disk 8 inch, a big Tape drive and an 8 inch Harddisk last weekend - therefore I can setup the QBus cage with the m100 for some tests and pictures next week.
    I prefer to communicate using e-mail because of pictures and communication speed.
    Here is my address:
    mikeschpdp@gmail.com
    have a nice day
    Michael
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